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Hi all,
Finally out of contract on my hermes with orange and looking to move to t-mobile for the W+W 35 contract.
I am sure i saw a thread where someone posted a link to a website that they reccomended doing the phone for free. Ive looked everywhere and cant seem to find it.
Failing that are there any companies that are reccomended that are doing good offers at the moment.
Thanks in advance

I know a friend bought one from vodafone on a price plan that works out at 38 per month and he got the phone free.
He might have gone to vodafone direct.
can you not upgrade on orange for free?

I probably can mate but their data plan sucks big time and i can only really use the net off peak.
I was looking to go to tmob so i can surf whilst at work during the day.
I think voda is pretty stingy on their allowance as well.

Hi,
got my Vario III for free from a T-Mobile store on Oxford street on an 18 month £27.50 p/m tariff with unlimited data use - the phone would have been £50 but the guy gave it for free if I took out insurance - cancelled the Direct Debit when it got set up. Didn't see a reasonable tariff online where the Kaiser was free though.
Pete.

Keepoffthegrass said:
I probably can mate but their data plan sucks big time and i can only really use the net off peak.
I was looking to go to tmob so i can surf whilst at work during the day.
I think voda is pretty stingy on their allowance as well.
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It is always worth contacting Orange Customer Retentions on the pretence of getting a PAC off them, depending on your monthly spend you may find they are able to offer much better deals or even match Tmob priceplans.
They wouldn't bend at all for me so I jumped to Tmob 2 years ago and haven't looked back since.

Zoidy said:
Hi,
got my Vario III for free from a T-Mobile store on Oxford street on an 18 month £27.50 p/m tariff with unlimited data use - the phone would have been £50 but the guy gave it for free if I took out insurance - cancelled the Direct Debit when it got set up. Didn't see a reasonable tariff online where the Kaiser was free though.
Pete.
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Agree with the chappy above. You're best off walking into a T-Mobile shop to get the phone for free on the w'n'w flext 35 tariff.
I got mine back at the start of November for free on that very tariff (amazing feat to pull off then, by the way) due to taking out insurance for the phone, which I cancelled in less than a week. The salesman even told me to cancel the insurance when trying to sell me the contract. I'm on an 18 month contract, mind, but considering what other providers offer in terms of data allowance, I can live with T-Mobile for a year and a half. Besides, the salesman messed up when selling me the phone, as he pushed the HSDPA aspect of the phone, saying I could use it on normal web'n'walk. Found out later that I needed web'n'walk plus (extra £5 a month) to have HSDPA enabled and working. Complained to CS about it, and was called later by a CS manager who told me that he'd added web'n'walk plus to my contract for free for the entire 18 months. So, I'm lucky in that I have my phone on flext 35 with web'n'walk plus, with the Vario III free on an 18 month contract for just over £37 a month. Remember, this was back in November, not long after the Vario III became available. Web'n'Walk plus is the only way you'll get use out of HSDPA with T-Mobile....and it has a FUP of 3gb per month. Web'n'Walk only has a 1gb allowance, and no HSDPA. Those who bought their Vario IIIs before November had HSDPA enabled on Web'N'Walk...T-Mobile changed it when they saw how many people on basic W'n'W were hooking up their laptops to their phones to use the HSDPA connection.

Thanskfor the replys chaps,
The supervisor in the shop could do no more than £30 off the handset price. He said this was the max he could authorise.
The dept Area manager is in on monday and should be able to give a better discount so i will call them back then.
I do think t-mob is the way to go. I thought of playing the retentions trick with orange but the amount of data you get on the unlimited plan is puny.

vodafone V1615
After much research I found the cheapest free deal at vodafone (I chose vodafone as their kaisers are unlocked), was free v1615, for £26 / month 18 months business single phone for 300 mins / month, unlimited landline calls, and calls to vodafone numbers on business tariffs. Since I was changing from Orange business, Vodafone paid me a bounty of £150 (I had to ask for this). The only problem was number porting, as I had to have the PAC when I bought the first phone.
my calc
Cost
sim free unlocked kaiser £449 expansys
vodafone
£25+vat * 18 = £549
-bounty £150
= True cost £399 or £22/month
includes 18months insurance.
I only get 50 texts/month, but I use a free web service for that.

mrg2003 said:
After much research I found the cheapest free deal at vodafone (I chose vodafone as their kaisers are unlocked), was free v1615, for £26 / month 18 months business single phone for 300 mins / month, unlimited landline calls, and calls to vodafone numbers on business tariffs. Since I was changing from Orange business, Vodafone paid me a bounty of £150 (I had to ask for this). The only problem was number porting, as I had to have the PAC when I bought the first phone.
my calc
Cost
sim free unlocked kaiser £449 expansys
vodafone
£25+vat * 18 = £549
-bounty £150
= True cost £399 or £22/month
includes 18months insurance.
I only get 50 texts/month, but I use a free web service for that.
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The problem with vodafone is the absolutely abysmal data allowance you get. The OP is after a decent data allowance to use the phone to its full advantage. T-Mobile is the way to go with this one, as it's great on data allowance in comparison to Vodafone. Unlocking is easy enough...there's a thread on here showing you exactly what to do...my Vario III is now debranded and unlocked.
OP, try a different T-Mobile shop if you can. Each shop is given an allowance per month which they can use to discount phones. It could well be that the shop you visited doesn't have much of its allowance left to play with. What I forgot to mention in my earlier post was that I went to another T-Mobile shop before finally getting my phone/contract from my local T-Mobile shop. The first one (city centre shop) said I would have to pay £60 for the phone if I took out an 18month flext35 contract with insurance and web'n'walk (discounted from £120). A few days later, I popped into my local (small town) shop. They let me have the phone for free on the same deal. They explained about the allowance thing. Also told me they only had 2 Vario IIIs in stock and don't normally get asked about them, as the Vario III doesn't fit with the demographics of the town. Their most popular phone back in Nov. 07 was the N95.

O2 do an "unlimited" plan (Fair use of 200Mb) for £7.50, but they really suck at promoting it (although their iPhone tariff has a higher fair use limit)...
One thing I do recommend - get some free SIM cards and use an unlocked phone to try out the signal. A lot of my friends who are on T-Mobile are getting annoyed with their apprent lack of coverage around their home. You may think it is not a problem with people claiming "99.9% coverage" (or whatever), but I know at least one village where the ONLY reception is on Orange.

T-mobile contract renewal - what did everyone pay?

Sorry if this has been asked before but this is my first contract and the first time iv been through the renewal process and id like to avoid walking away with a contract that iv paid more then i should have for;
How much did everyone pay for their kaiser & contract? Be it a totally new contract via phone/web site/store or via a renewal?
Iv been with them for 17 (of 18) months on a flex25 then a flex30 package due to me going over for the first 12 months (+£5-£10 over a month). Iv also signed my sister up with them, so id like to think they'll give me a good deal.
Ideally ill be looking at the kaiser on flex30 (for £25 a month with their -5£ discount) with Web n Walk. Bringing it up to £32.50 a month
cheers guys

Vodafone
£22 / month - unlimted landline calls, unlimted to vodafone business + 500 mins, 1GB data any network. I had to sign a 24 month contract. I added £2/day to my contract rate to cover this expense.

mrg2003 said:
£22 / month - unlimted landline calls, unlimted to vodafone business + 500 mins, 1GB data any network. I had to sign a 24 month contract. I added £2/day to my contract rate to cover this expense.
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He asked how much others paid for a Tilt with a T-mobile contract renewal, not how much you pay for your subscription etc
My dad has been with T-Mobile Netherlands from the start and he tried to get a good deal especially seeing that he overpaid the past few years. (Old subscription prices while they keep getting lower)
He got it for €195,- with 50% discount on his subscription for the following 2 years.

T-Mobile renewals were F-ing crap!
I've been a One2One/T-mobile customer since 1999, and when it came to upgrading from my 18 month Flext25+WnW VarioII contract to the VarioIII they offered me exactly the same deal you could get as a new customer. I must admit I had a rant at the guy in renewals, and told him Voda were offering me a much better deal (which was true) and he said he sympathised but the VarioIII was having no special deals done on it.
Told him to cancel my contract at the end of the period, and I'd go elsewhere.
Then I found that Mobileshop.com were offering the VarioIII for free on T-mobile Flext30+WnW (T-Mobile wanted me to pay over £120 for it on that contract). spoke with them and they had it in stock. So, I called T-Mobile back and told them - and got the very same guy in Renewals!!! He remembered our conversation a few days earlier, and to be fair tried to get a deal on, but couldnt do anything at all yet again.
So I took the new contract through Mobileshop.com and got the handset free. It was delivered next day, and has been superb. OK, it costs me a fiver a month more due to not getting the go-direct discount, but my wife's phone is due for renewal in a few months (some Nokia Symbian thing) so when we discuss her renewal I'm going to get them to add the loyalty discount back onto my account.
I guess the moral of the tale is "dont expect T-Mobile to do you a great deal!"

Thanks for that link Rob, iv made a note of that site and if t-mobile dont offer me a good deal i might follow your lead and go with them!
What did everyone else pay?

Andehh,
That sounds very similar to the deal that I was looking. However, T-Mobile wanted to charge me £180 for the Kiser until I told them that O2 would do it for free so I would cancel my contract if they didn't match it.
Not only did they match that offer but they ended up giving me the £5/month off on the contract as well.

UK contract release, know where & when ?

can't find much info about release date. all O2 talks about iphone3G :-(
any rumours???

eXpansys do it on an O2 contract

I would of thought 1st or 2nd week of July...
Orange have it the July catalogue, and dummy models on display from Tuesday.

Its Getting Closer
orange are getting close to launch
im going to wet myself

First week of July is what I have heard.
Play currently have it for £399.99 SIM free but I did hear it might be on Vodafone PAYG for as little as £230!!!
Links to the various HTC Diamond versions comapred on UK contracts etc can be found here - note it isn't available on contract yet!
HTC Diamond
Andy

Last I have heard is o2 will have it before T-mobile in UK

AndyChecker said:
but I did hear it might be on Vodafone PAYG for as little as £230!!!
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Vodafone have since confirmed the price to be a typo

AndyChecker said:
Last I have heard is o2 will have it before T-mobile in UK
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This wont happen.
O2 will not be in a rush as they wont want anything getting in the way of their precious iPhone

darthbane2k said:
This wont happen.
O2 will not be in a rush as they wont want anything getting in the way of their precious iPhone
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LOL I do like Apple products and have been a fan for many years but the iPhone $ucks

thanks for all the responses...
and I confess ... am still not sure if I go for iPhone 3G or Diamond..
it's like I know the Diamond will do more and I will play with it more as installing third party dodgy-developers's tools, but... I am fed up of Win Mobile crashing, performance issue, memory, etc..
so.. still unsure :-(

Orange just told me release on the 7th and all £35+ monthly contracts are unlimited data.
Just have to wait till the 14th to upgrade.
MG

Mmm i would check out exactly what Oranges Unlimited data means.
Check out this discussion over at Coolsmartphone...
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12602
Apparently if you click on more info about the Unlimited data it states that its for 2 months. Its very vague and not very obvious exactly what they are offering and how long for.

available but on poor network contracts
Expansys have it on O2 and T-mobile but the contracts are poor. Phones4u has it for Orange and seems to have a bigger range of contract options.
Many sites have it as sim free...Perhaps it is worth the wait for the HTC Pro though, i like the thought of the 16gb microSD slot as well as the TV out option.

Phones4u seems to be more expensive then orange. they want £39 for a £40 12 month contract, whereas orange is free

markprosurf said:
Orange just told me release on the 7th and all £35+ monthly contracts are unlimited data.
Just have to wait till the 14th to upgrade.
MG
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If you can call 500MB unlimited...

londonukm said:
Expansys have it on O2 and T-mobile but the contracts are poor. Phones4u has it for Orange and seems to have a bigger range of contract options.
Many sites have it as sim free...Perhaps it is worth the wait for the HTC Pro though, i like the thought of the 16gb microSD slot as well as the TV out option.
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How are the Expansys contracts for T Mobile poor? They are exactly the same as those from T Mobile themselves.
If anyone thinks they are going to get a free MDA Compact IV on anything less that a 18 month flext contract, they are kidding themselves.
T Mobile themselves still charge £190 for the Vario 3 on the Combi 35 12 Month deal

colonel said:
Phones4u seems to be more expensive then orange. they want £39 for a £40 12 month contract, whereas orange is free
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There is no way in hell this phone will be free on a 12 month contract

darthbane2k said:
How are the Expansys contracts for T Mobile poor? They are exactly the same as those from T Mobile themselves.
If anyone thinks they are going to get a free MDA Compact IV on anything less that a 18 month flext contract, they are kidding themselves.
T Mobile themselves still charge £190 for the Vario 3 on the Combi 35 12 Month deal
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Well for a start you pay at least £5/month more for a like-for-like contract if you buy from Expansys rather than T-mob direct.

nicofars said:
can't find much info about release date. all O2 talks about iphone3G :-(
any rumours???
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O2 UK get it on the 12th Aug; its called the XDA Indigo. Why O2 just don't keep Diamond as the name; god knows

mr_Ray said:
Well for a start you pay at least £5/month more for a like-for-like contract if you buy from Expansys rather than T-mob direct.
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Only on some of the selected 18 month deals. The 12 month deals (and there is hardly any left) are priced the same.
The T Mobile ones that are discounted by £5 are due to a web promotion on the T Mobile site. Now, I have researched this throughly, and all Expansys do is have T Mobile subsidise the phone. They do not customise any of the tariffs to their suiting. A Flext 35 is the same as a T Mobile Flext 35 for example. If the tariff suddenly changes (more mins for example or lower price) then you deal direct with T Mobile and have every right to demand these changes are reflected in what you recieve.

The MDA Compact IV has been REMOVED from T Mobiles coming soon section

Rang T Mobile sales, had a very lengthy chat about the MDA Compact IV. Two weeks ago their coming soon section had it released for 30th June, after that the date changed to 1st July, then changed to just 'early July' - now it has been completely removed from the internal coming soon section and the staff have no idea what is going on. Doesnt look like a release is happening for some reason.

my contract is up with orange
so i am waiting to see who gets the phone out first
and who will do the best data deal

liamhere said:
so i am waiting to see who gets the phone out first
and who will do the best data deal
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Looks like that could be Orange.
They have the phone listed on their site, £30 gets you 600 mins, unlimited texts, unlimited land line calls and unlimited data (500MB fair use)

Just rang T-mobile she said its still in comming soon list and willbe coming in few weeks, but not sure if she was just telling me to saty with t-mobile, keep asking me is there any other handset you intresdted in, like vario 3, i saod vario 4 is coming why i need to buy vario 3, then she kept quit and said, i will advise you to ring us back in few weeks.

mub786 said:
Just rang T-mobile she said its still in comming soon list and willbe coming in few weeks, but not sure if she was just telling me to saty with t-mobile, keep asking me is there any other handset you intresdted in, like vario 3, i saod vario 4 is coming why i need to buy vario 3, then she kept quit and said, i will advise you to ring us back in few weeks.
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Dont you just love this??!
Imagine the £££s in lost sales and contracts because of T Mobiles inability to set a release date and actually launch a phone

I got impatient then discovered the tmobile deals on the eXpansys site. Got the same contract as I had before and the phone cost me £75.
Very happy. I agree tho, altho the same thing happened to Orange to start with, they kept saying they were "testing" the phone and kept putting the date back, maybe they have had the same problems?

darthbane2k said:
Looks like that could be Orange.
They have the phone listed on their site, £30 gets you 600 mins, unlimited texts, unlimited land line calls and unlimited data (500MB fair use)
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Just looked on the Orange site... they say the Diamond lasts 12days on standby!!!

Do Orange have tariffs that can compete with T-Mobile yet?
That £30 one doesnt sound bad, does the data include HDSPA? But with my discounts (one was a 25% off offer when I took out my contract and the other is a £10 loyalty thing) I get my Flext35 and WnW+ for like £23 a month. Suits me down to the ground!!

I was checking whether it pays more to take contract with expansys or with t-mobile with some good phone, flog it on ebay and then buy new diamond of the internet. Normally if you take contract with t-mobile you get £5 off, plus in June with plans of 35 or more you had additional 10% more if ordered online. And they offer new plans. Expansys offers old plans like £30 with £90 allowance, and £35 with £180 whereas t-mobile already has those plans with £140 and £200 of allowance respectively...

Leaving Orange for the TD2 - how best to do it?

Hey everyone, It's been really interesting reading the comments here, especially regarding T-Mobile and their riduclous failure to release the phone properly. I have a question about my new upgrade to the TD2...
I am just finishing a contract with Orange - one of the reasons I went with them is because they always have the HTC handsets and I love them. I called up to ask if they were getting it in and told they didn't know. I then asked for my PAC code and the guy at retentions (whose job is to stop me leaving) asked me why. I informed him that I am extremely particular about which handset I get and T-Mobile have it whilst Orange don't. He then had the nerve to argue with me! He kept telling me that only Orange get HTC phones, it's an exclusive contract, etc. I calmly told him that it was an HTC phone that T-Mobile were getting but rebranded. Our conversation went something like:
"Why are you leaving Orange after 7 years?"
"Because I want the HTC Touch Diamond2 and you don't have it."
"Neither do T-Mobile."
"Yes, they do."
"No they don't." rolleyes
"Really, they do. It's called the MDA Compact 5."
"I'm looking at their website right now and it's not listed there"
"I know it isn't. But there are numerous press releases confirming it, not to mention I just spoke to them personally."
"Are you thinking of the G1?"
"NO. It's the HTC Diamond 2."
"Only Orange have HTC phones. It's exclusive."
...etc until I lost patience and told him that this was one of the reasons I was leaving Orange.
I have always been someone who attaches to a network directly rather than through a reseller, but I've discovered that some of these online places like MobilePhonesDirect do rather better deals for new contracts than the networks themselves do. I was thinking of the 18 month Combi 30 + WnW - the handset would be free which is better than T-Mob do themselves! (http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/HTC/b509/n447/p10957.aspx)
My question is, given that I'm giving up on 7 years-worth of loyalty bonuses, would it be better to go to T-Mob via MPD or go direct and pay more for the handset? Am I at any disadvantage from buying from a reseller?
Cheers for your help!

I left Orange aeons ago, after running with them for 18 months with my Tytn 1; their data packages were laughable then (4 pounds a month for 5MB) and although are better now, still pathetic compared to other operators. No idea why they don't sort out their attitudes towards data given the fact they carry internet phones.
Anyway, original question - a D2 off ebay is between £350-400; got mine for £380. I now have a 30 day rolling contract for £17 from O2 - 600 mins, 1200 texts, unlimited web. The maths doesn't support it really - you can get a D2 on a similar contract for £25 a month on a 24 month contract (£600 in total) - compared to my independantly bought handset and contract (£788 if carried for 24 months), I've shafted myself.
On the other hand, I was desparate for a new phone; I'd had a Kaiser for 18 months on T-Mobile (who 3 weeks ago said they would not be doing the HTC Diamond 2 (cretins for not knowing their Vario V is the D2)), and my credit checks wouldn't let me have the D2 on O2.
Also, this does mean I can get the next "must have" phone on contract instead of having to wait 2 years for an upgrade.

i got the touch diamond 2 for free on a 24month contract 600 minutes talk time any network and unlimited text any network for £25 a month its an O2 contract but arranged through i think it mobiles.co.uk just search for touch diamond 2 deals on google. Also first 7months are half price

Cool, thanks for the info. What I was wondering is if it makes any difference going through a reseller regarding upgrades. So, let's say I got an 18 month contract on T-Mobile via one of the reseller sites. Could I then call up T-Mobile and negotiate directly with them for a new contract and phone? And would it make a difference that I didn't originally go directly with them?

I had been a customer of O2 for 10 years when I decided to leave to get my mitts on a TD2.
The loyalty only goes so far so I wasn't too fussed to leave. I also had to jump networks to get the best deals from an online reseller (for some reason staying with the same provider yields much worse deals).
I had been on a £15pcm Simplicity tariff with the web bolt-on since my previous phone went out of contract.
I went with the 18 months T-Mobile Combi 30 + WnW plan from Mobilephonesdirect. Had it a month now and pleased as punch. A few advantages of going through a reseller (especially the mobilephones direct deal)
1 - The phone is unlocked and unbranded so when that Windows Mobile 6.5 goodness(?) is released as promised by HTC I won't have to wait and if in 17 months time I want to change provider then I can keep the phone and get a cheap SIM only tariff.
2 - The deals are more competitive. If I'd bought an unbranded TD2 outright and kept my O2 tariff I'd be paying over the odds compared to the "free" handset offered by MPD over the life of the contract. If I'd waited and gone with the T-Mobile version I'm pretty sure I'd be paying three figures for the handset.
3 - With MPDs £50 of accessories offer you can get a 16Gb card for £25 (Yes I know the fact that they charge £75 for it isn't the cheapest, but in real terms it still has only cost me £25 and I now have oodles of storage for MP3s, etc)
4 - My ongoing contract is directly with T-Mobile not MPD so I can start building some T-Mobile "loyalty"
TBH T-Mobile works better than O2 in some places and worse in others to the extent that I think they just about balance out. Just odd to get cut off in the car in places that weren't a problem and then be able to carry on in longstanding O2 blackspots!
My tuppence.
Niall

Informator said:
Hey everyone, It's been really interesting reading the comments here, especially regarding T-Mobile and their riduclous failure to release the phone properly. I have a question about my new upgrade to the TD2...
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"Only Orange have HTC phones. It's exclusive."
My question is, given that I'm giving up on 7 years-worth of loyalty bonuses, would it be better to go to T-Mob via MPD or go direct and pay more for the handset? Am I at any disadvantage from buying from a reseller?
Cheers for your help!
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Amazing isn't it... I bought my D2 from mobile phones direct and it's been a perfect experience so far. I actually ordered the phone on the day it came out and was absolutely amazed when it turned up next day, on a Saturday morning.
I'm on the Combi 30+ WnW and the account is with T-Mobile. It appeared on my existing T-Mobile account page on the web. I assume I'll start building loyalty with them again. The phone was free and there was £50 of freebies so bought 8GB card and car charger. ExpanSys charged £50 for the phone and no freebies.
It was rather amusing when I cancelled my old contact and got through to the inertible loyalty team. At least they were english. I tried to point out that I wasn't really leaving T-Mobile, just going sideways. And only did it because T-Mobile didn't (at the time) offer the phone.
So go for it!
Cheers, Rob.

I'm another happy MobilesPhonesDirect.com customer and the asnwer to your main question is yes: you will be a t-mobile customer like any other.
Tony

Wow! Thanks everyone so much for your responses, that's really helped me cement my choice. I really appreciate your feedback. On the strength of this I am going to purchase it on T-Mob via MPD as soon as my stupid PAC code comes through.
Thanks again!

Why not go through carphone warehouse and get the TD2 on orange
you wont loose your loyalty bonuses !!
i dont see what the issue is ?

carphone warehouse will do it for u on orange it will come unlocked to all netwoerks without the stupid operator branding. Am with orange and did mine at the carphone warehouse.
Good Luck buddy

There's no point me going through the Carphone Warehouse as they'd set me up with a new contract, which would defeat the point of having loyalty with Orange. For new contracts, T-Mobile definitely win with the TD2.
Having said all this, Orange did say they'll be launching the Touch Pro 2 soon, so there's always the option of getting that (hopefully free) then selling it on eBay and buying a sim-free TD2 instead. It never gets any easier to make choices, especially now that 18 months seems normal.

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What's the data plan like on Orange though?
When I was looking to jump ship and was looking at operators direct (as well as through resellers) I found Vodafone and Orange's websites to be almost cryptic as to what, if any, data bundles were included or available seperately.
Pretty useless when your wanting a phone that elevates itself to Smartphone status by virtue of it's many data using features!
When I bought via MPD I went with T-Mobile over the Voda offers purely for the better (and clearer explained...) data tariff. T-Mobile are certainly one of the more progressive operators when it comes to data, and who ever you get your TD2 from or through, be sure that to get the best from the handset you have a good voice AND data plan!
Though I have now learned that my last bill has £6odd on it for simply checking voicemail.......
Niall

A good point - Orange will throw in their data bundle if I stay with them, which at 500MB isn't as good as T-Mobile's 1GB but would be enough for my needs.
The question for me now is do I wait for Orange to give me a good deal and a Touch Pro I can sell, or jump ship to T-Mobile and risk ending up paying much more?
Decisions, decisions...

Informator said:
Wow! Thanks everyone so much for your responses, that's really helped me cement my choice. I really appreciate your feedback. On the strength of this I am going to purchase it on T-Mob via MPD as soon as my stupid PAC code comes through.
Thanks again!
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Ohh I gave up trying to transfer my PAC code across. It just too much like hard work as I was going from T-Mobile to T-Mobile. The process was request PAC code from T-Mobile, obtain a PAYG SIM with another provider, give them the PAC code and transfer the number to PAYG. Wait a while (!) and then go through the process again to transfer back to T-Mobile.
Of course, each time you want that PAC code they bamboozle you with crap and you'd have to work through the retentions team. They kept going on about end periods, charges etc (T-Mobile this is).
I was expecting to end up without a number at all!
All of this must be complete bull**** as I can see BOTH my accounts on T-Mobile web page so they are on the same computer system with the same provider.
In the end, I simply emailed/text all my friends with the new number. That was far less hassle.
It's things like this that still give the mobile providers a really bad name. Ohh and the fact that I had go through this pain with an Indian call centre at the start and they failed to transfer me three times to retentions.
And to further add salt into the wound, I rang up when I first got my new phone in T-Mobile and they said "Ohh, you can't cancel until 17th June without a charge as that's when the contract runs out". So I duly created a task in Outlook on 17th June to cancel and they said "But of course, you've just paid for another month"...
Charletons the lot of them! ;-)
Cheers, Rob.

goonerjae said:
Why not go through carphone warehouse and get the TD2 on orange
you wont loose your loyalty bonuses !!
i dont see what the issue is ?
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Because if they are anything like T-Mobile, this will be classed as a new contract.
Rob.

Informator said:
A good point - Orange will throw in their data bundle if I stay with them, which at 500MB isn't as good as T-Mobile's 1GB but would be enough for my needs.
The question for me now is do I wait for Orange to give me a good deal and a Touch Pro I can sell, or jump ship to T-Mobile and risk ending up paying much more?
Decisions, decisions...
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I think T-Mobile on Combi 30+ wnk is unlimited, fair use...
Rob.

Both Orange and T-Mobile are "unlimited", but last I checked thir fair use policy was 500MB for Orange, 1Gb for T-Mobile. (And 200MB for O2, out of interest.)