I have been reading this site for just about a year now. I think this might be my first post! If I missed this with my searches, please give me the correct terms to search with.
I like the idea of "GScroll", but the only feature of this application that was appealing to me was the "double tap" for instant applications.
I realize that this is only $4.99.
I also have been reading on how unreliable this application is! I do not want to waste my money....
Can anyone here make a simple to install (cab) that has something similar to this feature of GScroll? But more reliable!
Thanks!!
I myself bought gscroll and have had no problems with it. Like u i mostly wanted to be able to edit the capacitive buttons. But i have gotten to where i really like the task switcher also. If you have more than one program running u can simply swipe ur finger across the buttons and get a nifty task switcher like ALT+TAB in windows.
Agreed. gScroll is the best $5 software I have ever purchased. The funny thing is, the name implies that it is for using the g-sensor for scrolling by tilting. That's the unreliable part and the one I have disabled.
The app switcher is, perhaps, the best feature on the phone. I can now officially laugh at iPhone users that can't even run two apps at once, and we get a swipe to switch in between? Shoot, it's not even funny.
The double tap launch is also great. I've got all 5 zones set up to launch a browser, podcatcher, the camera, hTorch flashlight and a 'close' current program button. It is easy to accidentally launch a program with this, but it's not horrible. The convenience is better than the risk of launching an errant program. Between this and editing the long press values of the touchpad keys & PTT button, there are 12 customizable commands at our fingertips. The start menu becomes a rare occurrence.
Also, I have the right side of the touchpad working like my d-pad and the left side running the screen scrolling. I now touch the actual screen much less, and have a reliable d-pad... really, it's sweet.
Anyway, I say it's worth it... don't back away just because the tilt scrolling feature doesn't work worth a darn. Even if it did, it's just not intuitive.
Thanks for the assuring responses!
It looks like I will be purchasing GScroll soon!
~J
Yeah, I don't use the launcher much, but in my experience it works pretty well; you do get the occasional accidental launch, but you're going to get that with anything, aren't you? The g-scrolling has never really worked for me, and I haven't tried it in a couple months. Finger scrolling is pretty easy, so I don't think it's all that necessary.
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Just curious what people think about this app? Currently I am using Slueth v3.0 and love it but am looking for a little more customizability.
nothing exciting for me
I think it is great I have stopped using Pocketplus and InesoftAddressBook. I am very happy with it, took me a couple days to really get used to it.
-McMex
Me too
I think it's the best ready to use application. Install and enjoy
But on the now page, bluetooth and wifi state are missing
its ok not to wild about it
I tried it for 2 days and really like the fuctionality of it. BUT I had to remove it because it slows down the switch to phone enough that I have missed over half of my calls. It will ring only for about 5 seconds even though the caller can hear it ring for about 25 seconds. So even if I am fast in getting to phone it has already gone to voice mail. I removed it and now everything is back to normal.
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I tried it for 2 days and really like the fuctionality of it. BUT I had to remove it because it slows down the switch to phone enough that I have missed over half of my calls. It will ring only for about 5 seconds even though the caller can hear it ring for about 25 seconds. So even if I am fast in getting to phone it has already gone to voice mail. I removed it and now everything is back to normal.
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I think u need to check your phone... I've had 2.0 since the beta leaked and no problems whatsoever! Runs smooth, doesn't slow down my device at all, everythings perfect.
To be honest the programs more for an "oooh" factor then functionality, it'll always be easer to pull out the stylus and do it the good old fashioned way. BUT it does help a BUNCH when driving...
To the original poster, theres a 14 day trial from SPB, why dont u try it, see what u think. U don't like it? then simply uninstall it.. no harm done.
i like the interface but one thing i feel that the smart gesture doesn't work on my tilt somtimes, i need to try very hard to call out the interface (something similar to alt-tab in pc)
overall, i am happy with the functions
The gesture works best if you start at the 'start' icon at the top and drag your finger to the middle of the screen.
I think it's a great program, I keep finding things I like. It works better than HTC's touchflo in my opinion.
Cheers
Its a bit of a step down in some cases, You cant have as many tabs as pocket plus, and you cant add more than one plugin. In fact I found that if you install SPB Mobile Shell and remove it from your home screen, that pocket plus allows you to add many of the unique Mobile Shell tabs but with more customisation such as adding additional content to the tab.
I quite like the quick screen you get while switching on from standby but it doesn't always work and seems to argue with the homescreen about who opens up, also it would have been great if you could literally have this screen as a homescreen. Rather than having a hybrid of the two.
Im dissapointed, I think there are much better innovations being made to homescreen customisation that this, and it looks very little different from SPB MS 1.0.
a bit bum then really.
See the long running thread in the general section.
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I've been using Windows Mobile for about a year now, and have yet to see any improvement on it by Microsoft. It seems all other companies except the software giant are destroying it. Of course, I still like Windows Mobile, or I wouldn't be using it, but is there still enough going for it to keep using it?
First, let me start out with the interface...
Today Screen
This is what greets us when we turn on the device. Now, I'm not saying there's not a lot to love about this. You could use a new theme everyday and last for months. But how well does it go with the rest of the system? When you leave the today screen, you practically leave the customization, and are most likely in a typical windows mobile app (and have to wait in an un-animated manner for it to load). To fix: make all apps work together! make it more finger friendly, more customizable, and finally, MORE ANIMATED!
Notifications
Now, this is where windows mobile just... sucks (for lack of better words...)
Typically, you can either have a 90's pop-up window on the bottom of the screen, or a little tiny icon on the top. HTC has made it a little better by making the tap of the top screen enlarge the icons, but it is still very annoying to use. To fix: both the iPhone and Android have great notification systems. A nice, graphical window pops up in the middle of the screen, giving you an easy way to read and react to it,and escape it if need be. How hard would it be to implement a new way of getting notifications?
The bottom bar
I don't know about everyone, but I HATE the bottom bar. To me, it just seems like a waste of space. It shouldn't be there as much as it is. It should be smarter, and more finger friendly. To fix: make it not there unless it is really needed. Rely more on gestures, and when it is needed, make it larger and more graphical, with easy to use and useful buttons/links.
Scroll bars
I think we can all agree on this one. Windows Mobile has the smallest scroll bars I think I've ever seen in an OS. A toddler could barely use them! Android and the iPhone both have their own solutions, and I think a combination of them should be implemented. To fix: make them not need to be there. Use touch gestures instead. And when they do need to be there, have a large little "pull bar" (like Android) to move, and when it is not needed, have it disappear.
derekwilkinson said:
I've been using Windows Mobile for about a year now, and have yet to see any improvement on it by Microsoft. It seems all other companies except the software giant are destroying it. Of course, I still like Windows Mobile, or I wouldn't be using it, but is there still enough going for it to keep using it?
First, let me start out with the interface...
Today Screen
This is what greets us when we turn on the device. Now, I'm not saying there's not a lot to love about this. You could use a new theme everyday and last for months. But how well does it go with the rest of the system? When you leave the today screen, you practically leave the customization, and are most likely in a typical windows mobile app (and have to wait in an un-animated manner for it to load). To fix: make all apps work together! make it more finger friendly, more customizable, and finally, MORE ANIMATED!
Would make it more slow, no?
Notifications
Now, this is where windows mobile just... sucks (for lack of better words...)
Typically, you can either have a 90's pop-up window on the bottom of the screen, or a little tiny icon on the top. HTC has made it a little better by making the tap of the top screen enlarge the icons, but it is still very annoying to use. To fix: both the iPhone and Android have great notification systems. A nice, graphical window pops up in the middle of the screen, giving you an easy way to read and react to it,and escape it if need be. How hard would it be to implement a new way of getting notifications?
No answer.
The bottom bar
I don't know about everyone, but I HATE the bottom bar. To me, it just seems like a waste of space. It shouldn't be there as much as it is. It should be smarter, and more finger friendly. To fix: make it not there unless it is really needed. Rely more on gestures, and when it is needed, make it larger and more graphical, with easy to use and useful buttons/links.
use dcinobar
Scroll bars
I think we can all agree on this one. Windows Mobile has the smallest scroll bars I think I've ever seen in an OS. A toddler could barely use them! Android and the iPhone both have their own solutions, and I think a combination of them should be implemented. To fix: make them not need to be there. Use touch gestures instead. And when they do need to be there, have a large little "pull bar" (like Android) to move, and when it is not needed, have it disappear.
buy ftouchsl and use advanced config to hide the scroll bars(hard to scroll through windows folder though)
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There are just too many TOUCH's in your FIXES!
Keep in mind: Windows Mobile - yes, even WM6.1 - is basically meant to be used with a STYLUS! I personally do not like to touch my screen all the time with my fingers; I sure know a lot of people like it and there is nothing wrong with that, however, I am one of the few out there actually using the stylus!
Also, your list is quite 'outdated' considering the fact that WM7 is in the making (just google it in the internet and you will see that all of your wishes is been working on!). For everything else, well, there are 3rd party application or hacks and tweaks available!
If WM wouldn't be the way it is, we would not have such a great place as XDA Developers.
The strength of WM is its customizability. My WM device is almost exclusively touch friendly. No stylus needed. I have a front end that is totally finger friendly (spb pocket plus), contacts (icontact), keyboard (pocket cm keyboard), image viewer (imageviewer), a finger friendly WMP skin (plus S2P).
Devin
I agree somewhat with what the OP has said, and I do agree that WM could use an overhaul (and it is getting one).
That said, I would be perfectly happy with the current WM setup if we could just get some better touch screens on these things. When all is said and done, I still like my Tilt much more than my iPhone, except for the touch screen. I can actually touch a very small object on the screen of that one with the pad of my thumb, it's so sensitive...on my Tilt, I often feel like the the screen is fighting with me whenever I try and touch it.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that, for me at least, WM needs an overhaul in the hardware department first.
Most of the issues can be modified with the infinite programs/options on this great site, but it´s a fact that WM needs to do something serious before he starts to get slow on the race...
WM 6.5? some say soon, but nothing really impressive I think
WM7? It looks promosing but let´s see...
LOL!!!
WinMo and I have a love/hate relationship.
For the general graphics of WM, like the scrollbars and buttons, they seemed to be the same basic crap from the first release.
Like orb3000, I too have a love/really hate relationship with WM. It does have its share of great software support (honestly can you run full screen videos on any other mobile as smoothly as tcpmp?, though i did not try iPhone ). But then it looses out on some very basic requirements like proper and systematic contact management, which most S60 3rd Edition devices have .
http://www.pointui.com/products/home-2
Installed it on my Fuze, and Im not too impressed with it yet. Still looks like it needs alot of work.
OK, I managed to download this real quick and get it installed. So far I have suffered from 2 random freezes!
After playing around with it and knowing that this is the free version, I find it to be very limited.
It is perhaps overly simple, but to be honest it seems to work pretty well on my device, after a restart of course.
Its simple, but I dont really need a world map to show me where I am, taking half of my home screen up Weathers only 2 days and gives useless info like the temp only. Its not finger friendly and requires a stylus to get around. The UI button brings you to a useless screen that just has all links that fire up the web browser and point back to point ui web pages. Google news scrolling across the screen is annoying not to mention if you hit it by mistake you have to close opera then. After 20 minutes of playing around its time to uninstall and go back to touchflo. Maybe after its matured I will give it a second chance try.
I like it very much! VERY SNAPPY, no freezes. I wish it had more customization capabilities, but I will take it. Weather is limited to some strange cities, you would think atleast all US capitals would be available.
Overal, I like it better than SPB, and TF3D atm.
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BTW, don't miss out on some cool features, below weather and google thingy, there are a few buttons that let you choose to play a slideshow, view sms and other things. They really need to make them more obvious, or maybe its just my wallpaper.
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Its simple, but I dont really need a world map to show me where I am, taking half of my home screen up Weathers only 2 days and gives useless info like the temp only. Its not finger friendly and requires a stylus to get around. The UI button brings you to a useless screen that just has all links that fire up the web browser and point back to point ui web pages. Google news scrolling across the screen is annoying not to mention if you hit it by mistake you have to close opera then. After 20 minutes of playing around its time to uninstall and go back to touchflo. Maybe after its matured I will give it a second chance try.
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Well in the interest of fairness, the world tab is only open if you want it to be. Otherwise you can have weather, clock & calendar all available. Personally i barely noticed the google news scrolling, and last but not least, i found it VERY easy to navigate with my fingers. That being said, i'm not giving up on TF3D for it, but overall i was very impressed with how smooth it is.
cd85233 said:
I like it very much! VERY SNAPPY, no freezes. I wish it had more customization capabilities, but I will take it. Weather is limited to some strange cities, you would think atleast all US capitals would be available.
Overal, I like it better than SPB, and TF3D atm.
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You can add cities by editing the xml, check out the thread in the dev & hacking forum.
In fact, let's just move all discussion over to there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459706
Which one do you like? the free SensorScroll or the paid Gscroll or any other app?
I've used all three (GScroll and SensorScroll with the original HTC rom, and both of them + RRE Smart touch screen scroll with the latest RRE rom for 6.1
Personally, I found SensorScroll to be the best!! (a bit difficult to configure/customize..).. then RRE's smart touch... and lastly (yes, last) I had a very bad experience with Gscroll....
so what do you guys say? Is there some other app too that I am missing?
what do you mean ,,bad experience,, with GSscroll ? i.ve been using gscroll for a while now and it works flawlessly (using EnergyROM) and i might say i cannot imagine my tp without this app...it has so many functions and customization. I vote GScroll (although it is not free, this may be the down side of this)
might be a ROM issue then... scrollin does not work (not always).. apps open when i dont want them to, when i DO want them to, nothing happens.. tht sort of problems
SensorScroll - the best for me, but it have some bugs...
We need new version
I like GScroll a lot, but it has its issues. The newer 2 series has been rather spotty for me (perhaps it doesn't work as well with 6.5). I really liked the 1.5 version-it worked almost flawlessly for me. But the new launcher in the 2 series is next to worthless; it's really pretty awful. I would get far too many accidental taps, and every time, the little pop-up appears which is really annoying. Many times, I would get taps when I hadn't even touched the d-pad area. For a while, I had one pattern set to close applications, and without touching the d-pad, I'd see a back arrow tap, then a home key tap, and the current application would close. It drove me nuts. So, it sucks, I can't use the launcher, which means I also can't use the task switcher, which is a beautiful little application. They need to give us a short cut for the task switcher, so we can program it to run on a PTT push. That would be really nice. Maybe someone already knows how to do that?
I also find that the new gscroll tends to get backed up a lot and becomes unresponsive for a while. That is annoying. I think they tried to pack too many features into the 2 series, and it just doesn't work yet. I haven't tried the last one or two versions, though, so maybe they're better. I find that gscroll is mandatory to work with mobipocket to scroll pages, but it really doesn't work with much else. The older versions worked great with PIE, but I'm having no luck with the newer version (even with tweaks to the sensitivity). I wish it would work to scroll pages in other browsers, too. All it does is hop from link to link.
At least they got rid of the mouse pointer. That thing was a nightmare.
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I like GScroll a lot, but it has its issues. The newer 2 series has been rather spotty for me (perhaps it doesn't work as well with 6.5). I really liked the 1.5 version-it worked almost flawlessly for me. But the new launcher in the 2 series is next to worthless; it's really pretty awful. I would get far too many accidental taps, and every time, the little pop-up appears which is really annoying. Many times, I would get taps when I hadn't even touched the d-pad area. For a while, I had one pattern set to close applications, and without touching the d-pad, I'd see a back arrow tap, then a home key tap, and the current application would close. It drove me nuts. So, it sucks, I can't use the launcher, which means I also can't use the task switcher, which is a beautiful little application. They need to give us a short cut for the task switcher, so we can program it to run on a PTT push. That would be really nice. Maybe someone already knows how to do that?
I also find that the new gscroll tends to get backed up a lot and becomes unresponsive for a while. That is annoying. I think they tried to pack too many features into the 2 series, and it just doesn't work yet. I haven't tried the last one or two versions, though, so maybe they're better. I find that gscroll is mandatory to work with mobipocket to scroll pages, but it really doesn't work with much else. The older versions worked great with PIE, but I'm having no luck with the newer version (even with tweaks to the sensitivity). I wish it would work to scroll pages in other browsers, too. All it does is hop from link to link.
At least they got rid of the mouse pointer. That thing was a nightmare.
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I use Gscroll, latest version, 2.0 i think with EnergyROM Aurora and it works perfect, it works with ALL the apps, maybe u should take a closer look to the config... there are alot of options
I've messed with pretty much all of them. The launcher is just a no go for me, it's far too unpredictable. The scrolling is ok about 80% of the time, but it locks up from time to time which is annoying (have varied the trigger all over the map, from 5-70; not I'm at 45 and that seems ok). I leave it on DPad all the time. I never really had problems with the 1-series, but this one is just not working for me very well. I may just switch over to the new VolDPad app in the hacking forum. It works really well for my purposes. I do want to figure out the shortcut to the app switcher, though. It would be really nice to be able to call it up with a long PTT press.
So I have had my Touch Pro from the beginning and have absolutely loved this phone, especially with the newest rom additions. One thing that still annoys me though is the capacitive zoom ring on the Touch Pro. When I do stuff in Word, Excel or Email it seems I accidentally hit that thing all the time and then it zooms either in or out and then I have to fix it. Really that ring is soo unpredictable I was just wondering how I can just disable it for all applications. I don't use it ever on purpose, does anyone know how to do it through the registry or anything like that?
My scroll wheel area fritzed out a while back and would zoom in and out like a yo yo for no reason. Drove me nuts on a regular basis. Disabling the scroll as described here (post #6) worked for me. No trouble since.
Wow that works, don't know how I missed that thread but I am glad you pointed it out. I copied a blank smarttouch.dll to the windows directory and it looks like it disabled the scroll now. Now I am a happy camper, I think this will breathe another 6 months of life out of my phone.