Google Maps closes after some circumstances in Manila 3 - Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development

Hello,
in L26 V8 and all Duttys I tried Google Maps closes after some time by itself. Might be a memory problem??
Mostly happens in Sat-View with some zooming and searching etc...
Taskmanager shows about 20 Processes with GM.
Problem is reproduceable and device can be fresh installed and hardreseted...
With Manila 2d it is OK.
Currently I am on Duttys 2.6.
Mort

I have the same problem in the satellite view.
Dutty 2.6

No one else???
Mort

Try ...
"Reset Google Maps" under options ...

Yep, same here. Satellite View sometimes crashes Google maps on Dutty 2.6. Lets see if the new release (2.7) will fix this.

same here...!
dutty 2.6

Mortimor said:
Hello,
in L26 V8 and all Duttys I tried Google Maps closes after some time by itself. Might be a memory problem??
Mostly happens in Sat-View with some zooming and searching etc...
Taskmanager shows about 20 Processes with GM.
Problem is reproduceable and device can be fresh installed and hardreseted...
With Manila 2d it is OK.
Currently I am on Duttys 2.6.
Mort
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I've been trying to replicate your problem. Testing this on Duttys V2.7 and I've been zooming in & out panning quickly left/right etc and haven't experienced your problem. But I also didn't experience this on V2.6 So I'm not sure its his roms that is causing your problems!!

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I think it is Manila 3 specific because its not with Manila 2 and it is on every NEW Rom I tried (Laurentius and Duttys). This is definetly not 2.6-spezific. In 2.4 it is too.
Google Maps resetting cant resolve the problem because if I newly install the Rom and hardreset it is with first try.
In german forum one told me that there is a limitation on 32 tasks at once - but I only have around 20 when it happens.
I think it is
- Manila 3 / new ROM specific
or
- a Google Maps 3.xx problem (my original Rom testing was with 2.xx GM
or
- region specific (so one could have it and one not cause beeing not in europe or so)...
or ...
Mort

I can confirm that it has happened to me once thus far. Laurentius V8 ROM.

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[May 28] WM6.1 and igo8 v8.0.0.31442, .35389 and HTC Home, new sys.txt variable infos

Hi all
so it is May and we have a lot of new 6.1 ROMS and igo8 final out...
[May 28]
L26 Kaiser Diamond Version 4 !!! (Core 19588) is working just by disabling the HTC home plugin.
new updated sys.txt variable list! thanx tweakradje in post #49 -50 on page 5
[May 27]
L26 Kaiser Diamond Version 3 !!! (Core 19588) is working just by disabling the HTC home plugin.
New method for a workaround Originally Posted by flushbeer
my solution (for the moment) is to put igo in the startup folder (19202 version of wm6.1).
disadvantage is, that igo starts every softreset.
advantage is i don't have to disable htc home every time i reset. and it works after EVERY softreset (planned or unplanned)
[May 23]
Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19585 Public Beta test Release reported working just by disabling the HTC home pln.
[May 22]
NavNGo iGO8 v.8.0.0.35389 Apr. 15 2008 also works fine with Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700. This version seems to tolerate better the phone calls and not loosing GPS after minimalisation.
L26_Kaiser_Diamond_Version_1 is reported working just by disabling the HTC home plugin.
[May 20]
i use igo8 final 8.0.0.31442 with Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700
it work mostly fine, i have some problems that after some phone call the gps driver is lost in igo8. but if you exit igo8 and restart
it works fine and has a 3 second GPS lock. After calls wiat 3-5 seconds to let igo get back to command.
if you have the startup problem with a ROM other than this, please try to disable parts of the HTC home plugin.
there is only 3 items which causes the problem: Weather, Music, Profile
to turn them off go to Startmenu\Settings\Personal\Today\
Go to the third panel: HTC Home and uncheck Weather, Music, Profile
turn them off and make a soft reset
if you have the startup problem as time passes after soft reset there is a chance that igo dont start up again
you can try to turn off aGPS also in advanced config but most ROMs come with this option off
if you have sys.txt problems try to have both sys.txt to be in good shape
sys.txt locations are in importance order:
\Program Files\iGO8\sys.txt
\Storage Card\iGo8\sys.txt
List of sys.txt variables:
in post #49 -50 on page 5
for kml extension POIs form www.poiplaza.com put them in the following folder:
\Storage Card\iGo8\content\userdata\poi\
first i had problems to list this POIs correctly but it started to work, perhaps a soft reset needed?
for phone icon to be active in POI info menus use the folowing variables in sys.txt:
[interface]
poi_show_all_btn=1
[phone]
driver="TAPI"
for touch flow addicts try the following settings
[map]
inertia_on_map_move=1
please inform me about new tweaks for kaiser and i'll try to keep up to date this thread...
Yes. I can confirm this also makes the MioMap v3.3 run!
Igo
kokok21 said:
Hi all
there is only 3 items which causes the problem: Weather, Music, Profile
turn them off and make a soft reset
after boot both igo works fine with htc today plug
after a soft reset if you enable Profile igo will still run...
as time passes after soft reset there is a chance that igo dont start up again
to turn them off go to Startmenu\Settings\Personal\Today\
Go to the third panel: HTC Home and uncheck Weather, Music, Profile
please shefs check the problem with Weather, Music, Profile
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Just an FYI...if you upgrade to the ROM Dutty released this morning then Igo will run with no problems...you don't have to disable anything...
After updating to Dutty's new official WM6.1 5.2.19716 UC ROM the MioMap v.3.3 works (with all HTC plugins selected)!
Unfortunatelly, I can confirm that iGo 8 Demo and iGo2006 do NOT work with latest Dutty's 6.1 ROM. Sometimes they launch, but most of the time I have to disable HTC Home and SR to make them launch.
I will try disable weather plugin and see if that helps (I don't use music and profile plugins). Could it be that it's the weather plugin specifically that does this?
Which version do you mean when you write the latest?
Cos igo should work with both of the hybrid versions.
At least with the first one (I think it was Apr. 1.) I never had a problem with igo
(Maybe you wanna try this rom?)
What I noticed with other roms: if I disabled things in HTC home, I had to start igo, minimize it, go through all the tabs that caused problems and after that I closed igo. If i didn't do that, igo would not start after pressing the problematic tabs.
DarkDvr said:
Unfortunatelly, I can confirm that iGo 8 Demo and iGo2006 do NOT work with latest Dutty's 6.1 ROM. Sometimes they launch, but most of the time I have to disable HTC Home and SR to make them launch.
I will try disable weather plugin and see if that helps (I don't use music and profile plugins). Could it be that it's the weather plugin specifically that does this?
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Actually, its the 'Music' plugin specifically that may need to be disabled (for some). IGo8 Final works otherwise for me w/ Dutty's Apr 29 ROM...
Nav.N.Go.iGO.PDA.v8.0.0.31442.Final
in combination with latest DUTTY rom work excellent here.
installed whole europe (total size was 2gb) with the poi's and such...works 100% so far and i dont encounter the same problems you did.
I'm using April 29 Dutty's 6.1 ROM - and both iGo versions do not work with it. Sometimes i can get it to work right after SR, even with HTC Home enabled, but if I close iGo, I won't be able to launch it again until HTC Home is disabled and I SR.
DarkDvr said:
I'm using April 29 Dutty's 6.1 ROM - and both iGo versions do not work with it. Sometimes i can get it to work right after SR, even with HTC Home enabled, but if I close iGo, I won't be able to launch it again until HTC Home is disabled and I SR.
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Possibly one of two things:
1) The IGo8 Demo version doesn't work.
or
2) There's something else on the PDA that's conflicting w/ it..
1 - I've used both versions (2006 and 8) many, many times on WM6 without any problems, so it must be WM6.1
Besides, many people are having same problems with WM6.1 HTC Home and iGo, it must be something that HTC Home does with WM6.1 that causes this.
DarkDvr said:
Besides, many people are having same problems with WM6.1 HTC Home and iGo, it must be something that HTC Home does with WM6.1 that causes this.
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Possibly, but then KeesKaas and I are both using it with HTC Home enabled without any issues.. Maybe you could try and reflash Dutty's Apr 29 ROM and try it..
assisted gps
disabling assisted gps might also be a solution to starting igo8.
I use duttys news rom also. and had problems starting igo8 . so i reflashed the rom, and now igo8 was running smooth. Then I started configuring the kaiser, and noticed that after enabling assisted GPS (through advanced config), Igo8 wouldn't start again. I now disabled assisted gps, and igo8 is running good again. I have done nothing to the htc home, weather, music settings.
sigaam said:
disabling assisted gps might also be a solution to starting igo8.
I use duttys news rom also. and had problems starting igo8 . so i reflashed the rom, and now igo8 was running smooth. Then I started configuring the kaiser, and noticed that after enabling assisted GPS (through advanced config), Igo8 wouldn't start again. I now disabled assisted gps, and igo8 is running good again. I have done nothing to the htc home, weather, music settings.
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and how can i disable assisted gps?
btw. anyone solved problem with timezone changing after starting igo8? when i start it, timezone sets +1H
michoid said:
and how can i disable assisted gps?
btw. anyone solved problem with timezone changing after starting igo8? when i start it, timezone sets +1H
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to disable a-gps you can use kaiertweak
as solution for your timezone problem add this to your sys.txt:
[timezone]
sync_os_timezone=0
reset_os_timezone=0
flushbeer said:
to disable a-gps you can youse kaiertweak
as solution for your timezone problem add this to your sys.txt:
[timezone]
sync_os_timezone=0
reset_os_timezone=0
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ok, thanks, i try it...
hmmm, i had disabled assisted gps so what now? will be some update/patch/fix or something for htc home, or igo? :/
michoid said:
hmmm, i had disabled assisted gps so what now? will be some update/patch/fix or something for htc home, or igo? :/
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You can only flash a rom on which igo works (wm6, 19716, or dutty hybrid)
flushbeer said:
You can only flash a rom on which igo works (wm6, 19716, or dutty hybrid)
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Hmmm, so I must reflash to Dutty's Hybrid? Now I have NoThrills V3. Is Dutty's Hybrid better?
it's not a must... but you can if you want ;-)
for me there is not much difference between these two roms (but i don't use many applications), so i decided to use the one where igo runs.

IGO 8 or IGO2006 doesn't work on WM6.1 Rom

Hi My friends,
I need help. I changed my rom yesterday official at&t 6.1 Rom and today I changed with HyperDragon III OMNIA WM6.1 WWE ROM Full Version.
I tried to install IGO 8 and IGO2006 on both Roms but it doens't respond.
Any problem on IGO with WM6.1 Roms?
Please help me to fix.
It is running but no positioning
Now I have fixed the problem, I installed Dutty's rom.
Program is running. But now it is not positioning... The weather is a little cloudy, any problem with weather?
Please help me
Igo versions before June 2008 dont work with WM6.1
Duttys Rom is based on WM6.0 thats why iGo8 works on there.
Any iGo v8.0.0.44898 or later will work fine on any New WM6.1 based Rom.
Hope this helped.
mskip said:
Igo versions before June 2008 dont work with WM6.1
Duttys Rom is based on WM6.0 thats why iGo8 works on there.
Any iGo v8.0.0.44898 or later will work fine on any New WM6.1 based Rom.
Hope this helped.
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I am running at&t's 6.1 sans bloat on my tilt and ig0 8.0.0.49545 july edition and it locks up on me..
any other suggestions or known conflicts? i have manilla2d installed and the random stuff that is needed for it to work right
Dr4g0n75 said:
I am running at&t's 6.1 sans bloat on my tilt and ig0 8.0.0.49545 july edition and it locks up on me..
any other suggestions or known conflicts? i have manilla2d installed and the random stuff that is needed for it to work right
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Is it getting as far as the menu screen and then freezing? The first time u run it it goes through your contacts list and checks for postcodes to add to its database so give it a few minutes because if u have alot of contacts it will take a while to compile everything. Im running the same configuration and everything is working fine.
Today I have just tried. It is working.
I tried many GPS programs, I think VisualGPSce is very fast for locking. Just for 8-10 sec for locking. GPSgate hasn't locked.
Thanks...
I've got wm6.1 and iGo from jan/febr was working ok,
now i tried to run it after half year and just window's pending symbol appears for half sec and nothing.
Tried to DL new iGo, new install. still not working.
no ROM change/no hard reset meantime.
but gave it up quickly, i don't need it now. just was curious.
here is a solution I found on the net ...
1. Turn off the HTC Home on the Today screen and change Appearance from HTC to WM6.1 (or default)
2. Softreset.
Also turn off AssistedGPS (AGPS) using KaiserTweak. I tried that & it worked for me (& on my wife's Tilt).
I have also found that Microsoft Voice Command can intefere with iGo8 it took me ages to figure that out in the end i had to turn off all the options apart from the phone settings which are the only ones i used anyway and that fixed it.
mskip said:
Is it getting as far as the menu screen and then freezing? The first time u run it it goes through your contacts list and checks for postcodes to add to its database so give it a few minutes because if u have alot of contacts it will take a while to compile everything. Im running the same configuration and everything is working fine.
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i have gotten to the menu screen and yes it has done the contact thing too
its when i hit the map icon or select a favorite to search... anything that actually has to do with navigating... i can browse teh menus fine... its actually when i try to use the program it locks up
p.s. agps is turned off...
Dr4g0n75 said:
i have gotten to the menu screen and yes it has done the contact thing too
its when i hit the map icon or select a favorite to search... anything that actually has to do with navigating... i can browse teh menus fine... its actually when i try to use the program it locks up
p.s. agps is turned off...
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Which version are you running?
Dr4g0n75 said:
I am running at&t's 6.1 sans bloat on my tilt and ig0 8.0.0.49545 july edition and it locks up on me..
any other suggestions or known conflicts? i have manilla2d installed and the random stuff that is needed for it to work right
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do you need any other info?
disabling HTC home worked in my case.
all versions I have work now. just no maps for me still there
tomtom garmin xt and google maps all work fine... just igo isnt working properly... this program is my favorite gps tool any help would be greatly appreciated... thanks guys
I have the Manilla 2d Touchflo installed on my Tilt, & in order to get Igo working I have to restart my Tilt & then open up Igo8 before starting Touchflo. It won't open when Touchflo is open...
DJayRage said:
I have the Manilla 2d Touchflo installed on my Tilt, & in order to get Igo working I have to restart my Tilt & then open up Igo8 before starting Touchflo. It won't open when Touchflo is open...
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tried that... no go for me
Thats really wierd I have a kaiser with manila2D running with all my other crap installed and igo8 works perfect for me. Just the wait the first time it ran to gather contact info but then no problems at all. Im running 8.0.0.49545 (july 30 3008) with tts voices and the ultra skin v5
Try disabling MSVC if you have it and see if that makes a difference.
I have had the same problem. I ended up getting the Sept 1 update of Igo8 on it works perfect on mine using hyperdragonIII and NATF v3. Im sure you can find it.
DJayRage said:
I have the Manilla 2d Touchflo installed on my Tilt, & in order to get Igo working I have to restart my Tilt & then open up Igo8 before starting Touchflo. It won't open when Touchflo is open...
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what version of wm are you running? it looks like only hyperdragon III is working...

TF3D on P3600 Trinity

I would like to install TF3D on a Trinity. Is it possible?
Thanks
Hi!
I've tried hard to install a TF3D clone on my Trinity and finally managed to:
Throttle Launcher 0.96 + TouchFlo 3D
but I'm not quite satisfied with the results:
Pda runs soooo slowly and behaves strangely. I enjoyed a number of bugs, crashes, unexpected soft resets and then removed the app...
Maybe a future version would fix it.
For official TF3D by HTC, I've simply never found a qvga version to test. Do you have one?
Yes I have tried that too with the same results.
I ended up removing it.
I wonder if TF3D is part of the ROM.

Anyone using igo8 with a wm 6.5? my TTS doesn't work now

I've been using igo8 with TTS on my Touch all the way till diamond. Previously everyting runs well on all stock wm 6.1 roms. After I flashed to Juicy8 WM 6.5 rom, my TTS suddenly would not work any more. All I got is a "ding" at each waypoint instead of pronouncing the street name etc.
I searched my a$$ off online and replaced all the TTS related files to the newest I could find online, still would not work. Asked in other forums, someone suggested that it may be the DLLs for TTS in the pack are not compatible with WM 6.5, but I do not want to flashed it back to 6.1 to test before I'm certain this is indeed the cause.
I'm using igo 8.3.2 series with up-to-date main program, the TTS packs are susanTTS high quality.
If you have any idea how to make the TTS work in Juicy ROM or generally wm 6.5 system, please share. TIA.
I'm not sure what TTS is. Is it TomTom Skin?
I am using 2.07.Gen.Y ROM with WM6.5. I have TomTom 7.915 and iGO8 8.0.0.44898 with the TomTom skin and they both work very well. The only issue I have is that I only have about 30Mb of RAM when TF3D is on, so I have to use TF Detacher to turn it off and this then gives me enough RAM for iGO8 to run. Perhaps you need a different ROM??
TTS is Text-To-Speech, it's almost a basic function now on all GPS units. All it does is to announce the street name and tell you to turn left or right etc.
re-flashed the phone to newer release juicy8 rom again. Before that I flashed back to sprint stock 6.1 ROM, igo8 TTS works fine. Then I flashed to the new 6.5 rom, and to my surprise the TTS worked for a while after I flashed it (with 54Mb available storage), but after a couple of programs installed and the available storage reduced the 30MB TTS stopped working again.
Tried to disable touchflo 3d to get some memory back, did not work.
BTW, TTS worked fine in 6.1 ROM previously when I normally have 20MB available storage memory. It might crash from time to time, but generally it was working. I don't understand why in 6.5 even with 30MB storage, it did not work. Or maybe it conflicted with one of my installed programs?
I had:
Resco expolorer
Hi-Cal
Phatenots ofr outlook
Phatpad
Touchpal
Others are built-in the ROM such as facebook, googlemap, opera etc.
With the rom in my sign and latest NeoS2007 drivers iGo is working perfectly.
To have TTS working good you need at least 50% of free ram...
Same problem on touch HD
I can confirm the same problem. It did work with TTS on WM6.5 23016,23017 versions. It did even work with 23037.
I have flashed to a new WM6.5 23041 version, and my TTS is mute. Also, trying to change regional setting crashes igo with message: "can't find big_flag_isl.bmp"
Any solution?
BigE
it has to be the rom because i used igo8 n a tts file and it didnt work at all, just liek u said all i heard was a ding sound, its defiantly wm6.5
Same problem on TD2 with official WM6.5 ROM
I'm having the same problem on my TD2:
WM6.5 ROM version 2.16.405.4 (67041) WWE
iGo8.3.4.102680
I also get the 'ding' with no voice after it.
Non-TTS voices work just fine.
When I first ran iGO8 after the upgrade from WM6.1 (where TTS *WAS* working), I did see some popups asking me to allow the Loquendo TTS DLLs to run. There are 4 DLLS but I only ever saw 3 popups asking for authentication. That's rather weird. Perhaps the 4th DLL is exiting silently in the background. I don't know.
What I do know is that it is ridiculous in this day and age of virtualised segmented memory models to design an application that requires such a big 'real' memory footprint! It seems that iGO8 attempt to load the entire 30MB TTS 'binary' in one hit when you start the application, rather than loading a small piece of it and reading from 'storage' when necessary. Maybe this is a Loquendo issue and not an iGO specific issue. Maybe there is a registry entry to tell Loquendo not to use so much memory on load. I don't know. It would seem sensible to allow dynamic tuning of the memory footprint of the TTS component to allow it to run under low-memory conditions. Surely it's not that hard for the developers!
Same issue here.
But the weird thing is that it worked twice for me in my TD2, regardless of the memory I used. But after hard resetting it stopped working again. So to me it's a mistery why it works say, 20% of the times.
Same Problem here.. till now
Device: O2 xda diamond pro (raphael)
Rom: Latest TAEL Rom (WM6.5)
iGO8 Version 8.3.## tested all from march to august ..
My TTS always works great in the past, untill now. Allready tested many different TTS Files, and voices. Bad luck
I saw the Post above, and i turned off tf3d. (before: ~54% ; after: ~44%) I also overwrite all the TTS Files (.dll) with other ones. (TTS-Fix found somewhere on the net.)
I attach the tts fix to my Post, actual they should work with other languages, too.
Try it and report back, hope it works!
PS: Copy/overwrite the new .dll s in iGO8 Folder (Maybe backup the old ones!) Sry, but the Manual is only in german..
copied the three files to replace files under \IGO8\ except the german one. It did not work.

Graphic problem on L26 and Dutty's roms

Hi,
This problem contains roms (blackstone): L26 v3.5 and Dutty's v4.3 final and newer, maybe on other ones too. In programs like AOE 1.25 or Siberia (those are games), if i run them i can only see white screen (with start bar) and hear music from that game in the background. So, I don't know where is the problem, because on native rom it worked. Maybe in graphic drivers I've tried ati and graphic driver pack3 from xda, but problem still persist. So please help.
Thanks
Me too.............my beloved game "Virtual Pool Mobile" get the same problem.
Dutty's v3 can play but up-grade to Dutty's v4.3 ....untill now cannot
So I stop use Dutty's ROM till now..
Have you tried using CleanRAM on option 2 just before you try playing one of these games?
Fallen Spartan said:
Have you tried using CleanRAM on option 2 just before you try playing one of these games?
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Thanks for you reaction, but it doesn't work. I've tried it and results is the same. btw after level 2 I got 78MB free.
So any other idias?

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