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Kaiser Prompts For Password

Hi,
Every now and then i'll wake up in the morning with my Tytn II II prompting me to enter a password, i've tried entering everything and checked all security features and made sure the "prompt for password when not used" has not been selected but nothing works, my only choice is to reset the device.
My main problem is the alarm clock does not work when it enters this mode which means I have to set another alarm clock just incase the phone enters the "enter password" mode over night.
I've hard reset the device but still this doesn't help.
Any suggestions?

I also have this crazy problem. Every now and again every 1-2 days I'll switch on my phone and be prompted for a password. I've never set any and the only answer is to soft reset and then all is fine until it happens again. The only other notable thing is that after about 5 failed guesses is tells me to input a1b2c3. Has anyone any idea what's going on - it's driving me nuts!!!
(ps I've tried zenyee but still no joy)

Wow, that would be annoying. Sorry, no help here as I use a password after one of my former devices "mistepeared"
Along these lines, I get prompted for my password everytime I connect to my Vista machine at home. I have yet to find a way to turn this off either. good thing it isn't my work machine as it would drive me crazy. At least le me enter the password on the main computer's keyboard instead of forcing me to open up my phone and type it in...

Shafty said:
I also have this crazy problem. Every now and again every 1-2 days I'll switch on my phone and be prompted for a password. I've never set any and the only answer is to soft reset and then all is fine until it happens again. The only other notable thing is that after about 5 failed guesses is tells me to input a1b2c3. Has anyone any idea what's going on - it's driving me nuts!!!
(ps I've tried zenyee but still no joy)
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That is well weird.. Someone gets the same thing with an HP iPaq here: http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service...47626+1201639304018+28353475&threadId=1190832
Unfortunatly theres no solution offered there either..
edit: I just had a play round after reading something and I think its something to do with the encryption for the SD card.. are either of you using it? If not are you synced to a work exchange server? Remote Device Wipe uses this code as well by the looks of it.. Have a read of this: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile...ows-mobile-6-storage-card-encryption-faq.aspx
The comments are where it mentions that code but the whole thing is worth a read.. theres also a document linked that tells you about device wipe if you havent heard of it.. I suspect this is related to your problem (in fact im sure it is)

PIN lock Kaiser when screen is turned on (as security setting)

I used to be able to simply turn off my Trinity to engage a PIN lock.
I want to be able to have the phone locked, once the screen is turned on again as oppose to a timely interval of x minutes (very annoying).
I cant seem to remember how I enabled this feature on my Trinity.
Any help?

Hi MrTW,
If I understood you correctly this should work?
1. Go to Start>Settings>Lock
2. Tick "Prompt if device is unused for"
3. Set the time option to 0 Minutes
That should do it - let me know how you get on.
Zippyioa

Hi zippyioa,
this is how it used to work on my Trinity. On the Tilt however it locks every 30 seconds or so and requires for me to enter the PIN (pretty annoying).
zippyioa said:
Hi MrTW,
If I understood you correctly this should work?
1. Go to Start>Settings>Lock
2. Tick "Prompt if device is unused for"
3. Set the time option to 0 Minutes
That should do it - let me know how you get on.
Zippyioa
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Hi MrTW,
The instructions I gave you should set the phone to ask for a pin when you switch it on - isn't that what you wanted?
Zippyioa

yep, that is what it does essential. But on top of it the phone PIN locks each 30 seconds of none use.
I would like to have the phone PIN locked only when the screen is switched off; once the screen is on it shouldnt look.
I hope that makes sense.
Thanks for helping out!
zippyioa said:
Hi MrTW,
The instructions I gave you should set the phone to ask for a pin when you switch it on - isn't that what you wanted?
Zippyioa
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MrTW said:
yep, that is what it does essential. But on top of it the phone PIN locks each 30 seconds of none use.
I would like to have the phone PIN locked only when the screen is switched off; once the screen is on it shouldnt look.
I hope that makes sense.
Thanks for helping out!
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I get what you mean. You want the phone to ask for a PIN code when you switch it on, but you dont want it to ask you for a PIN code after x seconds of not using it.
I have searched for an answer but cant find one
You said you could do this on your Trinity - maybe it was available in WM5 but has been removed in WM6?
Any ideas anyone??
The other option you could try is to look at 3rd party software like this?
Let me know how you get on - this problem is bugging me now!!
Zippyioa

I had this too on my trin running WM6. I want it on the Kaiser ! I tried the 0 second thing, doesn't work right =(

My phone is policy locked by my corporate IT so I can't try this, but try setting the lock time and the auto-off time to the same value. Sounds like you already know where to find the lock time...the auto-off time is at Start->Settings->System Tab->Power->Advanced Tab.
Seems to me that if you set both to say 5 minutes, you're phone would stay on if you're using it and turn off after 5 minutes of inactivity. Since that is the same value as your lock time, it would be locked when you turned it back on.
Of course, the obvious trade-off here is battery life.

well, this solution also does not work.
The phone locks after 5 minutes (which makes sense, since I tell the phone to lock) but the phone does not ask for a PIN entry if i turn the screen back on again.
Its funny that this pretty important feature has been forgotten - time for someone to write a little program and earn a few bucks (I am the first to buy).
Thanks for all the help so far!
Fitipaldi1 said:
My phone is policy locked by my corporate IT so I can't try this, but try setting the lock time and the auto-off time to the same value. Sounds like you already know where to find the lock time...the auto-off time is at Start->Settings->System Tab->Power->Advanced Tab.
Seems to me that if you set both to say 5 minutes, you're phone would stay on if you're using it and turn off after 5 minutes of inactivity. Since that is the same value as your lock time, it would be locked when you turned it back on.
Of course, the obvious trade-off here is battery life.
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Workaround
Hey, I've been looking for a solution to this for some time and I have finally figured out a way, to enable this feature. It's pretty ugly and I'm sure one of the gifted programmers out there could write a little program to do this all-in-one in no time, as mentioned above...! But anyway, here goes:
First of all, you need a program, that will allow you to call up the PIN lock functionality via a shortcut (alternatively, if you figure out where in the PPC file structure this command is hidden, this would work as well and possibly quicker). I use the freeware PocketToolman for this. Download here http://pockettoolman.blogspot.com/ and install. Then either: a) launch the program (which initially will only activate the tray icon), tap on the tray icon, go to settings - options and click through to the last page where you can find "Create PT Function shortcuts", tick the box saying PIN Lock and press OK or b) if you prefer creating shortcuts yourself, you can call the Toolman exe file using "/Lock" after the filepath (no inverted commas) and place this shortcut in a convenient place.
The second part of the solution, is to get a program, that allows you to manipulate notification queues. I personally use MemMaid (http://www.dinarsoft.com/memmaid/) which unfortunately is not freeware, but a lovely tool, worth paying for. The interesting thing is, that for the purpose of this exercise, you may be able to get away with using only the trial version. (There is the possibility, that there may be freeware out there, that can emulate this particular functionality, but frankly I couldn't be bothered to look, as it took me ages to figure this out as it is! ;-) ) Anyway, assuming you use MemMaid (and I would recommend you try it out using that, to see if it will work on your device as well...) you open it up and go to the 2nd tab at the bottom (at least for me, I'm using v2.0). That should take you into the notification queue. If not, then try the drop down menu at the top, to give you more options for that tab. Now you click on the "add" button and on the following screen click on the three dots next to program and choose either the automatically created shortcut from Toolman (should be in the Windows/Start Menu/Programs folder, may differ if you have a different native language) option a) or choose the shortcut you created yourself using option b) above. Now the final step is to change the event type from "Run at time" to "The device woke up". A click on add and then on OK and Voilà! You have a PPC that will no longer autolock when on, only when the device is woken up from suspension and on reboot or cold boot! Well, technically that's not quite true, a little thing I forgot and should've mentioned earlier: You need to turn the WM Lock on via settings-personal-lock for this all to work, as this method builds on WM resources and the setting to use for the time is of course 24h, as that is the longest available. So tecnically the other time you will be prompted for a password, is if you leave your device on (not suspended) and don't use it for 24h! For me at least, this is a relatively unrealistic scenario, as I really cannot see myself going 24h without my Uni! ;-) Hope this has helped you guys, btw if the need arises, I could translate all this into German if that would help anybody, I'm just too lazy to do so right now!
Ok known bug: It seems not to work the first time you suspend and reawaken the device after a reboot, but after that it works just fine.

Disable pin on start up?

I have lock set up for pin as I am using my android wear device as a trusted device, so it gets bypassed when my watch is near.
When I have to reboot/power on phone, the boot animation starts and then will ask for my pin. Once the pin is entered the boot animation starts again and completes the start up to lock screen. Does anyone know a way to disable that initial pin? It's pretty annoying... especially if having to do a reboot have changes take effect etc.
Edit: nevermind. I disabled my pin and then re-enabled and now I see the option to have a pin at start up or not.

It turns out that you can turn off PIN on boot but it's enabled by default and it's not obvious how to do it. You have to turn off the PIN (set your security type to None), then re-enable a PIN. At that point it will ask you if you want a PIN on boot or not.

[email protected] said:
It turns out that you can turn off PIN on boot but it's enabled by default and it's not obvious how to do it. You have to turn off the PIN (set your security type to None), then re-enable a PIN. At that point it will ask you if you want a PIN on boot or not.
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Interesting, I never knew this.

Actually you dont need to remove it then re-do it again
just setting>security>screen lock> type PIN> PIN
then you will see Secure start-up ( Require PIN to start device/ No Thank you)

Thanks, couldn't figure it out on Nexus 6P. All good now.

[email protected] said:
Actually you dont need to remove it then re-do it again
just setting>security>screen lock> type PIN> PIN
then you will see Secure start-up ( Require PIN to start device/ No Thank you)
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Thanks!!!! I have the G5 and was googling this very same issue!
Pressing the pin option, as to select it (whether you have it set up already or not) will present that toggle. Many thanks again.

jasonftfw said:
I have lock set up for pin as I am using my android wear device as a trusted device, so it gets bypassed when my watch is near.
When I have to reboot/power on phone, the boot animation starts and then will ask for my pin. Once the pin is entered the boot animation starts again and completes the start up to lock screen. Does anyone know a way to disable that initial pin? It's pretty annoying... especially if having to do a reboot have changes take effect etc.
Edit: nevermind. I disabled my pin and then re-enabled and now I see the option to have a pin at start up or not.
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Guess what? You no longer have encryption worth anything. Your data is protected only by password "default_password". If you have TWRP you can verify for yourself.... you can access and read all your files without ever once entering your pin.
More details here
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/47uj5r/twrp_is_decrypting_my_encrypted_data_partition/
The bottom line: if you want the security benefits of encrypted data, you need to enable pin on boot.

i disabled "require password to start device" because if my phone gets lost and runs out of battery and the finders charge it up again and thus Android boots up again, i want my lock screen to be visible so they can see my email to contact me to return it. also - i want to be able to call the phone if lost. this "lost phone" scenario greatly outweighs my need for greater security beyond the normal lockscreen password protection.
Nexus 6P + AT&T GoPhone

Gekko2 said:
i disabled "require password to start device" because if my phone gets lost and runs out of battery and the finders charge it up again and thus Android boots up again, i want my lock screen to be visible so they can see my email to contact me to return it. also - i want to be able to call the phone if lost. this "lost phone" scenario greatly outweighs my need for greater security beyond the normal lockscreen password protection.
Nexus 6P + AT&T GoPhone
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Your lock screen message is shown when prompted for the password to start the device. No need to disable security for that reason...

Didgeridoohan said:
Your lock screen message is shown when prompted for the password to start the device. No need to disable security for that reason...
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i stand corrected!

Didgeridoohan said:
Your lock screen message is shown when prompted for the password to start the device. No need to disable security for that reason...
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BUT i still want to be able to CALL my phone if LOST and phone calls will not work if set as "require password to start device" upon reboot. hence - i still disabled for that reason.

Gekko2 said:
BUT i still want to be able to CALL my phone if LOST and phone calls will not work if set as "require password to start device" upon reboot. hence - i still disabled for that reason.
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Ok, fair enough. I consider my data more valuable than the phone though, so I keep it enabled for that reason.

Didgeridoohan said:
Your lock screen message is shown when prompted for the password to start the device. No need to disable security for that reason...
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Didgeridoohan said:
Ok, fair enough. I consider my data more valuable than the phone though, so I keep it enabled for that reason.
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my sensitive data is all encrypted in an MS Word 2013 Encrypted Password Protected Document within a password protected Dropbox App with a password protected Phone. they have to get through 3 heavy layers to get to my sensitive data.
also - don't forget about "Find My Phone" with Android Device Manager and Lookout. both would be not work if "require password to start device" upon reboot.

Gekko2 said:
my sensitive data is all encrypted in an MS Word 2013 Encrypted Password Protected Document within a password protected Dropbox App with a password protected Phone. they have to get through 3 heavy layers to get to my sensitive data.
also - don't forget about "Find My Phone" with Android Device Manager and Lookout. both would be not work if "require password to start device" upon reboot.
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I know it's an older post, but I had to reply on this.
You see "3 heavy layers". I see 0 security layers.
First of all, a password protected phone doesn't stop anyone to hook up your phone to a computer and extract all the data they want from your partitions with adb commands. There goes the "1st layer".
Secondly, a password protected Dropbox app doesn't mean anything if you already downloaded the files on your phone. See the above. You have to download if you want to view and edit the document you mentioned. It will only protect your online data. Here goes your "2nd layer"
And the last one, a password protected Word document? Really? Brute forcing tools are wide avaible to crack Office documents. Security is a joke on this one. There goes your "3rd layer".
Anyhow I do share the same thought with you to let the phone boot into Android in order to call and track a lost phone. But only because I use Cerberus which survives factory resets. Most thieves are not knowledgeable in my opinion, so chances are high I could keep tracking my phone. Anyone who has the knowledge can re-format the phone anyway, so just hoping on the first category petty thieves

Wavealot said:
I know it's an older post, but I had to reply on this.
You see "3 heavy layers". I see 0 security layers.
First of all, a password protected phone doesn't stop anyone to hook up your phone to a computer and extract all the data they want from your partitions with adb commands. There goes the "1st layer".
Secondly, a password protected Dropbox app doesn't mean anything if you already downloaded the files on your phone. See the above. You have to download if you want to view and edit the document you mentioned. It will only protect your online data. Here goes your "2nd layer"
And the last one, a password protected Word document? Really? Brute forcing tools are wide avaible to crack Office documents. Security is a joke on this one. There goes your "3rd layer".
Anyhow I do share the same thought with you to let the phone boot into Android in order to call and track a lost phone. But only because I use Cerberus which survives factory resets. Most thieves are not knowledgeable in my opinion, so chances are high I could keep tracking my phone. Anyone who has the knowledge can re-format the phone anyway, so just hoping on the first category petty thieves
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You would be amazed at how well that doesn't work. The first steps when stealing a phone is to remove the sim card which makes all teaching apps useless. Then it is a full format and wipe of the device while loading a new os, then depending on the store that bought it they will also change the IMEI of the device.
When someone steals your phone, your info is the last thing they want. It's the device it's self.

[email protected] said:
Actually you dont need to remove it then re-do it again
just setting>security>screen lock> type PIN> PIN
then you will see Secure start-up ( Require PIN to start device/ No Thank you)
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I tried this on my Nexus 6p, but it still asks for pin when rebooting. Do you know of any other way to get this removed?

correct fix
Your battery must be at 80% or more and on charger. Enable password lock and check no thanks then using 5 letters and 1 number enter a password. Then scroll down to trust agent and turn off the agents. Now goto lock screen and disable everything by clicking non. Reboot device.

thank uuuuuuuu
[email protected] said:
It turns out that you can turn off PIN on boot but it's enabled by default and it's not obvious how to do it. You have to turn off the PIN (set your security type to None), then re-enable a PIN. At that point it will ask you if you want a PIN on boot or not.
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Thanks, It's worked for me ^_^

I restarted my phone and now it says secure restart. It doesn't give me a pin pad so when I do type the numbers it dont work. How do I get past the secure startup if my lock screen password don't even work?

Need help for my sister said:
I restarted my phone and now it says secure restart. It doesn't give me a pin pad so when I do type the numbers it dont work. How do I get past the secure startup if my lock screen password don't even work?
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Password Recovery

I bought a new G6 (unlocked) for my sister, who lives in another state. She activated the new phone last night (Mint Mobile). When she got to the screen asking for entry of a password to protect against unauthorized use she entered a complex password (she didn't know she could just skip that screen). She wrote the password down, but now she can't find it. I called her this morning and she was able to use the fingerprint scanner to open the phone enough to answer my call, but she can't get to her apps.
I am aware that this sounds a little "fishy", but I didn't know where else to turn. Is there any way to reset or remove that password? Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks, Jerry

geronimo52xx said:
I bought a new G6 (unlocked) for my sister, who lives in another state. She activated the new phone last night (Mint Mobile). When she got to the screen asking for entry of a password to protect against unauthorized use she entered a complex password (she didn't know she could just skip that screen). She wrote the password down, but now she can't find it. I called her this morning and she was able to use the fingerprint scanner to open the phone enough to answer my call, but she can't get to her apps.
I am aware that this sounds a little "fishy", but I didn't know where else to turn. Is there any way to reset or remove that password? Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks, Jerry
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She can boot to recovery and reset the whole phone, the only option if bootloader is locked.

Got to wipe the phone and start over. tell her to make sure next time it's a simple password because she's going to have to use it every time to unlock the device if she has a screen lock set to password. even if it's set to fingerprint you have to enter the password anytime you reboot the device to unlock it the first time.
It's there to prevent unauthorized use so no there's no way around it. Except for factory resetting. even then make sure she logs in with the same Google account because she probably enabled factory reset protection as well.

madbat99 said:
Got to wipe the phone and start over. tell her to make sure next time it's a simple password because she's going to have to use it every time to unlock the device if she has a screen lock set to password. even if it's set to fingerprint you have to enter the password anytime you reboot the device to unlock it the first time.
It's there to prevent unauthorized use so no there's no way around it. Except for factory resetting. even then make sure she logs in with the same Google account because she probably enabled factory reset protection as well.
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Thanks for the suggestions. I walked her through the factory reset procedure, but when she tried to set up the phone and entered her Google credentials the phone said "searching" and wouldn't go past that screen. She finally called Motorola and they said if I could send proof of purchase she could forward it to them and, if approved, they will ask her to send them the phone and they will send her another new phone. She is still waiting,

geronimo52xx said:
Thanks for the suggestions. I walked her through the factory reset procedure, but when she tried to set up the phone and entered her Google credentials the phone said "searching" and wouldn't go past that screen. She finally called Motorola and they said if I could send proof of purchase she could forward it to them and, if approved, they will ask her to send them the phone and they will send her another new phone. She is still waiting,
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That's a bummer. They should send another one though. It's covered since you didn't unlock the bootloader.

Question i just changed my pattern lock on my s21 ultra and forgot it. help please!

omg.
my friend just seen my pattern when i unlocked my phone so i decided to change my pattern (it had been a real long time since i changed it anyway) so i did it.
i cant remember what i changed it to.
i actually changed it 2x but the first pattern i thought was too easy so i changed it again.
i didnt make it any harder as in more dots to complete the pattern but hard enough i dont remember it.
im on a s21 ultra of course.
is there a limit on how many failed attempts i can do?
so far i think im under 10 but it does make me wait 30secs alot.
if there is an unlimited amount i think i will guess it but if there is a finite i dont want to mess it up and do a factory reset or erase.
i have alot of my grandbabies pics and videos on there.
if there is a way to bypass it please tell me.
i know my google acct on computer etc... thats not a problem and that is the same acct on my phone.

en11gma said:
omg.
my friend just seen my pattern when i unlocked my phone so i decided to change my pattern (it had been a real long time since i changed it anyway) so i did it.
i cant remember what i changed it to.
i actually changed it 2x but the first pattern i thought was too easy so i changed it again.
i didnt make it any harder as in more dots to complete the pattern but hard enough i dont remember it.
im on a s21 ultra of course.
is there a limit on how many failed attempts i can do?
so far i think im under 10 but it does make me wait 30secs alot.
if there is an unlimited amount i think i will guess it but if there is a finite i dont want to mess it up and do a factory reset or erase.
i have alot of my grandbabies pics and videos on there.
if there is a way to bypass it please tell me.
i know my google acct on computer etc... thats not a problem and that is the same acct on my phone.
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Do you have a Samsung account on it?

Kenora_I said:
Do you have a Samsung account on it?
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i not sure. i think i might have but i think i deleted it but it keeps asking me to same my passwords to samsung and i keep hitting never.

unless you have an unlocked bootloader I don't know that there's anything that can be done. I would just get them all wrong at this point and see if it let's you reset it with a good account. If you BL is unlocked you could boot into a custom recovery and wipe the security file.

en11gma said:
i not sure. i think i might have but i think i deleted it but it keeps asking me to same my passwords to samsung and i keep hitting never.
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Can only be done if you have find my device enabled and have an active internet connection in the phone tho
Step 1. Open the internet browser on your notebook and input the following website
address: https://findmymobile.samsung.com, click on the Sign in button and input your login credentials of your Samsung account, then click on Sign in button once more.
image to login to find my mobile web page
Step 2. The mobile device registered under your Samsung account will appear on the right-side of the screen. If you have multiple devices registered under the same Samsung account, make sure you select the device that needs to be remotely unlocked. Refer to the image below and click on the Unlock icon to unlock your device.
image after login to find my mobile web page
Step 3. Once you click on Unlock, a pop-up window will appear asking to verify the password of your Samsung account. After you input your password, click on the NEXT button, the pop-up window will automatically close and another pop-up window will appear with the result of remotely unlocking your device

orangekid said:
unless you have an unlocked bootloader I don't know that there's anything that can be done. I would just get them all wrong at this point and see if it let's you reset it with a good account. If you BL is unlocked you could boot into a custom recovery and wipe the security file.
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i just logged into my samsung account and it says i have no linked devices.
grrrr
is there a limit before it factory reset my phone

Kenora_I said:
Can only be done if you have find my device enabled and have an active internet connection in the phone tho
Step 1. Open the internet browser on your notebook and input the following website
address: https://findmymobile.samsung.com, click on the Sign in button and input your login credentials of your Samsung account, then click on Sign in button once more.
image to login to find my mobile web page
Step 2. The mobile device registered under your Samsung account will appear on the right-side of the screen. If you have multiple devices registered under the same Samsung account, make sure you select the device that needs to be remotely unlocked. Refer to the image below and click on the Unlock icon to unlock your device.
image after login to find my mobile web page
Step 3. Once you click on Unlock, a pop-up window will appear asking to verify the password of your Samsung account. After you input your password, click on the NEXT button, the pop-up window will automatically close and another pop-up window will appear with the result of remotely unlocking your device
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i have 4 devices in there but not the one im using. crap!
do i have unlimited failed attempts on the pattern unlock?

en11gma said:
i just logged into my samsung account and it says i have no linked devices.
grrrr
is there a limit before it factory reset my phone
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Well, at this point you probably need to reset the phone, as you didn't link your Samsung account.
There actually isn't any way to recover the data Unless you can guess the pattern again.
I don't know if Samsung themselves would unlock the phone if you took it to the support center providing proof that you own the phone, but that could get your data back idk
In my opinion it is worth a try in this case

Kenora_I said:
Well, at this point you probably need to reset the phone, as you didn't link your Samsung account.
There actually isn't any way to recover the data Unless you can guess the pattern again.
I don't know if Samsung themselves would unlock the phone if you took it to the support center providing proof that you own the phone, but that could get your data back idk
In my opinion it is worth a try in this case
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do i have unlimited tries on the pattern unlock or will it erase my data after so many failed attempts?

en11gma said:
do i have unlimited tries on the pattern unlock or will it erase my data after so many failed attempts?
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Depends if you had that option enabled in settings, by default it is disabled

en11gma said:
omg.
my friend just seen my pattern when i unlocked my phone so i decided to change my pattern (it had been a real long time since i changed it anyway) so i did it.
i cant remember what i changed it to.
i actually changed it 2x but the first pattern i thought was too easy so i changed it again.
i didnt make it any harder as in more dots to complete the pattern but hard enough i dont remember it.
im on a s21 ultra of course.
is there a limit on how many failed attempts i can do?
so far i think im under 10 but it does make me wait 30secs alot.
if there is an unlimited amount i think i will guess it but if there is a finite i dont want to mess it up and do a factory reset or erase.
i have alot of my grandbabies pics and videos on there.
if there is a way to bypass it please tell me.
i know my google acct on computer etc... thats not a problem and that is the same acct on my phone.
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Your only solution is too wipe your phone. So take better care next time and chalk this one up to experience

jrkruse said:
Your only solution is too wipe your phone. So take better care next time and chalk this one up to experience
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Samsung might unlock it at their support centers yknow if they have proof of ownership

Kenora_I said:
Depends if you had that option enabled in settings, by default it is disabled
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so how many failed attempts do i get?

en11gma said:
so how many failed attempts do i get?
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Probably 3 then a waiting time, but it's probably more easier to take it to Samsung and get them to unlock it for you, since you own the phone they can do it.

Kenora_I said:
Samsung might unlock it at their support centers…..
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Yea I wouldn’t hold my breath on that happening but good luck

Kenora_I said:
Probably 3 then a waiting time, but it's probably more easier to take it to Samsung and get them to unlock it for you, since you own the phone they can do it.
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i live in the country. i dont think there is a samsung store even in my state. im in iowa in usa

Samsung can't unlock it... pretty sure.
Once you set a lock screen the security is very good, too good. Sleep on it to see if the pattern comes to you... you still remember it.
That failing, suck it up. It may have not been your fault at all, see below.
I never set a screen lock, 2x tap on/off.
Never set a a bios password.
And most importantly never encrypt data backup hdds, etc.
You are the one most likely to get locked out... lesson learned the hard way.
A firmware failure, or external forces beyond your control (high energy particles of cosmic origin can do it*) can put you in a no win situation once you set an eccess password. While if you hadn't you likely wouldn't be locked out. I had a laptop bios lock me out, the password was simple a simple "S" even years latter I remember it... but the bios doesn't!
*this isn't a joke. Flying or being at higher elevations increases the risk. While it is slight when under the protection of the ionosphere it's still a random failure factor. One high energy particle can change the value of a flash memory cell without damaging it. The data however is corrupted unless redundantly backup which is one reason why spacecraft use at least 3 redundant computers.

blackhawk said:
Samsung can't unlock it... pretty sure.
Once you set a lock screen the security is very good, too good. Sleep on it to see if the pattern comes to you... you still remember it.
That failing, suck it up. It may have not been your fault at all, see below.
I never set a screen lock, 2x tap on/off.
Never set a a bios password.
And most importantly never encrypt data backup hdds, etc.
You are the one most likely to get locked out... lesson learned the hard way.
A firmware failure, or external forces beyond your control (high energy particles of cosmic origin can do it*) can put you in a no win situation once you set an eccess password. While if you hadn't you likely wouldn't be locked out. I had a laptop bios lock me out, the password was simple a simple "S" even years latter I remember it... but the bios doesn't!
*this isn't a joke. Flying or being at higher elevations increases the risk. While it is slight when under the protection of the ionosphere it's still a random failure factor. One high energy particle can change the value of a flash memory cell without damaging it. The data however is corrupted unless redundantly backup which is one reason why spacecraft use at least 3 redundant computers.
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omg wut ._.

Even if u hard reset, u will be asked to input your Samsung account and password, anf even with out knowing the pattern you have the option of putting in your PIN.
If you don't know your own PIN code then, something Is wrong!

death365 said:
Even if u hard reset, u will be asked to input your Samsung account and password, anf even with out knowing the pattern you have the option of putting in your PIN.
If you don't know your own PIN code then, something Is wrong!
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It would be Google account and they said they changed their pattern and lost the combination, i also have had the same problem b4. I just used find my phone to unlock the device