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WM6 HTC_Charmer Works

Okay I wanted to Apologize to everyone, It took some time to get my device flashed to WM6 and it’s know where I wanted. The only difference I did is not allowing the extrom to customize with HR.
No need to put any guide out if you read the forums you will get wm6 working.
Thanks.
Window Mobile6(thx 2 Vlodeck & Nocturne)
Rom version: 10.2.0.8 WWE
Rom date: 2/03/07
Radio version:02.19.21
Protocol version: 4.1.13.09

Your charmer is just the same as with mine.
I think it is just setup problem why you can not connect to GPRS.
I have flashed a TouchFlo version WM6 to my charmer (WWE version), it works well.

that you cannot flash wm6 does not mean others can't, so please stop shouting "wm6 does not work".
many people are using it - and many people are satisfied with it - imho this is proving that WM6 works. most of this people ha CIDs locked devices - and they have no problems. I don't khow why you have yor problems, but you have just few possibilities:
1) you are lazy to read forums and finding solutions, or
2) you do not understand what are you reading about or
3) you are using some really old radio and this may be the negative effect, or
4) your charmer is somehow damaged machine, bad memmory blocks or stuff like that
Remember, that charmer is just one, there are no variants, no different generations. All your problems are pointing to something, that must be completely different from others. Focus on radio at first...you have the old one (the same I have - mine works fine)
Another thing that may affect the gameplay is your computer - try to flash from another one. There are no more possibilities.

Ulymanchild said:
1. I’ve tried RUU update with wm6 essentials.002 and it wouldn’t flashed
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it means JUST that your device is CID locked
Ulymanchild said:
2. Tried shelltool flashing & xbeta, and extracted OS and it worked, but it had bugs with elatepushservice.exe and not able to go GPRS Internet.
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search for differences - nobody has the same problems
Ulymanchild said:
3. Repeated the process and 3-5 times and if you’re not careful you may crash you phone ( I did) had to get a new one.
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Unlock your phone and you will never brick it. If you are rather buying new machine than finding solutions, get rid of WM devices, buy Nokia and leave us alone.
Ulymanchild said:
4. New phone has IPL: 2.06.001 SPL: 2.06.001 and it’s now even harder to try to flash
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harder? It's the same, why should it be harder?
Ulymanchild said:
5. Able to flash WWE but it’s still wm5, oh well I guess I will wait two months and get a HTC_Touch but it will need to learn to Flash from German to English.
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mentioned 1000 times in this forum...I cannot believe that somebody can still ask this...

The purpose of my thread was not to attack anyone. I think the information and effort here is very good and all the people like yourself and others developers are doing an outstanding job!
When you try and try and fail, I know it’s frustrating and some of us continue to try. I know I’m not done trying; I still want to be able to have my Charmer to operate under WM6.
I want to make it clear to everyone; I did take my time to read all the forums.
(PLEAES READ FORUMS PPL)
I’m not saying don’t try upgrading, (PLEASE DO TRY!) and don’t give up, take a break to clear your head and find other means to your goal.
All I’m giving is a caution. I flashed my device with out taking my time to go thru the step’s and it crashed. Lucky the T-mobile Company replaced it because my contract is not up!!!!
And lasting thing before I go, I’m not attacking anyone this is General for all!!! I thought forums were for discussions purpose and to help each other find solutions. So when I put information out here, it’s to see if anyone had same issues and maybe give me a some idea to resolve.

Yuking said:
I have flashed a TouchFlo version WM6 to my charmer (WWE version), it works well.
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you flashed a touchflo version to charmer?
tried to find it, but no way! where can i find this ROM?
rgds,
ap0ll0

ap0ll0 said:
you flashed a touchflo version to charmer?
tried to find it, but no way! where can i find this ROM?
rgds,
ap0ll0
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Touchflo version sounds good. Where, where, where!!!!!

People, please do not get so excited about that touchFLO. Firstly, it doesnt work as it should. You have to press softkey to launch it first. Secondly its slow and inconvenient.
And thirdly, happy to hear that Ulymanchild finally got the wm6 issue sorted out

vlodeck said:
People, please do not get so excited about that touchFLO. Firstly, it doesnt work as it should. You have to press softkey to launch it first. Secondly its slow and inconvenient.
And thirdly, happy to hear that Ulymanchild finally got the wm6 issue sorted out
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vlodeck, have you tried the Wizard versions then?
I just like to try new things out, if I didn't i would still be on my original T-Mobile wm5 rom.
cheers

Sorry, these two days I did not come to here.
Here is the URL of TouchFlo version of WM6 (Charmer), but it is in Chinese. (Fantastic B4, with Touch FLO for 818+).
You should register first.
http://www.it1861.net/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=5480&page=1&fromuid=2244#pid36089
PS1: This rom is not created by me! I just quote it~
PS2: If you can not download it or do not want to register, just tell me a place I can upload it.
PS3: My charmer: 3.08.0001/3.08.0001
Thanks.

vlodeck said:
People, please do not get so excited about that touchFLO. Firstly, it doesnt work as it should. You have to press softkey to launch it first. Secondly its slow and inconvenient.
And thirdly, happy to hear that Ulymanchild finally got the wm6 issue sorted out
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Yes, I agree with you strongly. I don not think using TouchFLO is a good way to operate my charmer. I flashed it and tried it, but I will not use it again but show it to others.

Vlodeck, I wanted to thank you for those kinds words also, I wanted to put out that it was allot easier for me to bootload essential v.002 by extracting the nk.nbf and placed it on 000.4. I think the trick was nb2nbf_wizard.
Oh and I was able to cid unlock with Lokiwiz03 after I flashed to wm6 YOU GUY’s ARE THE BEST!

Flashing to WM06 - newbie questions

Hi all,
sorry for the newbie question but I'm thinking about upgrading my Trinity to WM06 and wondered if anoyone could answer some basic questions as I'm a bit confusted (... not that techie I'm afraid)
1. As my device is a SIM free, non network attached HTC P3600, do I need to do any of this "Hard-SPL" upgrading before selecting a ROM
2. is there a simple step - by - step flashing guide for newbies like me anywhere
3. Do the ROMs provided here enable SDHC for the device. I want to use higher capacity mini SD cards - this is a really important requirement
4. I love the inbuilt GPS and Tom Tom solution - are there any issues with GPS/Tom tom support in the upgrades
Many thanks in advance
Coe

coe62 said:
Hi all,
sorry for the newbie question but I'm thinking about upgrading my Trinity to WM06 and wondered if anoyone could answer some basic questions as I'm a bit confusted (... not that techie I'm afraid)
1. As my device is a SIM free, non network attached HTC P3600, do I need to do any of this "Hard-SPL" upgrading before selecting a ROM
2. is there a simple step - by - step flashing guide for newbies like me anywhere
3. Do the ROMs provided here enable SDHC for the device. I want to use higher capacity mini SD cards - this is a really important requirement
4. I love the inbuilt GPS and Tom Tom solution - are there any issues with GPS/Tom tom support in the upgrades
Many thanks in advance
Coe
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Hey there, coe62!
I'm not a techie myself, but have just recently flashed my Trinity for the first time to WM6, so most of your questions were mine also. Here:
1. yes. From what I understood, also protects your device from a bad flash helping you recovering it (as far as I know, there are three of them: OliPro's HardSPL 1.30, OliPro's HardSPL 1.20 and Des' Crash Proof SPL)
2. http://www.trinityguides.info (thanks to racerx_)
3. some of the do, some of them don't, check here for details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1635483&postcount=5
4. using iGo, so I can't tell!
Best of luck!

iGo
hi tnyynt,
i've seen u are using iGo, and also seen the small flag in the corner....so let me say first "salutari". as i'm new user of a trinity and have the german wm5 (my german sucks), i will flash it to wm6 english but i don't know if iGo is working with wm6. is it iGo os dependant?
thks!

mardare said:
hi tnyynt,
i've seen u are using iGo, and also seen the small flag in the corner....so let me say first "salutari". as i'm new user of a trinity and have the german wm5 (my german sucks), i will flash it to wm6 english but i don't know if iGo is working with wm6. is it iGo os dependant?
thks!
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Hey there!
YES, iGo works very well on both WM5 and WM6. I had it with the stock WM5 and now using it with a cooked WM6, it works great on both operating systems.
Noroc!

hi there
Am as a newbie as well, lately i've been tried flashing pretty man ROMS over Trinity Windows Mobile Section 6, and find out some ROMs are really good, smoothness, fast and damn good performance, or you can try Mary(latest ROMs). Personally, after trying cooked ROMs, i found Only _AX3L_WM6_WWE_v3.1.2c FULL & LITE (25-10-07)
This ROM is simply an edited version of the Official DOPOD's ROM (lastest released version!) for the Trinity work on my DopdD810, what i mean is with this ROM i can get connected with Internet, but rest of other ROMS don't, i've no idea Why, i am from Hong Kong, somebody has idea due to connection to the internet??
Ok, due to my bad understanding which SDHC would be most suited for my device? As i read about
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1635483&postcount=5
for ROMs flashing i follow the instructions, so far without serious errors happened, i'd to thank all of you, no matter newbies, seniors, moderators...

hi!
that's great, thanks. hopefuly i'll have time in week-end to play around and flash it!
numai bine!

Well i use this thread to post some of my questions...
i get my p3600 tomorrow and i'm very excited, so i want to flash the WM6 from bepe.
1. is there any way to backup the factory-flashed rom?
2. do i lose the warranty if i flash the device? is there a workaround?
3. I've read a few threads but i cant get an idea whats this hard spl for?
4. is it possible to reset the p3600 to factory default so may i can get warranty if somethings fails?
thanks for the replies..

Hi guys,
I want to upgrade my phone to one the WM6 roms available in here.
I just wanted to ask will the sms / email / mms settings stay once the new ROM has been flashed.
If not where can i find them to write them down.
Thanks in advance.

no, they will be erased...
take a look at the trinity upgrade guide on trinityguides.info which will take you step by step through flashing your ROM (backup, hard spl, flash ROM, restore, etc)

Erase the ROM before installing?
I heard it's better to erase the ROM before installing a new one.
A kind of a 'super' eraser to clean deply the ROM. Have you heard of any of such a program/utility?
Thanks

connetion problems
hi
i tried to get all steps like on trinityguides.info but always the same sh....
ERROR[260] : CONNECTION
1.the USB cable IS connected to PDA
2.also at hte PC
sync is done and i get always the same, doesn´t mater what i try
- HardSPL
- ROM flash
has anyone an idea? i just want to have a german wm6 on my 3600. later on a can install TT on the "normal" way.
thx for any help

CID and SIM unlock

i have just bought one. Can anyone unlock it?
i want to up new rom and unlock my jade so please help
thanks anyway

any body can answer me this problem.

There is no way to CID / SIM unlock the phone currently, no HARDSPL or any way to flash cooked roms either.
This may change in the future but for now we have to wait.

hic hic so boring, still waiting....
i hope no longer we will find the way to unlock this ppc
it is very powerful, strong cpu but the store only 98,8mb.

This is not enough fot you? Only few programs must be installed on device, others can be on SD card. But with cooked ROM about 150MB can be free. I hope, somebody make HardSPL for this great PPC. Cruise is large and Diamond is ****...

so, any chance for cid & sim unlock?

Hi guys
just want to add to those voices on the need for the HARDSPL for this nice device. For those working on the issue - thanks a million! there are many of us waiting for progress! any update would be very welcome!
cheers
xS
Belgium

I also would like to join you. If nessesary can organize some donations eg. money, beer ...

i'm going to buy it tomorrow, and i'm searching allready to unlock it and also to install a new rom. i'm on the way for donation. (much better that to pay some sites )

solution
hi all, donations may go to : http://shorl.com/drejusidejafri
ice tea for cmonex, beer for olipro
hardspl (cid unlock) is here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483465
enjoy!! and, donations are always much appreciated

please can you help me? the vodafone service change my old jade for a new one and now to try to install hard spl 2.32 a message say me that it's not for comercial use.
there is another way to flash cooked roms? thanks

cc120689 said:
please can you help me? the vodafone service change my old jade for a new one and now to try to install hard spl 2.32 a message say me that it's not for comercial use.
there is another way to flash cooked roms? thanks
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You should have asked in the Hard SPL thread, because cmonex follows that AFAIK. If you PM her, she'll have a look at this for you.
Dave

Help camera doesnt work

Hi im from mexico(my english sucks) and i have an atyt tilt i unlocked to can use in my country but since i unlocked the camera doesnt works ,when i open the camera app i can see all the menu and options but is just black i mean you cant take pictures because all is black anyone know what can be?
The info of the bootloader or whatever is.
Security Unlocked
KAISI*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8
And system info.
Rom version. 3.57.502.2WWE
Radio version. 1.70.OliNex
Protocol version. 25.65.30.04H
Is there any chance that the camera and other functions works even if the tilt is unlocked
PD. I unlocked the tilt with the KaiserUnlocker.exe
Thanks

tryambaka said:
Hi im from mexico(my english sucks) and i have an atyt tilt i unlocked to can use in my country but since i unlocked the camera doesnt works ,when i open the camera app i can see all the menu and options but is just black i mean you cant take pictures because all is black anyone know what can be?
The info of the bootloader or whatever is.
Security Unlocked
KAISI*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8
And system info.
Rom version. 3.57.502.2WWE
Radio version. 1.70.OliNex
Protocol version. 25.65.30.04H
Is there any chance that the camera and other functions works even if the tilt is unlocked
PD. I unlocked the tilt with the KaiserUnlocker.exe
Thanks
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Its your radio! Go here and flash another radio! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182 If you have anymore questions let us know!

Wrong components wont fit together correctly
Cal-El said:
Its your radio! Go here and flash another radio! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182 If you have anymore questions let us know!
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Not only the radio (although I've not seen that version before) but more importantly the version of hardSPL used is for WinMo 6.0 and NOT WinMo 6.1 ROMs. A ROM that starts with 3. something is a WM 6.1 ROM. Altogether a real hotchpotch mixture. The OP needs to carefully check to make sure all the ingredients match up if the recipe is to succeed! Just realised it's the OPs first post so he or she may want to read the wiki (the link near the top of the page) about all of this stuff to get the gist before taking any further steps.

Flying Kiwi said:
Not only the radio (although I've not seen that version before) but more importantly the version of hardSPL used is for WinMo 6.0 and NOT WinMo 6.1 ROMs. A ROM that starts with 3. something is a WM 6.1 ROM. Altogether a real hotchpotch mixture. The OP needs to carefully check to make sure all the ingredients match up if the recipe is to succeed! Just realised it's the OPs first post so he or she may want to read the wiki (the link near the top of the page) about all of this stuff to get the gist before taking any further steps.
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Well now im confused my titl have windows mobile 6.1 and i unloked with the kaiserunlocker and i thinkk ive read thatit can be used on 6.1 sooo anyway how i can get the phone unlocked and all functional??? i need to change the rom or radio or what i need to do ?? thanx

tryambaka said:
how i can get the phone unlocked and all functional??? i need to change the rom or radio or what i need to do ?? thanx
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Please read all of the wiki for the Kaiser and all the information about which ROMs and Radios go together (links in the Kaiser wiki). Also read up about SPLs and then get back with which specific questions you have that aren't already covered. No one is going to hold the hand of newcommers who haven't fully researched things first. A hint is that the hardSPL versions starting with 3.something are for WM 6.1 ROMs whereas hardSPL versions starting with 1.something are for WM 6.0.

Hi Flying Kiwi
I guess we are or were all noobs at one point and everyone should read and research problems before asking questions. However sometime even when you research and dig through the vast volumes of info you still need a little help. All this info can be a little intimidating especially when you are new to the process. then to get an answer that (No one is going to hold the hand of new commers who haven't fully researched things first.) Well that could even make that person a little more intimidated the next time he/she has a question.
I have been lurking arouind here for a while reading and digging for info on different roms, radios, themes. I have flashed a few roms now and still have questions but am not sure I should ask them because some where in this massive web site there might be a wiki I might have missed, and I too will become one of those noobs who get chastised by a senior member for not doing enough research.
I also have a Tilt and have flashed pda ultimate Full v15 Rom date 01/01/08 radio that is recomended by the rom 1.65.24.36. Protocol 25.94.40.06H.
I used HardSPL 3.29 with windows 6.1 I have even downloaded a few fixes for my camera that have not worked, still a black screen. But I am still trying to get it to work. other roms I have tried Duttys and hyperdragon the camera worked, but quit after a while with hyperdragon. More than likely something I did or installed to make it stop showing up on the screen. We are all unsure at some point.
Not looking for someone to hold my hand just looking for help without the frustration of someone who has been doing this for a while and thinks everyone should be as good as they are at thinking through a problem.
Not trying to step on your toes and hope you don't take this the wrong way, I have seen others with the same frustration in their answer.
Regards,
Tim

If i install a 6.5 rom can i revert back to 6.1 htc rom?

Just in case i dont like it or am i stuck with cooked roms thereafter?

Yes, Once installed HardSPL, you can put on any rom you wish,
This means, that you can flash Official Roms (Perhaps to change language) or Cooked Roms, As long HardSPL is on your device, you can reflash any Rom that is built for your device
Since HardSPL cannot be removed by flashing a rom (you can remove it with the removal utility) you don't have to worry about Official or Cooked roms ;-)

Hey!
Thanks for such an informative and quick reply!
I'm just thinking about my warranty etc and also whats the best 6.5 to try whilst i have your help?
Does Dutty not do Tpaz roms?
Cheers
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Yes, Once installed HardSPL, you can put on any rom you wish,
This means, that you can flash Official Roms (Perhaps to change language) or Cooked Roms, As long HardSPL is on your device, you can reflash any Rom that is built for your device
Since HardSPL cannot be removed by flashing a rom (you can remove it with the removal utility) you don't have to worry about Official or Cooked roms ;-)
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W.r.t warranty, if you ever have to send your phone in for repair under warranty, be sure to remove hard SPL with the removal tool first

Thanks mate, whats the 6.5 rom you are running like? is it fast? any benefits?
adesonic said:
W.r.t warranty, if you ever have to send your phone in for repair under warranty, be sure to remove hard SPL with the removal tool first
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Dutty does not work on the Topaz (yet? xD)
I still use a highly (self) customized stock rom,
If you want to use a 6.5 rom I'd recommend Tom's or udK's roms.
And indeed, if you ever need to return your phone, Try to flash a stock rom & remove HardSPL from your device, and you should be ok ;-)

adigraham said:
Thanks mate, whats the 6.5 rom you are running like? is it fast? any benefits?
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I am running Tom Codons' latest 6.5 ROM - Biggest benefit to me is that windows media player appears to have more video codecs than before - I can now play vids that would not play on 6.1.
Toms ROM is genreally fast and bug free and he includes a registry editor for your convenience!

Ok great thanks guys!
As HTC dont supply a stock rom are the original rooms on the wiki mirror the same?

adigraham said:
Ok great thanks guys!
As HTC dont supply a stock rom are the original rooms on the wiki mirror the same?
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The ROM's which names start with RUU... are official ROM's from HTC. The question is if you find the original ROM that is on your TOPAZ right now.
If it is not listed yet, you might not be able to get back to your original status once u flashed a cooked ROM.
A possibility is to dump your original ROM and try to create the files for reflashing it. I never tried by myself, but I see in the threads of "TOPAZ ROM development" that it is not that easy.
At the end it's your decision to accept the risk.

Great thanks!
Well im flashing with Toms 6.5 rom and yeah i have hardspled
Cheers guys!
oh and i have a tomtom 7 version, what sat nav you all preferring? need to get an 'extended' version ideally to play with

I had some voice problems with tomtom, So I use iGo8

what did that cost ya?

Not that much *rolling eye's*
Although tomtom is fine with the fix...

Go with Garmin GMXT just google for the K*y Gen and procedures.

Looks like garmin dont like built in gps? at least not what i tried!

adigraham said:
Looks like garmin dont like built in gps? at least not what i tried!
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Garmin XT is working fine on my Topaz, no problems with the built in GPS.

adigraham said:
Looks like garmin dont like built in gps? at least not what i tried!
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I use Garmin XT - it works flawlessly and I'm very happy with it.
I was previously using Tomtom but had the voice command cut-off problem and the fix available here didn't fix it.

@ Garmin XT users,
I don't know that particular GPS software,
And have 2 questions about it,
1) Does it have Dutch voices?
2) Does it have a Belgium only map?
If you could answer these questions I would be very happy,
Cause iGo8 isn't the best there is either

jeutie said:
@ Garmin XT users,
I don't know that particular GPS software,
And have 2 questions about it,
1) Does it have Dutch voices?
2) Does it have a Belgium only map?
If you could answer these questions I would be very happy,
Cause iGo8 isn't the best there is either
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Yes, the Netherlands is listed in the voice options. I don't think a Belgium only map is available. I have the Europe map with mine.

aww, thats sad, I only use a Belgian map, So I don't need all the others...
Well I'll look into it ;-)
Thanks for your reply!
*edit* It seems like they have Benelux maps... Which is Belgium Netherlands Luxembourg
Lets fire up that search engine x)