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People,
Posted here as I think a lot of the Kaiser community has "upgraded" to the new Diamond.....as I am thinking of doing!
Looking for comments from real users of both devices as to pros and cons of the Diamond over the Kaiser....would you do it again if given the option??
Thanks in advance......
well, i am one of the comunity used Kaiser for long time, never let me down, perfect keyboard.. and now here is Diamond... ) if i compare the both devices, Diamond is the KING now in my eyes, only thing i really missing is the keyboard, but now you don't be afraid put the diamond in to the pocket, because is perfect thin.. and the weight is absolutely perfect, i can't even feel the diamond in my pocket )) the processor is ok, fast, TFL3d is nice, for TOMTOM perfect VGA display, well be honest, if you want new, modern device, with better VGA display, better processor, thin and light devices although without the keyboard, go for it.. that's my opinion.and if u want using this device for SatNav, few documents the 4GIG of storage is enough... ( tomtom, maps UK+IRL and Western europe, few documents, few cabs and still i have about 2GIG free )
sorry for my english
Thanks for the reply...sounds like your pretty happy with the investment.....is the speed genuinely better than the Kaiser?
Happy now
But what's about the battery?
The Kaiser has the better battery life, the keyboard (which I don't miss to be honest) and the sd card slot (which I also don't miss as I only ever had 1 4 Gb card anyway!),
Diamond is more useable I don't get the stylus out much), easier to carry and IMHO looks much bettter.
Look into my signature... Diamond Touch Pro is still missing to have a 3 in a row. The Diamond touch will not belong in ther list for long
I don't use my TYTN II currently, but hell, how many times I told myself if the TytnII could be put in the Diamond Boddy...
Guess it explains enough. My Diamond will not to be kept for a long time , despite the 750 US $ investment.
Dont know if you guys seen/heard of this device as yet, but here are some specs.
My friend jus bought the Omnia and he's tryin to convince me to get one too. While im tryin to prove to him that he made a wrong choice.
Omnia Specs;
56.9x112x12.5mm, 122g, Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional , 32bit Marvell PXA320, 128MiB RAM, 16000MiB ROM, 3.2" 400x240 color transflective TFT display, video out, Proprietary audio jack, GSM850/GSM900/GSM1800/GSM1900/UMTS2100, CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, microSD/microSDHC/TransFlash/SDIO, Proprietary port, Bluetooth, WLAN, GPS, A-GPS, Geotagging, FM radio, accelerometer, 4.9MP camera, AF, flash, secondary camera, 1440mAh removable battery
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1328
It depends on your requirements. Omnia and X1 play in different device classes because the X1 has a slide out keyboard and the Omnia don't. Normally a slide out keyboard has some disadvantages when it comes to device size and weight so people who buy a device with a slide out keyboard usually really want and need it.
Because of this I think these devices do not really match for competition.
Compare the Omnia with the Touch Diamond or the brand new Touch HD.
Compare the X1 with the Touch Pro. (I'd choose the X1 )
Why do you think that your mate made the wrong choice?
P.S.: I've never heard "St Kitts and Nevis" before so I looked it up. This might be one of the smallest countries I've ever seen.
hmm i think you should open this thread again once Touch HD hits the market in the next 2 month
The Omnia is an awesome device, best in the market (today as the X1 hasn't reached UK retail yet). But it does have one (and only 1) Killer Problem.
Wifi
It's wifi performance is terrable and thats why mine is going back.
foo said:
It depends on your requirements. Omnia and X1 play in different device classes because the X1 has a slide out keyboard and the Omnia don't. Normally a slide out keyboard has some disadvantages when it comes to device size and weight so people who buy a device with a slide out keyboard usually really want and need it.
Because of this I think these devices do not really match for competition.
Compare the Omnia with the Touch Diamond or the brand new Touch HD.
Compare the X1 with the Touch Pro. (I'd choose the X1 )
Why do you think that your mate made the wrong choice?
P.S.: I've never heard "St Kitts and Nevis" before so I looked it up. This might be one of the smallest countries I've ever seen.
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Yeh, i know, thats where i was born. I grew up on another small island next to it...St Eustatius. But now livin in the Netherlands.
If Keyboard is critical then look for Xperia or Touch Pro
If Keyboard is optional then compare
If display is critical.
Xperia 800x480 100000 pixels per sq inch, 311 dpi very sharp even small fonts are readable.(web pages)
Omnia 400x240 20000 pixels per sq inch, 146 dpi larger screen not as sharp small fonts har to read. (web pages)
Omnia accelerometer, 5 mp camera,
Xperia standard 3.5 audio jack
Omnia 240 x 400
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Omnia 240 x 400
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Thanks,
The choice
My friend,today i change the xperya,i have omnia,i tested xperia is not ok....omnia is great phone....same tests on this phone is okokok.....its still working,xperia is nice for design,soryy for my inglesi....
Hi guys!
I'm from the Elfin forum and I'm decided to buy a new phone, so I'm confused to choose between XPERIA and Omnia.
After search about both phone specs I was surprised to know that XPERIA is HW 3D capable and that it's almost or fully capable to run M2D 3D, so I'm almost sure to buy a XPERIA phone instead of Omnia.
I would like to know from you (people that really use this phone ) how is the phone on day by day use, with games and emulators, etc in overall aspects.
Sure about your help, thanks a lot!
Are you serious gonna buy a phone because it has manilla 3d?
Ok manilla 3d runs same as on the htc phones.. but this qualcomm cpu aint So good for other 3d purposses like games
If you can get a cheap xperia x1 sure go ahead but dont pay top price for it..
Since most of the xperia's will eventually get cracks or other problems..
you could also look at touch pro 2 it has bigger screen, tv out, g-sensor and 1 row more keys. (altho that one has the same cpu and tp2 is way more expansive)
you could also wait for other phones with the qualcomm snapdragon or nvidia tegra cpu's those 2 should come out soon i guess.
I'm in Brazil guy, on the local providers the most advanced phones are iPhone (isn't a smatphone), HTC Diamond, Omnia and now XPERIA.
I thinked on XPERIA cause the HW 3D and physical qwerty, and after for M2D 3D that's pretty cool interface.
The price for these phones on the Brazil providers it's about $700, are you think it expensive?
You sure, there are phones most capable, with g-sensor, tv-out, larger screen..., but about these I did mention, in your opinion, how is the best?
About the games, how it was?
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Since most of the xperia's will eventually get cracks or other problems..
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No, most will NOT get them.
OP get the Xperia and be happy with your life afterwards (or happier).
Celso Marques said:
I'm in Brazil guy, on the local providers the most advanced phones are iPhone (isn't a smatphone), HTC Diamond, Omnia and now XPERIA.
I thinked on XPERIA cause the HW 3D and physical qwerty, and after for M2D 3D that's pretty cool interface.
The price for these phones on the Brazil providers it's about $700, are you think it expensive?
You sure, there are phones most capable, with g-sensor, tv-out, larger screen..., but about these I did mention, in your opinion, how is the best?
About the games, how it was?
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Yes, that is very expansive. Check ebay. I got mine for $270 in fairly mint condition.
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No, most will NOT get them.
OP get the Xperia and be happy with your life afterwards (or happier).
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Well ok mine didnt get cracks but the screen is going blue when sliding out (after repairs..) (before repairs it went out when sliding open)
So yes .. the phone has weird problems altho not every one will experience these
(yes i know a cable is loose and giving wrong colors but hey.. its a stupid problem because i didnt drop it ..)
Hi guys,
I had checked the ebay and the offers are about $500 for new phones, and $350 for used ones. In fact it's not so different of the prices in Brazil's operators
I readed something about cracks in some devices, but maybe it's a fault in some of first manufactured lot or else bad quality material that was used, that certainly already was changed on new manufactures.
But I want to know about the overall performance, if the device is really fast as the Diamond or Omnia (that are my other options of buy).
In truth, I'm discarding the Diamond because it has no SD slot, so I can't expand its memory.
Considereing the Omnia x XPERIA, I'm loosing a 5 megapixel camera, g-sensor, a little more speed processor and a little more large screen? But on XPERIA I'm getting a physical qwerty that maybe more useful that g-sensor, the 3.2 mp camera that is already more efficient than the 2 megapixel from my Elfin, double RAM and ROM, and the rest I think are equivalent.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=2246&idPhone1=2422
What you can say about the day by day use?
I'm using both the Omnia and Xperia at present, but am prefering the Xperia...
Even though the Omnia has a 5mp camera, the X1 3.2mp is more than sufficent for random pictures, obviously not something you'd take holiday snaps with.
The lack of G-sensor is a blessing, it really annoyed me on the Omnia and usually I turned it off as the screen would change orientation when least expected.
Even though the screen on the X1 looks quite a lot smaller compared to the Omina, the quality is far superior in both touch response, colour and resolution, you can really tell the difference after using the X1 and then going back to the Omnia.
As for speed of use, I'm using the PCTECH WM6.1 custom rom which is amazing. Very responsive, speedy and with NO bugs or crashes I've come across from using for the last 3 weeks. It really does make the Xperia a joy to use.
Using the hardware keyboard is a joy from using the onscreen Omnia keyboard, now I can write so much without typos. My friends now know what I'm trying to say when I text them.
...but there are downsides to the Xperia v Omnia...mainly the sound that comes from the X1's speaker. The speaker quality is awful, the sound is very tinny and quiet. Without tweaking the Xperia to increase the ring volume it's almost unhearable, as for listening to music from it don't even bother, where as the Omnia's speaker quality is very good. It's loud and of great quality.
There also seems to be an issue with video playback on the X1, in that unless you downsize the resolution of the video's it's very choppy, where as the Omina is spot on.
Internet browsing for the X1 is MUCH faster than on my Omnia for some reason too.
Also I like the Xperia as it's more substantial when in your pocket. It's heavier and thicker than the Omnia but at least you know it is in your pocket. A lot of the time I wasn't sure if I'd lost my Omnia from my pocket due to it's slim size and light weight.
It's really what you want out of your phone as to which one to get.
I at present am enjoying the Xperia as my phone of choice rather than the Omnia, it just depends whether the ring tone issue bothers you that much.
Both are great Win Mo phones so either way you're getting a good phone which is highly customizable
I am X1 owner for half a year. The phone is very good regarding functionality and design, however it is rather slow. I am using official R2A firmware, I have read it gets faster with the newest R3A or custom ROMs - haven't tested it. And I must say I cannot compare it to other WM phones since I've never had any. For me it is a very basic requirement to be able to listen to music, have my RSS Reader App open and load a page in Opera and switch between these apps rapidly - the X1 doesn't manage this very well, gets stuck and you have to wait for some time. But as I've said, I don't know about other WM phones and to be honest I don't believe they are so much faster. As for gaming, the X1 is definitely not a gamer's choice. You can play NFS and stuff very well but there aren't so many cool WVGA games. I had big trouble running emulators. PS1 emulator works but with about 2 FPS, GBC emulator is almost well-playable without sound. That's it. If you want a phone for playing games, the X1 is not the right device for you.
from my opinion, xperia is neaerly a year old. x2 is already coming really soon, well, within the next few months then, furthermore, HTC leo is more powerfull, but most probably lacks a hardware keyboard... so... if I were you, i'd wait a few more moments... look around on different websites to see new phone previews etc. etc. and for games... well, maybe you shouldconsider an iphone 3G, wich, is also a year old and may be much cheaper now, but it let's you play games for dayzzzzzzz
it is expensive from ebay,you can by cheap phone from us
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the screen!
dude! dont forget the screen! i cant believe noone mentioned this before!
yea the omnia screen is slightly larger, but the xperia screen has MUCH higher resolution!
omnia is a measly 400x240 while xperia is a whopping 800x480!!
considering screen size/resolution,, the xperia has almost 5 times the res of omnia! pair that with coreplayer and xperia is a hel of alot better to watch movies on!
also the media panel is great, smooth flick scrolling and amazing sound quality add up to a great music device.
go for xperia dude, definitely
although 700 is too much, it goes for 450 now brand new in lebanon.
ehjoy!
Hi guys!
Thanks a lot for all your comments and opinions, it will be very useful for me and will help me to decide.
I'll evaluate all data you provide me, before decide and to buy.
Thanks a lot! Who knows in a very soon future, we'll be all together in a same board
Hey all.
Today, you would be a diamond 1 or HD/Diamond 2 ?
Iv'e heared diamond 1 is slow, and her touch sceen is crap.
Well, depends on how you look at it. Of course the phone can be slow and such, but with minor tweaks to TF3D and to the registry, you can get the phone real smooth. Out of all those you said, I would pick HD because it got a 3,5mm jack and a bigger screen
Dont get a Diamond 1. You'll be investing un old(er) tech. I would get a Diamond 2 or TP2. I'm using a BB Bold at the moment which i prefere to the Diamond.. I'm sticking with RIM untill WinMo 7 comes out natively on devices.
If the previews of the Zune HD are anything to go by then Win Mo 7 will be worth the wait and i'll be ditching RIM in a heartbeat as they just dont have the same quality of software base available possibly due to restrictions of what memory is available to programs whilst there running. But, what they do well is the basics you'd expect of a communications device. Email, phone calls, even the mp3 player is much better sound quality than on my old Diamond
The efforts of the ROM cookers on this forum is excellent and Im sure MS are taking on board comments from web sites like this but a chef is only as good as his ingredients and the ROMs being leaked at the moment are full of bugs.
This is obviously just my own opinion on the subject though
i prefere the diamond 1 its cheaper , cooler , got the look , have a lot of developers here , alot of ROMS , does not have any manufacture problems like the diamond 2 or the pro 2
Aqrab, what manufactues problem are you talking about??
Artieq, iv'e didnt meant about the screen size. iv'e heared its a fingerprint nightmare...and also it have poor battery life.
I can get diamond 1 in 225$, and diamond2/HD in 480- 500$
spikeuk76, what are you talking about ?
"Dont get a Diamond 1. You'll be investing un old(er) tech. I would get a Diamond 2 or TP2. I'm using a BB Bold at the moment which i prefere to the Diamond.. I'm sticking with RIM untill WinMo 7 comes out natively on devices."
What TP2 is ?
BB bold?
RIM?
WINMO 7 ?
Well, now i need to decide between the diamond 2 to the HD. it's a very hard decision
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its cheaper , cooler , got the look , have a lot of developers here , alot of ROMS
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Yeah, that also were the main reasons for me to buy a D1.
D2 has a bigger screen, more RAM, better Cam, microSD card slot and a battery with more capacity. If you need one of these and are willing to invest much more than the D2 is your device.
In my opinion the D1 runs very smooth even with demanding apps. Remember also, D2 has the same chipset.
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Yeah, that also were the main reasons for me to buy a D1.
D2 has a bigger screen, more RAM, better Cam, microSD card slot and a battery with more capacity. If you need one of these and are willing to invest much more than the D2 is your device.
In my opinion the D1 runs very smooth even with demanding apps. Remember also, D2 has the same chipset.
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Hello
I'm gonna make alot of skype calls (wifi) with the device
The device can't replace music player like COWON D2+
Same chipset? what? and the hd have the same also ?
It's not that i need to add alot of money to buy the hd/diamond 2.
I'm afraid the diamond 1 will be slow, fingerprint nightmare, and bad battery.
I think the best for me will be hd/diamond 2.
Well, you are right about the battery life and fingerprints, but the phone itself IS SMOOTH AS SILK (for me).
Well diamond1 is in different level compared to D2 & HD because is a lot cheaper and have less ram and rom.
So between thous two I would go for diamond 2, because it's little smaller than HD, and other specks are the same, except the HD has 3.5 jack & bigger screen.
So it's depends what you like - need, bigger screen 3.5 jack, get HD, I like a little smaller device, that could comfortably fit in my pocket, so I would get D2!
Yeah, its alot cheaper, i can get diamond 1 in 225$, and diamond2/HD in 480- 500$.
But diamond 1 has few bad things that has been fixed in hd and d2, don't you think so?
Anyway, i don't know if i need a big screen. i will mostly use it to make fring (skype) calls, and in 4-6months, i will use the software teamviewer that will be released.
I will not use the device for playing music, because the cowon d2 from what iv'e heared, have better sounds quality.
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Hello
I'm gonna make alot of skype calls (wifi) with the device
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Wifi is an absolute battery drainer. D2 has indeed 200mAh more capacity but also a larger screen. You might wanna go with the D1 HTC 1340mAh "extended battery". Although that one requires another back cover which makes the devices thicker.
efi2222 said:
Same chipset? what? and the hd have the same also ?
It's not that i need to add alot of money to buy the hd/diamond 2.
I'm afraid the diamond 1 will be slow, fingerprint nightmare, and bad battery.
I think the best for me will be hd/diamond 2.
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HD also features the Qualcomm chipset.
From what I and many others can say the D1 runs perfectly smooth - but yes, it is a fingerprint magnet (as will be D2/HD) and its battery is small. I bought a second one but only for heavy usage (eg navigation on the bike). Otherwise it offers me a reasonable lifetime even when listening to music for hrs.
Hey
lol why buy other device when you can just buy an HD/diamond 2
I think i will go over the diamond 2... i will see it in a store and then decide.
thank you.
Hello all,
I have a lot of Problems with this VPA. Now it makes all, but not what I want. After a start it runs fine, but after a Hour it makes silly things.
I will now try a lite Rom or anything else.
Thanks a lot to all hard Workers on custom Roms
today i sold my diamond. thx foe god...i just wanna thx to all xda members who helped me modding and ypgrading..but after i saw the iphone, tired that famous multi touch...i just sicked and tired of changin roms, etc...
hope one day when winmo will have multi touch, changable rongtones and such litle things i will back to htc devices...
cheers...
Can't comment on multi-touch, but pretty sure every Windows mobile device I've had since my first Magician has supported changing ringtones, in fact I actually found the adding of ringtones to be more hassle on the iPhone than it ever was on any of my Win devices. (I recently sold my iPhone 3G in favour of getting a new Windows Mobile device)
Just been offered the Diamond for free on a £20/month contract, so seriously considering going for that unless something else is available
I've been offered a Diamond 2 for pretty cheap and I was wondering what the guys thought about updating?
is it really worth the expense for a removable card and a little bigger screen...or is there more to it?
Is this all there is?
what do you think?
Thanks
mike
The Diamond 2 offers two main advantages:
1. style. It has a bigger screen, and looks better. This is ofcourse depending on your own taste
2. Software. The Diamond 2 has, in my opinion, a much better touchflo interface.
Ofcourse 1 can only be achieved by buying the device. But 2 can also be achieved by a custom ROM. I personally use Gen.Y's D2 ROM. It basically just the diamond rom with the diamond 2 interface installed: very nice. If you want to update read this for a guide. Also wait a few days, Gen.Y will release R5.1 on january 5.
He also makes roms based on the new HTC HD2 Sense interface: Gen.Y's D2X ROM. I've tried it: its definitly a nice interface upgrade but it's kind of laggy on the diamond and uses more RAM. If you want it you should buy a real HD2: it's hardware is very good and reviews say it's super-fast (it has a 1Ghz CPU as opposed to the +-500Mhz of the Diamond, Diamond2 etc.).
To round up: I wouldn't do it, just install a custom rom for the new interface and save the money for a real upgrade, like the HD2.
Thanks for the thoughts, i originally got the TD cos of it's size to power ratio, i recn that the HD/2 is pushing the size thing for me.
I can put the TD in an aluminium belt case and it's not really in the way. the HD may be thou....I need to do more homework first
I have a diamond1, my hubby has a diamond2, and as i really like the looks and size of diamond1 alot more, i also have to admit that the diamond2 is a much more up to date device, it's way faster (processor), has no storage limitations (card slot) and is alot less damage sensitive (diamond1 screen is full of scratches).
Yes, the diamond2 is bigger, but the bigger screen really has advantages (surfing, calender use, input etc..) and i must admit too that TF3D works alot smoother outta the box with diamond2.
Tx to this site i managed to upgrade my diamond1 to a higher standard so it still suits my needs, but i keep bumping in to memory problems (RAM and storage) every now and then, where the diamond2 has no problems at all.
Diamond2 runs even smoother with the newer cooked ROMS (even the ones with all the Leo stuff in it).
I would definitaly choose the diamond2 above the diamond1, but plz don't tell my hubby
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I have a diamond1, my hubby has a diamond2, and as i really like the looks and size of diamond1 alot more, i also have to admit that the diamond2 is a much more up to date device, it's way faster (processor), has no storage limitations (card slot) and is alot less damage sensitive
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The processor of the diamond2 and diamond is 100% the same... The only speed differences can be because of the RAM or interface...
The card slot I'll give you, but speed? A diamond with a basic stripped rom and manilla 2.1 is at least as fast as a stock diamond2, if not faster.
I prefer Diamond II than Diamond I which has
+ Better battery
+ Expansion card slot
+ Bigger screen
+ Reservered ( I haven't got it yet )
I'll take Diamond II when I have chance.
hmmm.....can i justify the expense it's in really good nic and my beloved 3700 is looking a bit worse for wear ...
I love my Diamond but it has it's disadvantages like a shortage of RAM, although the Diamond II does have more RAM it wouldn't make sense for me personally to upgrade to a Diamond II (both have basically the same hardware). I'm due for an upgrade next week and thought that it would be best to upgrade to the Touch HD2 but since it's not available in my country yet I opted to go for the Touch Pro 2 since it has some nice features that the Diamond II does not have... and offcourse a nice big slide out keyboard! The fact that the Diamond II has a 5mp camera and the Touch Pro 2 only a 3.2mp one doesn't matter much to me as well since I barely use it in any case.
It's difficult to add more to what has already been said for the advantages of the Diamond 2 over the Diamond 1.
Recap:
• way better camera
• way better screen
• way better memory (Ram & Rom)
• better battery consumption
• better construction build
• despite the CPU's are identical in specs. Diamond 2 CPU is been rated faster then original diamond
Bonus:
• if you have a great price it's a no brainier as the original Diamond can only compete if lighter weight and smaller size was a priority.
If it had a 3.5mm Jack, heck I think I would trade in my HD for it....
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The processor of the diamond2 and diamond is 100% the same... The only speed differences can be because of the RAM or interface...
The card slot I'll give you, but speed? A diamond with a basic stripped rom and manilla 2.1 is at least as fast as a stock diamond2, if not faster.
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You're right, i didn't know the processor was the same (only different last digit in specs and rated just a tinytiny bit faster), and i'm comparing them running both on WM6.5 with Sense 2.5, that's not fair towards the good ol' diamond1
I've been thinking about what to upgrade to myself actually. I'm not really willing to pay for a phone offline- so have to restrict myself to the upgrade options available on T-Mobile UK.
The obvious choice would be the HD2 but just thinking it is just that too big, especially going from a Diamond (?)
I dont see the Vario V (HTC Rhodium/TP2) on T-Mobile UK site, anyone if they still do it?
I agree with others that the Diamond2 probably wouldnt be worth it. Saying that, if the price you are getting it at is really cheap then it could be an option; you could always sell off your Diamond. But I'm definitely not about to 'waste' my upgrade on the Diamond2
With the latest ROMs around at the moment, the Diamond barely manages to cope (WM 6.5.x with Sense 2.5 for example).
dtechnology is correct
its just down to personal choice to be fair