htc task manager kills programs - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

i know there are threads related to this already. and i have searched high and low but nothing has worked for me.
i am currently using this rom - 6.1 WWE ROM shifu V08 M2D|RAM 101|LZX|D3D|Full
its great and works nice but seems to have the same problem with the task manager killing programs.
i have tried the registry tweak and advanced config tool to disable the autokill function and to try and also make it only free memory when there is 1mb left. but it still does it regardless.
if the htc task manager shows 50-60% used memory, and i run a buncha programs like, skype, ie, calc, google maps, etc. it'll show up as approx 70-80% usage, but still kills old programs not in current view!
this is driving me nuts. cus it feels like i have 30% more usage left in my device's ram but that either windows or the htc task manager wont ever let me use...
biggest issue with this is that manila will "sometimes" also be closed. or when switching between programs like tomtom and contacts or calendar. i wanna get info from one program and then go back into another program to paste it or type it, by the time i get there its closed! annoying crap lol

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Making Wizard run faster

Is there anyway to, as they say 'overclock' the wizard. It's a great PPC/phone, but runs quite slow. Thanks. [/b]
try the search button. use querry "omap"
The utility in this thread is what you need: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=55782
It works on the Wizard, Charmer and Prophet. After installing you should find that you can run your device at 260Mhz rather than the factory set 195. 8)
Was able to download the battery-plug-in software. didn't damage anything on my wizard, but am not realy sure if it increased the speed or not. stil seems mighty slow.
You'll find this by searching too, scattered about. Programs like SPB Diary, SPB Pocket Plus make the Wizard sluggish even when you've overclocked. I learned the hard way to be very choosy about programs that run automatically. Today agenda, SPB weather, PHM Traylaunch and Batterystatus are the only things on my today screen. Smartskey insures that practically nothing is running in the background. I have the latest rom, and I used Xelencin's version (now my own version) so that I have much more space on the device. The effect of all this is that my device is very snappy, except when it decides it needs to talk with the network at length and a good 15 seconds can go by while it does something with the network. Then it just doesn't do anything for 15 seconds, which seems like an eternity when you are about to show someone something, need to check an address or phone number, etc. But 90% of my complaints went away when I eliminated automatic programs, many of which I'd spent money on. It isn't that these programs don't offer functionality, they do, but most of that functionality is also offered by programs that have a smaller footprint.
You'll find this by searching too, scattered about. Programs like SPB Diary, SPB Pocket Plus make the Wizard sluggish even when you've overclocked. I learned the hard way to be very choosy about programs that run automatically. Today agenda, SPB weather, PHM Traylaunch and Batterystatus are the only things on my today screen. Smartskey insures that practically nothing is running in the background. I have the latest rom, and I used Xelencin's version (now my own version) so that I have much more space on the device. The effect of all this is that my device is very snappy, except when it decides it needs to talk with the network at length and a good 15 seconds can go by while it does something with the network. Then it just doesn't do anything for 15 seconds, which seems like an eternity when you are about to show someone something, need to check an address or phone number, etc. But 90% of my complaints went away when I eliminated automatic programs, many of which I'd spent money on. It isn't that these programs don't offer functionality, they do, but most of that functionality is also offered by programs that have a smaller footprint.
I like SPB Diary and Pocket Plus though. Between the larger cache trick and OCing it with battery status, the speed is fine for me. It was a mite too slow without the OC.
After using it for a little less than half a day, I do feel that there is some improvement in terms of speed. However, it still pales in comparison with the xda mini which I used to use. Is this the maximum speed that the wizard can process?
omapclock
Do you have omap running? I run mine at 247MHz but some people are running as high as 260 and report stability.
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prestonmcafee said:
Do you have omap running? I run mine at 247MHz but some people are running as high as 260 and report stability.
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Yes - 260Mhz is just fine. 8)
I use omapclock and clock to 264 MHz with it, rock solid at that speed, but higher speeds are no go. The battery plugin shows 286 MHz when omapclock says 264 though
Yeah, have mine running at 260mhz, but don't see much improvement still. Am i doing something wrong? I copied the cab file into the main memory (but not directly into the windows folder), then executed it.
Yeah, have mine running at 260mhz, but don't see much improvement still. Am i doing something wrong? I copied the cab file into the main memory (but not directly into the windows folder), then executed it.
How do you know it is at 260?
If you use batterystatus, you can toggle back and forth from 260 to 195. That way you know if it is running and how fast. It doesn't need to be in Windows; mine is in My Documents/Programs. But it needs to be turned on; it is off by default even if installed, which is why I asked.

Kaiser getting slugish

It seems to me that my Kaiser is getting a bit slugish, like when bringing up the dialer or taking photos. Do I need memmaid or something similar? Is there an easyer (and free!) way to tweak or check what's hogging the memory?
It seems slow after fresh boot up and I set the phone to close apps rather than hide them. Its running WM6 stock HTC ROM out of the box.
Thanks.
James
I would recommend you search the forums for a couple of programs which can help you identify your problem.
Advanced Config - This can tweak your kaiser and allow you to turn options off you may not use anyway.
Task Manager - This operates in the same way as a windows task manager, you can see what processes are running and what % of memory they are using.
Also, i would recommend Kaisertweak - which is similar to Advanced Config but i think it goes into a bit more detail, and that was developed by someone on this forum (credit to them, but i cant remember their name)
Hope this helps you
Sean Saunders

[Q] Restore memory?

Does anyone have / know of a way to restore the program memory back to it's original state without having to soft-reset? I've tried Memaid, Oxios Hibernate, SKTools, etc, etc...
Anyone who has used a Diamond for more than a day will know that program memory just disappears, even after killing all applications and running one of the apps mentioned, it just won't come back! I've discovered some ROM's are better than others, but none of them are what I'd call 'reasonable' at memory managing.
Where does it go to, and why is a soft-reset needed to get all available program memory back? Any development wizzes got an idea on this?
I'm using ipaq 6818 with nhocbanme cooked rom. he was added a software called FREE MEM to OEM but it's only able to recover some of missing memory. Normal memory after soft reset 28 - 30mb. after several times use for activities it'll drop to 17 - 23mb which all app has been killed via task manager. after do free mem it's only recover about 1.5mb and couldn't totally recover like first time after soft reset. but it's Ok for me since this nhocbanme cooked rom is very fast and very very stable for my ipaq 6818. the minus is this rom looks very dark. if u are not change the folders icon
It seems that WM is bad at managing memory and lets a number of bad programs take up space after closing. Opera seems to be one of the worst culprits; I wish we had a better browser for the Diamond.
NoTSR helps sometimes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446928
I rarely use it, prefering to soft reset often.
Davey101 said:
It seems that WM is bad at managing memory and lets a number of bad programs take up space after closing. Opera seems to be one of the worst culprits; I wish we had a better browser for the Diamond. QUOTE]
... yes, you're right. Opera seems very 'memory hungry' - can't understand why memory management apps can't release the memory afterwards though. Probably something to do with Microsoft - as usual!!
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Free Up Memory

Hello to all. Sorry for my noobitity that will follow
On the screen of Raphael, on the upper right corner there is an arrow pointing down. There when i press it it says a number%, which i assume is the memory used. Now i want a program so when i free up memory that number will go down. Cause i have from SKTOOLS, Free Up Memory, though when i free the memory that number doesn't change at all. So i don't know if it works or not.
(usually it's 53%)
Sorry if i have posted in the wrong section.
Well, you've got a few choices. You can kill processes with a task manager (like dotFred's Task Manager) to free up some memory. Killing cprog.exe will save ~10 MB of ram, but then again, you won't be making phone calls again until you do a soft reset (not bad on an airplane, though). You can only do so much by killing processes. You can turn off Touchflo 3D in Setting-Today. This will save you maybe 6-8% of RAM usage. But, you'll have to live with the Today screen and not TF3D (or, check out Touchflo Detacher in this forum, it works real well). You can remove your bloatware by doing a hard reset and skipping customization. This will save a decent amount of RAM. Finally, you can flash a custom ROM. Most custom ROMs run at ~30-35% RAM usage with TF3D running.
You might look up cleanRAM in the Diamond themes forum. It works better than any other memory aid I've tried (SKTools and Clear Temp).
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention, i have a custom ROM (it's Romeos 1.95.4 by monx). Tough with his previous versions i was at 35%, now i am higher, without changing my installed programs. The issue is that even when i was at 35%,, after using programs it went up to 45% and then when i used free up ram it still said 45%, instead of 35%.
ckyam said:
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention, i have a custom ROM (it's Romeos 1.95.4 by monx). Tough with his previous versions i was at 35%, now i am higher, without changing my installed programs. The issue is that even when i was at 35%,, after using programs it went up to 45% and then when i used free up ram it still said 45%, instead of 35%.
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It sounds like you're minimizing and not killing programs when you close them. Change it so that hitting X kills programs under Settings-Button on the task manager (hit the quick menu arrow and then the wrench icon). And give cleanRAM a shot. It has a very nice custom list that allows you to kill processes that don't stop all the time, like active sync, pword, HTCAlbum.exe and Quickqps.exe. It clears up a lot of memory quickly and reliably. You don't need to soft reset very much when you use it.
Dear Farmer_Ted i have the X to close the programs already. I have also installed the cleanram. Active sync is not running on processes under a name like active_sync or wcescomm (unless it has another name) but i see it in the tasks tab. How can that be possible? not running as a process and running at tasks tab (all tab reffering to task manager)?
After running cleanram i have in use 98MB of Ram.. Is this a good number?
Well, in the processes active sync is called repllog, or something like that. It doesn't take up all that much memory, anyway (maybe 300 KB).
Does that ROM have TP2 manila? That may be your issue. It uses a ton of memory. There's not a whole lot you can do about it.
Yes its repplog you are correct...I can understand though, i've used EliasSyncKiller and SKtools,Notifications Tools, to disable repplog, but it still runs...hm...
Anyway yes the Rom prolly is "heavy..Even a clean install in the best pagepool gave a 38% (tired 0,4,8,12)
Thanks for your help though Farmer_Ted. Btw could you give me a link of a rom ur using/suggesting that is fast loading windows/uses little memory/runs programs fast/stable

D2 high RAM usage..

I've been trying to find something about the subject but no luck so I'm posting it here.
I'm not sure if it's just a case of my D2 but the RAM consumption is extremely high. After about 48hrs since the last soft reset, with no application running, the RAM consumtion is whopping 74%!?!?! Reading from the windows Memory card is saying: Program: Total 183.73MB, In use 134.71, Free 49.02MB. Out of supposed 288MB of RAM on D2 this looks quite scary to me, I'm experiencing slowdowns of the system when I'm switching between Opera, Mail, ocassional phone call and Contacts. I hope my D2 is not faulty, but I'd like to hear from you guys if this is a common thing or a problem with my D2. I compared with my colleague's Touch Pro and he's never nowhere near these figures, he gets max to 50%, if that.
Any help is appreciated.
yeah, she's a leaker. I'm sure your device is fine. I think Opera chews up a lot. I notice bigger drops after using Opera.
Have you tried using CleanRam? You'll be pleased with its performance. I usually run it once a day or so and it keeps the memory 50% or lower.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-cleanram.html
The Single biggest thing you can do to speed up your TD2 and release a lot of that RAM is to switch off TF3D. It's a much better phone without it in so many ways.
WMguy said:
yeah, she's a leaker. I'm sure your device is fine. I think Opera chews up a lot. I notice bigger drops after using Opera.
Have you tried using CleanRam? You'll be pleased with its performance. I usually run it once a day or so and it keeps the memory 50% or lower.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-cleanram.html
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this one worked for me..sktools seems dont have enough privilege to kill some exclusive task. One main culprit is opera running in the background all the time..
I have been worried about what I thought was very high memory usage since I've had my TD2. Mine seems to settle at about 75%.
I have also noticed this drops to about 55% with TF3D turned off. As I like the TF3D interface a lot I'm not willing to lose it for the memory gains. I have tried running memory intensive apps like TomTom with TF3D on and off and there doesn't seem to be any significant difference.
I have been using Oxios CloseApps to free up memory. This work pretty well, but I'm going to give CleanRam a go, and see how it compares.
WMguy said:
yeah, she's a leaker. I'm sure your device is fine. I think Opera chews up a lot. I notice bigger drops after using Opera.
Have you tried using CleanRam? You'll be pleased with its performance. I usually run it once a day or so and it keeps the memory 50% or lower.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-cleanram.html
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Many thanks, buddy, the app works a treat! D2 still manages to get to 75% of memory usage after a day or so but at least I don't have to restart to get to down 60%. It is still weird though, 75% of RAM constantly in use without an intervention - is this the way it was designed or just a poorly tuned ROM?
My TD2 stick %64-65 level after one week usage without soft reset .. Even with TF3D
Daily used programs are;
Opera *****
Youtube ***
Chronos alarm * (3 alarm set for morning.. also chrono and timer sometimes..)
iGO8 *
Resco File explorer *
Resco Photo Viewer *
GS Finder *
Pocket Music ***
Pocket Player * (for mono bluetooth headset music transfer at gym )
Core Player ***
Mobibook **
Several games **
* Stars indicate usage frequency for daily usage...
...but i'm upgrade my 1.39 stock rom to new asia 1.40... Before upgrade, it's like yours %75 memory usage or above.. 1.40 rom seems reduce memory consumption..
cassper1 said:
Many thanks, buddy, the app works a treat! D2 still manages to get to 75% of memory usage after a day or so but at least I don't have to restart to get to down 60%. It is still weird though, 75% of RAM constantly in use without an intervention - is this the way it was designed or just a poorly tuned ROM?
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Well interesting...my HTC Raphael never goes over 55% and have similar apps in use as you do...
Mine usually is around 55%-60%.
Can I ask how you close opera? Do you just hit the x or do you exit from the menue. i have noticed that when I exit through the menue the ram percent drops significantly. I also saw an increase in batterey when I started exiting through the menue and not the x button.
Rexton270 said:
Well interesting...my HTC Raphael never goes over 55% and have similar apps in use as you do...
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I already mentioned that in the very first post.. My colleague's Rafael rarely gets over 50%, that's why I started to wonder if there's something wrong with my Topaz
Compared to the Raphael, the TD2 has more memory consuming apps, such as having the Enhanced TF3D with much more functions including the new start menu, new contacts center, new notifications & a higher resolution screen to name a few.
Don't worry about it
Free memory is wasted memory.
Your device should be using all the memory it can to cache all that it can and keep as many of your applications running as possible. That's how your device can switch between apps quickly. If you start another app which requires more memory than is currently available, WM will close one of the least used applications to make room. Until you start that second app, there's no point at all in closing the first one just so that the free/unused/wasted memory figure is increased. Symbian devices have had this behaviour for years and in fact it's been in place in WM for quite a few versions. Glad to hear that HTC's TF3D is making better use of it.
As it happens, Vista now adopts this policy, compared to previous desktop Windows versions: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000688.html.
HTC Touch Freak said:
i have noticed that when I exit through the menue the ram percent drops significantly. I also saw an increase in batterey when I started exiting through the menue and not the x button.
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This is the ticket with Opera at least. I noticed today that if you tap the X button, it will disappear from the HTC Task Manager so you think it's closed. However, I have SPB Mobile Shell 3.0 and also use its built in task manager assigned to one of my hard buttons. When the HTC TM shows no Opera running, I bring up the SPB one and sure enough it's still running. I wonder if HTC makes an exception to Opera due to the push internet feature so it doesn't appear in the Task Manager.
So, in other words, if you want to close Opera, use the 'Exit' command within the program.
*Any* program can make itself disappear from the user-facing Task List simply by declaring itself as a background task. My own D2 right now is running 14 of these background tasks, including Opera. Think of it like the difference between the "Applications" and "Processes" tabs in the regular Windows Task Manager. It's been suggested that Opera runs all the time to manage the Push Internet pages, although as I've said in an earlier post, there's nothing wrong in it staying around (so long as it's not consuming much CPU/battery), so that it's ready to be pushed to the front immediately when the user requires it.
You can make those "Back Ground" applications appear in the HTC Task Manager by deleting (or renaming) their names in the following registry:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\TaskManager\ExclusiveList\System\

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