[Project] Blackstone-Android Project - Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development

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ok, nice that anyone has picked up the project, but some more information would have been nice

Yes, I am very happy that work has resumed but it would be nice to have some form of roadmap in terms of what you are trying to achieve like the hardware zoom thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=515701
thanks again for taking the time to do this. Im free for any beta testing

ASK768 said:
Yes, I am very happy that work has resumed but it would be nice to have some form of roadmap in terms of what you are trying to achieve like the hardware zoom thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=515701
thanks again for taking the time to do this. Im free for any beta testing
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Ya it's a very nice idea. I will add roadmap very soon.

BigDaemon said:
ok, nice that anyone has picked up the project, but some more information would have been nice
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Give me some time i will fill all the details in first post.

Nice to see someone is still working on this. I have been following the development since it was started, and would really like to help. However my programming skills are litterally non-existent, so probably not much I can do apart from cheeering you on? beta testing? let me know..
Cheers

Finally,
Some people like myself too, were hoping in that. A full working version of android on the touch HD...Good luck...and post your results...we would be really pleased to test...

tuxhero - Your the man
Hi tuxhero,
Touch HD is a very good device, but windows is not a good SO.
We all know windows, slow, always crashing...lost os bugs...
Android in Touch HD would be real great.
I'm available to do developments, testing, anything.
Try to describe really well, provide helpful link....you know info that can help...
I'm joining this TEAM TUXHERO ANDROID BLACKSTONE
It seams that at least now things are going on the right track, we have people working.
See you my friend...You are the man!!!

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Touch HD is a very good device, but windows is not a good SO.
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Why is Windows not a good OS? I'm not a fan at all, but such statements are simply not true. Furthermore you should consider that Windows has nothing to do with Windows Mobile ...
ataide26 said:
We all know windows, slow, always crashing...lost os bugs...
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Mine isn't crashing that often, isn't slow and I haven't noticed any bug so far.
Just to make it clear: I don't want to hamper the development. In fact I would love to see an alternative to Windows Mobile, but saying things like above aren't the right motivation!

Windows Mobile - even in 6.5 version is good couple years behind functionality of Android or Iphone OS. It was build for PDAs or Pocket PC and it was working perfectly fine for those devices.
BUT for HTC Blackstone - it is not suitable, yes TouchFlo is making this beautiful phone usable, but its only thanks to it one can appreciate it's functionality.
That is why I would LOVE to see Android working on Blackstone.
So thank you for trying. I will be among the first people that will test it whenever you will make it available. [I am just a phone user/gadget lover - so can't help more than that]

ataide26 said:
Hi tuxhero,
Touch HD is a very good device, but windows is not a good SO.
We all know windows, slow, always crashing...lost os bugs...
Android in Touch HD would be real great.
I'm available to do developments, testing, anything.
Try to describe really well, provide helpful link....you know info that can help...
I'm joining this TEAM TUXHERO ANDROID BLACKSTONE
It seams that at least now things are going on the right track, we have people working.
See you my friend...You are the man!!!
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I don't think that WM is a bad OS.
Ok, the shipped ROM of my HD was... omg it was horrible.
But when I look at the actually cooked ROMs, they are very fast and stable.
There smoothnes is almost as good as the Iphone's one.
I think all OS's has there positive and negative aspects:
WM is not the userfriendliest, but fully customizeable!
Iphone OS is very userfriendly, but its customizeable like a Gameboy (Customizeable don't means installing different programms)
Android is an alternative to both OS. Userfriendly and customizeable. So if anyone isn't that happy with WM, Android is an good alternative.
I would support this project with all I'm able to.
Greets

Thankyou for your support but please limit this thread to Android Porting only don't use it for other stuff.

tuxhero said:
Thankyou for your support but please limit this thread to Android Porting only don't use it for other stuff.
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Some kind of sum up would be nice, I guess its too hard to get involved by reading the whole "old" thread ...

Funny
I bet this thread is going to nowhere. Mr. starter will disappear in a day or two.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3938291&postcount=18 - good excuse
I'm sorry, of course, for bringing that to the public.

Is it possible to extract the kernel from the HTC Magic ROM and test it on our Blackstone?

ddhb said:
Is it possible to extract the kernel from the HTC Magic ROM and test it on our Blackstone?
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It is possible but you don't need to extract it we already had source code so we can compile it. But the problem is blackstone is not designed to run Android
that changes lot of things. Now our task is to find what we need to change n change it.

So you said that you are using the android-msm and not the htc-msn kernel for now.
What kernel did xmoo and obus(?? not sure about the name ^^) use? The htc-msm?
Is the android kernel as good as working as the version from obus/xmoo, or is it working better in the moment?
Sry for my english *g*

Related

wm 6.5

Latest wm 6.5 build that was used at MWC http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=740958#post740958
Yeah, now what?
antmagpie said:
Latest wm 6.5 build that was used at MWC http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=740958#post740958
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Its for QVGA & VGA Devices
no problem, got it running allready
Itje is it running good? any bugs?
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Itje is it running good? any bugs?
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alot is better, but scrolling is still slow, I just started work on it, so I will try some stuff before I know more. I just flashed as is.
itje: can u pleas make rom of it and upload it, if u need ftp server to upload it on thel my i can fix ftp serv,
itje... you rock dude... period.
itje, you are COOL !!!
damn itje! you're the quickest dude here on the forums!
Do you even sleep or eat??
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damn itje! you're the quickest dude here on the forums!
Do you even sleep or eat??
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my guess is he eats microSDHC cards for breakfast...
Just an educated guess tho
I think itje do more job in one week, than all microsoft team (who creates windows mobile) in one month
A big respect for him.
LOL if I remember seeing correctly, itje had to take the rom down because of MS copyright or just complaints...Still looking forward to it tho man
No offence, but I'd rather Itje perfected Touch-IT Landscape v4.0 first.
Once that's been tweaked to his satisfaction, and he's had time to catch up with his life, THEN it may be worth asking him if he'll do a ROM based on WM6.5. Personally, I think I'll be happier with a streamlined TouchFlo3D interface than the honeycomb and today screen WM6.5 uses.
I am NOT working on a release to any 6.5 at this rom at the moment.
My only priority now is v4...
I did cook it for personal review, but it is still not worth the effort on posting it.
I will neither respond to any PM or email from ppl wanting to test it.
itje....close this post. And the users of this forum will not confuse...
itje said:
I am NOT working on a release to any 6.5 at this rom at the moment.
My only priority now is v4...
I did cook it for personal review, but it is still not worth the effort on posting it.
I will neither respond to any PM or email from ppl wanting to test it.
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so u saying it makes not sence to try it yet?
That's exactly what he's saying.
Right now, everyone is using unofficial beta releases of WM6.5 to try it out and it isn't exactly ready for everyday use YET. That's also why MS has been asking XDA-Dev to close threads relating to WM6.5 ROMs.
If you hold fire for a few months, you may find that HTC and other manufacturers may update their phone's ROMs towards the end of the year.
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That's exactly what he's saying.
Right now, everyone is using unofficial beta releases of WM6.5 to try it out and it isn't exactly ready for everyday use YET. That's also why MS has been asking XDA-Dev to close threads relating to WM6.5 ROMs.
If you hold fire for a few months, you may find that HTC and other manufacturers may update their phone's ROMs towards the end of the year.
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The rom of 6.5 for the Blackstone is very stable and fast for everyday use

[PROJECT] Android for Touch Pro 2 "Let's make this happen"

I know there is another thread about Android for TP2 but it is a [poll] thread and 98% want it so let's make this happen! Together we WILL have Android on this great device!
I seriously want to be the first person on this thread to thank you guys for working on this. I cant wait to see what comes from this!
Subscribed! Will be checking in!
I'm waiting for the Android port too. Thanks to all those people working on it! Hopefully it will be done as soon as possible because I can't wait till I can run Linux on my Rhodium.
did i sell you that touchpro 2? dan from b-town?
Thank you guys in advance for your great efforts, and look forward running Android on my TP2
Can't wait.
Me 2!!!!!!!!!!!!1
really can't wait, would be awesome!
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did i sell you that touchpro 2? dan from b-town?
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What's up pimpin I was going to bring it back in already but might as well give it another week lol This with Android is going to be ill!
I love ANDROID
Cool stuff.....
I love Android
Props for starting the thread....
BUT....
I CANT STAND AMERICAN STREET SLANG!!!!
ITS DUMBING DOWN THE WORLD AS IT EATS IN EVERY TV SHOW AND RADIO BROADCAST!
Kids in London all walking around "word up pimpin'?"
Word UP PIMPING!!! PIM<PING!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I mean - pimps are a BAD part of society. They are only there because of the stupid laws that mean there is no such thing as a SAFE LEGAL sex worker.
But Android WILL ROCK!!!
id like to help but i havent programed in 6 years... and i kind of fail at using linux on my laptop. (so i use windows) i havent yet used android but i assume its alot better a os then winmobile... wm6.5 ect makes me wish i has symbion on my phone at times... just because of how laggy it is.
This thread is great, but could someone post a quick status update? Ideally, the first post should indicate a few main points so people don't have to read all of the chatter to find the basic info.
A few things that would be nice to have on post #1:
Overview of project
Status
Blocking issues
Help needed from community
(dare I say) ETA?
Is this just a wishful thread or is something really happening ?
+ for the project.
i agree with paulbram!!
For a fully working Android port to TP2 I would definitely donate some cash!
And probably more than me would do the same.
I just got my TP2 last week. Must say that i am liking. Anyways wanna give out a shout out to all my peeps, chuck up the deuce and to all them chicken heads out there, keep flapping your gums!
p.s. ^ that was just a joke. But hopefully we do get some developing going on with this badboy.
Please keep in mind those of us on CDMA networks!
Thanks!
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Please keep in mind those of us on CDMA networks!!
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Here here. I'm brand new to this stuff for phones, but I have a ton of linux/windows experience and an HTC tp2 so if you need me to break (ok hopefully not) my (CDMA) phone testing something, I'm down.
Who is actually doing work on this? I mean, we can have a thread about this and talk all day, but if nobody works on it. Wish I had the knowledge to program this..
Not just a wishlist
this thread was started because the other 30 pages posted were on a poll thread...cr2 i think is to a point where he/she is now lab testing. i think the got dumps from both GSM & CDMA.anyway, i can't wait to get this port...

Community release ?

Just a thought,
Whether there will be a community release of an Android ROM for vogue, which all devs come together in a team and make -maybe- one Android ROM ?
It would gain more advantage because all the devs will contribute according to their respective ideas and if this happen, it's must be a must have android for vogue.
Thank you for all the devs here that make our vogue life.
vellowax said:
Just a thought,
Whether there will be a community release of an Android ROM for vogue, which all devs come together in a team and make -maybe- one Android ROM ?
It would gain more advantage because all the devs will contribute according to their respective ideas and if this happen, it's must be a must have android for vogue.
Thank you for all the devs here that make our vogue life.
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like one big mega rom i know they all help each other in one way or another but this mega rom would be a pretty cool idea
Honestly, it's pretty much like that already,
vellowax said:
Just a thought,
Whether there will be a community release of an Android ROM for vogue, which all devs come together in a team and make -maybe- one Android ROM ?
It would gain more advantage because all the devs will contribute according to their respective ideas and if this happen, it's must be a must have android for vogue.
Thank you for all the devs here that make our vogue life.
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Lol - every release is a community release. That sounds funny but everybody is using something somebody else did, I guarantee it. You should go on a history walk and find out when things got done and who did them...
The installer, for instance (vilord) - we all see it every time we load a new build. it's been around for quite a while now and hasn't really needed any changes. We had a method before that that dzo had cooked up but it was, ahem, a bit confusing for some (somehow.) Or GPS - a ton of early work by srwalter. Fixes by dzo. A ton of revision by jnadke. Further enhancements by kallt_kaffe.
Obviously, none of those things would have happened without dzo.
This leaves out a ton of folks, of course - mssmison, for example, had his hands and say in just about everything when he was around.
All that to say, every dev uses a bunch of stuff that others have done. Every release is a community release. That's the way it's meant to be, that's the way it is, and we all benefit as a result.
*hugs*
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mssmison said:
Honestly, it's pretty much like that already,
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Right - what he said. Brevity is the soul of... something.
mrkite38 said:
Lol - every release is a community release. That sounds funny but everybody is using something somebody else did, I guarantee it. You should go on a history walk and find out when things got done and who did them...
Obviously, none of those things would have happened without dzo.
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Honestly, it's pretty much like that already,
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Yes, i agree with that.
actually, vilord build is my first android rom on vogue and Dzo is the magician here -you are not really retire from this great forum right ?
So, i'm wondering if the ROM might goes into like this ;
"How about if i have Dzo build or K_K build with a ton of Incubus and Myn blazing design and tweak and many other contributions by all the devs here ie for the zImage, initrd, maybe some splash screen, apps or the battery performance (*Can we steal this from CM?) so i can say "This is my android stock ROM for vogue"
But anyway I'm not a programmer, I'm just a user.
thanks for sharing.
Hope this will not hurt anyone.

Really no WM7 or Android on TP2, maybe anyone cooked a light one to test

Hi,
Isn't it really possible to cook a light WM7 or Android for our Touch Pro II ?
Anyone tested it maybe?
So we are all stuck to WM6.5 maximum ?
This doesn't mean any future innovations I guess..
Thanks
Innovator said:
Hi,
Isn't it really possible to cook a light WM7 or Android for our Touch Pro II ?
Anyone tested it maybe?
So we are all stuck to WM6.5 maximum ?
This doesn't mean any future innovations I guess..
Thanks
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Go to the Android TP2 section of the forums.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627997
We've had Android on the TP2 for like a whole year
ace10134 said:
Go to the Android TP2 section of the forums.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627997
We've had Android on the TP2 for like a whole year
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DOH!!!! That's why it's good to search before posting.
Nice, but it's half working, no camera, no speakerphone, battery meter,....
What would be the advantage of flashing this? A pitty the current software (gps,...) wouldn't work anymore.
And what about WM7 ?
Touch pro 2 is dead. The resisitive touchscreen and the 528 mhz processor killed it. No Android or WP7 OS is ever gonna run stable on our Touch Pro 2.
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Nice, but it's half working, no camera, no speakerphone, battery meter,....
What would be the advantage of flashing this? A pitty the current software (gps,...) wouldn't work anymore.
And what about WM7 ?
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Unfortunately the 3rd party developers that devote a ton of their free time and energy to the project haven't got all of the bugs ironed out. Personally if I were you I'd construct a strongly worded e-mail to each of the individuals working on the project and demand your money back.
Oh wait, what's that? You didn't pay them any money? Well then if I were you I'd at least tell them that you're in no way going to continue contributing to the research/testing going on with the project.
Oh? You aren't actually contributing to the project in any way shape or form? Well then I guess if I were you I'd shut up and be thankful for the awesome work these people sacrificed countless hours of work for instead of sitting there expecting the world to be handed to you?
And try searching for christ's sake. Hell they'd probably have GPS and Bluetooth working if they didn't have to clue in people that don't search for crap every time they turn around.
Just one last thing: Innovator? Really? Just what the hell are you innovating?
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Unfortunately the 3rd party developers that devote a ton of their free time and energy to the project haven't got all of the bugs ironed out. Personally if I were you I'd construct a strongly worded e-mail to each of the individuals working on the project and demand your money back.
Oh wait, what's that? You didn't pay them any money? Well then if I were you I'd at least tell them that you're in no way going to continue contributing to the research/testing going on with the project.
Oh? You aren't actually contributing to the project in any way shape or form? Well then I guess if I were you I'd shut up and be thankful for the awesome work these people sacrificed countless hours of work for instead of sitting there expecting the world to be handed to you?
And try searching for christ's sake. Hell they'd probably have GPS and Bluetooth working if they didn't have to clue in people that don't search for crap every time they turn around.
Just one last thing: Innovator? Really? Just what the hell are you innovating?
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+1,000!
And WP7 will never work on TP2.

Looking for stable Android ROM to completely replace WM on Topaz

Hi all!
Is there a full and stable Android ROM for topaz that can completely replace Windows Mobile and run as the main OS?
Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Can you please translate this to English!?
Did you even read the other threads in this forum? The answer to your question has been given a million times now...
Tsubaki-San said:
Did you even read the other threads in this forum? The answer to your question has been given a million times now...
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Yes I did and I have downloaded two versions that I already tried on my device. Both of them boot using an executable after windows mobile boot. And both of them do not response after 10 minutes of use when the device has gone to sleep mode (screen off).
I would really appreciate it if you could point the thread that answers my question.
Why did you buy Topaz with Windows if you will use Android?
Maybe it would be better to buy some device with Android ROM
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Yes I did and I have downloaded two versions that I already tried on my device. Both of them boot using an executable after windows mobile boot. And both of them do not response after 10 minutes of use when the device has gone to sleep mode (screen off).
I would really appreciate it if you could point the thread that answers my question.
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If you DID read it, then you'd know that the NAND version is in development, and all you can use right now is HARET.
Oh, and you're setting it up wrong if it keeps freezing.
Guys take it easy! You don't have to be that arrogant!
@Tsubaki-San If my question is answered a million times, then I guess there is reason why people ask the same and same again. So I will not feel bad!
@zizkam I have my device for a year now and I was thinking to change it a little bit without giving any money. Maybe it's a bad idea. We will see...
@seargent007 I guess that I missed this part and this is way I'm asking. I didn't mean to cause any trouble!
Thanks for your help!!!
misleading title =.='
ur title is pretty misleading
u had my hopes up and crushed them in less than a second...T_T
agentsanta said:
ur title is pretty misleading
u had my hopes up and crushed them in less than a second...T_T
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Sorry, I know what you mean. How about now?
I'd love for it to happen, and I've been following this forum for quite some time now. Still nothing.
I think we'll just have to buy a new phone... and not one with an OS by Microsoft (NEVER AGAIN!!!). Not to disrespect the great work done on this project...
A fully stable version would be great, but unfortunateley I don't see us seriously using Android on Topaz, other than just for testing and fun.
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A fully stable version would be great, but unfortunateley I don't see us seriously using Android on Topaz, other than just for testing and fun.
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I disagree, the development team has done most of the work, it isn't out of the question to see a stable rom soon.
I'd really like this to work ! i've been using my htc desire for a few months now,
but i'm looking forward to using my diamond again for daily use - with android - !

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