New TouchFlo 3D v2.5!!! - Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development

Check this one out TF3D v2.5. Hopefully can port into our HD
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5321

NRGZ28 as released a testrom with this manila but to much bugs,he as removed the link the same day,i think better rom with this manila as coming in the future

that looks really nice.
hopefully will see the new version incorporated in upcoming rom' s .

Looks like a natural progression of TF3D, and the start of the 'sense' version of TF for WM.
I noticed the option to add 'widgets' in there so that looks interesting.
Cant wait for a bug free version to hit our ROM's.

Really nice, but not as improved as HTC Sense (TouchFlo3D)..

Cant wait to cook this manila into my rom. Hopefully the big chefs with access to the leaks will share it and not lock their roms....
The contacts tab seems a step backwards for me though. Back to the HTC cube layout from a few generations ago.

i don't really like the square contacts... it's the same as the other UIs, like spb shell 3, the actual favorite contacts list is the best

[email protected] said:
i don't really like the square contacts... it's the same as the other UIs, like spb shell 3, the actual favorite contacts list is the best
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i agree for conctacts

but i really liked calander tab and also home tab as well

I think that the best thing they included is footprints feature. I am not sure whether it would work well with gps that is used in Blackstone. New calendar tab is sweet

Mishael said:
I think that the best thing they included is footprints feature. I am not sure whether it would work well with gps that is used in Blackstone. New calendar tab is sweet
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It already works on Touch Cruise '09, which probably uses the same GPS chip, so yeah, Footprints are going to work on the HD.
I'm more concerned about specs necessary to run this new version of Manila. Firestone has (if I remember correctly) a 600 MHz Snapdragon...

am i wrong or in the video in the link in the first post a HD? if that dude can have it why dont we have it?

Arthenik said:
I'm more concerned about specs necessary to run this new version of Manila. Firestone has (if I remember correctly) a 600 MHz Snapdragon...
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600mhz msm, same video chipset. It should work without problems

I like this new manila

Can the new Manila still show upcoming appointments belao the clock, instead of those shortcuts?
And is it possible to get back the old contacts page?

if you want appointments and current and favorite layout stay with current manila lol

where can i get the cab?

This looks good.
Anyone got a link to that rom?
Or if someone cares to re-upload it
All I know is that it's NRGs rom.

rdgut said:
This looks good.
Anyone got a link to that rom?
Or if someone cares to re-upload it
All I know is that it's NRGs rom.
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what energy rom? I had all his but never had that manila?

lol its the Firestone test rom not NRG's, but he has access to its OEM packages

Related

Touchflo 2D on Diamond?

Anyone tried install Touchflo 2D on Diamond? I think it is a good idea to replace Tf3D by the 2D counter part, as it will speed up the system quite a lot.
i dont think there is a dump of that rom yet, the viva is not out for a few weeks, but i have been wrong before.
Speed up .... actually the TF3D is using the dedicated graphics processor for it which is there in the phone, and replacing by 2D you'll max get some extra free RAM. Other than that, try like SwiftBL ROM or Duttys ROM (using it) which have super fast TF3D, and you really do not want to sacrifice all that 3D beauty
Besides, I guess soon the Touch HD will have a better/updated TF3D which I really hope the hackers/coders will be able to port it for our Diamond .... if I am right.
Just do a search, an installation method has already be posted on the forum. But TF2D is QVGA.
install this cab and tf2d is on your diamond...
http://www.mediafire.com/?0jnmzz1ltnb
u can select it from today menu
deffez said:
install this cab and tf2d is on your diamond...
http://www.mediafire.com/?0jnmzz1ltnb
u can select it from today menu
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This is not TF2D but the old HTC Home today plugin.
omg... i keep asking the same question... keep getting the same responses...
"why do u want to... diamond has TF3D"
to be honest i like TF3d but... 3 screens are slow...
Emails
Photos and Videos
MP3s
if we can integrate these to the TF3d interface i'll be a happy man...
i like the look of contacts and the weather... so happy to sacrifice...
someone needs to port it accross...
TF3d is faster now with SB's rom but not as smooth and responsive as TF2d manila >.<
ryousuke said:
omg... i keep asking the same question... keep getting the same responses...
"why do u want to... diamond has TF3D"
to be honest i like TF3d but... 3 screens are slow...
Emails
Photos and Videos
MP3s
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exactly! 3D effect is nice but the flipping envelop is really unnecessary.
EazyVG said:
Speed up .... actually the TF3D is using the dedicated graphics processor for it which is there in the phone, and replacing by 2D you'll max get some extra free RAM. Other than that, try like SwiftBL ROM or Duttys ROM (using it) which have super fast TF3D, and you really do not want to sacrifice all that 3D beauty
Besides, I guess soon the Touch HD will have a better/updated TF3D which I really hope the hackers/coders will be able to port it for our Diamond .... if I am right.
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well, since Diamond is not on sales in the USA yet. I think there is a chance that HTC will upgrade the ROM again.
helpme said:
exactly! 3D effect is nice but the flipping envelop is really unnecessary.
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in a perfect world... HTC will release TF3d for our diamonds with the option of choosing 3d/2d animations...
i gasped at when i saw how fast photo flicking through the 2d interface was/is!!!
i know thats not going to happen...
so hopefully some rom cooker can make this happen !
bump .....

NEW HTC Geotagging Touchflow3D Tab (available in Touch Cruise ROM)

http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/22/htc-debuts-new-touch-cruise-phone-with-footprints-geotagging/
anyone an idea how to include this, or even better providing cab?
regards
irm
That tab looks cool, want!
Hope new cruise comes soon so it gets ported fast
Edit: Oh new cruise has only QVGA and touchflo 2D. will see then about that tab..
Have patience. All top-of-the-bill HTC phones have TF3D and *all* the functions other HTC phones have. We just have to wait for a newer device than HD or MAX.
Seems kind of pointless to me.
I'm not that forgetful
new polaris rom with footprints: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478029
it's possible to port it on blackstone?
Thanks
scanny said:
new polaris rom with footprints: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478029
it's possible to port it on blackstone?
Thanks
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I included it in my rom last week. It is running but M2D has a wrong resolution for Blackstone so you have to port/photoshop the graphics. Over in the Kaiser or Raphael forum you can download a standalone version of footprints (without M2D).

User Interface ROM...Anyone Interested??

I'm debating on making a UI ROM. This ROM would contain ALL the most popular UIs for windows mobile. I will try and customize the look of them if people want. Is anyone interested in this???
PS. Of course you know this may eat up a lot of storage memory. I'll try and minimize as much as I can.
Bxsteez said:
I'm debating on making a UI ROM. This ROM would contain ALL the most popular UIs for windows mobile. I will try and customize the look of them if people want. Is anyone interested in this???
PS. Of course you know this may eat up a lot of storage memory. I'll try and minimize as much as I can.
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Try the basic ones: iFonz+S2U2+S2P, Throttlelauncher+throttlelock, HS++, and of course, Manila!
Hmmm i was thinking more like FEWidgets, PointUI, SPB Mobile shell and TF3D. I'm really not a fan of throttle launcher cause its so freaking slow..
Depending on the performance.. I would love to give it a shot.
I would like to have:
Taskbar Icons,
Background for all Tabs,
Slider Icons,
New Icons set under Start - Like iPhone everything one size within a Sq template. (for WM6.5)
S2U2 cooked into the WM 6.1 ROM
If the ROM is smooth and stable with out any memory leaks and within acceptable RAM usage... I am sure a lot of people would love it.
My 2 Cents.
I would probably base the ROM on WM6.1 but I was going to put tweaks for the interfaces and some basic apps. This would be more of a Find ur UI ROM so u can test them all and to have them all optimized in one rom
I think this is a great idea, and would certainly be interested if it had a nicely set up PointUI with SenseUI suite (I've had issues with it running on my phone).
Throttlelauncher should be speedy enough on this device. It was quite fast on my old Herald, and that thing's ancient. I would probably prefer that there weren't any paid interfaces like Home2 and SPB, since not everyone has a registration for them.
elazullizard said:
Throttlelauncher should be speedy enough on this device. It was quite fast on my old Herald, and that thing's ancient. I would probably prefer that there weren't any paid interfaces like Home2 and SPB, since not everyone has a registration for them.
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From what i've seen Throttle launcher is slow and laggy on every device.. I can try it on the TP2 and make a decision. SPB mobile shell is like rated one of the top interfaces for Winmo so i can't leave that out. It gives the people who do use that interface the ability to have a customized ROM for it. I'm personally not a fan but have like 10 coworkers that hate tf3d and love spb.
How about Moto Homescreen or UL for that matter!
Check this thread out try editing the manila 2.6 and making a landscape version and using the latest 2.5/2.1 to try and get it working correctly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551813
elite67 said:
Check this thread out try editing the manila 2.6 and making a landscape version and using the latest 2.5/2.1 to try and get it working correctly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551813
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I honestly don't believe that is possible but I can look into it. No one wants to share the Manila 2.6 Packages so there is nothing I can do there.
I'd like it but im sure it would be pretty hard to bundle all that together and still be able to hotswitch between the different today screens.
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I'd like it but im sure it would be pretty hard to bundle all that together and still be able to hotswitch between the different today screens.
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Well they are all like today plugins so you would switch between them the same way u add and remove today plugins...

Can someone build a rom with "programs" tab and "footprints"

Hi all fellow TP2 Users,
i have been doing my fair share of experimenting with all the custom roms available here on the XDA forums. i must say, i feel like i hit a gold mine by buying this phone and also finding this forum for support. however, i havent been able to find anyone on here that has built a custom rom that has both the Programs tab and the Footprints tab available in the rom. it would also be nice to have the twitter tab and manila tv player tab available as well. why cant these tabs all be incorporated into the rom and let us, the users, decide whether or not we wish to use them? its all about customization and user friendliness. someone please give it a try and lets see how far it flys or does it simply crash and burn.
also, anyone know where i can find a cab to add more squares to the home tab? being limited to 9 favorites of "anything" feels kinda restricting considering the capabilities of this phone!!
thanks in advance and any and all responses are encouraged on here and to my email.
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Welcome to forums
There are several ROM´s with programs and footprints tabs
Just to mention one, look for Energy leo
If it´s not what you are looking for, the best way will be to contact a Chef and donate him asking your request
if u want those tab's, just use agent_47 latest ROM's
believe me, U wont regret
EDIT: oops a lil missunderstanding... was thinking about documents tab n footprints.
but still give Valkyrie a go
Isn't this because the footprints/twitter tab is a sense 2.5 tab and the programs tab is in sense 2.1? I think you'll get one or the other depending on which manila is in the rom your using...your home tab "favorites" essentially takes the place of the old programs tab
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EDIT: oops a lil missunderstanding... was thinking about documents tab n footprints.
but still give Valkyrie a go
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Ahh the documents tab...I've seen the screenshots but haven't yet looked around for any roms with it yet...I'll wait on nrg.
thanks for the tip on the NRG leo option. on another side note; even though im relatively new here i would like everyone to know that i am technically savvy and catch on very quickly. i can only hope that sometime in the near future i can contribute something of worth (besides a donation to a chef) to the forums and even possibly cook in the future. however, can anyone enlighten me on the "leo" "photon" differences in NRG's roms. if he has stated it, i mustve just overlooked it. also great props go out to his xmas theme and am gonna try his dusk theme soon.
i also wish to extend a great bow and offer up some kudos to two pump chumps roms as well. his roms are snappy and i love his choice of preinstalled features and games! these two chefs need to collaborate on a rom together! THAT would b awesome!!
bvone21 said:
Isn't this because the footprints/twitter tab is a sense 2.5 tab and the programs tab is in sense 2.1? I think you'll get one or the other depending on which manila is in the rom your using...your home tab "favorites" essentially takes the place of the old programs tab
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not a big fan of being limited to only 9 "squares+" for shortcuts. waiting for a cab to add more or bring back the programs tab.
bluevmax92 said:
not a big fan of being limited to only 9 "squares+" for shortcuts. waiting for a cab to add more or bring back the programs tab.
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hi then install max manila the you have 20 shorcuts
bluevmax92 said:
thanks for the tip on the NRG leo option. on another side note; even though im relatively new here i would like everyone to know that i am technically savvy and catch on very quickly. i can only hope that sometime in the near future i can contribute something of worth (besides a donation to a chef) to the forums and even possibly cook in the future. however, can anyone enlighten me on the "leo" "photon" differences in NRG's roms. if he has stated it, i mustve just overlooked it. also great props go out to his xmas theme and am gonna try his dusk theme soon.
i also wish to extend a great bow and offer up some kudos to two pump chumps roms as well. his roms are snappy and i love his choice of preinstalled features and games! these two chefs need to collaborate on a rom together! THAT would b awesome!!
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Leo/Photon are his rom versions with different Manila (HTC's Custom Homescreen) versions cooked in. Leo has Manila 2.5 (with footprints, documents, twitter, and is portrait mode only) and photon has Manila 2.1 (has the programs tab, that card styled contacts tab, etc, works in portrait and landscape). See the screenshots in his threads to see most of the "layout" differences.
oh and dusk is not nrg's theme, he's just cooked it into his roms so you don't have to fuss with installing it...
bluevmax92 said:
not a big fan of being limited to only 9 "squares+" for shortcuts. waiting for a cab to add more or bring back the programs tab.
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weesje said:
hi then install max manila the you have 20 shorcuts
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There are also cab's around for 12 and 16 shortcuts.
thanks for this tip. it has directed me in the right direction.

Request to the Cookers (ROM)

Hello guys i just wana say something, and maybe some of the cookers who think the same way can cook something like this.
Here is full with many new ROM`s for our Blackstones but mostly they are with Manila 2.5 Sense and they are very very heavy ROM`s and not Run like it must to be on our device.. for that reason i use only ROM`s with 2.1 Sense because of the speed but even 2.1 Sense cant beat the speed and feel of TF3D 2.1.XXX so i know there is avalible ROM like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592632
from Topix but its Old Build, my question is can anyone cook a clean 6.5 Build for example some of the latest build from COM 2 21903 and to cook in the latest TF3D 2.1.XXX not sense anymore.
By clean i mean all files that the useless or all aplications that can be installed via cab to be removed from the ROM. Because some of the apps get updates all the time so you just can uninstall and install the new one via cab.. this can heppand only if the apps are not cooked in the ROM.
So for what im talking is a Super Fast ROM for everyday use, and on the same time good battery consumation, also everyone know how fast can be the old TF3D also i cant imagine a copressed TF3D with some other tweaks what will heppand... and how fast and sensitive will be.
Often we forgot that the main function of our devices is a Phone so often when there are heavy ROM`s the dialer is slow.. when someone calling you the respond is slow and things like this, what we really need is a Fast Device and fast Dialer fast response time when someone calling you to not have a delay and things like this.
If anyone who can cook wana make such a ROM will be awesome.
Thanks
I totally agree with you, would be nice if a chef could cook this up for us
tsalta said:
Hello guys i just wana say something, and maybe some of the cookers who think the same way can cook something like this.
Here is full with many new ROM`s for our Blackstones but mostly they are with Manila 2.5 Sense and they are very very heavy ROM`s and not Run like it must to be on our device.. for that reason i use only ROM`s with 2.1 Sense because of the speed but even 2.1 Sense cant beat the speed and feel of TF3D 2.1.XXX so i know there is avalible ROM like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592632
from Topix but its Old Build, my question is can anyone cook a clean 6.5 Build for example some of the latest build from COM 2 21903 and to cook in the latest TF3D 2.1.XXX not sense anymore.
By clean i mean all files that the useless or all aplications that can be installed via cab to be removed from the ROM. Because some of the apps get updates all the time so you just can uninstall and install the new one via cab.. this can heppand only if the apps are not cooked in the ROM.
So for what im talking is a Super Fast ROM for everyday use, and on the same time good battery consumation, also everyone know how fast can be the old TF3D also i cant imagine a copressed TF3D with some other tweaks what will heppand... and how fast and sensitive will be.
Often we forgot that the main function of our devices is a Phone so often when there are heavy ROM`s the dialer is slow.. when someone calling you the respond is slow and things like this, what we really need is a Fast Device and fast Dialer fast response time when someone calling you to not have a delay and things like this.
If anyone who can cook wana make such a ROM will be awesome.
Thanks
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You should try this :
http://forum.hdblog.it/showthread.php?t=9413
Direct link : http://www.sendspace.com/file/0r6fx8
it's italian but I could even translate it into WWE...or edit it in such a way...
if I would have a good reason to do this...
Flash and try and let me know through PM...
greets!
Kenia1234 said:
You should try this :
http://forum.hdblog.it/showthread.php?t=9413
Direct link : http://www.sendspace.com/file/0r6fx8
it's italian but I could even translate it into WWE...or edit it in such a way...
if I would have a good reason to do this...
Flash and try and let me know through PM...
greets!
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Dude we talk about WWE ROM because i don`t understand anything from Italian
After many roms tested and tried (2.5), I was surprised with how fast 2.1 is. Never going back to 2.5 anymore. But I don't mind having 2.1 sense though.
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Dude we talk about WWE ROM because i don`t understand anything from Italian
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Ok...but just try it...
don't do anything else...
I mean...Once I tried a Dutch ROM...I didn't understand a word...but I could watch how that ROM was...
now you should do the same...try how do you feel with that ROM and let me know what you think about it...and we could talk through PM...
and then reflash with a WWE ROM... ok?
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Ok...but just try it...
don't do anything else...
I mean...Once I tried a Dutch ROM...I didn't understand a word...but I could watch how that ROM was...
now you should do the same...try how do you feel with that ROM and let me know what you think about it...and we could talk through PM...
and then reflash with a WWE ROM... ok?
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Why to speak over PM for that reason i open a Thread everyone to can say what he/she think about this, so i dont mind to try the rom if there was avalible WWE translation of the ROM because i can see its good but what to do then? just Nothing.
And i don`t like the idea because few times you mention i can translate it if i have reason Also to write you in PM witch not sound GOOD.
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I totally agree with you, would be nice if a chef could cook this up for us
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me too
tsalta said:
Why to speak over PM for that reason i open a Thread everyone to can say what he/she think about this, so i dont mind to try the rom if there was avalible WWE translation of the ROM because i can see its good but what to do then? just Nothing.
And i don`t like the idea because few times you mention i can translate it if i have reason Also to write you in PM witch not sound GOOD.
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you could try and tell me what you think...
I just meant that if you liked the ROM and there were some other people willing for this I would have considered the idea to develop a WWE version...
that's all...
I simply don't understand this :
tsalta said:
not sound GOOD.
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What do YOU mean??
I was not asking for anything...I just wanted to answer to your question...
and I believe that talk through PM is easier...but if you wanna talk in this thread I obiouvsly agree...
I just wanted to know if you like it...
that's all...
if you hate PM write in this thread!!
Faster ROM is needed!!!
I was about to post something similar. Lately I've been quite disappointed with the performance of my Blackstone, especially the latest ROMs. I think too much attention is being paid to introducing new features from the latest devices at the expense of the speed. The lack of speed is quite frankly makes a device totally unusable despite all the new features.
To the OP: I'm not sure if it's a Sense/TF3D issue, as these can be either disabled or installed separately, but totally agree with bringing up the subject.
The most clean rom: Mario super lite (WM6.1 & WM6.5).
They are old builds but very stable and low memory & power eating.
I have tried most of roms from cookers here but always go back to these two.(Keep backups from two roms.) Now I using wm6.1 with SPB Mobile SHELL.
User X said:
I was about to post something similar. Lately I've been quite disappointed with the performance of my Blackstone, especially the latest ROMs. I think too much attention is being paid to introducing new features from the latest devices at the expense of the speed. The lack of speed is quite frankly makes a device totally unusable despite all the new features.
To the OP: I'm not sure if it's a Sense/TF3D issue, as these can be either disabled or installed separately, but totally agree with bringing up the subject.
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The TF3D is very very fast and Smooth so the diference is that the icons are not coloured but you can do it with a single cab also there have not my location service on the weather tab and you dont have the weather under the clock in the home screen but i ask myself HOW many times i watch the weather in the home tab under the clock? the question is Never all we can agree its more eye candy and beautyfull but is not usefull and many other things in the new SENSE are just for eye candy so befor a long time when i was using old TF3D i still remember for example when i tab to update the weather via WiFi the weather Update for around a half seconds WOWWW now with all the new SENSE things.. all the tabs are much more slower you need to wait the weather to be Updated and things like this.. Also i miss in the Album tab the Auto Rotation i can`t believe that this was removed from the new Builds because this was really usefull i mean when you click to see some image and you rotate the screen the image fit the whole screen really fast no matter how you rotate the screen, i dont know why this was removed...
Many peoples will say you can do this for example with G-config but the question is why to use 3rd Apps to make something that is made to be like this by default also the Auto rotation of the Album was really fast and smooth without delay.
Now with all this knowlage i mean the CFC Compression and all other regs tweak that we know and new Stuffs i can`t imagine what will be if someone create such a ROM WM 6.5 Based with Copmressed TF3D also can be compresed the Phone Canvas the dialer Images to be lighter and the whole graphics...to be compressed for example see the Blackstonehange ROM`s how they are smaller size than all other because of this compression of all images under windows.
This can be really a Rocket ROM for everday use..
There already have clean ROM`s without Manila and Titatnium.. Okay they are clean ROM`s but honestly is bored to use such as big screen without good UI and you need to use Apps like SPB Shell or other like that to have some UI because is ugly to have one empty big screen without a UI..
I think that the Manila UI is a good also the new SENSE is good but its not made for us.. and the Blackstone feel confortable with the old TF3D so with all this new things coming to the forum and all cooking expirience im sure that now someone can create really a Rocket ROM and you to feel Speed,Smoothnes,response time and to Enjoy the Blackstone to love to scrolling and to love to use it.. not to wait 5 seconds the Music in the Music tab to be loaded and things like this...
I Hope someone really to create some kind of HYBRID ROM from all the Best in one simple ROM
tsalta said:
... i know there is avalible ROM like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592632
from Topix but its Old Build...
Thanks
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Thanks for this! I like it! I might keep it
A perfect example of what we're talking about. I don't care about autorotations and stuff like that. If I did I would get an iPhone I guess . Speed and stability that's what it should be all about!
Ummm, yes...
I'm waiting to see what will happen here:
TOPIX_Kwbr_Win 6.5_Ver_21877 + TouchFLO3D 2.1.38411.0 (supposedly Kwbr will update this once he gets his HD working) and here: [ROM][WM6.5/6.5.x][21903/23116][WWE][UC] Clean ROM v. T1.0/B1.0*****03.05.2010*****
But I really like Manila 2.1.19212117.2 which is cooked in Wajk's ROMs.
It handles contacts and mail accounts much more to my liking than TF3D.
But I'll watch this thread too...
Bodisson said:
Ummm, yes...
I'm waiting to see what will happen here:
TOPIX_Kwbr_Win 6.5_Ver_21877 + TouchFLO3D 2.1.38411.0 (supposedly Kwbr will update this once he gets his HD working) and here: [ROM][WM6.5/6.5.x][21903/23116][WWE][UC] Clean ROM v. T1.0/B1.0*****03.05.2010*****
But I really like Manila 2.1.19212117.2 which is cooked in Wajk's ROMs.
It handles contacts and mail accounts much more to my liking than TF3D.
But I'll watch this thread too...
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If anyone can integrate MY location Services from the Sense to the Touch FLO 3D this sill be Incredible and will be the best choice at all here you can read why NOW i prefer SENSE than the Touch FLO.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6523309&postcount=200

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