help repair my g1 - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hey my g1's screen is bust and is always stuck in the landscape mode. this is a definate hardware fault and i believe that the conacts arnt connecting properly. origionaly i only thought there was two contacts but supposidly ther is four as i was told this by another member..
pinetreehater
"Look on the back of your LCD. There is a curved track that guides the screen when open. If look closely (upwards and inside the side toward the camera), you will see two gold contacts that are about an inch apart. There are corresponding contacts on the base of the phone that meet these two contacts when you slide your screen. Make sure nothing is lodged on either of these contacts. Perhaps you can take a can of compressed air and blow off anything that is shorting these contacts and tricking the OS into thinking you should be in landscape."
in the photos below the red circles show the contacts i know about and where i gues they are ment to make contact with.
do any of you know where the two other contacts are? or anything else that i might not be thinking of?
also theres a black pad circled in blue. mine fell off during disassembly but i assumed i didnt need it? could that be it?
cheers everyone

I have never taken my G1 that far apart, so my help is only speculative. I was referring to two other contacts, not the two you pointed out. Those cannot be the ones responsible for switching the screen, because the screen only changes after the lcd has been moved about an inch. If those were responsible, the screen orientation would change as soon as you barely moved it.
There are two other contacts on the back of the LCD, not the body. It appears the post that guides the sliding mechanism makes contact with these contacts at precisely the moment the screen changes.
Your pictures are from the main body side....look on the back of the LCD.
As I said before, something is changing your orientation after a reboot (since it should reboot into portrait). This indicates that the sensors are working somehow, and getting a bad signal that makes the screen orientation change. Check for loose or wiggly wires to these connections in the picture (or anything that could cause a short).

opened again and yet still no luck. what your pointing at is a bit. on the other side its a gasket. like a sheet of sticky stuff to keep extra wires in place. my heads fried so i may give in and just pay to get it repaired

Sorry...
It certainly doesn't look like a bit. It looks like a copper mesh contact. And when the post touches this area, is when the screen re-orients. Please look again...I. am certain the contacts you pointed out are not the ones that flip the screen...you can move the screen a good inch before it rotates. If the contacts you show were responsible, the screen would flip as soon as it was moved.

There is a pdf showing dissassembly and reassembly if that helps you...http://mikechannon.net/PDF Manuals/HTC Dream SM (A04).pdf

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xdaIIi screen problem help!!!

guys I have problem with my phone's screen, the upper part of the screen during portrait mode is no longer responding to the right spot. but the rest its ok...anyhelp?do I have to change my LCD? I even had it hard reset which gives me a bigger problem, a Align Screen menu pops out and I could not align it....anyhelp????
looks like you have defective digitizer screen, try to take apart and reseat the LCD connector. maybe it'll help.
last resort, change the digitizer screen.
yes, I think that's the same problem that i've been facing since last year :-|
any I dea how could that be happens ?
or is there any way to do it without bricking the device ?
welll....
I am looking at the possibility that it needs to be stripped down and cleaned! dirt could be causing the issue around the edges by applying pressure to the digitizer!!
does anyone know of any toolkits you can get to take this thing apart I am not too confident with my kitchen knife and chisel....
Probably on this forum somewhere...
(edit : I just did a bit of pushing down and hooking a piece of card around the edges of the screen and it seems to be working fine however this can be temporary...)
There are guides in this forum to taking an Alpine to pieces completely: I had to change my screen recently and it can easily be done before the backup battery has run out of juice.
If the digitiser part is behaving erratically you cna just purchase a new digitiser for about £4.95 off ebay, rather than fork out around 30-40 for a new screen.
TOols you'll need are small screwdrivers and a small set of torx screwdrivers.. again a search will tell you what size (I have a pack of t5 6 and 7 and cant remember which it is - it's the same pack you buy for disassembling mobiles)
Joe

Alignment problems

My screen constantly goes out of alignment.
I have to realign it 10-12 times a day and sometime it goes out by alot !
I have tried 6 different ROMS and they all have the same problems
Can anyone help ?
Thanks
yeh.. mine's like that too... except it only seems to happen when it gets a bit warm.... haven't been able to find a solution for it so far.
Did a few searches and the general consensus seems to be that it's a hardware fault (screen and digitiser) and other people have sent it off for warranty repairs.
I'm going to have problems with the warranty as I have changed the Rom many many times.
Don't know how to put the original Telstra ROM back, assuming I can even get it !
Hey guys
I am on my 2nd diamond..
the first one had huge alignment problems, so i got it replaced..
after a month, the new one started doing the same thing..
i found a thread somewhere here on XDA (for the life of me cant remember where it is now)
but it had a little solution that mixed with mine, worked!
the problem is that the screen is not sitting properly in the casing anymore, possible due to a bump in your pocket, or a fall.. this causes a certain section of the screen to be higher or lower than the rest..
place the phone flat on a desk, and open up the notes app and try to write/draw something.. see which side of the screen the line is heading towards..
now place place your thumb and a finger on diagonal sides of the screen (eg, bottom left and top right) and press down... check with the stylus if its any better... if not, try opposite sides and check again..
mine always shot up to the top right, so when i held down the top left side of the phone, it worked..
so this meant that the top right side was sitting slightly higher than the rest of the screen.
the solution is:
find a business card with sharp corners and place the edge underneath the screen (just the corner, dont shove the whole thing up there!) hehe
then slide the card up and down a few times, and then do another side of the screen... do all 4 sides but pay special attention to area where the styles was migrating towards in the notes app..
after doing this, my phone hasnt given me a days problem in 2 months now..
give feedback if this solution works for you!

Hardware problem (buttons), please help.

over the past few weeks some of the buttons (namely left soft key, up and left) have stopped working, i've tried numerous roms just incase but it's definatley a hardware issue, now, i've dismanted the phone using the diamantos guide to see if anything jumps out at me, gave the phone a damn good cleaning whilst i had the chance, put it back together....but nothing, everything seems to be in order, all components in their rightful place but i still cant work it out, does anyone know if this is a common problem or if theres a fix as i've been unsuccessful in my searches.
actually, i just found the solution and it worked a treat, thanks anyway people.
btw, if anyone would like to know what i did then i'll be more than happy to share the solution.
Hi godofwap,
I have the same problem with a trinity I bought used. Tried to stick some papers under the buttons but that didn`t help so I`m very curious how You managed to get them working again. Hope You find the time to write a short notice.
Have some fine days,
FlyBy_1
ok, no problem, heres what i did.
before you start please be aware that this is a very delicate procedure and you should take care as this may naff up your beloved trinity.
ok, i first disassembled my trinity using the dimantos guide located here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311463,
now, when you get to the keyboard / button pcb take it out if, you look closely you'll notice theres a thin adhesive plastic cover covering the metalic buttons, very very carefull peel this back (i used a sharp knife to get to it), making sure not to completely remove it, try to only expose the underneath of the buttons in question, you'll see that the buttons come away with the plasic leaving the underneath exposed, now, using a cotton bud and some lightly applied alcohol clean the contacts then when all is done, replace the plastic and make sure its firmly pressed back down you may notice it making a different, kind of sharper clicking noise when depressed than before meaning its worked, repeat for all buttons.
i think whats going on here is the gum or glue from the plastic film has "leaked" if you will, onto the plates meaning theres no contact from the buttons, this would also account for the very slight change in sound when you now press the button.
i found this info here http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-289737.html
Nice find mate; sounds like a solution for my problem cause when I got my phone the first I had to do was to disassemble and clean the heck outta it, there was dust everywhere as if the old owner had laid it on the moon for a week. But who thought the buttons are actually separatable... strange technique.
Thanks for the hint, at least now I´ve got something to do over the holidays at my parents-in-law
Once again thanks for Your hint.
The problem with mine was actually not dust and stuff between the two halves but too much pressure by the former owner.
After I had separated the plastic film from the board I saw that there were very deep dents where the pick of the metal discs had pushed the soft pcb material down. So I cleaned them anyway and then reapplied the film with an offset of just a fraction of a millimetre so they make perfect contact with the pcb again.
Every single button again works perfectly now

[Q] Problem with display / S-pen??

Hi guys
I am not sure if this has been posted before, i did a quick search but nothing shows up.
Sometimes If I hold the pen close enough (but without touching) the screen would annoyingly picks it up. The problem is way more apparent if I hold the phone upside down, with the screen facing downwards and holding the pen inclined at an angle. Is this a common problem?
I have a video link but unfortunately I cant post the link here it wouldn't let me. Go to youtube and search "Galaxy note s-pen problem" the one by dudelmt
GALAXYNOTE said:
Hi guys
I am not sure if this has been posted before, i did a quick search but nothing shows up.
Sometimes If I hold the pen close enough (but without touching) the screen would annoyingly picks it up. The problem is way more apparent if I hold the phone upside down, with the screen facing downwards and holding the pen inclined at an angle. Is this a common problem?
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Wacom styluses are magnetic based, not capacitive, so technically it doesn't need to touch the screen. You can place a piece of paper over it and trace images for example.
I can't reproduce what you are seeing though. If I open s-memo, and place the stylus in contact with the screen with no pressure, it doesn't trace.
Just watched the video - holy cow, your pen is nowhere close to the note. wow. it looks like it's a good 1.5 cm or so.
- Frank
For the lazy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VfkXo0KU5c&sns=em
Can not reproduce this on my device. Sounds like some electronic magnet issues or perhaps some other pen?? Anyways, sounds like you should get your device replaced unless you wish to keep it as a Magical Note ;-)
No really can not reproduce your issue on my note.
Do you use your phone upside down often?
(really tired and sarcastic, I know it occurs right side up too )
Faulty Pen
You have a faulty pen! Your pressure sensor from pen's tip is defective, jammed, or maybe only the white tip is physically stuck.
Everybody could reproduce this behavior by putting the pen close to screen, with memo app running, and applying pressure on pen's tip with your finger/nail.
So it's normal for the S-pen not to register if there is no pressure applied despite contact? Because that is what is happening with my s-pen. There is contact, no pressure, and it does not register. Is this how it is suppose to work?
Also, does the S-pen have a very faint click or sound when applying pressure like it is activating a pressure sensitive "something".
Thanks
Same problem here.
My Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgFLb8bTnXY
I contacted Samsung for replace the Pen, but they told me that is the first time they receive this type of problem.. so.. they will tell me something after some check..
Same problem for me, noticed that it's usually after the first time you touch the screen with the pen, like it still thinks the pen is touching even though its not. I'll log it with Samsung too see if they give me the same 'haven't seen this before' line.
I also have the same issue, it's rather annoying.
Will play around and see what I can find out.
Did Someone find a replace for the S-Pen?
Same problem here, appears to be worse when you first start using the pen. They should add a calibration option for the pressure to fix this, i think its now auto calibrating and that's why the problem looks worse at start.
FIXED- S Pen Problems...
Hi guys,
I had the same problem of the S Pen drawing while hovering about 15mm above the screen, I managed to fix it but it ain't easy....
It involves pulling the pen apart and there are tiny parts in there!
I am kicking myself I did not take photos, but I honestly didn't think I would get it to work again...
If anyone is still having probs, I can make up a tutorial of what you need to do.
Atleast you MAY not have to buy another S Pen.
Cheers,
Dan.
heelerdog said:
Hi guys,
I had the same problem of the S Pen drawing while hovering about 15mm above the screen, I managed to fix it but it ain't easy....
It involves pulling the pen apart and there are tiny parts in there!
I am kicking myself I did not take photos, but I honestly didn't think I would get it to work again...
If anyone is still having probs, I can make up a tutorial of what you need to do.
Atleast you MAY not have to buy another S Pen.
Cheers,
Dan.
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waiting for a tutorial
S-Pen repair tutorial- not for the faint-heated
OK...
Now I believe everyone that is having problems has at one time or another accidently or on purpose pulled the rear end out.
From what I have seen you CANNOT replicate this fault without that happenning.
Using a small blade prise the button from the Spen starting at the rear end.
The button will flex and pop out.
Pull the rear end off the pen (again ) now CAREFULLY and into a small tray if possible, turn the pen upside down and the 'bits' will come out, they are:
white nib
tiny O ring
tiny disk with nob one end and hole the other
electronics with button
What had happened on mine is that the o ring, disk and nib had pulled apart so that the disk and the wire-wound rod were always in contact so the Note always thought that the pen was in contact with the screen.
The correct order of bits is:
Nib-Disk-O Ring- Rest of electronics...
you will see the nib has a nob that will locate into the disk, the other side of the disk will hold the oring and all this sits against the wire-wound rod.
NO I AM NOT PULLING MINE APART AGAIN FOR PICS!!!
I put the electronics back in first and then using tweezers put the other bits back in through the button hole before carefully sliding it all back to the nib-end of the pen.
The button then pushes back in and locks.
Now, I a happy to answer questions, or if you like, and if you trust me, I am happy to have you send your pen to me here in Australia and I will repair it if i can.
Mine has been 100% since I did this...
Hope this helps!
Dan.
This sounds like an individual problem. For if the Note was faulty as described then it would have been noticed by the 80% in the poll here who like me think the note is pretty perfect.
Individuals and S Pen failures
I agree Gaugerer, it seems though that more and more individuals are finding this problem as more and more notes are sold...
Atleast it is fixable without the exhorbitant price asked for for a replacement stylus.
Cheers, Dan.
Hi I am thinking of also getting a Note and thus I went to a store for trying it out since I want to use it esp. also for taling notes during my meetings.
Thus the S-Pen is one of my keys in the decision and it did disappoint me:
I tried writing some text in the S-note app and when ever I finished a word and raised the pen the line is still drawn further and thus the text was not quite readable.
Same happens when I use the handwriting field at the bottom (instead of the screen keyboard). Then due to the lines being drawn further when the pen does not touch the screen, the recognition puts together the words.
So I think the problem is facing on many devices.
Does anyone ever get a better / more in-details answer from Samsung? Or should we one by one contact their support?
frankiboy_01 said:
Hi I am thinking of also getting a Note and thus I went to a store for trying it out since I want to use it esp. also for taling notes during my meetings.
IThus the S-Pen is one of my keys in the decision and it did disappoint me:
I tried writing some text in the S-note app and when ever I finished a word and raised the pen the line is still drawn further and thus the text was not quite readable.
Same happens when I use the handwriting field at the bottom (instead of the screen keyboard). Then due to the lines being drawn further when the pen does not touch the screen, the recognition puts together the words.
So I think the problem is facing on many devices.
Does anyone ever get a better / more in-details answer from Samsung? Or should we one by one contact their support?
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I contacted "Samsung Exclusive Italy" but they simply told me that check for this problem and recall me. I Never received a call from them.
Thanks to heelerdog for the tutorial, but i dont understand well english, and without some pics I'm afraid to break the S-pen

Warped case root-cause of screen lift?

I posted this in this thread, but I also wanted to post here to get feedback (agree/disagree) from others seeing the screen lift issue.
I've tried a few of the suggested fixes (shim, screw loosen/tighten, remove sponge, reheat glue) to fix my screen lift but the lift keeps coming back. On my device I can see a pronounced warp down the left hand side. Visible on both the screen frame and the plastic back case.
Removing the back case I see it warped on the left but straight on the right. I wonder if this is in fact the root cause of the lift. The warped case is applying force to the left side and the screen can't help but lift.
I've attached pictures to illustrate the issue. You can see (by the color of my fingertip) the amount of force I have to apply to press the left side flat. I think this is why the fixes are all temporary. The warped case will eventually win out against all fix attempts.
I actually don't want to RMA my device. I frankly can't be bothered to. However, if Google wants to send me a new back cover I'd happily accept it. I would imagine, though, that procedurally this would be problematic... you don't want customers taking the devices apart, it's unlikely they have cases lying about, and they have an RMA process in place that most likely is triggered by a clicking a single button on a form (least fuss).
Is anyone else seeing this warping?
The pictures I've attached show:
Looking down the left edge - you can clearly see the warp.
Looking down the right edge - no warp.
Side on of the left edge.
Side on of the right edge.
The left edge before and after pressing down with my finger.

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