I just recently bought (as in a week ago) an AT&T Pure. It's still in perfect condition, but I promptly installed a custom HSPL, Radio, and Rom since I love customization. It's actually a great phone, the tie in with Facebook is amazing as well, but what bothers me is the speed. It lags too much for my tastes (which was one of the reasons I gave my AT&T Xenon to my girlfriend, it lagged too much). I love customization and I know how to work Linux (played with many distros in virtual machines and I have experience deploying Linux based servers).
I have a couple of questions before I buy yet another phone and try to hopefully recover the cost of my AT&T Pure. Does the Nexus One combine Facebook accounts and contacts? Meaning put the Facebook picture as the contact picture, etc.?
Can you put HTC Sense on the phone without unlocking bootloader (rather not invalidate my warranty so quickly)?
I have looked at two backup solutions, MyBackup Pro and Sprite Backup. Which one is better or can you even recommend a much better backup solution?
Can you sync the phone with Outlook backing up contacts and calendar entries?
Is there a field for birthday/anniversary and does those get automatically entered into the calendar?
Is there a calendar widget? An animated weather widget (like the HTC one)?
Can the phone convert into a toaster? Can I use it to travel into the past and kill myself, but survive? Will it tell me the secret to life?
Is there a way of getting root access, without invalidating warranty? Is root access worth it?
If I get the charging dock, when the phone is fully charged, does the dock bypass the battery and provide power straight to the phone, so the battery does not overcharge? The reason for this question is because I want to dock it in the night and essentially use it as an alarm clock to wake me up for work.
Is the phone worth paying over 500$ for when I have the Pure already?
Does it lag at all? Will updates come one after the other as it did before? From what I understand, the Nexus One get it OTA, so we don't have to wait a year to get the update.
Thank you for your time,
Mario Lopez
Yes, you can combine Facebook accounts and contacts - either importing all your facebook contacts onto the device, or merging those entries with the ones already present on your SIM card or with your Google account.
The only option for getting Sense on this phone (if you really really really really really really really want it, for whatever reason) is to flash a custom ROM - which would require unlocking the bootloader, and thus invalidate your warranty.
I think most everyone on this board uses Titanium Backup - it's a very tasty piece of software, but most of the backup options (with any application) will only have full functionality for settings and data if you are rooted - again with a voided warranty.
Supposedly the latest Android 2.2 update allows syncing with Outlook out of the box, and there are third-party apps that I believe will do the same on the 2.1 builds as well. I can't comment for sure as I haven't used these features yet.
I haven't yet encountered a Birthday/Anniversary field in the stock contacts program - could be there, but I don't know.
There is a calendar widget to display your next appointment, and there are weather widgets. As far as the full up Sense animated weather, nothing included in the stock rom has all those pretty touches, but I imagine there are third-party apps that will.
If you leave the phone running some very CPU-intensive tasks, it can indeed turn into a toaster and get quite warm Traveling to the past and killing yourself would interrupt the fabric of the space-time continuum and is therefor discouraged. That said, it's open-source, so you're free to do what you want. The answer to the question of life, the universe, and everything is 42. You don't need a phone to tell you that.
There are no ways to get root access without voiding the warranty. For me, it's worth it.
Can't answer for the charging dock as I haven't used mine yet (lol), but I imagine it would only trickle-charge once the battery is already charged fully. I leave my phone charging overnight when it needs to, and it hasn't combusted yet. To my knowledge.
The phone is worth it if you're looking for a stupid-fast device with lots of community support and quick updates. Keep in mind it's less expensive than an unlocked iPhone
The interface is very quick and snappy. I see occasional lags, but those are few and far between - especially running the leaked test build of Froyo. The NexusOne will get its Android updates straight from Google and a lot faster than anything HTC-branded (where the base code has to be optimized for Sense).
Hope this helps!
Keep in mind, as well: unlocking the bootloader only voids your software warranty...HTC has numerous times done hardware warranty work on rooted phones - a simple search will pull up several results of this, I'm sure.
MaximReapage said:
Keep in mind, as well: unlocking the bootloader only voids your software warranty...HTC has numerous times done hardware warranty work on rooted phones - a simple search will pull up several results of this, I'm sure.
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The language of the waiver you agree to when unlocking the bootloader DOES NOT specify "software only". I just states that your warranty is void if you continue with the unlocking.
HTC *has* been reported to perform warranty work on phones with unlocked bootloaders and obviously defective hardware, but they are not obligated to do so. They would be well within their rights to charge you for any repairs after you knowingly void the warranty.
I wouldn't send an unlocked phone back to HTC unless you're willing to pay for it - they may not make you pay, but it's much better to be prepared to do so.
codesplice said:
I haven't yet encountered a Birthday/Anniversary field in the stock contacts program - could be there, but I don't know.
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Yes, there is one.
Jack_R1 said:
Yes, there is one.
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How do you get to it? I looked briefly before I made that post and didn't see anything.
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Yes, there is one.
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wtf? really?
codesplice said:
Yes, you can combine Facebook accounts and contacts - either importing all your facebook contacts onto the device, or merging those entries with the ones already present on your SIM card or with your Google account.
The only option for getting Sense on this phone (if you really really really really really really really want it, for whatever reason) is to flash a custom ROM - which would require unlocking the bootloader, and thus invalidate your warranty.
I think most everyone on this board uses Titanium Backup - it's a very tasty piece of software, but most of the backup options (with any application) will only have full functionality for settings and data if you are rooted - again with a voided warranty.
Supposedly the latest Android 2.2 update allows syncing with Outlook out of the box, and there are third-party apps that I believe will do the same on the 2.1 builds as well. I can't comment for sure as I haven't used these features yet.
I haven't yet encountered a Birthday/Anniversary field in the stock contacts program - could be there, but I don't know.
There is a calendar widget to display your next appointment, and there are weather widgets. As far as the full up Sense animated weather, nothing included in the stock rom has all those pretty touches, but I imagine there are third-party apps that will.
If you leave the phone running some very CPU-intensive tasks, it can indeed turn into a toaster and get quite warm Traveling to the past and killing yourself would interrupt the fabric of the space-time continuum and is therefor discouraged. That said, it's open-source, so you're free to do what you want. The answer to the question of life, the universe, and everything is 42. You don't need a phone to tell you that.
There are no ways to get root access without voiding the warranty. For me, it's worth it.
Can't answer for the charging dock as I haven't used mine yet (lol), but I imagine it would only trickle-charge once the battery is already charged fully. I leave my phone charging overnight when it needs to, and it hasn't combusted yet. To my knowledge.
The phone is worth it if you're looking for a stupid-fast device with lots of community support and quick updates. Keep in mind it's less expensive than an unlocked iPhone
The interface is very quick and snappy. I see occasional lags, but those are few and far between - especially running the leaked test build of Froyo. The NexusOne will get its Android updates straight from Google and a lot faster than anything HTC-branded (where the base code has to be optimized for Sense).
Hope this helps!
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It really does help, you answered all of my questions, even the fun ones.
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The language of the waiver you agree to when unlocking the bootloader DOES NOT specify "software only". I just states that your warranty is void if you continue with the unlocking.
HTC *has* been reported to perform warranty work on phones with unlocked bootloaders and obviously defective hardware, but they are not obligated to do so. They would be well within their rights to charge you for any repairs after you knowingly void the warranty.
I wouldn't send an unlocked phone back to HTC unless you're willing to pay for it - they may not make you pay, but it's much better to be prepared to do so.
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Ah okay. So basically, they may or they may not, so it is up to their discretion.
Jack_R1 said:
Yes, there is one.
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Where is it, because I played with the emulator and didn't show any birthday fields.
Now, one last question before I put in my 700$ order. If I buy today, will I get it tomorrow? It says overnight shipping, but then it says it will be shipped out the next business day?
mariolopezjr said:
Now, one last question before I put in my 700$ order. If I buy today, will I get it tomorrow? It says overnight shipping, but then it says it will be shipped out the next business day?
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Overnight shipping applies to after it ships I imagine if you order early in the day, it might ship out that day and get to you the following day. Otherwise, you're probably looking at two days.
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Overnight shipping applies to after it ships I imagine if you order early in the day, it might ship out that day and get to you the following day. Otherwise, you're probably looking at two days.
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Thanks for the quick reply, thanks to you guys, you know have a new Nexus One owner. Now I am selling my AT&T Pure on Craigslist. XD
Now, any suggestions on reading I should do? I've read all the rooting tutorials, it's actually very easy to do, anything else I should read? I am currently in the process of reading the Nexus User Guide.
Lastly, I understand Titanium Backup is the best, but root privileges is needed to fully use it. Does that mean that it can do everything MyBackup Pro and Sprite Backup can do? Because supposedly they can backup quite a bit of stuff. What is the difference?
mariolopezjr said:
Thanks for the quick reply, thanks to you guys, you know have a new Nexus One owner. Now I am selling my AT&T Pure on Craigslist. XD
Now, any suggestions on reading I should do? I've read all the rooting tutorials, it's actually very easy to do, anything else I should read? I am currently in the process of reading the Nexus User Guide.
Lastly, I understand Titanium Backup is the best, but root privileges is needed to fully use it. Does that mean that it can do everything MyBackup Pro and Sprite Backup can do? Because supposedly they can backup quite a bit of stuff. What is the difference?
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Most people use titanium because the interface is more useful. Titanium allows you to create more than app back up but the interface displays the versions and not just the date you decided to back up like mybackup pro. I havent used Sprite Backup but both titanium and mbp backup apks+data, system settings and system data. Both have schedulers. What I like about titanium is that it is usually cooked into roms so its easy to jump roms if its installed but its not like its hard to hop onto the market and get it
I'm not terribly familiar with MBP or Sprite, and have only been using Titanium for the past few days. Basically, pretty much any backup program should be able to make backups of most of your applications, but they're generally going to need root privileges to access some of the system data and settings. At least that's how I understand it... could be wrong. It's happened once or twice.
As for reading.... just stick around here lol. Take a look at some of the sticky threads in each of the N1 subforums - lots of good information there.
Glad to have you on board. I've gotten several of my buddies here to purchase N1s as well
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How do you get to it? I looked briefly before I made that post and didn't see anything.
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It's funny, I never bothered to take a look myself if I can enter it on the phone, I just saw (more than once) Birthday field when looking at the contact of my darling wife.
Now I checked, and you can't change that field from the phone. But the really funny thing is - enter Gmail, load the contact, it has "birthday" field, change the field, and you'll see it on the phone
One more thing - on Froyo there is full integration of Outlook contacts, but they're different from Gmail contacts - they have different fields and different options. I was quite surprised to see it (it's shown easily - Gmail supports multiple mobile numbers under the same category "mobile", Outlook doesn't, so when you try to enter multiple mobile phones to Outlook contact - you discover that it can't be done). Maybe in this respect it's also different - Outlook-derived contacts might allow editing Birthday while Google contacts don't (not from the phone).
And since I'm running Eclair (CM5.0.7.1), I'm not sure what's going on with Gmail contacts on Froyo.
That's for seeing birthdays on calendar:
http://www.nicholasoverstreet.com/2010/03/android-contacts-birthdays-in-your-calendar/
what the heck are you talking about?
he asked where to put in the birthdays @ stock contacts app... we all know there is a birthday calendar...
you can only add the birthday @ contacts.google.com, unfortunately not in the contacts app
Maybe I don't read well, and maybe I do. Read this quote:
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Is there a field for birthday/anniversary and does those get automatically entered into the calendar?
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Well, there IS a field, in stock contact app. You can't enter anything there from the phone - oh well, that's the situation (today, and tomorrow it might be fixed, and I didn't even check for market apps that might already do it). You can make it appear automatically in the calendar, too - link above. Now, what the heck was I writing here? Answering his question, most probably. You want a screenshot of a birthday showing up in stock contact app when viewing a contact? I thought it's trivial to try.
and read this quote , your reply to this quote was "yes there is one"
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I haven't yet encountered a Birthday/Anniversary field in the stock contacts program - could be there, but I don't know.
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ok, understood now. There IS a field but you can not edit it...
I am quite sure codesplice is referring to a field where i can type in a birthday.. not just see it.
think i am the one with reading disabilities..
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Most people use titanium because the interface is more useful. Titanium allows you to create more than app back up but the interface displays the versions and not just the date you decided to back up like mybackup pro. I havent used Sprite Backup but both titanium and mbp backup apks+data, system settings and system data. Both have schedulers. What I like about titanium is that it is usually cooked into roms so its easy to jump roms if its installed but its not like its hard to hop onto the market and get it
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Yeah, I understand what you mean, that makes sense.
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I'm not terribly familiar with MBP or Sprite, and have only been using Titanium for the past few days. Basically, pretty much any backup program should be able to make backups of most of your applications, but they're generally going to need root privileges to access some of the system data and settings. At least that's how I understand it... could be wrong. It's happened once or twice.
As for reading.... just stick around here lol. Take a look at some of the sticky threads in each of the N1 subforums - lots of good information there.
Glad to have you on board. I've gotten several of my buddies here to purchase N1s as well
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Thank you for the information, hopefully it'll be able to backup most of my settings without me having to go root just yet.
Jack_R1 said:
It's funny, I never bothered to take a look myself if I can enter it on the phone, I just saw (more than once) Birthday field when looking at the contact of my darling wife.
Now I checked, and you can't change that field from the phone. But the really funny thing is - enter Gmail, load the contact, it has "birthday" field, change the field, and you'll see it on the phone
One more thing - on Froyo there is full integration of Outlook contacts, but they're different from Gmail contacts - they have different fields and different options. I was quite surprised to see it (it's shown easily - Gmail supports multiple mobile numbers under the same category "mobile", Outlook doesn't, so when you try to enter multiple mobile phones to Outlook contact - you discover that it can't be done). Maybe in this respect it's also different - Outlook-derived contacts might allow editing Birthday while Google contacts don't (not from the phone).
And since I'm running Eclair (CM5.0.7.1), I'm not sure what's going on with Gmail contacts on Froyo.
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That could be a little annoying, I wonder, does that mean if I have a contact John Doe, and I have him in Outlook and GMail, he will appear twice? Maybe I just will not sync with Outlook but the thought of having to type in my 100+ contact list with multiple numbers, emails, etc. make me shudder....
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That's for seeing birthdays on calendar: snipped
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Actually, I already knew about the Google Calendar, I just didn't think of applying it on the phone! Thanks for the information!
Had to delete the URL because I guess new users are not allowed to post them.
EDIT: I just want to put it out there that you guys have been EXTREMELY helpful. I love helpful communities. Makes me feel welcome.
watercool said:
ok, understood now. There IS a field but you can not edit it...
I am quite sure codesplice is referring to a field where i can type in a birthday.. not just see it.
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Yes, I see your point. That option, unfortunately, is missing (what would be the reason for it - escapes me, really, they already have a field and it syncs, it's VERY weird that it can't be edited). I'm a bit puzzled that I didn't even see it missing until I tried to change it, being asked in this thread Sorry if I mislead you.
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That could be a little annoying, I wonder, does that mean if I have a contact John Doe, and I have him in Outlook and GMail, he will appear twice? Maybe I just will not sync with Outlook but the thought of having to type in my 100+ contact list with multiple numbers, emails, etc. make me shudder....
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If I remember right from playing with Froyo, it also merges contacts based on name, and you'll see one contact with data from both places. If you'll try to edit, though - you'll have to choose, what contact to edit.
You also have options to import contacts from Outlook to Gmail, or to have them sync-ed between Outlook and Gmail by some free SW (one of the pre-Froyo solutions for Outlook contacts).
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If I remember right from playing with Froyo, it also merges contacts based on name, and you'll see one contact with data from both places. If you'll try to edit, though - you'll have to choose, what contact to edit.
You also have options to import contacts from Outlook to Gmail, or to have them sync-ed between Outlook and Gmail by some free SW (one of the pre-Froyo solutions for Outlook contacts).
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Yup. The phone will bring in contacts from all your synced accounts (google, facebook, outlook, twitter, whatever) and merge them based on name. You can then manually correlate any contacts that didn't do it automatically ([email protected] is also Jane Doe).