Chinese iphone clone - Off-topic

Hi!
I just got a phone bought in Dubai, that appears to be a iphone clone. The problem however is that i can't figure out which one this is. I've tride to open the phone, read trough the manual, tried MyPhoneExplorer in help of identifing it, with no luck.
Does anyone have any idea about some tools, something to figure this out? I can't even figure out which OS its running.
Yeah, im a newbie.
Thanks in advance.

Welcome to forums
This is an HTC devices only forum, hope someone can point you to the right place but do not expect too much as apart from not being HTC also is a copy
Good luck,

Thanks for your reply
True, i also have a touch diamond, thats why i love this place =)
just threw in a longshot in hope of someone having the knowledge of some tools or any advice at all regarding this strange device.

well what comes up when you plug the phone into your computer? (i'm assuming you have an appropriate cable).

I have several choices i.e mass storage etc, but the COM connection displays as a "MTK6255" which my OS (win7) dont recognize.

MTK6255 is the platform on your phone.
Try using the MTK driver from here:
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=540559

might be a meizu m8...i have one

Don't think so. The M8 runs on Windows CE platform as described here:
http://www.techtickerblog.com/2009/02/09/meizu-m8-review/

i think i just found your phone here:
http://www.downtownkey.com/hiphone-3g-music-cell-phone-support-mp3mp4-bluetooth_p7403.html
Note the CPU.

SciPhone?
It might be a SciPhone.
This guy put together a review of a lot of the iPhone clones: http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/Sciphone-i68.html.
There is a forum for SciPhones, http://www.mysciphone.com/English_Sciphone_Forum/index.php. I'd check that out too.
The MTK processors are really, really, really slow and do not run Windows Mobile.
I have a CiPhone C5, which runs on a 450MhZ Samsung Processor with Windows Mobile 6.1 OS. Much better than any of the phones you'll find at mysciphone.com. xda-developers.com has been amazing for learning how to use and modify my phone.

Welcome to the forum
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Please guys!
Do not buy copies, they are cheap, bad quality and not long lasting
Buy the original stuff!

Thanks so much for replys guys, really appreciate it.
For the Sciphone i68-3G, its identical in looks, but i dont have any 3,5mm Jack
Whereas to the hiphone, I found this:
"How to find HiPhone firmware version
Call #*44673#1# and press "version info". You should now see the firmware version of your HiPhone."
Which dont work for me...
thesecondsfade: Is the MTK processor really that sucky? I really dont think i will be using this phone anyways, but I really just want to explore and learn as much as i can. But if it is that crap, i guess i cant do anything
I may have forgotten to mention that i found somewhere in the manual where it stated "mini iphoen" "mini iphone". -But aint so mini imo..

orb3000 said:
Welcome to the forum
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Thanks . It's been so helpful for me so far.
orb3000 said:
Please guys!
Do not buy copies, they are cheap, bad quality and not long lasting
Buy the original stuff!
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I know it's probably not as high quality as some of the other retail phones available on long data/phone contracts with the US cell phone companies, but I just can't afford that. I really wanted a new Windows Mobile phone without having to sign up for an expensive plan to get it... so I bought the CiPhone C5. I did a lot of research before buying it.

tiddylicious said:
Thanks so much for replys guys, really appreciate it.
For the Sciphone i68-3G, its identical in looks, but i dont have any 3,5mm Jack
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It's probably the i68+, not the i68+3G. The 3G model has the 3.5mm jack, the i68+ doesn't.
tiddylicious said:
Whereas to the hiphone, I found this:
"How to find HiPhone firmware version
Call #*44673#1# and press "version info". You should now see the firmware version of your HiPhone."
Which dont work for me...
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Try putting *#8375# into the dialer.
tiddylicious said:
thesecondsfade: Is the MTK processor really that sucky? I really dont think i will be using this phone anyways, but I really just want to explore and learn as much as i can.
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I had one for about a month and it was too slow for my tastes. The firmware was flawed as well. There is a website you can upgrade your firmware, but that'll cost you another $40 bucks or so... probably not worth it but you can decide that for yourself.
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But if it is that crap, i guess i cant do anything
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You can sell it on eBay
tiddylicious said:
I may have forgotten to mention that i found somewhere in the manual where it stated "mini iphoen" "mini iphone". -But aint so mini imo..
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The Chinese clones are known to be sketchy when it comes to their manuals... or even in their descriptions of what they're selling. Most sellers just try to say whatever they can to sell the phones without really knowing what exactly they're selling.

Try putting *#8375# into the dialer.
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Didnt work.
I guess ill sell this and buy the proper phone, HTC Hero

The only other dail code I know for the clones is *#433943#.

this works
*#11*# gives you the software version

that post... are you serious? Cause I would understand if it wasn't intentional... but...
that's just pure fail, in all it's beauty.
FAIL
FAAAAIL

Hi,
I bought a Chinese phone, a clone of the Blackberry HS 9500 I think (looks like the Blockberry 9500 clone) and it has the Engrish manual as you might expect.
Given that I set my aims before purchase (I wanted a cheap dual SIM and not much else besides a media player, basic camera, bluetooth … couldn't care less about the TV/FM and so on) and, it isn't bad but the media player is fairly rubbish inasmuch as I have no idea how to get it to play a track (pref. a series of tracks).
A colleague, though, intrigued me with talk of alternate OS's for phones and given that its OS is by far the worst part of the phone (not bad but not good either) I wondered if cheap phones of this kind can be given a new OS and, if so, how I go about it?
Thx for any advice
Keke

I bought mine from Bigboxstores and within a week it had a dead pixel on screen. I emailed them and said I was returning it for a refund. I packaged it exactly as it was received and it was in mint condition. A whole month went by and I kept emailing them and asking if they had it, eventually they said they did and were checking it. I eventually got an email saying 'sorry no refund, phone works fine, has a few marks on it, thank you'.
No offer to exchange it or anything. I have resigned myself to the fact I have lost my money. Such terrible customer service and using a pony excuse to avoid refunding me. It's not like I'm gonna travel to China to get my money back.
My advice is steer clear of copies and do NOT buy from Bigboxstores as if there is problem with your phone, you will NOT get your money back.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

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Rom Upgrades MDA Vario

Hi all,
I have been reading alot about the comments every one seems to making regarding the MDA Vario (unlocking or rom upgrading)
I have the latest unlocking including (CID) and i also have the latest upgrades too.
These are the full updated versions which will also change the country settings from other countrys to the full english version.
If required you can buy the cd's off me for a small price via paypal which will include full instructions with the unlocking software and upgrades, which all work 100% as i have done 14 so far with no problems.
This software will NOT change youe imei as it is against the law to do so.
you can pay me via paypal and leave your address in the comments section of your payment > £5.00 to [email protected] <
I hope this will help out some of you with problems.
Regards to all,
Jerry
What da f**k is this? Are you trying make money with the hard work of the genious of this forum?
GO AWAY. tHIS SITE IS NOT FOR YOU!!!
just too lame for words
dcoelho said:
What da f**k is this? Are you trying make money with the hard work of the genious of this forum?
GO AWAY. tHIS SITE IS NOT FOR YOU!!!
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I think you have a problem, i will post what i want i have forgoten more then you will ever know about mobile communications i have spent the last 27yrs in the communication world, i have worked for motorola, phillips , nokia, in hitech deparments.
You are more then welcome to visit my company here in the united kingdom so you can take it any way you want to, but think what you say before you engadge your mouth with your brain.
We also devolope software and hardware for the mobile world, and some ones software dont work we then fixit or recomend it not to be used at no cost you see we also do things for free.
So what have you to offer then! apart from rude comments which just shows to me your stupidity.
We welcome all genuine comments and we do reply to all emails here at
JKS Communications
So who are you! what do you know about cellular equipment proberly nothing i guess so why dont you keep reading your comics and leave those alone who know what they are doing.
For what i am offering as a sevice has abserlutly nothing to do with you so keep it out.
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And your comments to lame for words is this a adult site or is it run by kids!
If your comment wasent aimed at me then sorry for the reply, but if it is then it is no concern of yours if you want the software with a backup service then please ask.
There are people on this forum who are have bad problems with this type of equipment and paying a small charge for what is offered is really to cheap but we at JKS Communications are not to greedy as we have tested and tested again to make sure that every thing we sell is 100% because i can assure that alot of the upgrades and unlocking software isnt safe to use.
If you know anthing about mobile communications you would know this, i have 5 tech guys who work for me full time as we cover most makes on the market and currently have around 400+gig of firmware/software going back to the early tac units all the way to the present day also we have the latest equipment around which run into thousends of pounds, 27yrs i have been in the mobile communications world so i know what i am talking about.
Like i said at the start if your comment wasent directed to me then i apologise for the comments i have made.
And if it was then you are not interested in what i can offer then keep your comments to yourself please.
Regards,
Jerry (JKS Communications)
I just think it's funny that you came to a self help site, phishing for business. lol What's even funnier is, I bet everything on the CD is something that's found right in the forums. Even if it may not be the same things, it's probably something similar.
Mi|enko said:
I just think it's funny that you came to a self help site, phishing for business. lol What's even funnier is, I bet everything on the CD is something that's found right in the forums. Even if it may not be the same things, it's probably something similar.
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Hi,
Maybe so that most thing can be found on the internet but do they do what is claimed most dont.
And as fishing for business as you put it how can offering a service to help out those to who have tried out various software and are still having problems with phone's pda's ect which have a street price of around £375.
It seems to me that some find my offer affends if that is the case i will withdraw what i am offering and put the offer on my own website we just thought it would help out as most of the links are dead one's, and some of the programes offered for free are hacked and they do damage to your phone when used we know this as we have a lot of software that we have download for free and it is a waste of time.
As for the software being free on the net which is on the cd well the unlocking programe is and works 100% every time, but the main files for upgrading cost us money one of the files is a full version in english the latest microsoft windows v5 please tell me where i can download that for free not the simple rom update but the full Os system!.
Regards,
Jerry
Rippers !
A tipical ripper, this "company" JKS or whatever fancy name they choose.
Let's not get bothered by them
Maybe they even find some dumbo using their ripping service
Tough luck for the dumbos
Cheers
hrb
hrb said:
A tipical ripper, this "company" JKS or whatever fancy name they choose.
Let's not get bothered by them
Maybe they even find some dumbo using their ripping service
Tough luck for the dumbos
Cheers
hrb
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Well this is the funiest yet, how can you call me a ripper? and it isnt a fancy name eather it was formed in 1987 proberly older then you currently are, you dont live in this country according to your details and i can't see how you can pass comment when you have no idear to what you are talkin about you are a class 1 PRATT just go back to school.
Any way you also talk about " Let's not get bothered by them" well it seems to me that you are bothered if you dont want to have any of our services and what we can stand by, them MIND UR F * * K I N G BUSINESS
Have a nice day!
It's very sad to see that some nitwit takes free software from this site and tries to sell it. We see too many fricking a-holes on ebay doing the same thing.
someone will buy the cd that he claims can do most things that we cant and then post here......and the funny thing is the person will claim that he found how to this and that.
Same here to you!
GO AWAY. tHIS SITE IS NOT FOR YOU!!!
JKS_COMMS said:
Well this is the funiest yet, how can you call me a ripper? and it isnt a fancy name eather it was formed in 1987 proberly older then you currently are, you dont live in this country according to your details and i can't see how you can pass comment when you have no idear to what you are talkin about you are a class 1 PRATT just go back to school.
Any way you also talk about " Let's not get bothered by them" well it seems to me that you are bothered if you dont want to have any of our services and what we can stand by, them MIND UR F * * K I N G BUSINESS
Have a nice day!
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I don't think I could buy software from a person that uses the words "proberly" and "idear". . . Who's he think he is, telling others to "go back to school"? lol
igadgetman said:
It's very sad to see that some nitwit takes free software from this site and tries to sell it. We see too many fricking a-holes on ebay doing the same thing.
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Take a run and jump son, the software is not free if it was then i would offer it for free there is no problem there, So please tell me then know it all where i can get a 100% geuine version of windows ver 5 with the latest update for free!!! with a installation serial number.
I look forward to hearing from you!!!
JKS_COMMS said:
Take a run and jump son, the software is not free if it was then i would offer it for free there is no problem there, So please tell me then know it all where i can get a 100% geuine version of windows ver 5 with the latest update for free!!! with a installation serial number.
I look forward to hearing from you!!!
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The only thing with that is, anybody in this section of the forum already has WM5 preinstalled on their device. And we can just strip out whatever we don't want installed. I'm failing to see the benefit of anybody in the "Wizard" area of the forums buying WM5 from you. By the way, I'd also like to point out that normally, in any business, there's always some kind of customer service and professionalism. You may want to do some research into that. I know that, from most of my experiences, if you have a problem, the company gives you sympathy. If you disagree with a policy, most companies would at the very least apologize about the way things are. You, my friend, act as a douche for your company. Only, in this instance, you're flushing out business. ~sniff~ Ah, the smell of vinegar in the night air. . .
JKS_COMMS said:
Take a run and jump son, the software is not free if it was then i would offer it for free there is no problem there, So please tell me then know it all where i can get a 100% geuine version of windows ver 5 with the latest update for free!!! with a installation serial number.
I look forward to hearing from you!!!
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it spells "genuine", not "geuine"
So: back to school, ripper !
So JKS_COMMS, where exactly are you based ?
USA ? (Your Flag)
Albania ? (Your Provider)
UK - (Your e-mail Address is btinternet.com)
How long has your "company" been in operation ?
Are you UK VAT Registered ?
Is any of the software on the CD copyrighted / GNU licence etc ?
Also your a very new user here on xda-developers (under JKS_COMMS you only reg'd on 21-10-2006), only 6 posts (all of these in this thread) I doubt anyone is going to take you seriously.
Got to say this all sounds a bit fishy to me, do you really think ANYONE here with half a brain will send you a fiver - sounds like a bit of a scam to me so maybe this thread needs reporting to a MOD.
Filnet
igadgetman said:
It's very sad to see that some nitwit takes free software from this site and tries to sell it. We see too many fricking a-holes on ebay doing the same thing.
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What a pratt,
The software i hve didnt come from this site nor ebay as i dont have an account.
You are such a plank i can see now this forum has got A holes in it and plenty of them who can always pass comment well you can shove it, i got the software it's 100% perfect and works great but thanks to you bunch of upstarts who like to see other members suffer as the software you find on the net isnt that good thats why it is free.
All mine is 100% genuine
have a good one looser
filnet said:
So JKS_COMMS, where exactly are you based ?
USA ? (Your Flag)
Albania ? (Your Provider)
UK - (Your e-mail Address is btinternet.com)
How long has your "company" been in operation ?
Are you UK VAT Registered ?
Is any of the software on the CD copyrighted / GNU licence etc ?
Also your a very new user here on xda-developers (under JKS_COMMS you only reg'd on 21-10-2006), only 6 posts (all of these in this thread) I doubt anyone is going to take you seriously.
Got to say this all sounds a bit fishy to me, do you really think ANYONE here with half a brain will send you a fiver - sounds like a bit of a scam to me so maybe this thread needs reporting to a MOD.
Filnet
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Hi,
there is nothing fishy here all my software is 100% i had to pay for it which was more then a fiver, so i thought i would help some one out on here with support to help them get there mda sorted and running 100% so i didnt think it was to much to ask, but as you can see it is wrong of me to offer this software at this price so i wont it do not bother me.
Have a good one.
for someone with the vocabulary of a 9 year old, he sure does seem confident in his ability to produce working software. As for wm5 being pad for, it does NOT require a cdkey. OEM's that resell it sometimes (I have heard of one) that has added a cdkey to it to it and it was compared to a hardware id. As for a place you can find a full wm5..... everywhere?

AT&t tilt is all I thought and more

You guys will have the chance very soon to purchase this great devive and you will absolutely love it.
ok grandma
How much did U pay for that tilt? And what do U like most about it? Did U have a Hermes before it?
hermes
Ive had the 2125, 3125, 8125, 8525 actually I was choosen because of my data knowledge and it is for company official use and I am probably going to buy one as well. and thanks for the grandma post I just figured I would let everyone know to be prepared.
tilt
And it was a promotional gift and actually, the thing I like about it is the performance of the dual processor which makes the multitasking amazing. The other thing is the gps is awesome it is something that will make your head spin. Camera quality is also nice and with 3g its a beast and with the network enhancement coming soon it will be a phone to contend with.
buffalosolja42 said:
And it was a promotional gift and actually, the thing I like about it is the performance of the dual processor which makes the multitasking amazing. The other thing is the gps is awesome it is something that will make your head spin. Camera quality is also nice and with 3g its a beast and with the network enhancement coming soon it will be a phone to contend with.
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**Cough** Dual processor...?????
dual
yes it all
heres a nice little pdf with info on the processor for those interested. http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/msm7200_chipset.pdf
buffalosolja42 said:
And it was a promotional gift and actually, the thing I like about it is the performance of the dual processor which makes the multitasking amazing. The other thing is the gps is awesome it is something that will make your head spin. Camera quality is also nice and with 3g its a beast and with the network enhancement coming soon it will be a phone to contend with.
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Network enhancment ?? are you referring to faste HSPDA?
What could be so nice about an integrated GPS chip that will make our heads "spin" ?
In my opinion integrated GPS, means I don't have to carry an extra gadget
with me... that's it.
kind of a stretch to call it a "dual core" processor
i think it would be more accurate to say it's got one processor for the windows mobile side, and one processor for the radio side
DLD
buffalosolja42 said:
You guys will have the chance very soon to purchase this great devive and you will absolutely love it.
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Wow... that was insightful. I don't mean to be a jerk, but you realize that the Tilt is a crippled version of the Kaiser (4550) and they've been out for a while. Unless you have something to offer like an official release date or what it has that the Kaiser doesn't, this thread may as well be closed. We *ALL* already know what the Kaiser is and what the Tilt lacks.
-Mc
RacerX10 said:
kind of a stretch to call it a "dual core" processor
i think it would be more accurate to say it's got one processor for the windows mobile side, and one processor for the radio side
DLD
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Yeah. It would be best to describe it as a "radio coprocessor".
It will probably result in zero improvement if not transferring data, very little if you're on an EDGE network. Probably the only situation one would notice any significant difference would be HSDPA.
No i noticed better performance all around from the radio after getting my Kaiser it makes the web load faster and emails send quicker! this should have been done in the hermes! I wuld say web pages load twice as fast! It almost feels like HSUPA has already been rolled out here in NYC with how fast this thing uploadeds.
McHale said:
Wow... that was insightful. I don't mean to be a jerk, but you realize that the Tilt is a crippled version of the Kaiser (4550) and they've been out for a while. Unless you have something to offer like an official release date or what it has that the Kaiser doesn't, this thread may as well be closed. We *ALL* already know what the Kaiser is and what the Tilt lacks.
-Mc
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That is why he originally posted this in the Hermes Forum thinking no one would move it to the kaiser section. Whoops time to post it in the Nokia section maybe you can impress someone there.....
d
dwella said:
That is why he originally posted this in the Hermes Forum thinking no one would move it to the kaiser section. Whoops time to post it in the Nokia section maybe you can impress someone there.....
d
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Geez, maybe we should have a public flogging for this guy LOL. "The thread is titled "at&t tilt is all I thought and more" considering hes the first to get one that I have heard of I am glad to hear some things confirmed such as gps. I for one appreciate his posting some feedback on a device we with at&t are waiting for. Im simply saying give the guy a break and let him enjoy his new phone.
Your probably right Sw but if you look at some of his other posts he claims to be an Att mgr but he bought an 8525 and than bought a Rom off ebay than asked how to include Ptt in the Rom so he could tell the office the next day. So maybe thats the way AT&T works but I kind of doubt it. So there lies my skeptisism.
d
released roms
Roms in any company are not released to all in the company until tech support runs them on a trial basis. If you purchase your on device you can change the roms as you see fit, otherwise the one the company gives you is for company use. Read the part.. I just thought I would tell everyone that it is coming out because I like this site. You guys are treating me like I am misinforming you due to any company policy it is not in anybody's interest to release other details. I have a family to take care of telling all about it could jepardize my job. If I knew that I would get this response I would have never posted. Well I hope whenever you get one to all those complaining that you enjoy it and as far as the dual processor goes that is the way it was positioned to us. And for your knowledge point of view I have a bs in CIS/Math if I had time I would right my own roms, hacks, etc. But when you have kids other things come to mind. And as I said I use this sight for a reference I don't have THE TIME to right and test my own roms. Thanks for making a new guy feel welcome though. (Sorry about the spelling wasn't happy with reads on the post) But when it comes down to it I still have a tilt
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Your probably right Sw but if you look at some of his other posts he claims to be an Att mgr but he bought an 8525 and than bought a Rom off ebay than asked how to include Ptt in the Rom so he could tell the office the next day. So maybe thats the way AT&T works but I kind of doubt it. So there lies my skeptisism.
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roms arent available to everyone in the company... well they are, but you have to be smart enough to know where to find them... chances are that 99% of att wireless employees dont know where to find the pre-public roms.. they arent beta, but their not public either.. and even being a manager doesnt mean you get your phones for free, hell employees deals arent all that great..
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You guys will have the chance very soon to purchase this great devive and you will absolutely love it.
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Thank you, but can you tell us(or me) if the GPS is locked to using only a specific software or can it be used by any navigation software i.e. Tom Tom?

Poor performance

I am really struggling with this phone!
Yes it looks great.. and the 3d touch flo looks great.
But the blo*dy thing is crap at doing what it is designed for... being a phone.
When trying to get it going after it has been sleeping it can take an age... totally unresponsive...
I need a phone to work properly and not just sit there and look shiny!
I have added the enhancements and am using the Elite 2.0 rom..
Cheers
the problem with TF3D disable it
or
upgrade to latest rom
Blimey last poster you really don't read things before you post your sharp responses do you?! That's at least two from you today. Seems to be quite the habit on this forum which is depressing for a new person on the block (like me).
At original poster, if what I think you mean is you want to use it to call straight away after waking it up - I share your frustration. It does seem to take a while before I can get it to call out after sleeping and I've used HTC, Elite and TLR roms and it's all the same for me.
What network are you on maybe that has something to do with it - I'm T-Mob.
another useless, whiner thread...
what's the question? now we know that u r not satisfied with the diamond. now what? what's the drama? send it back for a refund.
this is not a wall to graffiti slogans and complains.
Blimey last poster you really don't read things before you post your sharp responses do you?! That's at least two from you today. Seems to be quite the habit on this forum which is depressing for a new person on the block (like me).
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the answer fits the post like a glove....post something like the above and you'll get an answer like the above. i wonder why bother to answer? to what?
KukurikU said:
another useless, whiner thread...
what's the question? now we know that u r not satisfied with the diamond. now what? what's the drama? send it back for a refund.
this is not a wall to graffiti slogans and complains.
the answer fits the post like a glove....post something like the above and you'll get an answer like the above. i wonder why bother to answer? to what?
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What you see as useless other see as interesting and usefull.
I am thinking of buying this phone as i'm fed up with waiting for the i900 Omnia and this thread has been usefull. Now, thanks to reading this thread I am warned about slow "wake-up" of the Diamond and now more hesitant, almost to the point of not buying it.
Sadly though, you seem to judge everyone else by your own standards.
Ericsson68 was indeed trying to be helpfull by two things:
1; confirming that he too has a slow "wake-up" e.g its not he op's phone itself
2; Offering a possible explanation "What network are you on maybe that has something to do with it - I'm T-Mob. "
No one is forcing you to read these posts and no one is forcing you to write a pointless reply. It is often said by wise people (and those with friends!), if you have nothing constructive so say, don't say it.
So Erricsson and TrevorM, thanks guys! You've highlighted to me that this phone may have an issue, even with the latest roms applied, in that its slow to wake up. This is EXACTLY the reason i'm here along with many others!
KukurikU said:
another useless, whiner thread...
what's the question? now we know that u r not satisfied with the diamond. now what? what's the drama? send it back for a refund.
this is not a wall to graffiti slogans and complains.
the answer fits the post like a glove....post something like the above and you'll get an answer like the above. i wonder why bother to answer? to what?
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Dude listen the way i see it is that if you havent got anything useful to say or post then refrain from doing so. People are going to complain no matter what you or anyone else says. Like Monty says people have different ideas as to what is good for them and what isnt...fact of the matter is everytime i see you post...your always having a pop at someone who asks a question or slates the phone. Do you actually own HTC??...because sometimes your posts come across as a HTC fanboy...so what if people are saying the phone is useless/rubbish.
I'll say this about the Diamond, i love it but its hard work getting everything to run as you want it to. Personally HTC have alot to answer for, their QC testing is quite frankly crap and rubbish. They were in such a hurry to get this phone out...it seems like their engineers/designers fell asleep for a few months. The stock rom has too many niggles and problems with it, thankfully we have a place like this where we have some excellent guys who are making the Diamond a more enjoyable product due to their new roms. I swear if places like this didnt exist...HTC wouldnt be in business for much longer.
With regards to the OP, as i said before the phone is hard work...sometimes i struggle to do anything with it but i still love it. Perhaps try the TLR rom...its much faster and seems more smoother. AS for the sleeping issue??...it does take a few secs to get it back up and running but i can live with that...its not like it takes forever...well mine doesnt feel like that.
Monty Burns said:
What you see as useless other see as interesting and usefull.
I am thinking of buying this phone as i'm fed up with waiting for the i900 Omnia and this thread has been usefull. Now, thanks to reading this thread I am warned about slow "wake-up" of the Diamond and now more hesitant, almost to the point of not buying it.
Sadly though, you seem to judge everyone else by your own standards.
Ericsson68 was indeed trying to be helpfull by two things:
1; confirming that he too has a slow "wake-up" e.g its not he op's phone itself
2; Offering a possible explanation "What network are you on maybe that has something to do with it - I'm T-Mob. "
No one is forcing you to read these posts and no one is forcing you to write a pointless reply. It is often said by wise people (and those with friends!), if you have nothing constructive so say, don't say it.
So Erricsson and TrevorM, thanks guys! You've highlighted to me that this phone may have an issue, even with the latest roms applied, in that its slow to wake up. This is EXACTLY the reason i'm here along with many others!
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i gave you a hint. you didn't get it. keep on spamming.
Since when is the forum becoming a customer review of phones ?
I see already a thousand threads about the things that the Diamond does not fulfill. If you start reading them it is amazing what people whine about! "My phone does not react instantly after waking up", "My phone does not go to vibrate when I flip ip when it rings", "my phone is not the chickmagnet HTC promised it to be, I stil do not have a girlfriend" ...
So you use the title "poor performance" and then that is your strongest statement to back this up ??? nice one mate!
@Monty
Buy the phone, play with it, use it and then decide! What other people think might not always apply to you. I do not even have much issues with the battery.
If your want your phone to fly you to the bahamas then I suggest you buy yourself a plane.
This is at this moment the best phone you can buy! no doubt about it, I had the iphone for a week and then got this one. Now I only use the iphone for cutting bread on!
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This is at this moment the best phone you can buy! no doubt about it, I had the iphone for a week and then got this one. Now I only use the iphone for cutting bread on!
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OMFG iphone can cut bread!!111
Kukuirukuwuay: 1 post is hardly spamming and tbh, if thats the best most informed response you can come up ... you should maybe try the American "whatever", at least that has comedy value.
MisterSosa, it does have reviews of it and so what? Peoples(Owners reviews) and more importantly, there day-to-day comments and experiences are vital. Its these bug reports/issues/compliments/"wow look at this feature" posts that help some people decide and whats wrong with that? Like it or not HTC does not make perfect gear, if it did, there would be no need for this site. The bugs people discuss on here are read by the people who create ROM's and sometimes fixed by them. TBH, I wouldn't be suprised if there are HTC developers on this site everyday. I certainly know that Toshiba devs monitor myg900.com
I do agree with you 100% that people see phones diferently and whilst it works for one, it won't work for another. That said, to be "the best phone you can buy!" would take some doo'ing! My experience with HTC hardware (not software) is that this is unlikely to be the case purely on reliability, 10 months down the road it will probably develope hardware failures just like my previous 3 HTC phones (and that doesn't include the factory replacements). Also, "best" depends entirley on your needs. I'm still tempted to wait for the Omni as it will have a 5mp camera built in to it, something that doesn't seem to of sunk into HTC yet! Not to say I won't buy this, I like the form factor and the screen res (im used to 800x480 so this would only be a small downgrade).
However, I now consign myself to the fact that HTC phones only last at most a year and IF I buy this, it will be with that in mind.
This site in particular and similar sites do indeed help people choose there next phone - assuming they are informed enough to look for sites like this and even the OP's post is usefull. Read into it his frustration: Can you not see that his post is actually a complement? It says to me that the OP thinks its an awesome phone .... except this one really minor but pain in the arse thing, the wake-up delay.
Yes your right, i could buy it and then send it back if I don't like it (assuming the shop are going to allow me, they don't have to) but how many times am I going to do that before I get told to get stuffed by the shop(s)? Also, I may also not discover everything I need to about the phone in the two weeks, usualy accepted by shops here in the uk, that I need to and then i maybe stuffed with a phone I don't want.
This site in particular and similar sites do indeed help people choose there next phone
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wrong! this is a developer site like in:http://forum.xda-developers.com
maybe at "similar" sites you''lfind the help u need
KukurikU said:
wrong! this is a developer site like in:http://forum.xda-developers.com
maybe at "similar" sites you''lfind the help u need
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Completely and utterly wrong...this is a forum, it may very well be a developer forum but as of yet i havent heard any of the moderators in here say that we cannot give any opinions/views on what we think of the phone.
Crikey!!!
Didn't expect this kind of response.
Maybe it is useful for the DEVELOPERS to know how things are working (good or not)??
I have had any number of phones over the years - WinMo HTC, non HTC, Symbian etc. and this is the first one that I am really struggling with.
It is correct to say that it is hard work to get the equipment operating smoothly. The problem I have with that is, even after applying improved ROMS, performance enhancements, registry tweeks etc. the basic function is simply not working correctly. Why does it take so long for the phone to become ready for use?
Maybe a vanilla ROM will improve things, but then again I am left with a shiny shell which is a good phone (I may as well buy a cheap nokia!!).
I would be interested to know if other Diamond users are experiencing terrible lag, long delays and unresponsiveness..
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mobile not used for 3 hours, was lying on my desk.
press power button slide from all programs to home tab, press the phone button ... pops up immediately, dial colleague number and its dialing.
Where is the lag/delay in this story ?
ever try to close the running applications since the first time you turned it on ?
Thanks ... what ROM are you using - which enhancements have you applied?
Cheers
@MisterSosa and KukurikU
You might not be experiencing it... some are.
If you haven't got any constructive help to add why not go and join another thread? You're not being forced to read our comments but we are unfairly being forced to read yours in a thread that we want to add our experiences to in a calm and collected way.
Now kindly leave the thread so that we can DEVELOP a solution to what some of us see as a problem.
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mobile not used for 3 hours, was lying on my desk.
press power button slide from all programs to home tab, press the phone button ... pops up immediately, dial colleague number and its dialing.
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Same here
Monty Burns said:
My experience with HTC hardware (not software) is that this is unlikely to be the case purely on reliability, 10 months down the road it will probably develope hardware failures just like my previous 3 HTC phones (and that doesn't include the factory replacements).
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Sorry to hear that Monty, as you can see by my signature I have owned all manor of HTC phones and i havent had to send most of them back (admittidley the C500 had to have the rocker stick repaired on mine and my girlfriends phone but I dealt with HTC direct as orange didnt want to know and HTC were very helpful and within 5 days I had the phone back)
I don't suffer from the lag that a few people in this thread are mentioning.
Ive got a WWE Touch Diamond with Rom Version 1.37.405.1 WWE, ROM Date: 06/10/08 Radio Version 1.00.25.03 and im on tmobile UK. My TouchFLO 3D version is 1.0.1630.23.
Ive NOT applied ANY tweaks to my phone at all, no registry edits, hacks or Rom updates and my phone works without lag when trying to make a phone call.
How long does your take, in secs, from when you have pressed the power button at the top to wake the phone up to when you press the Phone button (the left phone softkey?)
Where do you experience the problem? Do you find its when you use TouchFLO 3D? Or can you goto ALL PEOPLE from the PEOPLE TAB on TouchFLO 3D and its still laggy?
Sorry to hear your having problems guys but this forum is here to help you.
Thanks .. I see you are using an uncooked rom. Have you applied any of the registry tweeks etc.?
Cheers
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Same here
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Same here.
Only time I've see a delay in opening the phone app so far (3 weeks) was when I received a phone call AND a txt msg almost simultaneously...just as I was trying to copy/paste some info from Opera into a reply to a previous txt msg.
DT

sell my kaiser for an IPhone

So what do you think guys..Would it be wise for me to sell my kaiser over an IPhone? If not, please argue your response. I know this is a Windows Mobile thread, but I guess you can give me some objective answers.
Btw, if someone passed from IPhone to Kaiser or similar WinMob phone, I'd be very interested to hear from because I heard lots of users passing to IPhone but not the other way around.
Thanks!
matrix.has.neo said:
Btw, if someone passed from IPhone to Kaiser or similar WinMob phone, I'd be very interested to hear from because I heard lots of users passing to IPhone but not the other way around.
Thanks!
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I did exactly that, I had the Hermes (Cingular's 8525) and used this forum and ROMs from here and I thought all was great but I got into the hype and waited in line on opening day and got the Iph0ne (1st Gen)...
I used it for about a year (a little more) and well just got tired of it for me and my needs... Now I have the Kaiser (tilt) and I am not missing the Iph0ne.
Answering your question requires more information.
It entirely depends on what you use your phone for.
I find that having the full, hardware keyboard makes email, note taking, and appointment management much easier than on an iPhone.
So, what do you use your phone for?
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So what do you think guys..Would it be wise for me to sell my kaiser over an IPhone? If not, please argue your response. I know this is a Windows Mobile thread, but I guess you can give me some objective answers.
Btw, if someone passed from IPhone to Kaiser or similar WinMob phone, I'd be very interested to hear from because I heard lots of users passing to IPhone but not the other way around.
Thanks!
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you joined just to post that?
matrix.has.neo said:
So what do you think guys..Would it be wise for me to sell my kaiser over an IPhone? If not, please argue your response. I know this is a Windows Mobile thread, but I guess you can give me some objective answers.
Btw, if someone passed from IPhone to Kaiser or similar WinMob phone, I'd be very interested to hear from because I heard lots of users passing to IPhone but not the other way around.
Thanks!
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Trolling again ? Seriously ? And we give a crap why ?
matrix.has.neo said:
So what do you think guys..Would it be wise for me to sell my kaiser over an IPhone? If not, please argue your response. I know this is a Windows Mobile thread, but I guess you can give me some objective answers.
Btw, if someone passed from IPhone to Kaiser or similar WinMob phone, I'd be very interested to hear from because I heard lots of users passing to IPhone but not the other way around.
Thanks!
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Yes... You should sell it for money twards an iPhone.. More specifically, you should sell it to me... for $50....

Ativ S donwload mode

Hi, i'd like to put my dear new ativ S in download mode to install a general firmware(follwed the instruction here: http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f20...set-tutorial-firmware-flashing-guide-1671518/)
the problem is that i can't seem to make the pc able to find the phone in download mode. i tried 3-4 drivers without success. Can anyone help me?
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Hi, i'd like to put my dear new ativ S in download mode to install a general firmware(follwed the instruction here: http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f20...set-tutorial-firmware-flashing-guide-1671518/)
the problem is that i can't seem to make the pc able to find the phone in download mode. i tried 3-4 drivers without success. Can anyone help me?
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Install drivers as it explain to the link
http://clubsg.skygolf.com/content/f...10-Windows_8_Installing_unsigned_drivers.html
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Install drivers as it explain to the link
http://clubsg.skygolf.com/content/f...10-Windows_8_Installing_unsigned_drivers.html
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it seems it didn't work for me.. USB\VID_045E&PID_062B&REV_0000..
i'm gonna try virtualbox, maybe i'll have more luck.(currently i have Windows 8.1 rtm pro x64 only and Linux)
The problem is that i'm stuck with a not for resale phone by Tim. No updates and strange bugs( like, won't memorize the date between reboots)
Ok, now the program sees it under Windows 7 x86... but it says engineer, and returns an error(gonna past in a sec)
[Channel 0] Device Security Version does not Match !![Channel 0] Binary Download complete!!
this is the error.
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I don't know for sure but your phone might have an engineering ROM on it at the moment, so only engineering ROMs can be flashed.
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I don't know for sure but your phone might have an engineering ROM on it at the moment, so only engineering ROMs can be flashed.
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yep, but i might have outsmarted them.. we simply need to repack the rom without signin/secureboot
Hi All
Sorry if this is a silly question but I thought all WP8 updates and Ativ S were done OTA and we didn't need to start flashing Roms like we do for SGS3.
My Ativ S says its on version 8.0.10327.77, isn't this GDR2, Am I missing something?
Thanks
Yep.i have a completely unlocked Developer Version. Secureboot is disabled an such
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May I ask what this implies an advantage? Can I install xap and edit registry like as Samsung Omnia 7?
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May I ask what this implies an advantage? Can I install xap and edit registry like as Samsung Omnia 7?
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you can't buy one. I happened to stumble into one, and i'm trying to do everything i can to bring it back to normal, since the phone won't update itself.
If I may suggest, there are people on this site who could do far more useful things with a phone like that. Heathcliff74, for example, is working on a root-unlock for WP8 (as am I) and a non-secure-boot test device would be useful to him (though I don't know if he actually needs a device at this time, or what he'd pay; that was just an example of somebody who might be interested). You can probably recoup most or all of the money you sunk into it and give the hacking community a boost as well.
Oh, and @tgriger, we can already do that. I found out how a couple weeks ago. Read the dev&hacking subforum.
GoodDayToDie said:
If I may suggest, there are people on this site who could do far more useful things with a phone like that. Heathcliff74, for example, is working on a root-unlock for WP8 (as am I) and a non-secure-boot test device would be useful to him (though I don't know if he actually needs a device at this time, or what he'd pay; that was just an example of somebody who might be interested). You can probably recoup most or all of the money you sunk into it and give the hacking community a boost as well.
Oh, and @tgriger, we can already do that. I found out how a couple weeks ago. Read the dev&hacking subforum.
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i'd like to do that, but i'm from italy... i kind of doubt there is a safe way for the phone to arrive to you intact, plus the fees are outrageous. If someone wants to buy it can talk to me in private thought, i'll see if i can arrange it. But you can't disable secureboot once the fuse is blown, so i think you can't root the device; and the feaure i think it's provided at the SOC level. And i'm a little bit of a rom developer, so if i learn how to change things i can provide a platform for mods. I can even tell you this: if someone pays me the fees and buy me a new one( the phone is like new, it was bought march 2013 and it had no sign of being used a lot, and on expansys is at 230€ so i think it's fair, it was over 500€ when i bought it)
sireangelus said:
i'd like to do that, but i'm from italy... i kind of doubt there is a safe way for the phone to arrive to you intact, plus the fees are outrageous. If someone wants to buy it can talk to me in private thought, i'll see if i can arrange it. But you can't disable secureboot once the fuse is blown, so i think you can't root the device; and the feaure i think it's provided at the SOC level. And i'm a little bit of a rom developer, so if i learn how to change things i can provide a platform for mods. I can even tell you this: if someone pays me the fees and buy me a new one( the phone is like new, it was bought march 2013 and it had no sign of being used a lot, and on expansys is at 230€ so i think it's fair, it was over 500€ when i bought it)
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@Heathcliff74 is from the Netherlands, so shipping would not be too hard from Italy. Also I just bought an ATIV S from Amazon.de for a bit under 200€.
A non-secureboot device would just be a test platform, not something that it's expected that all devices would be able to make use of. Secure Boot isn't perfect; there are ways around it (some are device-specific, which is less ideal but seems likely to exist on most smartphones; others are not). However, while some people hack on SB, others could hack on making *use* of the ability to install custom ROMs. That's where an unlocked bootloader device would be handy.
Also, yeah, there are lots of European phone hackers. No need to worry about sending it to the US!
It's an interesting device for sure. But there is no way I can afford € 200 now. I have a wife an kids to support too, you know. Maybe at a later time.
Never Said it was an obligation- only stated what i thought was a fair price. If someone wants it and has other proposals I'm listening.
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It's an interesting device for sure. But there is no way I can afford € 200 now. I have a wife an kids to support too, you know. Maybe at a later time.
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So, i would say we could donate to you, that you can afford the device.
Depending on how many users would hop onto this idea, it wouldn't be that much per person
Well, if you're fine with that idea, you can count on my donation
lordmaxey said:
So, i would say we could donate to you, that you can afford the device.
Depending on how many users would hop onto this idea, it wouldn't be that much per person
Well, if you're fine with that idea, you can count on my donation
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That's a good idea. I'm in. ... :good:
I have same problem with my Ativ S ([Channel 0] Device Security Version does not Match !![Channel 0] Binary Download complete!!)
What is it mean `Up this is important.` ?
Please help someone.

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