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Kaiser Performance Disparity??

It's been bugging me, how the Kaiser has a 400 MHz processor and 128 MB of RAM, yet still isn't quite that snappy. As a point of comparison, I have a Thinkpad 770Z, which has a 233 MHz Pentium II processor and 128 MB of RAM. This is capable of running Windows XP SP2 without excessive lag. The Kaiser runs a stripped down version of Windows, yet isn't quite up to par with an inferior machine, based on specs. Is this due to processor instruction sets or source code efficiency? Why is there such a disparity in performance?

PointZero said:
It's been bugging me, how the Kaiser has a 400 MHz processor and 128 MB of RAM, yet still isn't quite that snappy. As a point of comparison, I have a Thinkpad 770Z, which has a 233 MHz Pentium II processor and 128 MB of RAM. This is capable of running Windows XP SP2 without excessive lag. The Kaiser runs a stripped down version of Windows, yet isn't quite up to par with an inferior machine, based on specs. Is this due to processor instruction sets or source code efficiency? Why is there such a disparity in performance?
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Maybe u should ask HTC.

The two systems are completely different - perhaps it's a bit like expecting a mouse to outrun a rabbit as it has a 500bpm heart rate compared to 130bpm.
Also, are you sure you can run XP well on a 233Mhz P11 with 128mb ram? I have excessive slowness on a 2Ghz Athlon XP with 1gb of Ram (depending on what I'm doing of course)!

PointZero said:
I have a Thinkpad 770Z, which has a 233 MHz Pentium II processor and 128 MB of RAM. This is capable of running Windows XP SP2 without excessive lag.
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I call BS on that one... the smallest hardware I've tried XP on was a PII 400MHz with 256MB, and it was horribly slow and unusable. Next to that the Kaiser is heaven. I can run 10 programs simultaneously without problem and actually would have no reason to complain about it as a mobile device.
As DavidMc0 said, the architectures have nothing in common. Why does a 2GHz core 2 duo beat a 3.5GHz P4 hands down? There's not the same inside. Frequency can only consistently be compared in the same processor type.

I have been repairing and building various computers for about 10 years and i'll tell you that running windows xp with a 233mhz is nonsense. I actually installed windows xp on a customer of mine with a pentium 1 233mhz processor with 128mb of ram. That thing was insanely slow, everyway you look at it. The slowest processor you could run windows xp has to be at least a pentium 3 at above 500mhz. And yes, i even did benchmark, a 2ghz core 2 duo will beat my old 3ghz pentium D all day long.

Yes..that is not a fair comparision...compare apples with apples..by the way this test has already been done....( i.e Kaiser versus other smartphones) in the market...and Kaiser passed the test ( number 1) in all tests.
It could jusst be your phone...i have no problem with my Kaiser..
Cheers.

tytn64 said:
Yes..that is not a fair comparision...compare apples with apples..by the way this test has already been done....( i.e Kaiser versus other smartphones) in the market...and Kaiser passed the test ( number 1) in all tests.
It could jusst be your phone...i have no problem with my Kaiser..
Cheers.
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The test results you write about sound interesting with kaiser coming first in all tests - can you post a link to them?

PointZero said:
It's been bugging me, how the Kaiser has a 400 MHz processor and 128 MB of RAM, yet still isn't quite that snappy. As a point of comparison, I have a Thinkpad 770Z, which has a 233 MHz Pentium II processor and 128 MB of RAM. This is capable of running Windows XP SP2 without excessive lag. The Kaiser runs a stripped down version of Windows, yet isn't quite up to par with an inferior machine, based on specs. Is this due to processor instruction sets or source code efficiency? Why is there such a disparity in performance?
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That is probably the greatest ideia i've ever seen (not!)
So.. you got you PentiumII. I'll not dwell into cache diferences... busses... etc... i'll just point this:
Given that the Pentium 1 needed a heatsink and a fan (normaly)... do you think you would be able to just HOLD your kaiser if it was running a intel cpu like that?
Think before you post...

He would, because the battery would already be empty before it had a chance to heat up that much
Not to forget the slot-mounted PII is bigger than a Kaiser on its own, and still needs a chipset, graphics controller, sound chip to actually serve a purpose

diamond2 missing power?

CPU: Qualcomm MSM7200A
System: 32 bit
CPU Speed: 528 MHz
CPU Core: ARM1136EJ-S
Instruction Set: ARMv6
hi everyone
these are the technical atributes given by htc
as i know the diamond has a qualcomm msm7201a
do that mean that the diamond has a faster cpu?
ps: sorry for my bad english

No, msm7201A and msm7200A are the same speed. However, msm7200A, which indeed is older, has better graphic performance. That's why it's used in both the new Diamond2 and the Touch Pro2.
Further replies in the appropriate Diamond2 thread please!

How does G1 GPU conpare to Iphone/magic/hero/pre

So how does g1 compare to other phone competitors in terms of gpu power? Im not sure but does the iphone have a better gpu since it can play these hq 3d games? Do otehr current android phones have better gpus?

GPU is located on the processor....look up the stats for them
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G1/Hero: 528 MHz Qualcomm MSM7201A ARM11 processor, up to 4 million triangles/sec
3GS: PowerVR SGX GPU SGX535 and SGX540 (28 MPolys/s)
The 3GS, Droid, and Pre have the same processor/GPU
OMAP3430 - 600 MHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX 530 GPU + 430MHz C64x+ DSP + ISP (Image Signal Processor)

B-man007 said:
GPU is located on the processor....look up the stats for them
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G1/Hero: 528 MHz Qualcomm MSM7201A ARM11 processor, up to 4 million triangles/sec
3GS: PowerVR SGX GPU SGX535 and SGX540 (28 MPolys/s)
The 3GS, Droid, and Pre have the same processor/GPU
OMAP3430 - 600 MHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX 530 GPU + 430MHz C64x+ DSP + ISP (Image Signal Processor)
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doesnt pre have a 1ghz cpu? So droid should be capable at handling more intensive apps?

Ace42 said:
doesnt pre have a 1ghz cpu? So droid should be capable at handling more intensive apps?
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where did you hear that....
The Palm Pre's CPU is a 600 MHz Texas Instruments OMAP 3430 (ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX) underclocked to 500 MHz.
Hardware-wise yes, but softwarewise, we'll see

B-man007 said:
where did you hear that....
The Palm Pre's CPU is a 600 MHz Texas Instruments OMAP 3430 (ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX) underclocked to 500 MHz.
Hardware-wise yes, but softwarewise, we'll see
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I went to a sprint store and the manager told me it had a 1Ghz, when i asked him about the specs,but i wanted i hero.

Ace42 said:
I went to a sprint store and the manager told me it had a 1Ghz, when i asked him about the specs,but i wanted i hero.
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he wanted to see a phone....never trust salesmen

B-man007 said:
GPU is located on the processor....look up the stats for them
EDIT: ill do it for you...
G1/Hero: 528 MHz Qualcomm MSM7201A ARM11 processor, up to 4 million triangles/sec
3GS: PowerVR SGX GPU SGX535 and SGX540 (28 MPolys/s)
The 3GS, Droid, and Pre have the same processor/GPU
OMAP3430 - 600 MHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX 530 GPU + 430MHz C64x+ DSP + ISP (Image Signal Processor)
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and how's good this omap3430 compared with the snapdragon?

PaoloWeckl said:
and how's good this omap3430 compared with the snapdragon?
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The 1gHz version has High-performance 3D graphics – up to 22M triangles/sec and 133M 3D pixels/sec
much more powerful..they are using these to power netbooks. it has everything on one chip (bluetooth, wifi, data, etc)

But what about the original 3g and not 3gs.

The MBX Lite is capable of providing fill rates exceeding 135 million pixels per second and a throughput of 1.7 million triangles per second, depending on configuration.
original + 3g

Computer RAM

Hello ..
Does anyone know what the difference between 1333MHz RAM and 1066MHz RAM is? what is best? and some who know about my Acer Aspire 4820 supports 1333 RAM, as these "Komputerbay 8GB (2x 4GB) DDR3 SODIMM (204 pin) 1333Mhz PC3 10600 8GB"
The Specifications on the RAM I have right now.
Memory Technology DDR3 SDRAM
Max. Memory Size 8 GB
RAM 4 GB
Memory Speed ​​1066 MHz
SO DIMM 204-pin
Configuration Features 2 x 2 GB
Ram 4 GB

Your Acer Aspire 4820 has Intel Core i7 620M or i5-450M Processor? if so, I doubt that it supports 1333 MHz.
Have a look here or here. Memory Types DDR3-800/1066
You can insert 1333MHz RAM card but it will down clock to 1066MHz.
Of course, more MHz = more speed but first CPU should support it.

Thank you.. But maybe I should have wrote more details about my PC.
It is a Model 4820-374G50Mnks and it only has a I3 Processor
Clock Speed ​​2.4 GHz
manufacturer Intel
Speed ​​2 to 2.9 Ghz
Type Core i3
Multi-Core 2 cores
Processornr. I3-370M
Still the same or?

Shakerz said:
Thank you.. But maybe I should have wrote more details about my PC.
It is a Model 4820-374G50Mnks and it only has a I3 Processor
Clock Speed ​​2.4 GHz
manufacturer Intel
Speed ​​2 to 2.9 Ghz
Type Core i3
Multi-Core 2 cores
Processornr. I3-370M
Still the same or?
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Thanks for more details but 370M is also same in regards to RAM support. DDR3-800/1066 and upto 8GB. look here.

Thanks for your quick answers, it was really helpful

Shakerz said:
Thanks for your quick answers, it was really helpful
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Glad I helped you.
If you go through Toms Hardware forums, you will find lots of helpful info's. Its the best forum out there. Notebook review is also great website when you buy a new laptops.
Thanks...
Best Regards

I'll take a look at it

i9305's CPU, GPU

Hi, just bought a new Galaxy S III (i9305)..how do I check my CPU, GPU etc? I've downloaded quick system info from market and it says the following:
Memory: Total: 1.75GB Free: 0.90GB Idle: 336MB
Processor: ARMv7 Processor rev 0 (v7I) Dual-Core 1400MHz
is this the right phone? I mean isn't the processor suppose to be quad core?? (Sorry if the question sound stupid its just there are so many version of this phone each has different hardware and I wanted to get the best one with Quad Core processor and 2GB Ram)
Thanks

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Bfield.CpuIdentifier try this.

CalInTheZone said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Bfield.CpuIdentifier try this.
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thanks...it shows the original specs!! seems like u have a i9305 too gonna need a lot of help as soon as I start customizing it but first I need to test it for couple of days making calls, sending txt, wifi etc cuz I've heard the LTE version has network issues. thanks again