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Is this normal???

How long does everybodys battery life last here on average? Because its starting to become a hassle for me to keep a charge on my phone... I unplug y phone every morning at 8am, on my way to work, I plug my phone up to a car charger for about 30mins, then when I'm at work around noon I plug up my phone for a hour... and yet I still manage to kill the battery by 3-4pm... the battery wont even last a full work day, even with getting juice for 1 1/2hrs... thats rediculous in my opinion, 8am-4pm = 8hrs - 1 1/2hrs charging = 6 1/2hrs battery life...
At that rate, I need 4(!!!) batteries to last a full 24hours

higherbeing said:
How long does everybodys battery life last here on average? Because its starting to become a hassle for me to keep a charge on my phone... I unplug y phone every morning at 8am, on my way to work, I plug my phone up to a car charger for about 30mins, then when I'm at work around noon I plug up my phone for a hour... and yet I still manage to kill the battery by 3-4pm... the battery wont even last a full work day, even with getting juice for 1 1/2hrs... thats rediculous in my opinion, 8am-4pm = 8hrs - 1 1/2hrs charging = 6 1/2hrs battery life...
At that rate, I need 4(!!!) batteries to last a full 24hours
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Strange, mine lasts about 24hrs (approx) without charging, that's with moderate web usage, games (for about 1 - 2 hours) texting all day and atleast 3 - 4 hours talk time. I'm using the battery my kaiser came with.
Although I have used an assload of tweaks in regards to battery life (turned down brightness, turned off all LED notifications, +used most of the power saving tweaks used in kaiser tweak, then again my sound + vibrations are almost always off except for when i'm sleeping or when the phone is charging, and more i can't think of)

This has been discussed before, so it's worth searching.
Battery life has many variables but if yours is un-usually short then investigate your mail settings, checking every 5 minutes obviously uses more than every 30 minutes.
Check if you have the band switching problem and the solutions for that
Are you killing running programmes, including Active Sync.
Does the phone feel warm (around battery) when it's off the charger. (a sign of an application running but possibly blocked)
So do you kill wifi after using it or if you don't use it then is it running abyway - that will kill the battery. etc etc etc
The above is not a full list but should give some starting points for searches. In general I would expect around a day of low to medium use. If you only get a couple of hours then check the things above.
Mike

How much are you using the phone for bluetooth or wifi or 3g? If not much, then you're right.
I have Alex'x WM 6.1 beta2. It's been a full work day and I still have about 75% battery. I had the stock at&t rom then tried stock HTC rom. The HTC rom had pitiful battery life. I kept it for 1 day in airplane mode and it still died in about 8 hours. The at&t rom lasted about 14 hours. Alex's may last 3 or 4 days. His WM 6.1 gives me the best battery life out of all of his or anyone's rom that I've tried.

hmm well I use an exchange server, so I cant really configure how often it checks mail... I guess it checks constantly... I'm on the phone for maybe 2-3 hrs during work, if even that, i do text alot, and use OctroTalk IM client... Thats about it, i dont play music, i dont watch movies, and I dont play games, dont use bluetooth, but I think it uses the 3G all the time, I'm not sure, it allways says 3G up in top bar...
If flashing it with a new rom can help the battery life, I might consider doing that, is there any other befits from doing so? Over all I've been pleased with the over all performance of the stock rom... except this battery issue.

higherbeing said:
hmm well I use an exchange server, so I cant really configure how often it checks mail... I guess it checks constantly... I'm on the phone for maybe 2-3 hrs during work,
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2-3 hours on the phone!! and constant mail checking!! I don't know about anyone else but for this type of phone I think your battery life is probably normal. I mean that's not far off half a working day on the phone!
Mike

Diamond battery consumption

looks like I have made my life's worst decision of buying Diamond.
This diamond sucks battery like leech. The battery drops 25% within 10 mins of talk with
all programs off, only phone functions on. Another few calls ( 10-20 mins) and some config settings the battery is flat at 28%. Guys ! are you facing the same. I did some observations,
It takes appx 460ma + while on call( screen on ) ,
drops to 275ma + while on call when the screen is off.
goes to 440ma + for GPRS ( internet , data etc) ( phone on )
takes appx 150ma + with Bluetooth on (( phone on ))
goes to 175ma+ with WIFI on (( phone on ))
remains IDLE with 50ma+ ( no call phone On)
I am checking this on battery status and Power gaurd.
Please suggest if the above power consumptions patterns are fine....
ROM : 1.37.720.2 WWE
ROM Date : 06/16/08
Radio version 1.00.25.03

Left for work this morning at 9:30 (yes, I was late) with my battery at 100%.
Talked for about 40 min, updated weather 3 or 4 times, read for about 20 min during lunch break.
When I got back home at 18:30, my battery was at 68%.
Please note that I applied most (if not all) of the tweaks found on this site. Oh, and my screen backlighting was on Auto.

Manoj0603 said:
looks like I have made my life's worst decision of buying Diamond.
This diamond sucks battery like leech. The battery drops 25% within 10 mins of talk with
all programs off, only phone functions on. Another few calls ( 10-20 mins) and some config settings the battery is flat at 28%. Guys ! are you facing the same. I did some observations,
It takes appx 460ma + while on call( screen on ) ,
drops to 275ma + while on call when the screen is off.
goes to 440ma + for GPRS ( internet , data etc) ( phone on )
takes appx 150ma + with Bluetooth on (( phone on ))
goes to 175ma+ with WIFI on (( phone on ))
remains IDLE with 50ma+ ( no call phone On)
I am checking this on battery status and Power gaurd.
Please suggest if the above power consumptions patterns are fine....
ROM : 1.37.720.2 WWE
ROM Date : 06/16/08
Radio version 1.00.25.03
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Update your ROM and also make sure you use the .05 radio, as it has been shown to be better with battery life.
I find on average my phone will last 2 and a half days or so with moderate usage (i.e. few calls/day, texts, internet, few apps run, bit of gps), you may also consider changing your screen brightness to a low'ish setting as this will help preserve battery life and turning gprs off manually. but I do keep mine on auto brightness and with GPRS on the normal default setting

a friend of mine uses the standard radio (.03) without using any tweaks and his battery lasts about 2 days (he calls a lot of people, uses wifi at least once a day)...
I can't tell my experiences because I'm using tweaks...

I've been having similar problems, with the battery sometimes lasting just 12 hours with no usage at all.
Yesterday, my battery ran completely flat, but today things are loads better (still 50% left after 13 hours, including some calls and browsing on 3G/HSDPA).
I'm starting to think that the problems were being caused by a program running in the background which got killed when my phone battery ran out. I'll do some tests over the next few days to try to find out, but I guess the main possibilities are GSen, Opera, Google Maps, or ActiveSync.
Has anyone else experienced similar problems with any of these apps?

pedmond said:
Left for work this morning at 9:30 (yes, I was late) with my battery at 100%.
Talked for about 40 min, updated weather 3 or 4 times, read for about 20 min during lunch break.
When I got back home at 18:30, my battery was at 68%.
Please note that I applied most (if not all) of the tweaks found on this site. Oh, and my screen backlighting was on Auto.
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Same here with all the tweaks applied.
My baby will get me through the whole laboral day 8:00am to around 7:30pm.
When I get home batt is around 10% left. I let it die then charge.
On the phone for about 40 30 minutes on various calls.
Weather check twice.
Emails 4 times.
And a quick look at xda-developers.
Works fine, you just have to learn how to manage the Diamond. Im still waiting for a new battery though.
Luck Fellas!

Sergio PC said:
...I let it die then charge.
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A bit OT, but the Li-Ion batteries doesn't like to die out completely.

I had a phone interview today, around 55 min speaking and the battery dropped from 100% to 70%, so not that bad!

chribruu said:
A bit OT, but the Li-Ion batteries doesn't like to die out completely.
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As far as I know it's OK to do a full charging cycle every some time, like once per month or so.

My battery easily lasts 2 days with moderate use

I get 2 days out of mine - note also that battery life improves markedly after a few charging cycles - mine ran down scarily fast the first 2 or 3 days!

oscahie said:
As far as I know it's OK to do a full charging cycle every some time, like once per month or so.
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This is what I know:
Every battery (doesent matter what kind) has for example 1000 charge cycles that will be 100% Strong. After the 1000 charges the rate starts to fall. You get only 90% after the 1000 charges ect.......
Soooo
You have to make the best out of your charges. The best way of doing this is by drastically cutting of charge sessions. You let it die and then charge it FULLY (and by fully i say till the Diamond tells you its full with its kick a** full circle.
Thats all fellas. Lucks to all!

adesonic said:
I get 2 days out of mine - note also that battery life improves markedly after a few charging cycles - mine ran down scarily fast the first 2 or 3 days!
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Same with me. The first two or three days I was barely getting a whole day. I use push email constantly and make regular calls. I occaisonally use GPS. My battery happily lasts two days, although it is very low by the end of the second day. I also turn the phone off overnight.

apd said:
.... I use push email constantly ....
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I found this to be my biggest problem. If I turn this on my battery is fully flat in about 6 hours. Until my new 1800mah battery arrives, i'm back to pop/smtp.

Just to be on the safe side I bought a cradle which also charges a spare battery, an extra ordinary size battery and every night charge the device and the spare. First thing in the morning I swap the batteries over and pack the fully charged spare. Got mine from gpsforless and it cost £17.99 with the spare battery. Bargain.

blimey, that was a bargain considering it includes a spare battery as well!

JanDaMan said:
Update your ROM and also make sure you use the .05 radio, as it has been shown to be better with battery life.
I find on average my phone will last 2 and a half days or so with moderate usage (i.e. few calls/day, texts, internet, few apps run, bit of gps), you may also consider changing your screen brightness to a low'ish setting as this will help preserve battery life and turning gprs off manually. but I do keep mine on auto brightness and with GPRS on the normal default setting
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I've ROM 1.37.411.2 RUS (original), Radio 1.00.25.03. Can I upgrade my radio to .05 and how I can do it? Because of I've the same trables with battery.
Thank you...

Sergio PC said:
This is what I know:
Every battery (doesent matter what kind) has for example 1000 charge cycles that will be 100% Strong. After the 1000 charges the rate starts to fall. You get only 90% after the 1000 charges ect.......
Soooo
You have to make the best out of your charges. The best way of doing this is by drastically cutting of charge sessions. You let it die and then charge it FULLY (and by fully i say till the Diamond tells you its full with its kick a** full circle.
Thats all fellas. Lucks to all!
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This is true for NI-CAD, but not for other types.

marisa4755 said:
Just to be on the safe side I bought a cradle which also charges a spare battery, an extra ordinary size battery and every night charge the device and the spare. First thing in the morning I swap the batteries over and pack the fully charged spare. Got mine from gpsforless and it cost £17.99 with the spare battery. Bargain.
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Got the same one. So far the battery life has not been great but I am hoping it will improve over time as some people are reportin. Will get a 1800 battery for power use.
Regards

I had exactly the same problem where my diamond battery barely lasted 3 hours.
Turned out to be a faulty phone, not the battery. Tell tale sign is if the Diamond gets hot below the battery, not the actual battery

im i dreaming this diamond reality or what

when i got this diamond phone last week the battery performance
was bad serving me with less then a day worth of power where i
had to buy a second battery.
now that i have been off from work for a few days (3 days) i finaly
had the chance to cain this phone properly eg. flipping wifi on/off
through out the day listening to shoutcast, lenghty periods trying
to setup LAN, listening music while out on the road and checking
emails, looking on the net, yapping on the phone and sending txt messages.
to my supprise the battery seem to be holding up pretty good. now it
appears to be holding out till the end of the day where before i had to
carry two batteries now i think i can get away with carrying just one.
here are my stupid questions
1, does htc batteries get better performance after multiple charges?
2, did i have a semi faulty battery and now a miracle has happend?
3, am i just dreaming that the more i use the longer the battery stays on?
today i charged the bat. at 9am (ish) and now its 3,45pm. i still have 3 bars
remaining im supprised as from before a few days ago this was not the case.
im using the daimond with no mods and standard battery.
HD

suprised!
HtcDia said:
when i got this diamond phone last week the battery performance
was bad serving me with less then a day worth of power where i
had to buy a second battery.
now that i have been off from work for a few days (3 days) i finaly
had the chance to cain this phone properly eg. flipping wifi on/off
through out the day listening to shoutcast, lenghty periods trying
to setup LAN, listening music while out on the road and checking
emails, looking on the net, yapping on the phone and sending txt messages.
to my supprise the battery seem to be holding up pretty good. now it
appears to be holding out till the end of the day where before i had to
carry two batteries now i think i can get away with carrying just one.
here are my syupid questions
1, does htc batteries get better perfomance after multiple cahrges?
2, did i have a semi faulty battery and now a miracle has happend?
3, am i just dreaming that the more i use the longer the battery stays on?
today i charged the bat. at 9am (ish) and now its 3,45pm. i still have 3 bars
remaining im supprised as from before a few days ago this was not the case.
im using the daimond with no mods and standard battery.
HD
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hiya mate,
I am going through the same thing. First day I got the phone and battery was awful about 4 hours it lasted me! very shocked. but it is holding out.
I did charge the phone initially for about 12 hours as specified but don't know if that helps.
what i tend to find with new mobiles is that you have to charge fully and then DISCHARGE FULLY the phone numerous amount of times to get it to perform to the best of its abilities. I don't think its anything to do with HTC batteries, just the fact that new batteries have never been used and need to learn!

RAF_SHC said:
hiya mate,
I am going through the same thing. First day I got the phone and battery was awful about 4 hours it lasted me! very shocked. but it is holding out.
I did charge the phone initially for about 12 hours as specified but don't know if that helps.
what i tend to find with new mobiles is that you have to charge fully and then DISCHARGE FULLY the phone numerous amount of times to get it to perform to the best of its abilities. I don't think its anything to do with HTC batteries, just the fact that new batteries have never been used and need to learn!
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you are half right. this battery life is improving if you keep charging it but it is not advised to fully discharge them.
the fully charged-fully discharged method was for the old batteries with "memory".
somewhere in this forum, in the trinity forum somebody experimented the two ways of charging-discharging the battery. the conclusion was that it is better to charge the battery anytime, any occasion u have.

Indeed, the battery's performances (and this is applicable to all common batteries) will increase by time until it reaches its max capabilities.
To gain performance, the battery has to discharge and charge very frequently, or better, continuously. I don't really know how the Diamond manages it (meaning if the battery is full, will the device still get power from the battery if it is plugged on, or will it drain power from the cable. It could also drain from battery if it is fully charged and charge it in the same time, or it could simply always take it from the cable and charge the battery in less time)
The reverse is also true, meaning if you don't discharge/charge your battery frequently enough, its performances will decrease by time.
Also, if your battery discharges and charges all the time, it's lifetime will be longer than a battery that is only used once in a week.
I don't know if I made it clear, lol.
By the way, don't think that if you keep charging your battery you will end up with weeks of battery, there is a limit and it is 850mAh on the stock battery, if I remember correctly.

thanks for the tips some say discharging is good and some say dont.
all i know its 8:35pm and i have only used 1 bar from around 4:30
which now leave me with 2 bars. im jumping for joy because normally
by 6pm ish the battery would have already died.
with all the hammering today i cant believe it only took 2 bars in nearly
12 hours and thats with no extra charge from the psu and only 5 usb
connections to the pc to sync and add files totaling 2 - 5 minutes
on each connection.
now i can officially say this phone is "DA BOMB"
time to sell the e90 and e65

The thing that kills the battery on this phone above everything else is the GPS - knocks it out in 90minutes or less. If you were having fun (even for a few minutes) with it in your first few days, this might explain it...

GPS?
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The thing that kills the battery on this phone above everything else is the GPS - knocks it out in 90minutes or less. If you were having fun (even for a few minutes) with it in your first few days, this might explain it...
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yeha that would explain it but the thing is I haven't even installed TomTom or any other GPS related app!!! weird. but i've had it for about 4 days now and battery does seem to improve slightly on a daily basis.

Batterytime on Xperia

Is there anyone else here that experience that the batterytime is max 3-4 hours standby?

No, battery time is more than great. I got my X1 last monday and the first three times I charged the battery to full and then let the X1 with full screen light on. This lastet more than six hours!!! Then the X1 shut off itself. The same at the second charging zyklus. Again more than 6 hours of best screen-light before switching off in cause of less power.
This is the best result I evere had at a PPC

guess you'd have to replace your battery. seems to be buggy.
my battery lasts about 6h+ of video playback (700mb, avi, dvdrip)

cheese098 said:
guess you'd have to replace your battery. seems to be buggy.
my battery lasts about 6h+ of video playback (700mb, avi, dvdrip)
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Wow,
I'm using Sync and wifi. can i't be because?

I got 4-5 hrs with wifi and bluetooth while streaming with the screen on max brightness. I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT!!!

It's Media Panel
Have you launched the Media Panel?
I noticed that if I used the Media Panel for music playback
the back/battery was getting VERY hot. Not good for its
lifetime . So this Panel consumes a lot of power. I guess
the Xperia developers got some work to do.
Also Wifi needs lot of battery power.
Using both about 4 hours are thinkable.
Greetings, Diewi

Diewi said:
Have you launched the Media Panel?
I noticed that if I used the Media Panel for music playback
the back/battery was getting VERY hot. Not good for its
lifetime . So this Panel consumes a lot of power. I guess
the Xperia developers got some work to do.
Also Wifi needs lot of battery power.
Using both about 4 hours are thinkable.
Greetings, Diewi
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No, not mediapanel.
Well, i test without Synk and Wifi tomorrow.

That's it. It's Wifi. Having Wifi turned on all the time you
will get these results. It's one of the most battery intense
functions. Only turn it on if you need it. For example,
notebooks with much larger batteries will have much less
runtime (bad english, I know ).
Sync isn't responsible for this. I have an hosting exchange
server running but I didn't notice any effect on the battery.
Hope, I could help.
Diewi

im able to switch my wifi on for 3 hours then music for another 2 hours and 1 and a half hour calls still manage to have 3 bars left on my phone whats wrong with yours?

the battery on the x1 is insanly good compared to the diamond.
(however, when i was charging it yesterday there was somekind of bug that drained the battery when the charger was plugged in, it did not detect the charger after a while, havent checked what it could be, had msn/skype/wifi and the arc slider open )
edit: softreset solved that problem

the battery of X1 is working fine, 10 hours continues use time (for internet + MSN)

WiFi is something that should be only turned on when you are using it. Same goes with BT too infact.

so my accu holds approx. 1 day with music, Games, wifi, video, but I think the accu is already become better as in start in the normal one use he holds 2.5 days

Wow, 8-10 hours without Wlan!

on 2g i got msn/skype running from morning to bedtime, 3pushmail accounts and normal usage, 2bars left of battery at bedtime so its good.
But. i get strange problems when charging the battery and the phone is on. it seams like when the battery is fully charged, it starts to discharge if i not plug out the charger, this morning when i woke up the phone was off but fully charged, it could mean that the battery was charged, then discharged and shut off, then charged again.

a normal businessday: 230 min phone, 30 mails, 15 SMS, bit Internet ....and the Battery is still alive....it´s good enough for me )
sonox

it,s the poor reception that drains the battery,seeking for a signal most of the time..

Since having the X1... Now 1 week... I would have to say its the best battery life on a WM device I have used...
I get approx 2days of usage without charging... which I think is good.
Cheers

I heve my phone checking for new mail every 5 minutes. Does this consume a lot of battery or is it negligible?

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I heve my phone checking for new mail every 5 minutes. Does this consume a lot of battery or is it negligible?
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yes it consume a lot of battery, more on 3g than on 2g, if you think its a problem. just increase the time to 30min or so.

Battery Lifetime

Ok i am new here to windows mobile this forum and the x1 as i only have it for about 3 days. But my question is, is it normal that it uses 57% ram when idle? And is the battery supposed to be empty at the end of the day (i leave it charging when i go to sleep)? I got the Hard-spl and Touch-IT v4.5 landscape installed.

The ram is normal for the rom, but the batt life aint.

What is a normal battery life then?

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What is a normal battery life then?
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Depends on what you're doing with your phone.
The battery life can vary between a few hours (full usage of WiFi and/or Bluetooth and MP3) to 10+ days (most time in standby).
I have 4 days with average usage.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495841

I charge it each day.Nomatter it's 90% or 30%.
I never now"will I use my X1 to listen music or go surfing tomorrow?".

Uhm i got 1 day when i am not using the phone and it's just on standby mode all the day and no i don't have wifi on. But i don't know if GPS goes on/off auto but as far as i know it's off.

If make x1 just standby and never used it,maybe a week or more.
But,who can buy a mobile just make it standby
I never mind it,get one more battery maybe a good idea

Hmm i think ill just wait for a week or so and look what happens as i just had it for 3 days.

xinos said:
Hmm i think ill just wait for a week or so and look what happens as i just had it for 3 days.
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3 days is enough for me...I can not believe my x1 could do it...
I don't know is there the "momax battery" in your area..
My friend told me the battery is better than the original one.

You should search the forum... there are some ways to increase battery life... the biggest issue people have is that they don't fully charge the phone before switching it on. There is a bug in WM which takes the battery charge at the time to be 100%. It will not charge above this figure unless it's turned off.
So turn off the phone and fully charge then restart the phone and it will set the charge level correctly.
Then see what life you get on stand by... I bet it's lots higher.
crabby

No it doesn't, i switched mine on at the phone shop then charged it at home. Worked fine

Wow... that's a nice kick in the nads... could you at least let him try it? I know I had the issue when I first got the phone... did this and it helped me. But of course, if you haven't had this problem dadeadman you must be universally correct.
crabby

I'm gonna give that a go. Since going to itje v4.5 my battery life has been completely naff, doesn't even last a day :-(

djs10 said:
I'm gonna give that a go. Since going to itje v4.5 my battery life has been completely naff, doesn't even last a day :-(
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same as mine

i feel thre battery life on my x1 is terrible, i full charge it n dischange it on 6: 30am, was using some GPS, heavy EDGE to go online but around 8am to 1pm is using wifi to go on... after all this it drop to 20% battery... so i borrow some1 laptop to charge da fone, n it seems it wont charge n drain battery from my fone, it shows dat im gettin charge but after i unplug it around 5pm i got 5% battery left. my fone shut down on me at 6pm...i got home around 9pm... dat means i got 3 hrs lost in space... no1 can call me, cant go online n lalalala...
i thought my w960 battery was wack... dis is worst...