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Tilt no longer enjoys being touched.

So, i'm usually quiet on these forums. Just reading, trying roms, etc. But here is something that has me stumped. Last thursday my phone crapped out. When i woke up and looked at it (it was connected to my laptop/charging) Applications were opening left and right, i couldn't close any of them because stuff kept opening. I tried to soft reboot it and it didn't help. Once it rebooted stuff started opening itself at random again. I ended up pulling the SIM and battery out and leaving it for 5 minutes. When i put it back and powered it up the touch screen no longer worked, but apps weren't opening on their own.
What gives?
I have hard reset (which means it's waiting for me to touch the screen to setup my rom), i have also taken off the screen protector (in case it had something stuck under it. Neither of these things helped. Per the forums I got a new screen, just put it in, and the touch screen doesn't work still... I'm drawing a blank here can anyone give me some advice. Going back to my Prophet for the time being but I HATE not having a keyboard (and it's slower than molasses)

have you tried flashing a new rom via sd?

Check that the screen protector has not moved under the front bezel and keeps pressing your touchscreen.
Robert

I have totally removed the screen protector and even replaced the screen for that matter so I dont think that's it. I haven't tried flashing a new rom. I just found it odd that this has worked for so long and now I get what appears to be hardware problems. As for flashing Via SD memory, is that better than doing it via cable for some reason? I'd be willing to give it a go...

Any other suggestions?

fiddelm3742 said:
I have totally removed the screen protector and even replaced the screen for that matter so I dont think that's it. I haven't tried flashing a new rom. I just found it odd that this has worked for so long and now I get what appears to be hardware problems. As for flashing Via SD memory, is that better than doing it via cable for some reason? I'd be willing to give it a go...
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Similar problem happened to my Kaiser phone, although no multiple files opened, the phone just won't react to any touching, not stylus pen either. So I first soft reset, then hard reset, none of them works, now the phone can Sync alright, but the screen just stands on the Window Mobile screen, saying "Tap the screen to set up your window mobile device"
I only have this new phone for <3 weeks.
I went to HTC site, want to download a latest ROM file from them, after typing in the S/N, it won't let me, saying that ROM is not suitable for my phone.
So now I am download ROM file from this site, will choose one to flash the phone, see whether it works.
I will call HTC tech support tomorrow after Thanksgiving, see what they suggest
Hope some gurus here can also make some suggestion, Thanks!

Well I replaced the LCD and the new LCD works great, but the screen still doesn't respond to touches. What gives?! I hard reset and I got past the windows screen alignment thing by creating a welcome.not file but it's still pretty much worthless w/o a touch screen. Anyone have any suggestions?

Whoa, i thought something odd was going on. Never mind i got entirely the wrong idea.

Ha, not the case.
Anyone know if a flex cable would fix my issue? I dont really know what the felx cable is for but i've seen posts about people replacing them w/ LCD problems. I don't know if it is touch screen related or not, and i'm kind of tired of buying parts that don't fix my problem

please just flash a new rom whch ever you want (for some reason i thought you said that it keeps restarting your device because if that was the case the only option you would have was to flash via sd as activesync would load long enough for you to get a connection to flash from the computer)..trust me just try it..what have you got to lose

I reflashed one yesterday actually. The newest HyperDragon (which is looks like a new one is available today) It wasn't rebooting but initially windows were popping open left and right so i restarted it a couple of times(which i first had the problem, not yesterday) Yesterday it worked like any normal rom w/o the ability to touch. Anywho, after the flash of a different rom. No luck. I'm thinking it's a hardware problem of some sort but as i've already replaced the LCD i have no idea what?

yah thats sounds funky..you can bring it in for a warranty exchange either at a local DSC or over the phone (that is if your with att) and if not call HTC..all devcies come with a 16 or 18 month warranty

Well I called ATT yesterday, apparently I purchased the phone On Oct 17th 2007 which means It's out of warranty (apparently it has a 12 month warranty?) So it sounds like I'm SOL. So, i guess I'm off to ebay to try and fine a phone that I can canibalize to try and get mine going again.

touch screen
this may sound dum but when you replaced the screen did you replace the touch part as this is different from the screen

Well I picked up this
http://www.blackberry8100parts.com/...B3-NEW-HTC-TyTN-II-KAISER-P4550-_p_35-70.html
which includes the digitizer (from what I know it's all one part when they send it to you) The screen has the digitizer built in. So i replaced the part they sent me.

I just stated having this issue. My touchscreen stopped responding to touches over the weekend while the keyboard was extended. I just took the phone apart to make sure everything was connected right & put it back together, & now the touchscreen doesn't work at all. This sucks!

Any news? i'm having the same problem: no response at all, stuck at "Tap the screen to set up Windows Mobile-based device"

An interesting problem with screen
well my tilt fell out of the car holster while using gps and i suspect the screen hit my gear shift. I didn't notice anything odd after i put the battery back in it (yeah it fell that hard lol). Later that night I went to check mail and noticed something not right. Turns out my screen seems to have been pushed in a bit. Well here's the issues I've noticed so far: All the touch responses seem fine except for 1) the screen alignment doesn't register taps, but otherwise the touchscreen works and 2) on the htc home screen, I can't tap the house icon unless I tap any other icon first.
Initially I thought there was some pressure or deformation right at that particular spot, but it reacts the exact same way in landscape mode. I can't tap the house icon first; I have to tap something else first, then the icon works fine until I open a program or something and go back to the home screen. Then I simply have to tap weather or something and then home.
I'd reflash the rom or do a hard reset, but the screen alignment didn't work when I tried it so I didn't want to get stuck at the "tap your screen to begin" part.
Any ideas or do I just need to buy another screen or maybe just the digitizer. the amount the screen seems recessed is maybe a millimeter at most. Just enough so that I noticed a difference when touching contacts just above the housing. I tried cleaning by using a business card and running between screen and housing. Ohh... and one more thing... when I open the cube and then close it, I get what I refer to a static frazzle for split second and it goes back to normal. That only happened a couple of times after the business card thing. Do you think I just loosened a connection? damn... I still haven't taken it apart yet. Think I need to. Any help appreciated.

If your screen does not work, you can still use your phone. There is an app that you use on your computer that acts as the touch screen. This also works when the screen craps out.
http://www.sparus-software.com/spip.php?page=download&lang=en&ref=at&t=tilt
(EveryWAN Remote Support Personal Edition - Free download)

yeah -- my touchscreen didn't crap out totally, it just got muffed up when I dropped it a bit. Well, i went ahead and installed codefreaks remote screen alignment thing and did a hard reset. Well, the hardreset did the trick w/out the need for anything else. The alignment worked and everything. So, i'm back in business. Everything seems to work properly, except that my screen is still recessed a tad; but, that's not a big deal really.

Very Dim Screen on AT&T Tilit - Backlight issue(?)

Here's my story:
I recently bought this phone for only $125 - not bad deal if you ask me. I knew from the beginning that the screen was a little mess up, even the guy I bought it from knew that. You would need a flash light in order to see what was on the screen. From any other point of view, it's just totally dark/black. So the guy was gracious enough to include a new lcd screen which he ordered to replace the old one. So I decided to undertake the task of putting it in myself. Once that was all said and done, I powered the tilt up and it was doing the exact same thing before I put the new lcd screen in, which was not lighting up the screen and it was still very dark to see anything.
With a flashlight, you can see that it's still working and the touchscreen works fine too. I think another person posted a thread with the same problem, but no one really replied back to him. Has anyone come across this problem before? Some have said that it's the flex cable that connects to the front d-pad and lcd screen itself is the cause for the back light issue. Any suggestions out there?

If I were you I'd try to figure out the pinouts for the LCD panel. Try to see if the Kaiser is outputting the necessary voltage for the backlight. Also try the opposite and apply voltage to the LCD to test the backlight.
Unless it is 2 back LCDs, I'm assuming there is a fault somewhere internal and not turning on the backlight.
I've never taken my tilt apart, but this is where I would start.

I wouldn't know where to begin to troubleshoot a device like this. Lol! It's fairly easy to take apart - there's actually a video on youtube that takes you step-by-step. I guess this isn't as common as some problems are, but I don't want to spend money having someone else fix something that could be so minute. And prices for some of the replacement parts are almost as expensive as what I bought the phone for.
When I took my tilt apart, physically, everything looked good from what my eyes can see. A little cleaning here and there, nothing major. The guy who had it before me flashed the rom to try and make it look like it had touchflo on it so I reflashed it back to the original rom software (or at least, whatever was on the HTC website). I tried doing hard resets, soft resets, rom flashing and everything, still no luck.

Bizarre Kaiser Behavior- death throes?

I've been running hyper dragon III on my tilt for the past few years. A couple of days ago my tilt started acting flakey, pulling up sms, email, contact lists, and dialing random numbers ,44924444466634444.......repeating like a stuck key. I reset but to not avail. I took out the battery and reset again, no luck. I figured it was time to replace my venerable hyper dragon with a shiny new Rom. I chose a clean wm6.5 Rom, ahmedfikry wm6.5 23569 Tilt 3D UC light Rom V2 . It seemed to work... at first. I was excited with the speed, the response, of this new interface and smugly back patting myself ... when the buggy behavior returned; hmm, I thought, a bad flash?, so I went back to the wiki, reformatted SD card, reset, rebooted... no joy! It can't be viral...can it, or worse some malignant kaiser killer cancer; can it? Insights, ideas, recommendations? Please be kind, I'm very vulnerable right now....

UPS just delivered my brand new seidio extended tilt battery! It came a day early, oh joy! Murphy strikes again... : )

if it is starting programs that are linked DIRECTLY to hardware buttons, i would suspect your kaiser's buttons or the cables from the buttons have gone faulty (hardware problem).
everything you say seems to point to things that are linked with buttons...there is a button for sms/email, all the numbers have buttons (on the keyboard) and even the contact list is sometimes mapped to one of the soft keys on some screens (e.g. the "All Contacts" button on the contacts page of manila).
so perhaps your buttons are the problem...they might be "sticking" or a cable or set of cables might have come loose or they might have cracked.
the only other possibility i can think of is that your screen protector might need changing. even worse, your touch screen may have gone faulty (hardware problem). you can try realigning the screen but i doubt that will help if the issue is sporadic.
finally, you might want to see if something physical triggers the issue. maybe holding it your left hand upside down? maybe slide open the top? or maybe more frequent when the keyboard is hidden? or try to apply pressure near the buttons or near the frame of the screen to see if that makes the issues more frequent?
good luck!

ASCIIker thanks for your insightful reply.
I fear you to be correct. I did not think to correlate the type of programs and their use of hardware buttons. I did however disassemble my sick little baby last night after posting. I went looking for pocket gunk or loose connections. I had replaced the LCD about a year ago and while it work fine after that, a loose screw wasn't impossible. Too my never ending surprise it booted up upon reassembly, but to my disappointment it began to exhibit the same freaky symptoms. I decided to do a Rom flash, but now was unable to get to my tricolor screen! After about 20 attempts, I gave up turned it off and put in my new battery. A long charge later, I turned it on to drain and train the battery expecting it to resume its schizoid activity...but no! I find a lovely 6.5 win-mo screen an a well behaved phone. I'm determined to solve this conundrum. I would like to say it was the principle of the thing, but really I'm driven by my ocd nature reinforced by cheapo habits. ASCIIker, do you think if I disconnect the 'd pad' connector I might be able to confirm your hypo? I sure I can get it to repeat its bad behavior if just spend some time reloading and setting preferences. Once I get it perfect its sure to fritz out! Either way thanks again.

[Q] Touch screen dead spots

This may be a problem beyond the scope of android, but seeing as I'm running it, I thought I'd try here first.
I've noticed that the lower left hand side of my screen has a "dead spot" where touch is simply not registered. To illustrate, I went to screen calibration's test screen and drew a straight line along the edge of the screen. (See Attachment)
I've tried recalibrating the screen (manually and resetting to default calibration) as well as wiping data and reinstalling the system. Reinstalling the system worked once, but then the problem came back and subsequent reinstalls did not fix the issue.
I'm running Incubus26jc super froyo [RLS 12] on the 15-07-10 340X480 Froyo Kernel.
Anyone else seen anything like this? As far as I can tell, the problem is not getting any worse. Currently, it's only a hindrance when trying to use keys in that region, but I can work around it by switching to and from landscape. It's a bit of a hassle, so I'm hoping someone may be able to shed some light on the situation.
I was sure it was hardware until the system reinstall fixed it, but am now baffled as I can no longer replicate the fix.
I have not tried reinstalling the kernel but will at some point in the next day or so. I'd like to avoid switching back to WM to check if the problem persists, but may have to... we'll see. Doing everything I can to make this phone last until the Incredible month of February when I'm up for an upgrade.

dont know the issue resolution... but i have the same with my touch vogue.. and in the same 'area' apparently as well.
hard for me to hit the 'a' key on my keyboard. hehe

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one... anyone else?

Bottom right corner for me... I was able to calibrate around it but it took a few tries.
Sent from my Full Android on Vogue using XDA App

The sensitivity across my screen was inconsistent some time ago. I found that years of my abuse had taken a tole on the exterior of my phone. It eventually got worse and I bought a new housing (with a new digitizer) on ebay for a reasonable price. If it is hardware then it really isn't that hard to fix if you like taking things apart.
If you're sure that win mo accepts input from that part of the screen then nevermind my post. I would play with a painting app though and investigate the hardware further.
I may be talking a little out my a$$ with this part but.. is it possible that in calibrating your screen the os may change it's settings on how hard you have to press and such also. that may be how you got it working.
In any case, my investment in a hew housing was well worth it considering how modern my old phone has become thanks to the developers here.

gooph said:
I may be talking a little out my a$$ with this part but.. is it possible that in calibrating your screen the os may change it's settings on how hard you have to press and such also. that may be how you got it working.
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In my case, no - when drawing a straight line down or across the screen, the line starts 'moving' away from the stylus (like the picture in the OP).

Gah... now it's shutting itself off randomly and the dead spot has grown. Not good at all.

Yeah, mine was better for a while then 'slid' again. I ended up swapping the digitizer with my other Vogue and things are back to normal.
Sent from my Full Android on Vogue using XDA App

I have another vogue, but am weary of doing anything like that. How hard was it to get done?

All you need to do is switch the front half of the housing rather than the digitizer itself- it's not hard. There's a teardown guide somewhere in the forum, Google Vogue teardown and it should be at the top.
Sent from my Full Android on Vogue using XDA App

The only thing that worries me is that my spare vogue exists because it was dropped in a muddy puddle. I'm hoping the water damage isn't too bad. Guess we'll just have to see.

it is really annoying
I have the exact same problem and I too thought it was a hardware issue till I saw this Thread. I was ignoring it till two days ago when it started really bugging me. Now, I don't even need to press any button and it automatically gets pressed around the curve and I have a google search box there, so it keeps on searching for eee or sss randomly and started draining my battery. Is there a proper fix for this?

I thought I'd chime in too... I could never seem to calibrate the touchscreen properly in either Android or Debian. Changing the screen resolution (i.e. msmfb scaling) seems to have no effect, whether it's 240x320 or 640x480. Any area within 5mm or so of the edges of the LCD will register as the edge, making "A" and several other keys on the virtual keyboard impossible to hit. Passing calibration values to the kernel didn't seem to fix anything, but it's possible I was using them the wrong way...

i have the same kind of problem on my Kaiser... i think its realted to hardware... either the housing or the digitizer...

I am experiencing the same problem on X10 mini pro. the same screen spot exactly, i have to try very hard to get z or x or shift to work. Sometimes when I try locking the screen and unlocking it back, it works.

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so after a very long time with this problem i decided to change the digitizer and problem is gonne. visualy the broken digitizer had nothing wrong with it. The fix was fairly easy though, there is no glued parts involved into getting a new digitizer on the u20i.

Touch Screen
I just bought a brand new Cubot One and it looks more than perfect! It has just a little problem with the touch screen ( I think its the software, need ROM change). There is a dead line on the right side of the screen that touch doesn't work at all. Any solutions? Anyone faced that before? Can I fix it myself or do I have to send it back for replacement? Is there any video or guide that shows its done?
I uploaded a video on YouTube to show the problem but i cant post it yet.. (new member)
You can write "Cubot One touch screen problem" and it's the 1st one.
Thank You!

[Q] My xperia x1, durbility is poor after just one year of use...

So its been about a year and half since I received this phone for my birthday, and from this moment on, I am 90% sure that these companies design these phones to fall apart after a while so you buy a new one.
Please to not be intimidated by the length of the problems, I really doent want to waste a $600 nice phone. Please help.....
List of problems:
So on one random day, while I was using my phone with EnergyROM sense 6.1 (Not even 6.5 (Windows 6.5.5)) the phone stopped rotating when I flipped the keyboard, as in the screen will not rotate when I try to use the keyboard. The touch screen also becomes uncalibrated, and even when I recalibrate it, it still acts very funky (have to click lower than button or higher, depending on its mood). I did absolutely nothing different with my phone that day, but I did not call my phone dead right away, so I decided to update the ROM with the latest sense 6.5 ROM to see if the OS is corrupt or over-cached. This did not fix the problem.
Also, another very weird thing is the phone's screen will illuminate (I guess backlight), but no picture will show when turned on after sleep mode, and I have to click the top button again to sleep and awake it to get a picture. When flipped, the screen doesn't even fully illuminate, and literally dies down to a black screen (half of the pixels are bright, and then it just fails).
Any help would be very appreciated. What I am thinking of is wiping the phone 100%, and not even leaving a rom on it. I heard there is a command that deletes the junk off your phone from a previous ROM to your updated ROM is clutter free. Any other suggestions?

Edit: I hard reset my phone, and nothing is fixed; I still cannot flip screen into landscape mode.

The "command" you are talking about is called "task 29", look for it in the ROM section.
It sounds like hardware problems, i've had mine for about 1 year and a half as well and no problems besides a couple of scratches.

The flex cable connecting LCD and board might be out of order.... I had the same issue.

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The flex cable connecting LCD and board might be out of order.... I had the same issue.
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Yeah I heard about that problem. I will first task 29 it, but are there any guides to take apart and fix the flex cable, or even just unplugging it and plugging it back in?
Also, what did you do with your broken phone? Did you buy a new one or get it fixed?
Thanks for the feed back both of you.

my X1 also aged same as yours and it still runs flawlessly now. so it might depends on how you used and keep it
as for the "wiping off the phone" its called task 29, and is encouraged to do before you flash a new ROM, have you did it before flashing energyROM?

rhadrio said:
my X1 also aged same as yours and it still runs flawlessly now. so it might depends on how you used and keep it
as for the "wiping off the phone" its called task 29, and is encouraged to do before you flash a new ROM, have you did it before flashing energyROM?
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No, but I just did now, but it seems to be a hardware problem because nothing seems to be working properly still. This is some serious BS because I am very over protected with this phone, just to prevent stuff like this to happen. I have never dropped it ONCE, and it seemed to just wear out by itself. The lenses covering the camera is cracked also, and the screen is all screwed up, and I didnt do absolutely nothing abusive to it, I am 110% sure of this.
Any suggestions on how to fix hardware/ ribbon connected to the screen problem?

Order a new cable and replace it.

If you search on Youtube for the video on how to disassemble x1 there is a complete guide that shows you. Its pretty easy and all you need to do is, take the flex cable out and carefully plug it back in. Then carefully put your X1 back together and hopefully you issue will be fixed. If it still persist, then try and get the flex cable changed.