Help with Manilla version explanation please - Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps

Hi,
I am a pretty basic user and way back when there was a change to Manilla that i really didn't like, and all newer versions seem to have this one annoying feature that almost kills all newer ROMS for me. It's in the messaging, specifically SMS, where (i believe) if u enter a message thread by clicking the message, there's a centered text box now and the soft keys have changed. Where "send" used to be, now there is "back." I can't tell you how many mssgs i've lost because i accidentilly hit the back button.
I think this happened from one version of Manilla to the next? If so can anyone tell me which version incorporated the change so i can look for the older versions, or if there is a fix out there to get back to simple threaded sms
TIA!

Thing you are describing is feature of manila 2.0 and higher. There is simply solution thanks to user CMYLXGO. Try google for "cmylxgo rhodium sms app disable". Install the cab and next time you tap the message you get the well known windows SMS application

oh awesome! thanks....maybe now i can get into 6.5

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HTC touch Keyboard

im wondering if this exists or not? i thought since almost everything else was available perhaps someone had a cab for this or something very similar to the TOUCH keyboard config. or would this be a part of a Rom?>
its available, i dont have a direct link on this comp. but there are many throughought the kaiser forums
Look at the cab collection post
But note that on my kaiser, it was causing troubles to PocketCM Keyboard...
So I just kept this one : PocketCM keyboard
I also had some troubles with it... on german dictionary the keys stoped working and stuff... i removed it and Use PocketCm Keyboard...
I installed this and it worked very well with the kaiser for T9 text but unfortunatley you lost the ability to
When sending text or e-mail if you type the first couple letters it shows you a list of contacts which meet that description, with this keyboard installed it takes that away and you phisycally have to go into contacts and select them. i use this a lot so anyone that has worked out how to install the keyboard and keep this feature please post up.
Thanks
ive been testing both, my only qualm with PocketCM is some words cannot always be added. ITS VERY annoying...and also the keyboard is still somewhat too small for my fingers...im testing the HTC keyboard as we speak...seems alright but both have advantages

WINDOWS MOBILE 6.5 21193/21193 update 25.3.2009

XIP 31193
SYS 31193
hello im working on new version and now it is stable and working
here is link
all buttons working (red button .......)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8ger2y
and here is video of rom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozY9aKAMy58
scroll down for screenshots
My observations:
+ damn fast
- red/power button doesn't wors as power-down button and phone toggle
- no wireless/comm manager
- some bitmaps doesn't look very well (not a big problem)
- strange names in Buttons settings
- no palm messaging (but maybe it's jus me)
At the moment I'm going back to 6.1 with palm oems, but I do really cross fingers for you and your rom. If you'll put new version soon, I'm getting it! Great work!
miloszz said:
My observations:
+ damn fast
- red/power button doesn't wors as power-down button and phone toggle
- no wireless/comm manager
- some bitmaps doesn't look very well (not a big problem)
- strange names in Buttons settings
- no palm messaging (but maybe it's jus me)
At the moment I'm going back to 6.1 with palm oems, but I do really cross fingers for you and your rom. If you'll put new version soon, I'm getting it! Great work!
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thx to u next version will be faster then this (i belive)
i need port original applications form palm wm5 to more usable on this palm
1-2 days for it
i dont like palm messaging
original is better for me
I used default messaging for a long time (so called "lite" version of 6.1)
The biggest problem for me is comm manager and power button. Accidentialy I flashed again to your rom so I'll stick with this one now, try to configure it for my needs (it's just question of few apps to cure most of "problems").
Can't wait to see next version.
Best regards.
veisen said:
thx to u next version will be faster then this (i belive)
i need port original applications form palm wm5 to more usable on this palm
1-2 days for it
i dont like palm messaging
original is better for me
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I would suggest using the Palm WM6 as a base for those apps, not wm5.
Merlyn_3D said:
I would suggest using the Palm WM6 as a base for those apps, not wm5.
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5 is better because vodafone version is bigger and slower
miloszz said:
I used default messaging for a long time (so called "lite" version of 6.1)
The biggest problem for me is comm manager and power button. Accidentialy I flashed again to your rom so I'll stick with this one now, try to configure it for my needs (it's just question of few apps to cure most of "problems").
Can't wait to see next version.
Best regards.
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uploaded version wm6.5 with palm oem programs and commmanager and some small fixes
veisen said:
uploaded version wm6.5 with palm oem programs and commmanager and some small fixes
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haven't tried the clean version, but on the new palm version, the soft menu is the old version and links like phone settings or today settings dont work. *have to use start menu*
also not able to connect to an exchange server. link to set it up in activesync seems to be dead.
red button, and wireless manager seem to work.
will check out the clean version as well.
edit: reset the phone. activesync, email, and exchange all work.
soft key bar still isn't like your first update *i assume it changed in 6.5, and this is the old version* and phone and today settings links in soft menu are still broken.
edit#2: seems the email account isn't listed in the accounts settings window. also at least one keyboard shortcut didn't work (whitebutton + P for brightness settings) i assume this has to do with the "weird" names programs have listed under buttons.
i want to update to 6.5 but is it possible to go back to orignal at&t oem rom afterward to will there be some problem....???????
help......??????????????
hartleyshc said:
haven't tried the clean version, but on the new palm version, the soft menu is the old version and links like phone settings or today settings dont work. *have to use start menu*
also not able to connect to an exchange server. link to set it up in activesync seems to be dead.
red button, and wireless manager seem to work.
will check out the clean version as well.
edit: reset the phone. activesync, email, and exchange all work.
soft key bar still isn't like your first update *i assume it changed in 6.5, and this is the old version* and phone and today settings links in soft menu are still broken.
edit#2: seems the email account isn't listed in the accounts settings window. also at least one keyboard shortcut didn't work (whitebutton + P for brightness settings) i assume this has to do with the "weird" names programs have listed under buttons.
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thx for test i repair it today
Just downloaded your rom, will let you know the details soon
Ok here is the review of this rom, the one with palm oem applications and commmanager,
Pros:
Fast and stable
Volume is better compare to 6.1
It has inbuilt mass storage driver which 6.1 lack
Shortcut are sorted in appropriate folders in start menu
Black Theme is default, which is very good
Display is better compare to 6.1
There are 2 flavour of Wmplayer
Comm Manager is now full functional
And More............
Cons:
Instead of green light to show the network now its showing orange,
Vibrate is not working
There is slight jerk in display while changing screen from one program to another
There is no Call screen, Mean when you are answering a call or had dialed a call you want be able to see the duration of the call.
Hi there, thank you very much for your great work. I have a quick question: My Treo has a German (QWERTZ) keyboard, will it be detected somehow?, or the ROM will asume its a QWERTY keyboard. I don't mind the OS being in English, that would even be better, is there a quick way to patch the ROM to make it work with the QWERTZ keyboard?
Thank you so much in advance.
About in call screen. It's all around ActiveCall and DialLookup plugins. Maybe changing some registry values will fix it (I had similar situations once and editing some registry solved my problems). Tomorrow I'll compare some of my keyes with working wm6.
-If your syncing to an Exchange server, the Manage Folders function does not work to be able to select addition folders.
-blank HTCSETTINGS icon under System.. appears to do nothing
- 2 PHONE apps under Personal settings. Different functions, but named the same
- There is something off with trying to go into Messages from the Today screen. Takes a few clicks to actually make it work. It doesn't do it everytime.
That's all I found for the moment.. obviously WLAN option does nothing on mine
I've noticed one more thing: there's no "white dot" indicating text input with active function key. It's a bit tricky when you try to type password and you don't see what you write...
But in general it works very well. But installing "hidelogo" caused reset loop and I had to hard-reset.
Great work!
EDIT:
Change HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Today/Items/"Dial Lookup"/Type from 4 to 6 <- it will fix active-call-screen-problem Works for me.
i build new version today with all palm applications and battery test show me 14days
it is quickly then last version i upload it soon
it need some small fixes
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miloszz said:
I've noticed one more thing: there's no "white dot" indicating text input with active function key. It's a bit tricky when you try to type password and you don't see what you write...
But in general it works very well. But installing "hidelogo" caused reset loop and I had to hard-reset.
Great work!
EDIT:
Change HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Today/Items/"Dial Lookup"/Type from 4 to 6 <- it will fix active-call-screen-problem Works for me.
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white dot not working on 6.5 i must copy some from 6.1 to make it works
czech version
To Veisen:
Will you make the czech WM 6.5 clear version?
Can you describe differencies between clear and palm version and between 6.1 and 6.5 version?
Thanks.
endymion said:
To Veisen:
Will you make the czech WM 6.5 clear version?
Can you describe differencies between clear and palm version and between 6.1 and 6.5 version?
Thanks.
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clear is without palm applications and wm6.5 is fastest and stable
czech localization on wm6.5 i make soon
i can make other localized roms as deu ita spa pol .........
1st all try this english
i make localization on bug free version of 6.5

Disable Touchflo Contact Card & Call History?

I tried searching on here and other sites to disable the touchflo contact cards & Call History but have not come up with anything. I want to revert to the WM6.5 contacts and contacts cards and call history. I'm looking for performance over looks. To me the touchflo version is basically a skinned WM version IMO.
P.S. I don't feel like reading people complain asking me why I want to do this. Just answers please...
registry key changes would be your best bet in that situation, not sure how but ill try to get back to u and update what i can find, all though no one had this type of request before, this is really rare...
hey~
i think either 'diamon tweak' and/or diamond tf3d config' should do the trick. although, speaking form experiance, i had a problem with the contact tab missing from my tf3d interface and was only able to restore it w/a registry tweak....so if the programs don't do the trick you may need to search for the specific registry keys and edit them w/a regediting program.
good luck!
~j

TF3D and Mobile Shell

I keep going back and forth between the two on my Imagio, but I think once we get TF3D 2.5 I'll be able to stick with HTC's software. Question is: Will the Imagio handle it well?
BTW thanks for the resource here!
me too, I have been going back in forth between the current touchflo version on the Imagio and SPB Mobile Shell.
Has anyone come up with a tweak yet for touch flo 3d 2.5 for the Imagio.
SPB MS 3.5 for me
I have been playing with TouchFlo since the first version on the HTC Touch and it is just too much work. I downloaded MS3.5 and I couldn't be happier. It takes up fewer resources and the customization is as easy as dragging and dropping. I use the leisure theme with a five panel widget home screen. You can add picture frames as widgets among other cool items. The contact management is integrated with Facebook automatically and the smart dial is awesome. If I decide I want to do custom icons later, I can get as deep into the xml component as I want.
dbigdawg said:
I have been playing with TouchFlo since the first version on the HTC Touch and it is just too much work. I downloaded MS3.5 and I couldn't be happier. It takes up fewer resources and the customization is as easy as dragging and dropping. I use the leisure theme with a five panel widget home screen. You can add picture frames as widgets among other cool items. The contact management is integrated with Facebook automatically and the smart dial is awesome. If I decide I want to do custom icons later, I can get as deep into the xml component as I want.
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See, now, I get the whole "pretty" thing with this shell, but I found it to be just too confusing because it has a lot of redundancies. On the other hand, TouchFlo by HTC is really powerful, but it needs more "clues" to find all of its functionality. Idunno..I just wish we could get this thing hspl unlocked so that the gurus can start cooking up some new roms..
TF3D does not work for me. I need to quickly check email and delete tehm on the fly and access many parts of the phone. Why cant we load the new Sense UIon the Imagio. MS 3.5 is great but the contacts and dialer are badly broken. I cant search for contacts easily by typing parts of the name (only searches file as field) and from the dialer screen you cannot get into the details of a contact to E.G. select an alternate number to dial.
I have been trying both on my new imagio, and am currently sticking with SPBMS3.5. The main reason is that for some reason, the text messaging interface with TF3D messes up my ability to rotate to landscape when replying to a message. I am not sure why...
I have hard reset, and it works for a short period of time, because it seems to be using the standard Winmo texting interface. After receiving a message from a contact, the interface seems to switch to a custom TF3D version, and I can no longer use the landscape keyboard.
Plus I like that I can have virtually all the things I need on a sweetly configured main screen at one tap.
My two cents...
Gary
The folks over at PPCGeeks have unlocked the Imagio! And there are a number of ROMs already ready for flashing. As for TF3D and Mobile Shell, I have found no issues with TF, and with the new Cookies home tabs, its even easier for me. I tried that mobile shell, and there were too many reduntant applications, and by the time I got what I wanted set up, it was several pages between what I really needed and what I needed to go through. That, and after a couple days, my phone started to really get buggy. I finally gave up and went back to TF.
Now, that was before flashing to an Energy ROM. Things are much better now! Check out PPCGeeks HTC Imagio section, several ROMS there waiting for you!
You know I just saw those this weekend and they look very promising! Especially the MaxManilla on the horizon. I am not sure whether to go with Manilla or Cookies...Any thoughts?
As for the TF3D and texting, I did some googling and found the fix. Sorry, but I can't remember, but I think it was on PPCGeeks. Had to add some manilla reg values and change one other and voila! It works now. Still not sure if I like TF3D better than SPB, but I am giving it a shot. What I do like is that SPB can have multiple weather cities. I don't think that I like the 3D mail reader on either app.
Thanks again for the tips.
Gary

Need to activate threaded sms

Wm6.1 offers threaded sms which has been suppressed by touchwiz. I like the touchwiz black look and font spacing etc while need the threaded style. Is it possible ?
open registry editor, and got to
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\MsgTypes\IPM\SMStext\DLL\
change "mms.dll" to " htmlnote.dll "
Threading SMS for Inbox..
Go to :
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM\SMSInboxThreadingDisabled
change the value "1" to value "0".
soft reset and all done..
I haven't tried this on my Phone, as I dont need threaded SMS.. ty it for ur self and reply if it works...
Aafi-rocks said:
open registry editor, and got to
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\MsgTypes\IPM\SMStext\DLL\
change "mms.dll" to " htmlnote.dll "
Threading SMS for Inbox..
Go to :
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM\SMSInboxThreadingDisabled
change the value "1" to value "0".
soft reset and all done..
I haven't tried this on my Phone, as I dont need threaded SMS.. ty it for ur self and reply if it works...
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I know of this option and have tried it. It doesn't work as touchwiz ignores it. There is a similar option for samsung which once came up during my search but can't find it anymore. Most probably both needs to be tweaked.
Aside from the reg tweak posted already you have to do this also
Change:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Sofware\Microsoft\Inbox\MsgTypes\IPM\SMStext]
"DLL"="mms.dll"
to:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Sofware\Microsoft\Inbox\MsgTypes\IPM\SMStext]
"DLL"="htmlnote.dll"
One ques guys how do u find the registry editor?thanks in advance
boogiecornejo said:
Aside from the reg tweak posted already you have to do this also
Change:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Sofware\Microsoft\Inbox\MsgTypes\IPM\SMStext]
"DLL"="mms.dll"
to:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Sofware\Microsoft\Inbox\MsgTypes\IPM\SMStext]
"DLL"="htmlnote.dll"
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Thanks but have you tried it ? And yr experience? I think on this and other sites it is said by those who have done it that the sms process becomes extremely slow and there are additional problems as well.
This registry tweak worked for me, but I don't use touchwiz. However, if you want threaded sms but don't mind slower response, you can use the link message.lnk which points to sms-mms.exe instead of the normal tmail.exe
new2city said:
This registry tweak worked for me, but I don't use touchwiz. However, if you want threaded sms but don't mind slower response, you can use the link message.lnk which points to sms-mms.exe instead of the normal tmail.exe
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Problem is, if u do not use touchwiz & hv w6.1, u might throw away this phone as, wm6.1 was just not meant for touch screen. The default wm sms/mail program is ver difficult with fingers. Also there is the white on black screen of samsung and the larger font. I need to consider these issues and have been repeated going back to touchwiz
bimboybimboy said:
Problem is, if u do not use touchwiz & hv w6.1, u might throw away this phone as, wm6.1 was just not meant for touch screen. The default wm sms/mail program is ver difficult with fingers. Also there is the white on black screen of samsung and the larger font. I need to consider these issues and have been repeated going back to touchwiz
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Touchwiz, sucks, but the phone is great. So, your statement is flawed.
Try other UI's instead, there are many free and more customisable ones, or other sms apps.
new2city said:
Touchwiz, sucks, but the phone is great. So, your statement is flawed.
Try other UI's instead, there are many free and more customisable ones, or other sms apps.
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If the software is always disturbing you and cannot be totally discarded then its not a perfect situation.
Re: alternate solutions, I am still looking for one under wm6.1 as 6.5 is not offered in my country. Unfortunately, there are many ideas but little for wm6.1 anywhere. So cannot call it a satisfactory situation.
Touchwiz for all its fault offer good finger based usage under wm6.1 and as I said it really like the black skin.
So is there any solution which satisfies the above requirements under wm6.1 or should I forget it and wait for 6.5 whenever that happens.
I am in the same boat.
I can upgrade to 6.5 but don't want to.
I have 6.1 and actually like Touch Wiz (more so than tf3d on my htc touch pro).

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