root before jailbreak? - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hey i got a g1 and um im going to try to follow a rot video which lets me know to put in a flashrec.apk and a recovery image...so back up then apply imgage??? but one question....do i need to jailbreak my phone before i do the root process????
oh yeh coming from a cupcake build....

Dude go to androidandme.com under hacks and reconsider rooting till you know more.

no such thing as jailbreaking an android device. Thats for Apple only thing, Android doesnt limit you from doing what the device was made to do, only need to root to gain extra functionality.
I agree though, you sounds ill-informed of the risks and consequences of rooting your phone. Do some research, consider how you would feel w/ your G1 being as useful as a 'brick', and make an informed decision.....

please sorry for asking but can you guys help
okay this is what ive done...i use the flash rec apk and then backup and applied the ra recovery img. now i can go to the recovery mode...can i apply any rom not knowing the spl?...also one last question.... if i need to unroot do i do this by appliying the dreamin.img by pressing the end and camera then apply and this should unroot it right????

Have you tried searching or reading the stickies that other members took the time to make so that beginners would find them easier? I bet if you went through these stickies in the first place this thread wouldn't exist.

um for your information no smart ass....this is a q&a right...so thats what im doing right?so if u cant help out by properly answering my question then leave...

Wow... good luck, and good luck getting help.
Final thought, tell tmo that your phone messed up when it downloaded some OTA update.

xghostyxjokerx said:
um for your information no smart ass....this is a q&a right...so thats what im doing right?so if u cant help out by properly answering my question then leave...
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LOL you sound so hardcore....
ok so tell me what jailbreaking is... im interested in hearing this. i was seriously just imagining to myself today morning what i would do if someone made a thread like this, but you caught me before i could think of an answer
youve seenthe complicated way of jailing breaking an iphone i presume. heres how complicated it is in android
open settings > applications > uncheck allow non-market apps > press yes
BAM YOUR GOOD TO GO!!!!! so tell me how rooting works out for ya

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Wow... good luck, and good luck getting help.
Final thought, tell tmo that your phone messed up when it downloaded some OTA update.
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hahaha good advice......pay attention here buddy

xghostyxjokerx said:
um for your information no smart ass....this is a q&a right...so thats what im doing right?so if u cant help out by properly answering my question then leave...
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Wow do you really want to say that. If it wasn't first thing in the morning I'm sure I would have something good to say. Just give it time.

Supreme, this is right up your alley. I expect nothing but greatness.
Free thread till a mod deletes it (which it should be)?

s15274n said:
Supreme, this is right up your alley. I expect nothing but greatness.
Free thread till a mod deletes it (which it should be)?
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Yes I know. I just need some more coffee in me to get going. I'm draggin ass this morning.

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but really dude, learn to search and read some of the guides, all your questions have been answered 100 times over. you are not special and will not be getting any special help from anyone here on such a stupid question.
you should goto the tmobile store though and let them finish the rooting for you, they are professionals and will do a really good job, some of them are nice and won't charge you the $13.79 fee either.

crpercodani said:
but really dude, learn to search and read some of the guides, all your questions have been answered 100 times over. you are not special and will not be getting any special help from anyone here on such a stupid question.
you should goto the tmobile store though and let them finish the rooting for you, they are professionals and will do a really good job, some of them are nice and won't charge you the $13.79 fee either.
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$13.79. Those s.o.b.'s I had to pay them $54.99 for them to root mine.

i go much better things to spend my money on

this one is bound for lockage. i told you grizzy, its all about craigslist.....i got some real freaks on there and they barely legal man, some college freshman snatch.

damn it those tmobile hacks overcharged you!!! its all because of the giant huge EPIC FAILURE of sidekicks.

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wtf is that? a white flava flav?

ummm, i think so and this a

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Auto app2sd tutorial

Hi is there anyone that can place a tutorial on how to get the above app working
roms do it automatically now. this is in the wrong forum....reported
sorry buddy
can anyone give me a tutorial on how to create app2sd on a 6gb class 4 card running cyanogen 4.04 and system recovery 1.4
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what you are looking for is how to partition your sdcard for ext2/3/4
There are alot of guides on how to do this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534479
First post has the instructions, but the best way although a little more difficult is to use supremeteam's guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535914
I hope he means how to partition because if he is really asking how to gets a2sd work then he must not read anything before he dl's a rom. Actually either question is retarded and points tothe OP being a giant noob that doesn't read. Why didn't we hijack this thread yet?
good point.
@porkky
have you rooted?
what rom are you running?
what recovery are you running?
if you can't answer these questions then you shouldn't respond because crpercodani is chomping at the bit to hijack this thread and I'm to much of a ***** to stop him.
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I hope he means how to partition because if he is really asking how to gets a2sd work then he must not read anything before he dl's a rom. Actually either question is retarded and points tothe OP being a giant noob that doesn't read. Why didn't we hijack this thread yet?
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Actually I put up the ol hijacked picture saying we was bout to hijack it but it must have been taken down by someone. That was the first thing I thought of when I got to work this morning. I guess just me and fingerlickin are actually doing some work on a monday.
Our hijacking has been hijacked, damn this is the 2nd time we have been ambushed.....time for the war paint.
jaaronmoody said:
roms do it automatically now. this is in the wrong forum....reported
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You need to calm down with the reporting thing ..seriously
bobdude5 said:
You need to calm down with the reporting thing ..seriously
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i think he may just have his junk in a bunch since his thread was reported lol.
david1171 said:
i think he may just have his junk in a bunch since his thread was reported lol.
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Seriously lol..I've seen like 5 threads of him doing that "reported"
bobdude5 said:
Seriously lol..I've seen like 5 threads of him doing that "reported"
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i don't think my ego got that high when i hit 263 posts.
what good does posting to say you reported the thread do? if it is that important that the thread be locked and not in the way why don't people just report it, then no one post in it? every time some idiot posts a comment in a misplaced thread in the dev section it knocks a development related thread down one, so why don't they either a. help the guy and say next time post questions in the Q&A thread, instead of chiming in just to seem like a douche.
oh well lol. you should look for his thread in the development section that had NOTHING to do with development and see how irritated he got when someone said they reported it. that was some funny stuff.
I would put up my stop snitching picture but it will prolly be taken down by a mysterious source.
No fear here
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No fear here
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LOL, there it is. Whats up codani, you gonna be on today or am I gonna have to hold the fort down.
I will be here till atleast 12, got work at 1.
crpercodani said:
I will be here till atleast 12, got work at 1.
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Good, yesterday was a slow day.
Today may have to go on without me soon. UPS just came with some pretty anl's.

I want to be a Masters' Apprentice.

Can a Master at moding phones contact me. I want to learn to do amazing things. When I learn we can work together. I know I can acheive many great things but I need to learn.
Jorgelgjr said:
Can a Master at moding phones contact me. I want to learn to do amazing things. When I learn we can work together. I know I can acheive many great things but I need to learn.
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dont expect some one to hold your hand read learn java and Linux and really just play with the os. try to set up singeing by that's a good place to start also but linux on your pc and learn some stuff about terminal. once you do that and have a understanding of what all that development entails you can contact some devs on twitter or pm once you get stuck.
i just want to add i am by no means a master just trying help you out.
Jorgelgjr said:
Can a Master at moding phones contact me. I want to learn to do amazing things. When I learn we can work together. I know I can acheive many great things but I need to learn.
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judging by your previous posts.... you should learn to use android as a user itself before you start modding everything.... not to be a downer, but "masters" want their apprentices to have SOME knowledge of phone. You will learn a lot more if you explore android yourself over the next few weeks. once you think you have experience, contact some of the devs here and see if they are willing to help. ive found that most of them are really irritated by noobs asking questions that have simple answers.
they seem to forget they were noobs too
(im guilty of this myself)
as for finding a dev here....the only dev ive seen around here in the last few weeks is jubeh (at least i think hes the only one lol)
most of the other devs stay in the dev section
Jorgelgjr said:
Can a Master at moding phones contact me. I want to learn to do amazing things. When I learn we can work together. I know I can acheive many great things but I need to learn.
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AAAHHHHHH i dectect the force is strong within this one!!!!
But beware the DANGERSPL my son, for when you begin to travall down its path
forever it will consume you !!!!!
Yes yes padawan consume u it will. Btw bill gates is ur father
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Yes yes padawan consume u it will. Btw bill gates is ur father
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"And now, the transformation is complete.nothing can stop the power of the
DANGERSPL"
"Dont worry jmon777","There is another!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
I have explored my android I know many things about it. I know how to flash new roms onto the flash memory. I upgraded the radio on my old g1 and even the spl. I just want to know how to do amazing things.
Jorgelgjr said:
I have explored my android I know many things about it. I know how to flash new roms onto the flash memory. I upgraded the radio on my old g1 and even the spl. I just want to know how to do amazing things.
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There is so much more than just that. People gave you some good suggestions on where to start.
I nominate this best thread of 2009?
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how can i become a dev?

i want to be a developer, ever since i was seven ive been playin wit phones but i never knew about any of this stuff until i got my G1. is there any way i could become one of the XDA-devs? im only 14 but im very smart and very easy to teach and a fast learner
dglowen23 said:
i want to be a developer, ever since i was seven ive been playin wit phones but i never knew about any of this stuff until i got my G1. is there any way i could become one of the XDA-devs? im only 14 but im very smart and very easy to teach and a fast learner
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well i can't tell you how to start learning how to cook ROMs, as i don't know myself
butttt to start developing some apps, you can start here .. just navigate through the site and you'll learn a lil bit there
xidominicanoix said:
well i can't tell you how to start learning how to cook ROMs, as i don't know myself
butttt to start developing some apps, you can start here .. just navigate through the site and you'll learn a lil bit there
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sweet dude ur cool as hell rite now this makes me happy, ill give it a try and let u know how it goes ok?
dglowen23 said:
i want to be a developer, ever since i was seven ive been playin wit phones but i never knew about any of this stuff until i got my G1. is there any way i could become one of the XDA-devs? im only 14 but im very smart and very easy to teach and a fast learner
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Well you should study hard, stay in school, and go to college
As long as your major's school is classified something like Electrical Engineering and Computer Science, then chances are you'll be developing
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B-man007 said:
Well you should study hard, stay in school, and go to college
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dam i have to go to college to do all this?
dglowen23 said:
dam i have to go to college to do all this?
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you dont HAVE to....but its good for for you and your country
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you dont HAVE to....but its good for for you and your country
lol i know that i plan on goin to college any ways but im sayin like i dont want to wait all the way till i get to college to do this but i mean if i have to wait then thats what i got to do... so there is no way that i can do this before goin to college?
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haha there are a lot of tutorials out here. in fact, think there was a thread like yesterday that someone asked the same thing.. lemme find it
lol ok so the android SDK, can i download that to my phone or do i have to have it on the computer?
You need it on your computer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572022
theres one
dam dude ur the best thanks... donating to u is sounding pritty good rite now well i mean nex time i get money homecoming is coming up so sum time soon i will donate man u been a great help ill definetly be lookin for u when i have a question
dglowen23 said:
dam dude ur the best thanks... donating to u is sounding pritty good rite now well i mean nex time i get money homecoming is coming up so sum time soon i will donate man u been a great help ill definetly be lookin for u when i have a question
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aha sounds good
you can always pm me if you need step-by-step
i get a lot of pm's for those
You just need to think of something that needs doing and do it
you don't even need to know java or anything to be a 'developer'.
I'd class myself as a 'developer' (albeit, not a great one) and all i do is edit some .csv files every now and again with notepad
If you want to go deep into the real developing, such as ROM cooking etc., then it's gonna take a lot of hard work!
Java's not too bad once you get your head round it, give it a fortnight and you'll be able to do all the basic stuff.
Good luck
yes and develop me some automated escort/callgirl app so i don't have to waste my minutes calling the whores!

4.1.99 made easy for noobys like me

Thought i would start this thread for ppl like me who havent got a clue how to instal 4.1.99 after getting confused on other threads, this worked for me straight away and i hope it does for you to, if you get any problems please feel free to pm me and i will try to help as best as i can
first of all download the recovery image to the pc from here
http://developer.htc.com/adp.html#s3
once downloaded place the zip file in your sd card and rename it update
power off phone
hold home and power button untill you get to recovery image
click on install sd update
once done
reboot
now download 4.1.9999 from here
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/downloads/rom
once done open your sd card and delete the previouse file called update and place the 4.1.9999 zip file on to the sd card and rename it update
power off phone
hold home and power button until you reach the recovery page
click on instal sd update
voila you should now be on 4.1.9999
thanks to other people on this website for helping me get this far
steve
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567610
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569825
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567664
Whew! Glad you started yet ANOTHER thread about upgrading to an update thats 3 behind where we are now. This upgrade has already been covered in about 20 other threads, and a one click version for those that cannot comprehend has already been introduced.
This horse is dead. Please stop beating it.
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i did say i was new to this eh lol right now to upgrade to the newer one then
cheers
steve
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Whew! Glad you started yet ANOTHER thread about upgrading to an update thats 3 behind where we are now. This upgrade has already been covered in about 20 other threads, and a one click version for those that cannot comprehend has already been introduced.
This horse is dead. Please stop beating it.
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What if I like beating a dead horse.
now updated to 4.1.9999
Still beating the dead horse
just because i am trying to help people who dont know and want an easy step by step guide i cant see why you have to take the piss, and not only do you take the piss you also ask ppl to donate if you have helped them, tbh ppl who take the piss out of ppl who dont know should be kicked from forums because they forget they have been in the same situation before so here you are thats my rant done with and if my thread has helped ppl who dont know then please send a pm to the piss takers and say to them what a bunch of idiots they really are
thank you and goodnight
steve57925 said:
just because i am trying to help people who dont know and want an easy step by step guide i cant see why you have to take the piss, and not only do you take the piss you also ask ppl to donate if you have helped them, tbh ppl who take the piss out of ppl who dont know should be kicked from forums because they forget they have been in the same situation before so here you are thats my rant done with and if my thread has helped ppl who dont know then please send a pm to the piss takers and say to them what a bunch of idiots they really are
thank you and goodnight
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I just see a bunch of piss. Piss this and piss that. But hey I wasn't directing that to you but I see it got under your skin. And yes I have a donate button, but it says if I have made you laugh, pissed you off, or have helped. And no one is pissing (i can use it too) on your thread. It's just stated that there are plenty of other threads just like this. Even David shot you the links to the other threads. And I doubt anyone is gonna call me an idiot and if they do can I call them a piss taker.
P.S. what is a piss taker?
steve57925 said:
just because i am trying to help people who dont know and want an easy step by step guide i cant see why you have to take the piss, and not only do you take the piss you also ask ppl to donate if you have helped them, tbh ppl who take the piss out of ppl who dont know should be kicked from forums because they forget they have been in the same situation before so here you are thats my rant done with and if my thread has helped ppl who dont know then please send a pm to the piss takers and say to them what a bunch of idiots they really are
thank you and goodnight
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if you cant use the search button.....what makes you think others who are so noob as to need this guide will
Note to all
show respect to ALL members on this forum
you have been warned.
Maybe we can make big yellow signs for the guide threads so new people won't miss them..... LIKE THIS
P.S. liamhere - iPhone? really? in the G1 forums? BRB gotta go take an iCrap.
liamhere said:
Iphone 3GS 16gb Black jailbroken & Unlocked
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iDon't
Droid does.
Don't forget....
There's a map for that.
very funny children
now play nice
i had a hero....now have this....i try many phones....thats what i do
good bye
liamhere said:
now play nice
i had a hero....now have this....i try many phones....thats what i do
good bye
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LOL, we'll let you slide this time.
I'm glad you got a good sense of humor.
i am english
we have a great sence of humor
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LOL, we'll let you slide this time.
I'm glad you got a good sense of humor.
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like spidey man says "every body gets one"
hey, i like to enjoy my bathroon, you are just jealous
nonchalant_joe said:
like spidey man says "every body gets one"
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but but but, i want 2 please

MY MY MY

Lol gotta love these signatures with all the "My"'s in them.....I come from a generation where the "me,my,and I" guys are just douche bags....just a hint guys....no one likes people that have to announce that its all about "you"and only you.
Personally I don't give a shiat about what you do when I see your a me,my,and I guy.
im usually the one to start threads like this haha...glad to see someone else step up to the bitter plate
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like people who have to name every single damn spec about not only their current phone, but all of their past devices since they were 13 yrs old. AND not only which ROMs, kernels, modems, themes, etc. that they ran, but which ones they had Nandroid backups of as well........so informative!!!!
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I agree, in the past ten years or so, at least in the U.S. this has been one of the worst fads. Listen to hit music, its all about clubbin and the "imma do me" thing. Incredibly selfish, but to each his own i guess.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
......and....and...and...yeah, people who have to put how many Vibrants they own, what ROM they're on, modem they're on, kernel they're on, theme they're on, boot animation they're are using, shutdown animation they're are using, market they're using, apps they're are using, AND they even go as far as putting that they are using sounds with Linda's voice...AHGRRR!
You people are gonna start again on **** that annoys you on a forum? WTF! GO GET MARRIED AND HAVE SOME ****ING KIDS (like me) so you have REAL life **** that is annoying. Not trying to diss u guys but I also come from a generation were guys complaining about little **** like that are called *****es!
Tucson, AZ. Anytime baby.
I see the shortbus filling up.....special ed here we come! :-D
on a side note all....im not exactly "*****ing"....but more stating a fact.
btw with as many explicitives as you just used,married and have kids?....I sure hope you don't talk to your wife and children like that,but I must say it sure sounds like you talk this way on a regular basis :-(
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i'm a total hypocrite, and i believe that i am the standard by which all people should live their lives. i am currently seeking therapy, but until i find adequate treatment, i will continue to try and convince people of who i am, while at the same time contradicting the very image of myself that im trying to project.
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admitting it is the first step to recovery....
Would you prefer if I put your contact info in my sig instead of my own?
If you are referring to my post....then I must say....how did you ever get to be a mod? And how long do you expect to be one with comments of such? I must say this is getting pretty childish even for moderators :-/
I see this is going to go places we don't want to...all becuz 1 mod moved it out of the vibrant forum where it was most needed to be so the people that it was refering to could read it and get a grip on reality
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
Shortbus-Driver said:
If you are referring to my post....then I must say....how did you ever get to be a mod? And how long do you expect to be one with comments of such? I must say this is getting pretty childish even for moderators :-/
I see this is going to go places we don't want to...all becuz 1 mod moved it out of the vibrant forum where it was most needed to be so the people that it was refering to could read it and get a grip on reality
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Don't diss mistress
What she was aiming at is that some people do need to use the my my my, it is their sig, however it does get annoying when they put everything in there about everything
MacaronyMax said:
Don't diss mistress
What she was aiming at is that some people do need to use the my my my, it is their sig, however it does get annoying when they put everything in there about everything
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And hence I limit my siggy to nonsensical information.
MacaronyMax said:
Don't diss mistress
What she was aiming at is that some people do need to use the my my my, it is their sig, however it does get annoying when they put everything in there about everything
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Like me?
WHY DO PPL CARE ANYWAY IS IT YOUR XDA ACCOUNT
Having too much info in your sig lets everybody know what you are using to judge the relevance of your posts.
umm what they said
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If you are referring to my post....then I must say....how did you ever get to be a mod? And how long do you expect to be one with comments of such? I must say this is getting pretty childish even for moderators :-/
I see this is going to go places we don't want to...all becuz 1 mod moved it out of the vibrant forum where it was most needed to be so the people that it was refering to could read it and get a grip on reality
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I'm sorry but I have to interject here. You think MY post was childish? Stop for a second and study your title; I can hear you now going "My My My"...not very befitting for an adult if you ask me.
Being a relatively new member, you have not had the time to really aquatint yourself with how things work around here. We have an off topic section for a reason. Things that do not pertain to a specific device or are just rants like these, do not belong in the device forums. It was not wrong of the moderator to move your post, he was doing his job.
Also, disrespecting a moderator will result in a temp ban so I advise you to be more considerate. kthks.

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