Dear Chefs,
thank you for all great work you have done so far!
I use the Energy ROM for about two months and I'm stunned about all the great features he provide.
However, there is one thing I can't stand: The lack of appointment- and task snoozing other then 5 minutes. This makes the remind function almost useless.
My German t-mobile branded TP2 (called: MDA Vario V) came with the option to snooze appointments and tasks by a selectable time. So I could choose remind me in one or half Hour for example or one day and many other options, rather than dismiss it over and over again every 5 minutes. This is really bugging me.
I found a fix from crackwhore but it seems to be not compatible with the current windows mobile 6.5 ROMs.
Because it is so important to me and, as I noticed, to many, many others I want to post a reward and invite everybody who want this feature to join me by posting how much you are willing to donate to the person who find a solution and share it with the community
A proper solution would be a fix that works for the latest generation of WM6.5 ROMs and it would be great to have it already cooked into the popular ROMs, including Energy ROM.
So if somebody finds a solution, everybody who joined me is asked to donate the promised amount to the person who provided the solution.
I start off with a offer of 10$
Feel free to join me and make suggestion.
And please be true to your word: Don't offer something you are not willing to donate.
Current Offers (25.10.2009 01:25 UTC):
10 US-$
and
0 €
Why dont you ditch MS with another commercial application in the market? Couldn't you able to find one? I dont remember it but there was a program like this. Google it I suggest.
You can set the "reminder" time as any minutes/hours/days when you add an appointment. Am I missing something here?
NVM, I solved it! I was able to replace the new Notification.dll that handles the notification bubbles with an old, stock one. See the next post for the solution I made!
Question
Did your stock German ROM have the notification manager, where you'd click the taskbar, and it brings up that full screen? And also, did it have the skinned notifications, like the EnergyROM does? Please just describe exactly how the stock ROM handled the notifications, describe it visually.
Information
I researched this for 5 hours, and I was trying to do this: I wanted to make the Notification Panel remain (Full screen when you click on Taskbar), BUT, I wanted to use the standard Windows Mobile notification popups, because those allow you to snooze better. Well, that's not possible, from what I could tell. It's either all or nothing, you can't mix Microsoft's and HTC's notification system.
Solution
So, you have to disable the entire thing, which means you won't have the finger friendly notification system when tapping on the top taskbar. You can find the registry to disable Notification Manager here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4125405&postcount=3
Advanced Notifications Power Snooze Appointments!
I solved it!! It's CABbed up, and available on my website, Wingster.
Get your solution here: http://thewingster.com/advancednotifications.aspx
And if you want to donate, then follow the link on the bottom of my Wingster website, or use this link: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=5401195
Maybe I should have waited longer, for the bounty to increase! Nah, I did this mostly for myself, but it did end up taking 5 hours! I hate registries!
How I Created It
I found the old NotificationLayout.dll, and used that one for handling the notification bubbles! This brings back the old WinMo notification style popups, but it also keeps the finger friendly notification panel! Win-win!
Imagine how fast the world is, I wish you could solve my break off with GF such a fast.
Have Fun, Cheers
Sunny
the solution that brings the old popups up, has been around since my touch x 6.0 and that is since december last year...
well well well......
Awesome. I had used the crackwhore one and it worked but this is better
ace10134 said:
Advanced Notifications Power Snooze Appointments!
I solved it!! It's CABbed up, and available on my website, Wingster.
Get your solution here: http://thewingster.com/advancednotifications.aspx
And if you want to donate, then follow the link on the bottom of my Wingster website, or use this link: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=5401195
Maybe I should have waited longer, for the bounty to increase! Nah, I did this mostly for myself, but it did end up taking 5 hours! I hate registries!
How I Created It
I found the old NotificationLayout.dll, and used that one for handling the notification bubbles! This brings back the old WinMo notification style popups, but it also keeps the finger friendly notification panel! Win-win!
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Curious before I use this, how is it different than crackwhore's fix?
jank0023 said:
Curious before I use this, how is it different than crackwhore's fix?
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FYI, crackwhore's is a better solution it doesn't eliminate the repeat function so what happens you get the alarm one time which was just as big a concern that I've had with some of the ROMs.
jank0023 said:
FYI, crackwhore's is a better solution it doesn't eliminate the repeat function so what happens you get the alarm one time which was just as big a concern that I've had with some of the ROMs.
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shiat..might I add, you can uninstall the cab but the dll has been overwritten so some how I gotta find the original and use crackwhore's or hard reset plus crackwhores.
smaberg said:
the solution that brings the old popups up, has been around since my touch x 6.0 and that is since december last year...
well well well......
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Lol dam. Wasted that effort for nothin? lol. Well we can add mine to the collection of CABs that do the exact same thing as the other
Hi,
sorry for the delay, but university was keeping me extremely busy this week.
However I'm glad you found a solution. It's so unimaginably convenient to be able to snooze the alarm!
However would it be possible to add some options? There is still room on the display for one option isn't it?
Very handy would be having options like four and twelve hours (half day).
I would rather surrender 10 minutes while already having 5 and 15 minutes.
(or maybe better: surrender 15 minutes while keeping 10)
However the current stage of development is already great and of cause I will stand my word of donating 10 bucks.
I invite everybody who like this fix to also support him since he was fair enough of not "waiting" for the bounty to increase first and he's doing a great job with his website anyway.
Best Regards, Time
PS: You are talking about other - already existing - solutions? I only found crackwhores fix and didn't get it to work. Well now I have a great one-click-solution I won't surrender ... would be just interesting to know.
PPS:
Question
Did your stock German ROM have the notification manager, where you'd click the taskbar, and it brings up that full screen? And also, did it have the skinned notifications, like the EnergyROM does? Please just describe exactly how the stock ROM handled the notifications, describe it visually.
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By next week I will flash my ROM anyway so I could flash the stock ROM in between and check if that helps. Interested?
TheTimetraveler said:
PPS:
By next week I will flash my ROM anyway so I could flash the stock ROM in between and check if that helps. Interested?
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Yea, flash the stock German ROM, and see how that operates. It'd be very interesting if they kept the advanced snooze options while keeping the slick notification style too.
I think that editing the DLL's is impossible though, but I guess it'd be worth a try. My initial goal was to keep the skinned notifications but add the snoozing. That'd be the optimal goal, and I will try to see if that can be done!
ace10134 said:
Advanced Notifications Power Snooze Appointments!
I solved it!! It's CABbed up, and available on my website, Wingster.
Get your solution here: http://thewingster.com/advancednotifications.aspx
And if you want to donate, then follow the link on the bottom of my Wingster website, or use this link: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=5401195
Maybe I should have waited longer, for the bounty to increase! Nah, I did this mostly for myself, but it did end up taking 5 hours! I hate registries!
How I Created It
I found the old NotificationLayout.dll, and used that one for handling the notification bubbles! This brings back the old WinMo notification style popups, but it also keeps the finger friendly notification panel! Win-win!
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Sorry ace
it doesnt work for my TP2 with valkyrie.ftp v5.8.23534 wm6.5 15th feb (without footprint\doc)
the cab installs fine but no love when it comes to notifications
spiro said:
Sorry ace
it doesnt work for my TP2 with valkyrie.ftp v5.8.23534 wm6.5 15th feb (without footprint\doc)
the cab installs fine but no love when it comes to notifications
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Yourestarted your phone after installing it, right? Maybe his ROM has some different notification system...I could try to look into it if you can confirm it still didn't take effect after a restart.
ace10134 said:
Yourestarted your phone after installing it, right? Maybe his ROM has some different notification system...I could try to look into it if you can confirm it still didn't take effect after a restart.
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Yes I restarted the phone after installation but it didnt work
I would reeeeeally Appreciate it if you could look into it
You dont even need to make a .cab file, just give me some guidance on how to replace the .dll you mentioned in your post that worked
spiro said:
Yes I restarted the phone after installation but it didnt work
I would reeeeeally Appreciate it if you could look into it
You dont even need to make a .cab file, just give me some guidance on how to replace the .dll you mentioned in your post that worked
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Well.....
First, download This File, unzip it, and place the DLL in the \Windows directory of your phone.
Now, here's where it may be different, apparently. Using a registry editor (like PHM Registry), try to find the string that is called CustomUIDLL and contains NotificationLayout.dll.
That string key should be located under HKLM/System/Shell/Notification/OEM, however since the CAB didn't work, Valkyrie must have changed the location of the registry key. See if you can find it. Once you do, change the string value to: "NotificationLayoutOld.dll"
Hopefully that'll get it working!
ace10134 said:
Well.....
First, download This File, unzip it, and place the DLL in the \Windows directory of your phone.
Now, here's where it may be different, apparently. Using a registry editor (like PHM Registry), try to find the string that is called CustomUIDLL and contains NotificationLayout.dll.
That string key should be located under HKLM/System/Shell/Notification/OEM, however since the CAB didn't work, Valkyrie must have changed the location of the registry key. See if you can find it. Once you do, change the string value to: "NotificationLayoutOld.dll"
Hopefully that'll get it working!
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Thanks man!
Ill try it and post back
spiro said:
Thanks man!
Ill try it and post back
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OK.
Under HKLM/System/Shell/Notification/OEM i have one folder named "reminder" and 3 other items named "default", " customUIDLL", and "userdefaultUI"
if i click on customUIDLL the string already reads "NotificationLayoutOld.dll" ( iguess from when I applied the .cab file) so there is nothing to change!
Also here is a screenshot of the contents in the HKLM/System/Shell/Notification/OEM/reminder folder that I mentioned above
should i be editing the autodismissextendedduration file?
BTW I forgot to mention that when i install the cab file instead of "snooze' at the bottom bar I get the "menu' on the right and also another symbol on the left (like a phone with an 'x' next to it" but if i click on any of them the notification goes away and does not come back
So in essence the .cab works (because it points it to something else) but the location it point to, doesnt contain the necessary file to show up when you click on the the "menu' icon or the other icon that comes up SORRY I DIDNT MENTION THAT EARLIER BUT I WASNT AWARE OF IT TILL NOW.....
Related
I just installed the latest build of PointUI (www.pointui.com) on my TyTN II, and really like the slick interface and touch capability. Anyone else running this app, and if so have you run into any issues? The fact that the software will remain a free product makes it worth the "testing".
Thanks.
James
Theres a couple of threads on this already. I have installed it but my TyTN II locks up every time within 2 minutes of starting, even after a soft-reset so have given up for now.
I may give it another go when they fix all the bugs listed on their forums and add more features to make it more usable and by then hopefully my lockup issues will be solved as well.
I did use it for some days but I hate that the 'close' button is not an actual close button at all. It just minimizes the app instead of closing it. So it is very memory consuming.
But I did like the interface and the way it worked. Just wait a little longer to have them some issues solved.
plexat they have just fixed the close program issue today with this update
http://www.pointui.com/files/tests/hardwarekeys2/home.zip
Copy the exe over the old one and you now have a close button instead of a minimize one!
It also fixes the issue with hardware buttons not working.
the background color is horrid and the icons are goofy. but the app itself is pretty slick and i like the update manager.
i haven't used it that much, but the only bug i've experienced is while swiping my finger from side to side to move the applet ribbon the touch cube activates. i didn't know it could activate with a side to side motion.
anyway, for a beta product this thing is incredible. it has huge potential. after revisions, i think this will be a must-have app.
just installed it on my phone and it works for about 2 mins before freezing, once already its reduced my screen to randon red and yellow dots, so thats getting uninstalled.
shame really as the 5 mins i did get to spend playing with it i was quite impressed
or i would if it had a proper uninstaller
very nice!
Just installed this in a WM6 emulator (having no real WM6 hardware at this time) and I must say it is superb! It feels like an iPhone (heresy to say something around here, I know). I almost have to say that it is better then TouchFLO (Yet another heresy to say something around here).
Desktopflame said:
plexat they have just fixed the close program issue today with this update
http://www.pointui.com/files/tests/hardwarekeys2/home.zip
Copy the exe over the old one and you now have a close button instead of a minimize one!
It also fixes the issue with hardware buttons not working.
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This is a great update! I didn't like the idea of all my apps running in the background. Thanks for pointing this out.
yay! it lets me get to the hardware buttons!
Desktopflame said:
plexat they have just fixed the close program issue today with this update
http://www.pointui.com/files/tests/hardwarekeys2/home.zip
Copy the exe over the old one and you now have a close button instead of a minimize one!
It also fixes the issue with hardware buttons not working.
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Thank you very much. This is way better than before.
Btw How did you know where to get the file from?? I am registered at the forum but see no file section??
plexat said:
Thank you very much. This is way better than before.
Btw How did you know where to get the file from?? I am registered at the forum but see no file section??
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No problem. I dont really know how I found it I have a tendancy to go to forums and open all threads that interest me by holding ctrl down and clicking on them. Then I read through and close them as I go.
I just happened to come across the update in one of the threads I was reading! One of the developers had posted a link to the file in the middle of a thread.
diar said:
the background color is horrid and the icons are goofy. but the app itself is pretty slick and i like the update manager.
i haven't used it that much, but the only bug i've experienced is while swiping my finger from side to side to move the applet ribbon the touch cube activates. i didn't know it could activate with a side to side motion.
anyway, for a beta product this thing is incredible. it has huge potential. after revisions, i think this will be a must-have app.
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The cube activating is due to your touchflo config file. All you need to do is edit the config file to exclude pointui and the cube will not activate while pointui is open.
badaccent said:
Just installed this in a WM6 emulator (having no real WM6 hardware at this time) and I must say it is superb! It feels like an iPhone (heresy to say something around here, I know). I almost have to say that it is better then TouchFLO (Yet another heresy to say something around here).
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Where did you get an emulator from, i would be interested in this.
PointUI - some notes
Great app, but the problem is it cannot start my 3G connection when e.g. updating weather, or using update manager.
DAMN!
When I start the connection manually from normal WM6 interface, it works then, but it's annoying...
Any help with this?
Thanks,
Gabriel
You know, the saddest part about it all is that even with our $700+ dollar devices (unless you're like me and sold your soul to AT&T... $150 Kaiser baby!) we're all dying for a UI like this. Tell you what, if it wasn't for you guys and the xda-developers community, there's no way in hell I would have gotten this phone. Dutty's ROMs are magical stuff, man. Tell you what, after a few more weeks/months of dev. and a full version with a less... erm... blue background, I'd pay $50 for this program if it allows me to get through my day without ever seeing any part of the traditional Windows Mobile UI. I'd pick it up for $100 if they included integrated task manager, file explorer, media player, web browser, and other essential software. Hell, I'd gladly go higher if they allowed me to never have to see any part of Windows Mobile GUI again. The Kaiser kills the iPhone in functionality (that's why we're all here, right?), but man pointUI is a step in the right direction towards closing the "sexiness" gap.
Okay, rant over.
I'm note sure I would pay $100 for the UI, but I do agree that this is exactly what Windows Mobile needs. Overall function is great and with just a few minor fixes/changes this would be the killer app for any WM device.
nvrnuff said:
You know, the saddest part about it all is that even with our $700+ dollar devices (unless you're like me and sold your soul to AT&T... $150 Kaiser baby!) we're all dying for a UI like this. Tell you what, if it wasn't for you guys and the xda-developers community, there's no way in hell I would have gotten this phone. Dutty's ROMs are magical stuff, man. Tell you what, after a few more weeks/months of dev. and a full version with a less... erm... blue background, I'd pay $50 for this program if it allows me to get through my day without ever seeing any part of the traditional Windows Mobile UI. I'd pick it up for $100 if they included integrated task manager, file explorer, media player, web browser, and other essential software. Hell, I'd gladly go higher if they allowed me to never have to see any part of Windows Mobile GUI again. The Kaiser kills the iPhone in functionality (that's why we're all here, right?), but man pointUI is a step in the right direction towards closing the "sexiness" gap.
Okay, rant over.
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I cannot agree more than what you say. HTC is a superb tool designed by engineers with some "help" from designer people. I love it, but my god the interface is sometimes not sexy at all (just compare the icons of pointui as an exemple
Iphone is a superb tool made by designers. I love it from a purely design point of view, but it lacks a lot of things engineers love (openness, 3G+, GPS, etc.)
Now the TYTNII plus a pointUI type interface would be the top must. The very few minutes I spent with pointUI, I loved it. I will keep it as soon as it really work and have more customization.
Now, I am sticked to HTC, because it is quite easier to adapt a new interface to an existing device, than the contrary
Thx
hi, i just downloaded this PointUI but i dun quite like it yet..so i decided to uninstall it. The problem is now my left softkey is stuck with 'Home' even after uninstalling and removing everything that is PointUI related (i think i've done everthing )
so, would anyone be kind enough to teach me what to do next?! please!!
thanks in advance!!
leslieyim said:
hi, i just downloaded this PointUI but i dun quite like it yet..so i decided to uninstall it. The problem is now my left softkey is stuck with 'Home' even after uninstalling and removing everything that is PointUI related (i think i've done everthing )
so, would anyone be kind enough to teach me what to do next?! please!!
thanks in advance!!
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Read the uninstall instructions on the PointUI forums.
leslieyim said:
hi, i just downloaded this PointUI but i dun quite like it yet..so i decided to uninstall it. The problem is now my left softkey is stuck with 'Home' even after uninstalling and removing everything that is PointUI related (i think i've done everthing )
so, would anyone be kind enough to teach me what to do next?! please!!
thanks in advance!!
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I had the same.. fairly easy to fix:
get yourself a registry editor (PHM for example)
navigate to: \HKCU\software\microsoft\today\keys\112
change: Default string to 'phone' (from Home)
change: Open string to '\windows\cprog.exe'
then i'd do a soft reset.
should work..
hth.
cant find it anywhere. can someone post it here thanks.
nevermind...
aih1977 said:
cant find it anywhere. can someone post it here thanks.
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Its from Schaps. Use him rom. and Read, Read.
I originally replied because I thought he wanted the long press end key. After reading the request carefully, I realized he wants the long press POWER key, which I've only seen natively on the Polaris... This would be a cool CAB to have
make a shortcut to whatever program you want, rename it to Long_Power.lnk and put in windows folder
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356322
hma4 said:
make a shortcut to whatever program you want, rename it to Long_Power.lnk and put in windows folder
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356322
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Yep, as hma4 originally pointed out, this works with Long_Power, Short_Power, Long_Send, Short_Send, Long_End, Short_End, etc, etc...
i am looking for the program that schaps has on his rom. i have requested it from him and i never got any reply. i want the program so i can assign it to the power button.
Mayb someone can re-make that app.
Dunno why schaps hasn't released it yet. I've seen it on 2 more non-schaps ROMS :O
he doesnt want to release it for public use. he wanted to keep it exclusive to him rom.
others have been able to crack the process.
antnee said:
he doesnt want to release it for public use. he wanted to keep it exclusive to him rom.
others have been able to crack the process.
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Indeed I have been able to crack it, but I will not share how I did it as I suspect that Schaps wants to keep it exclusive for his roms only. If he does not make it public available, I will write a similar app when I find some free time & release it to the community as I believe that it gives some added value to our roms!
If you would like to speed up the process, feel free to donate me something... hehe...
?????
antnee said:
he doesnt want to release it for public use. he wanted to keep it exclusive to him rom.
others have been able to crack the process.
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I am sorry that I read from that, I thought here we all help to go forward together.
If I could crack it, i would release it. Whole community is waiting for it!
Soon!!
xmoo said:
If I could crack it, i would release it. Whole community is waiting for it!
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Some people are working on, soon everyone can download this utility.
All for one and one for all, a universal rule of friendship.
lele.d said:
Some people are working on, soon everyone can download this utility.
All for one and one for all, a universal rule of friendship.
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Well, the files are easy enough to extract. In my experience, the app just won't run by itself. I think it's looking for a registry key.
I'm also not comfortable about hacking an application and releasing it for public use when it's author has clearly stated that he doesn't want it circulating for public use (and wants it used in his ROMs only).
_Alex_ said:
Well, the files are easy enough to extract. In my experience, the app just won't run by itself. I think it's looking for a registry key.
I'm also not comfortable about hacking an application and releasing it for public use when it's author has clearly stated that he doesn't want it circulating for public use (and wants it used in his ROMs only).
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Even I don't like to manipulate the work of others, I reported only what I read around the web.
I asked the author a public version of this utility but my request was ignored as if I had asked who knows what.
I would have liked at least one negative answer just to be correct even if I do not agree.
lele.d said:
Even I don't like to manipulate the work of others, I reported only what I read around the web.
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Now isn't that what we're doing with HTC's OEM Apps? I mean they only want the Kaiser 3G Dialer on Kaiser devices but we're putting it on Hermes (just on example of many)?
Unless it is commercial (for sale) software then I would say it falls in line with every HTC OEM App....
Clarification
kyphur said:
Now isn't that what we're doing with HTC's OEM Apps? I mean they only want the Kaiser 3G Dialer on Kaiser devices but we're putting it on Hermes (just on example of many)?
Unless it is commercial (for sale) software then I would say it falls in line with every HTC OEM App....
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I was referring to the utility made by other members of the forum, it's nice not having to work twice when the person who created the utility in a few minutes can make public (as here not sell anything) taking high reputation for its developer, in addition we are many and many nationalities, some people may have difficulty with a WWE Rom rather than in his own language.
Now also Alex his roms have this app. Home come there still is no cab???
To replace this beautiful app (hope one day Dutty will be friend of Schap's ; ), how can I make a shortcut to shutdown my Kaiser? I've tried several apps (poweroff - installreboot - xpshutdown), and shutdown functions only stand-by screen.
And I don't want to install SPB software or 'heavy apps' just for one function...
Had a look in registry (HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power) but don't really know which key is used when I long press the power button.
Thank for any suggestion!!
danm when i first saw the title of this thread i was hoping that someone found the cab to the program, but unfortunetly people here are still looking for it.
Hi everyone... I am trying to find out a few things about my new phone. I am brand new to Windows Mobile, coming from a blackberry, and have done much searching on here, but haven't found exactly what I'm looking for.
I have found tons of posts on how to disable threaded texts. Not sure why anyone would want to do this, (I'm still used to my blackberry, and I love the threaded texts)... so I am wondering how I get that, because mine must be already disabled. Mine only shows the messages that were sent to me. I did get a program from a guy I work with called Xtreme text, which is ok, but kind of slow.
Also, I would like to know if I can disable or at least change the sound that my phone makes when I send a sms. I went into sounds and turned off notifications, and that turned it off, but it also turned off the sound for when I receive a text.
I saw that there are different operating systems I guess they are, and some of them maybe would give me the things I'm looking for, but a lot of them say that the transcriber has been disabled, and that is the whole reason I had to lose the Blackberry, because we are using a new program at work and I need to be able to have my phone signed with the stylus.
I would appreciate any help I can get. Thanks!
Welcome to xda-devs! consider this your "get questions anwered without just being to sold to search" pass.
Threaded texts are not natively supported in WM6. You must flash a WM6.1 rom for natively supported threaded texts. Flashing roms is really fun and kind of addicting (at least imho). There are currently 2 methods for flashing roms- USPL and Hard-SPL. Your phone is protected from rom changing with a "CID-Lock" that is built into the SPL of your phone. The USPL uses a temporary SPL to disable the lock where as Hard-SPL flashes a totally new SPL that has no CID-lock.
Romwise, we do not yet have an abundance of cooks. We have two main cooks, itje and ttran. They make the "Touch-it" and "Open Touch" roms, respectively.
Now about the transcriber. The transcriber takes the text that you write and translates it into text. I am not sure what program you could use to actually sign documents.
Welcome to xda-devs!
Thanks fzzy! Ok, so in your opinion, what would be the easier way for a newb to do this, and what would be the flash that I wanted to use? I am totally new to all of this and will need step by step instructions on how to do all of it without turning my phone into a paperweight.
Any suggestions and help will be awesome! The main things I want are the threaded texting, and to be able to scroll through my contacts with my finger like the iphone I guess. Also, I would really like for the phone not to make that bell noise when I send an sms. The thing with the transcriber i believe is built into the program that we will be using, but the ability for the phone to accept the movement of the stylus needs to be active still.
Thank You!
read this!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369397
How2flash!!!
Very important.....
And if you hard-spl... you can test any rom you want....
Yeppers. As fzzyrn said, you don't need the transcriber since all that does is translate what you write into words. If you do want it, though, you can built a ROM using my kitchen that includes it.
Romwise, we do not yet have an abundance of cooks. We have two main cooks, itje and ttran. They make the "Touch-it" and "Open Touch" roms, respectively.
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Boo hoo, no body loves me. I'm gonna built one ROM with every configuration possible with my kitchen and release it so that people will start talking about my Clean series ROMs. hehehe
Hmm I still don't really understand what any of that means. Maybe I will just have to learn to like this phone the way it is.
It does say though, under "programs you need" that you need active sync if you have XP. What if you are using Vista?
I am going to keep reading posts to find out as much as I can, but this is all pretty confusing to me so far...
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Hmm I still don't really understand what any of that means. Maybe I will just have to learn to like this phone the way it is.
It does say though, under "programs you need" that you need active sync if you have XP. What if you are using Vista?
I am going to keep reading posts to find out as much as I can, but this is all pretty confusing to me so far...
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My suggestion:
1. USE your device about a few weeks. You never tune a car before you tested it.
2. Meanwhile READ, READ, READ and you will understand WinMobile etc.... and Activesync and WMDC on Vista
3. NOW start searching apps you want to try....
4. And now think about falshing a tuned up Operating system....
But please take time for 1-3!!!!!!!
@ ivan: WE love you!!
But the great super working Moderator was also missed.
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@ ivan: WE love you!!
But the great super working Moderator was also missed.
hahahahahahahaha
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lol. It's ok, I love the moderator's work, too!
Together, we can be "The Forgotten."
Would it maybe be easier for me to just try the palm threaded sms program, since that's really the biggest thing I want? Also, does anyone know how to turn off that stupid annoying sound that comes up and says message sent? That thing is really annoying me!
Thanks!
Landocommando12 said:
Would it maybe be easier for me to just try the palm threaded sms program, since that's really the biggest thing I want? Also, does anyone know how to turn off that stupid annoying sound that comes up and says message sent? That thing is really annoying me!
Thanks!
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you got to reg edit it(use a reg editor like PHM Reg edit0
then go to HKLM(hey_local_machine)\software\microsoft\inbox\settings
SMSNoSentMsg = 1
you might have to create the value...
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you got to reg edit it(use a reg editor like PHM Reg edit0
then go to HKLM(hey_local_machine)\software\microsoft\inbox\settings
SMSNoSentMsg = 1
you might have to create the value...
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Ok, sorry but I'm really new to this... is this reg editor something I run on the phone, or on the computer while the phone is connected to it?
Thanks
youhave to install PHM reg edit to your phone or use this on your desktop computer(attached):
ok, so I started the regeditor and connected my phone, and went into HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Inbox but then there is no settings folder, only "Ldapinfo", "sendDriver", and "Svc". Any suggestions on where to go from there?
Thank you!
here i created a cab file for you.
just copy it to your wing then click it and it will fix this sent message thing
hmm I copied it and clicked it, and it opened a bunch of text in IE, but it didn't stop the message sent notification. Not sure if I did something wrong or what...
lordy lordy. how'd i forget ivan? haha.
we should also add albert now what with his carbon rom, eh?
oh by the way, you need to click it from your device, not form your computer. trix is for kids (get it?). oh and you should get some "cab via activesync" software so you don't hafe to repeatedly copy and open.
so it didnt install at all?
i tried it on my wing and showed this:
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so it didnt install at all?
i tried it on my wing and showed this:
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haha yeah i know its just i made that cab for him nd it "didnt work" but i think Fzzyrn helped him
Hello,
Before my Diamond I had a Motorola v3 Razr. The Razr did give a sms notification every minute or so. When I received a sms, it gives notifications until i read the SMS. The Diamond only flashes the led light. Is it possible to let the Diamond vibrate every 3 minutes or so when there is an unread SMS?
Thnx in advance
Anybody an idear?
settings/personal/sound and notifications/sound (events and notifications on)
settings/personal/sound and notifications/notifications (go look for mms/sms, check "play sound", check "display message on screen", check "vibrate" or choose any combination).
now say thank you and go ...RTFM! (Read The F... Manual) before you post.
i also recommend a search on the forum. don't be lazy...
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settings/personal/sound and notifications/sound (events and notifications on)
settings/personal/sound and notifications/notifications (go look for mms/sms, check "play sound", check "display message on screen", check "vibrate" or choose any combination).
now say thank you and go ...RTFM! (Read The F... Manual) before you post.
i also recommend a search on the forum. don't be lazy...
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A bit rude and not even an answer for his question......
He is looking for REPEATED notifications......something SPBPhoneSuite can do for example. There may be other programs out there for the same purpose, don´t know of any freeware, though....
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A bit rude and not even an answer for his question......
He is looking for REPEATED notifications......something SPBPhoneSuite can do for example. There may be other programs out there for the same purpose, don´t know of any freeware, though....
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1. sorry you think so. don't get it ...what's rude? my 2 last recommendations?
2. the notification stays on the screen until you dismiss it, so why repeat? as a matter of fact i am not so sure it is not repeating...
i do know for sure that reminders do repeat so i can guess that all notifications are repeating.
i think he is looking for repeated sound notifications.
I'm very sorry when i offended some of you with my question, but the last post sums it all up. I'm looking for a repeating sound/vibration notification. I will try SPBPhoneSuite, but i'm not font on installing an whole " heavy" program for such small things. So when there is an alternative...please let me know
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=368137Kukuriku - arrogance and rudeness are sometimes difficult to distinguish, but both are bad.
I did a freeware solution - DmsisAlert
Hi, i did a simple application that works on Windows Mobile 5 or superior (.Net CF 3.5 is a requirement).
To download go to DmsisAlert page and click on DmsisAlert link, unzip, tranfer the .cab file and install. If you like (or not), i will appreciate some feedback (you can do that on download page).
With Diamond is a good idea not to use the minimize functionality because after that there is no way to get interface back (allthough it still running on the background). I will work on a solution for that (i'm busy enjoying my new phone ).
hope that can help, helps me a lot
Dan
Hi dmoreira,
I like your thoughts about the program. I tryed it, but it gave an error. Nullexeception or something...
Dmsis Alert - SMS Notification periodic
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Hi dmoreira,
I like your thoughts about the program. I tryed it, but it gave an error. Nullexeception or something...
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Thanks for trying... the program requirements are: Windows Mobile 5 or superior and .Net CF 3.5. I tested on WM5 and WM6.1 (Kaiser and Diamond) and run ok for me. Maybe you device are missing some requirement?!
Dan
Rik_X said:
I'm very sorry when i offended some of you with my question, but the last post sums it all up. I'm looking for a repeating sound/vibration notification. I will try SPBPhoneSuite, but i'm not font on installing an whole " heavy" program for such small things. So when there is an alternative...please let me know
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Dude, try Best Reminder:
http://best-reminder.en.softonic.com/pocketpc
It ain't freeware, but its light and does the job perfectly every time.
I did use SPB phonesuite before, and I found it heavy with other features I don't need. Also, the damn thing didn't work at times!
try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405071&highlight=sms+reminder+vibrate
and free, always check the 'Development and Hacking' forum
@dmoreira: What requirement can that be? I have an stock diamond, with latest romupdate en .Net CF 3.5?
@MasK: That's i very nice program. I tested it, and it does the job except for the vibrating!
@badaas: That's another very nice program. I also tested this one and it works perfect. Except that it turns on the screen with every reminder... And you have to reboot the device to configurate it again...
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@dmoreira: What requirement can that be? I have an stock diamond, with latest romupdate en .Net CF 3.5?
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Sorry, a made some fix in some peace of code that depending of device could rise exception and i think the problem was solved.
I'm attaching the application here to let things easier.
Dan
Rik_X said:
@MasK: That's i very nice program. I tested it, and it does the job except for the vibrating!
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Yea.. I know.. but it's ok for me. If yr phone is in silent mode, it vibrates instead.
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Sorry, a made some fix in some peace of code that depending of device could rise exception and i think the problem was solved.
Dan
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Ok it works just fine! Very nice program! But if i can say 3 things about it:
- The minimize function still doesn't work to well
- You cannot delete the program via the "delete programs" way
- I really like the phone to not only notify me via sound, but also via vibration? Is this possible?
thnx!
Rik_X said:
Ok it works just fine! Very nice program! But if i can say 3 things about it:
- The minimize function still doesn't work to well
- You cannot delete the program via the "delete programs" way
- I really like the phone to not only notify me via sound, but also via vibration? Is this possible?
thnx!
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before anything thanks for trying my work... about your comments:
"- The minimize function still doesn't work to well" : You're correct, but in others devices without TouchFlo3D the minimize works a lot better. With TouchFlo3D this feature practically doen'st work (i believe that's the same for other applications that have a minimize function that puts an Icon in the Today Screen).
"- You cannot delete the program via the "delete programs" way": A fix for that will be available very soon
"- I really like the phone to not only notify me via sound, but also via vibration? Is this possible?": It's possible but i dont like the result of doing this with the easiest way, so this feature will be available not so soon (but i will adivise here when so).
I will make some changes and post here a new version with some improvements.
Thanks again for trying.
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"- The minimize function still doesn't work to well" : You're correct, but in others devices without TouchFlo3D the minimize works a lot better. With TouchFlo3D this feature practically doen'st work (i believe that's the same for other applications that have a minimize function that puts an Icon in the Today Screen).
"- You cannot delete the program via the "delete programs" way": A fix for that will be available very soon
"- I really like the phone to not only notify me via sound, but also via vibration? Is this possible?": It's possible but i dont like the result of doing this with the easiest way, so this feature will be available not so soon (but i will adivise here when so).
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I like testing this program, because it meets almost my exact criteria for such a program! Nice work!
- That minimize function is a pity, but understandable with the TF3D thing!
- Ok if you can fix that 'delete programs' issue, that would be very nice. I don't have a clue how i can properly delete it now!
- I will wait on a fix for the vibrating! That would be very nice!
Keep up the good work!
Thnx!
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Rik_X said:
I like testing this program, because it meets almost my exact criteria for such a program! Nice work!
- That minimize function is a pity, but understandable with the TF3D thing!
- Ok if you can fix that 'delete programs' issue, that would be very nice. I don't have a clue how i can properly delete it now!
- I will wait on a fix for the vibrating! That would be very nice!
Keep up the good work!
Thnx!
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Hi Rik_X, after a lot of work (i posted the issue in different forums, but got no answer) trying finding a correct solution to uninstall and i ended downloading SkTools (i downloaded from here http://www.clickapps.com/download.htm?pvid=1324) and use a feature called Installed Programs and then Dmsis Alert was listed and i was able to uninstall it!! After that i install the version attached here and then the Dmsis Alert will appear again in the Windows Mobile Remove Program list. Sorry about the troubles that error could cause you.
Anyway i'm posting the last version the doesn't have this uninstall issue. I'm also working on the vibrate feature (still looking a direct interop way to do that).
So you say you want a cup of Joe, or a MilkShake, or some other secret code word for a lil’ something in your PayPal account for your work, creativity and energy? Hey, this NEWBIE is all for it – hell, I’m glad to donate; but I be needed some help!
Where I’m at – right now, the Midwest USA, Omaha Nebraska to be specific. Where I’m at with my phone / HH device – it is a work issued HTC Touch Pro. I’ve had it about 3 months now, Alltel is my carrier and it came with a CRAP boring, dull grey Theme that can’t be changed, allegedly, when I’m using the Touch Flo3D.
Work offers several carriers; Verizon guys with the same phone have a much cooler “stock” theme – and oh sure, I can mess with the Today setting and get some goop red called Guava Bubbles to linger above and below in the bands, but mostly, it really sucks. Plus, the damn thing is slow – I hit my 4 code password and 1 out of 4 times the damn thing says I have the wrong PW – no I don’t you beyotch, I KNOW my password. Weather? I can UbitchInStein in Upper Mongolia but not the town I grew up in, Boulder Colorado, WTF is up with that?
I know just enough about technology to be dangerous – I can find the ROM versions and all that stuff, navigate config files a little, copy files using Active Sync and so on – and hey, my RingTones rock (http://sites.google.com/site/bcwsite4now/Home/filecabine) I can strip the hell out of a DVD, edit using Adobe Premier Elements and you might laugh your ass off if you know the movie scenes.
But for the life of me I can’t figure out this deal I downloaded called Manila Editor from Sascha Lange and Dimitry (you guys sound like Russian mob, please don’t kill me) - and now I’m reading this Manila Customizer - Customize Clocks, Icons, Sliders etc [1 Nov] New Version thread from Gramps or Grumps or the Gimp from Pulp Fiction (see Ringtone reference) above and it starts to look like I am getting close – Clocks, Icons, Sliders – hmm, that’s what I want, and really cool ones!!
So I DL and UZ a bunch of stuff from some thread and now I have some cool looking graphics in a bunch of folders on my PC that look like they work together in a TouchFlo 3D setting, but I have no friggin idea how to get them from my hard drive to my phone without brickin’ the damn phone; remember, work issue phone. {http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2891202#post2891202}
Plus, over at PPC Geeks or some other board, they were all hot on some TouchFlo 3D speeder upper program and steps with a new Stock Watcher Icon using the 3G network and a better Weather app; so I PM a dude over there about 45 days ago and he tells me, “yo, newbie, read a bunch and then PM me back.”
Dude, I have 3 kids, all under 6 and a wife who likes me to do dishes once in awhile, read a bunch of stuff on Google and THEN ask for help? No thanks, I’d rather pay your arse. So, the end of my story goes like this – who wants to help me and what is your price?
Can I make my own icons, sliders and clock graphics using PhotoShop or some other program? If so, what sizes should I aim for in each at what resolution?
How do I get all the cool **** on my PC now to my phone? Say I wanted to pick one of the themes, I think, like Panosha Shine 2.2 on my phone and ditch Mister Alltel BoreMeToFngTearsGrey?
What can I do to speed this ***** up? Add the Stock Application, and make the Weather App a little bit more relevant to my small Midwest World?
My dream phone, and your personal challenge: A faster HTC Touch Pro with a rocking U2 theme in black, red and grey or white that snags icons from the album All That You Can’t Leave Behind or How to Dismantle An Atomic Bomb and a cool clock that uses the font from the album War circa 1982 – hey, I’m old. It will have this much rumored, never seen by me improved Weather App and this Stock Market app so I can watch my 401K tank to 187K 24/7.
If someone can make all that happen, Monster Size Milkshakes and Jumbo Coffee all around!
Thanx for reading my rant.
No PMs plz – email [email protected]
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Is there a better site for folks like me -- was the potential for milkshakes and joe offensive?
I thought it was funny; maybe it wasn't? And, no comments on the Pulp Fiction ringtones??
Someone help me with the nuances of a programmer's onlline community -- there is talent out here galore; maybe I'm just 'lookin' for love in all the wrong places' -- figure of speech only.
In the immortal words of Jim Rome, Newbie is out!
I think you should try NRG's Energy ROM. It's already customized with a slew of tweaks and additional software. In addition to that you can use Showaco's BBExtreme theme for TF3D2. It's gonna take SOME reading to learn about your device so you don't brick it...and if that's gonna be a problem then I'll tell ya like I told my dad.....just get an iPhone. They're already setup outta the box with very little understanding required
1) Flash HardSPL to your device. Only have to do this once.
2) Flash EnergyROM 04052009 version. Link is on 1st page of his thread. I always flash from the sd card...safer, easier, faster, more portable. Simply plug your device into computer with usb cable and select disk drive. Copy 'RAPHIMG.nbh' to the root of storage card. Make a backup of everything. Then:
Hold down the Volume Down key while u press and release the reset button. Follow directions on the screen. After the screen appears for you to tap and align the screen, Hard Reset (Hold Vol down + Center button, then press and release reset button)
3) Copy BBExtreme cab to your storage card and click it to install. Soft reset, and you're done.
I'm afraid others are just as busy as you. I have 5 week-old twins at home and I read these forums while holding a bottle in their mouths. It's highly unlikely that anyone is going to spend hours to customize your device for you, and then provide customer service for the things that don't work exactly as they should. It takes time to learn these devices, I've been at it for over 5 years and still consider myself a noob. Good luck
thedocrn said:
I think you should try NRG's Energy ROM. It's already customized with a slew of tweaks and additional software. In addition to that you can use Showaco's BBExtreme theme for TF3D2. It's gonna take SOME reading to learn about your device so you don't brick it...and if that's gonna be a problem then I'll tell ya like I told my dad.....just get an iPhone. They're already setup outta the box with very little understanding required
1) Flash HardSPL to your device. Only have to do this once.
2) Flash EnergyROM 04052009 version. Link is on 1st page of his thread. I always flash from the sd card...safer, easier, faster, more portable. Simply plug your device into computer with usb cable and select disk drive. Copy 'RAPHIMG.nbh' to the root of storage card. Make a backup of everything. Then:
Hold down the Volume Down key while u press and release the reset button. Follow directions on the screen. After the screen appears for you to tap and align the screen, Hard Reset (Hold Vol down + Center button, then press and release reset button)
3) Copy BBExtreme cab to your storage card and click it to install. Soft reset, and you're done.
I'm afraid others are just as busy as you. I have 5 week-old twins at home and I read these forums while holding a bottle in their mouths. It's highly unlikely that anyone is going to spend hours to customize your device for you, and then provide customer service for the things that don't work exactly as they should. It takes time to learn these devices, I've been at it for over 5 years and still consider myself a noob. Good luck
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Don't flash any gsm rom to a cdma device (Alltel) you will brick it. you might want to try ppcgeeks for your phone http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=68
Thanks man, forgot Alltel was CDMA.
modding your phone takes a fair amount of reading and research. i understand that you're busy but theres not much other than that we can tell you. i started out http://blownfuze.org/ there and read pretty much the whole page before i even started. And even with just that website i wasnt satisfied.
spend some time reading that website, get an idea of what on there you like, and start from there. install a ROM (i suggest EnergyROM) and go from there. it takes a lot of reading before you know what you're doing. and dont ever assume you know how to fix something, its safer to look it up here than to try it. liek if you dont know how to install a ROM, theres a beginners guide. dont just try stuff. thats how you brick your phone.
you can change the stock theme i have an altell TP and i changed the TF3D theme a couple times- do a search for touch pro themes there was a thread with a bunch of them find one you like and you can load it with a program called Diamond TF3D Config- there are a lot of good free themes but probably not one just what you described
looks like you already found some themes i think they came in a zip when i did mine, put them on your phone not in a folder just the first menu then load with the program from above, just search and you will find that program
Installing a theme won't brick your phone, but it's a good idea to back everything up prior to messing with manila. Try out fuzeberry or onyx or any of the themes listed here or in the Diamond themes forum. Since it's a work phone, flashing roms may not be such a great idea. Dear lord, if you do, DO NOT FLASH ENERGY ROM!!!!! As mentioned above, it will brick your phone. Go over to geeks and try out Mighty Rom or Jughead rom or whatever catches your fancy.
You might look up giannis86 here. He's got a ton of really cool icons, and he's done some custom jobs for folks. Maybe he'll work 4 food. Anyway, I laughed my ass off.
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i started out http://blownfuze.org/ there and read pretty much the whole page before i even started. And even with just that website i wasnt satisfied.
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sheesh ... wtf do you want from me?!
and no way you read the whole thing. I haven't even read the whole thing.
and stay off freenode, you're not ready
gobuffs said:
I hit my 4 code password and 1 out of 4 times the damn thing says I have the wrong PW – no I don’t you beyotch, I KNOW my password.
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lol thats great
gobuffs said:
hey, I’m old. It will have this much rumored, never seen by me improved Weather App and this Stock Market app so I can watch my 401K tank to 187K 24/7.[/COLOR][/B]
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HAHAHAHAHA "watch my 401k tank to 187k 24/7" that is CLASSIC
Now that's the spirit gang!
I have a whole bunch of stuff to read and get lost in -- so thank you very much.
I have scanned the responses, but don't think any answered the PhotoShop Question -- can I somehow make my own slider icons (Home, Music, Message) etc using PhotoShop and then try (I'll be back for help) to get the graphics into one of them "#4875-manila" files?
Graphic size?
Resolution?
Best file format? JPG?
Do I need an up and down state, similar to a rollover on a web-nav button? (Ohhhh, the newbie knows rollover up-state -- maybe he's more than just a RingTone guy)
Thanks again!
gobuffs said:
Now that's the spirit gang!
I have a whole bunch of stuff to read and get lost in -- so thank you very much.
I have scanned the responses, but don't think any answered the PhotoShop Question -- can I somehow make my own slider icons (Home, Music, Message) etc using PhotoShop and then try (I'll be back for help) to get the graphics into one of them "#4875-manila" files?
Graphic size?
Resolution?
Best file format? JPG?
Do I need an up and down state, similar to a rollover on a web-nav button? (Ohhhh, the newbie knows rollover up-state -- maybe he's more than just a RingTone guy)
Thanks again!
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Yeah, you can make your own icons. Like I said before, look up giannis86, and in his profile look up all the threads he started. Grab one of his icon packs, and look at the files with manila editor. You'll be able to figure out the correct sizes and resolutions.
gobuffs said:
Now that's the spirit gang!
I have a whole bunch of stuff to read and get lost in -- so thank you very much.
I have scanned the responses, but don't think any answered the PhotoShop Question -- can I somehow make my own slider icons (Home, Music, Message) etc using PhotoShop and then try (I'll be back for help) to get the graphics into one of them "#4875-manila" files?
Graphic size?
Resolution?
Best file format? JPG?
Do I need an up and down state, similar to a rollover on a web-nav button? (Ohhhh, the newbie knows rollover up-state -- maybe he's more than just a RingTone guy)
Thanks again!
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http://www.telegraphics.com.au/sw/#icoformat
This addon for photo shop will allow you to edit/save png files.
CFC GUI (you'll have to search on here for it). Will let you get the graphics files out of the manila files and also put them back in after editing.
As far as sizes, I usually just open one of the files up check the size and then open a new file and set the canvas that size. They are all different sizes depending on what icon your editing.
thedocrn said:
I have 5 week-old twins at home and I read these forums while holding a bottle in their mouths.
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Congratulations on the TWINS!!! Must be really busy ATM Boys, girls or both ? Hope both of them and mommy are doing well
hmota78 said:
Congratulations on the TWINS!!! Must be really busy ATM Boys, girls or both ? Hope both of them and mommy are doing well
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Hey thanks! We have a boy and girl...Kai Ryan and Reagan Elizabeth. Biggest thing to adjust to is the loss of sleep zzzzzz...
gobuffs: good luck man, these devices are GREAT once you have them customized to your liking
hmota78 said:
Congratulations on the TWINS!!! Must be really busy ATM Boys, girls or both ? Hope both of them and mommy are doing well
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Newbie here-- I'll add my Congrats on the Twins.
Our twins turn 6 Thursday the 16th ; best 6 years of my life; just about to "graduate" from Kindergarten. Carson is our boy, Olivia the girl -- she won the "lose the first tooth" contest today.
My2 cents on twins -- get them sleeping and eating on the same schedule -- its easy after that!
Enjoy.