Get MS keyboard back in WM 6.5 - Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

The HTC keyboards don't have a "Ctrl" key so I can't copy or paste in some programs - how can I get the default MS keyboard back?

mem2358 said:
The HTC keyboards don't have a "Ctrl" key so I can't copy or paste in some programs - how can I get the default MS keyboard back?
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Has it ever had a Ctrl key?
Cheers, Rob.

Yes it has a Ctrl-key.
I want the keyboard also back

I have searched a long time for this, tried many regedits but never succeeded. Your best option is to pay for Resco Keyboard Pro.

TouchPal keyboard also has copy and paste functions.

Hey guys, I was looking for the MS keyboard too! I cant copy/cut paste or Ctrl z anymore with the HTC qwerty.

The free Finger Keyboard 2.1 has copy and paste facilities: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501122.
Make sure you install the WVGA version.

Iphone like keyboard (HTC Topaz)?
I am looking for a keyboard that works well with fat fingers the iphone board is so much better then the one I have on my TOPAZ

To get MS keyboard, I do this:
Modify this registry first:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\IsSIPInputMethod]
"Default"="1" (by default it is "0")
Then install this program in phone memory:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414422
Then modify the registry as follows:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HtcExtFun]
"StylusOutSipName"="Keyboard"
"StylusInSipName"="Touch Input"
Finally restart.
This way, when stylus is in, it will switch to HTC's Touch Input (Full, Compact or Phone pad depending on your last selection) then when you take out the stylus it will switch to the MS Keyboard.

Why use a keyboard for copy/cut/past?
Here is what I've done...
Install the keys controler from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=555821
Change the behavior of the volume keys:
VOL DOWN :
- single click : default
- double click : Emulate CTRL+C to OS
- long click : Emulate CTRL+X to OS
VOL UP :
- single click : default
- double click : default
- long click : Emultate CTRL+V to OS
And it's working with all the applications....

And I quote:
This is for Topaz only! Do not try to install this on other devices!
Do not ask me to make a version for other device since my remappers are driver dependent and this can be very and very complicated without real device (if possible at all).
Nice one though romualdrichard, But I'd use it if I had a Topaz or a program just like that for my MDAcIV

omar302 said:
To get MS keyboard, I do this:
Modify this registry first:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\IsSIPInputMethod]
"Default"="1" (by default it is "0")
Then install this program in phone memory:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414422
Then modify the registry as follows:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HtcExtFun]
"StylusOutSipName"="Keyboard"
"StylusInSipName"="Touch Input"
Finally restart.
This way, when stylus is in, it will switch to HTC's Touch Input (Full, Compact or Phone pad depending on your last selection) then when you take out the stylus it will switch to the MS Keyboard.
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TNX! Finally something that works! Do you know how I can get the big buttons with gestures mode on? I got the small kb buttons now...

VerusAmos said:
TNX! Finally something that works! Do you know how I can get the big buttons with gestures mode on? I got the small kb buttons now...
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If you go to Menu>Settings>Personal>Input and from there select "Keyboard" from the drop down menu.
By the way, the gestures will also work on the small buttons.

omar302 said:
If you go to Menu>Settings>Personal>Input and from there select "Keyboard" from the drop down menu.
By the way, the gestures will also work on the small buttons.
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I know they also work on the small kb, but my point is that I like the layout with the other two options on. The row with numbers is gone so it leaves more space for the letter buttons.
The reason I cant turn on these options is because I'm using Benko's v5.0ROM (6.5) and that ROM has only the Touch Input kb. I think the chef took out the settings from the drop menu. Also there's no input settings in the personal settings, so I cant change the ks settings.

Can I just add MS Keyboard without installing the additional code? I want MS Keyboard whether stylus is in or out.

akran said:
Can I just add MS Keyboard without installing the additional code? I want MS Keyboard whether stylus is in or out.
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Use the same procedure, but put "Keyboard" for both registry strings.

VerusAmos said:
I know they also work on the small kb, but my point is that I like the layout with the other two options on. The row with numbers is gone so it leaves more space for the letter buttons.
The reason I cant turn on these options is because I'm using Benko's v5.0ROM (6.5) and that ROM has only the Touch Input kb. I think the chef took out the settings from the drop menu. Also there's no input settings in the personal settings, so I cant change the ks settings.
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I can't seem to get the program to install in my Topaz WM6.5 WWE asia rom. Can you like make it nto a .cab?

I found out how to put the MS KB back to the drop menu again! Here's a a reg file...

VerusAmos said:
I found out how to put the MS KB back to the drop menu again! Here's a a reg file...
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Thaks for this....
Also I was thinking to go for WVGA version of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501122
Which one will be good for easy????

Can't really give an opinion on that... I always have prefered the MS kb. Other kb's that are finger friendly are the latest HTC kb's. Or the EzInput kb's which is simular to the HTC kb's.

Related

[1/28/08] iPhone skin for PCM Keyboard - refined

After many months of tweaking this skin, I think it is about as good as it can get (for my personal use). For those of you not familiar with PCM Keyboard, it is a program being developed as a replacement on screen keyboard for PPC devices.
I am providing the skin and layout files only, please refer any program or device compatibility questions to the developers thread or website.
The latest version the application can be downloaded at this link (keep in mind the developer currently puts an expiration of 30 days on each version until it is commercially released. So plan on upgrading to the newest version each month or plan on purchasing the software when it is launched):
http://pocketcm.com/keyboard2.php
Support:
http://pocketcm.com/phorum/index.php?9
XDA thread with the latest version information:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321712
There are two types of files that have to be loaded onto your device and selected in the options/settings for this skin to work: The keyboard layout file and the keyboard skin file. Choose either the Eng 2many or Eng 2many., layout (the second having the , and . next to the space bar) AND either the 2many GreyiPhone or 2manyiClone skin. I suggest restarting the device to make sure everything has changed correctly.
This design was done to allow almost any layout work with this skin, so check out the multi language layouts and a "azerty" layout created by ialu in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330525
Here are some features of this skin:
Main screen:
-Numbers pop up if you press and hold the "123#?" key
-Basic symbols pop up from the space bar. Period with a space is the default pop up key, so if you press and hold too long and don't slide to another symbol, you will get a period and a space.
-If you press and hold a letter, you will get a caps letter (idea borrowed from my BlackBerry).
-Caps lock is still double press on the shift (up arrow) and double press to change back to lower caps.
On the symbol keyboard (one press of 123#?):
-If you press the internet explorer key you will get "http://www."
-If you press and hold the internet explorer key you can choose: https://, .net, .org, .com or www.
The Grey iPhone skin / layout also supports landscape. This was not easy and I had to compromise some eye candy to get all the buttons to look right in both orientations. It does take up a LOT of screen in landscape, but I didn't want to make the buttons smaller for portrait use.
Keep in mind all of this customization is set in the layout file and can be opened and modified in wordpad. The only trick is making sure it is saved as a .layout file. I suggest making a copy of the layout file you are changing, rename it, make your changes and then save it (not save as).
I made this skin for my personal use and am sharing because I haven't seen anything else that works as good - for me. I am not a developer or a designer, so again please try to search for questions in the thread links I have provided. Please feel free to modify, use, distribute any of the graphics or file settings - no need to ask
Newest Version has been posted in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366987
If you prefer black keys with white letters, got to this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1718149&postcount=26
If you like some color in your keyboard, try this version:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1597831&postcount=21
Layout file with ( ) that pop up from the "." key:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1724593&postcount=46
HTC Touch Style Skin, with help from Kin0Kin:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1766908&postcount=2
Here is the eye candy:
Great look!
What about support cyrrilyc? (Russian?)
Tks for sharing...
very beautifull thank you man
preciate you
This is VERY nice
Many thanks.
iPhone12 files
I download the zip file but how do I install it on my PPC 6800 ?
PHP:
Excellent! Thanks! Though I will need to slightly mod it to add the "_". No one seems to put that on their layouts. Apparently, I'm the only one who ever uses it, and I do in my passwords sometimes...
EDIT: Just noticed that a hold of the "-" will also do a "_". Cool! I'll still add a dedicated button for it. I don't need the .com since I made the press and hold of the http button default to a .com, instead of .net, and also I use the "_" much more than .com as I have most of my sites bookmarked...
But awesome skin again! Thanks for the time and effort!
jomo25 said:
Excellent! Thanks! Though I will need to slightly mod it to add the "_". No one seems to put that on their layouts. Apparently, I'm the only one who ever uses it, and I do in my passwords sometimes...
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Press and hold the "-" key and voilá...
radiototal said:
I download the zip file but how do I install it on my PPC 6800 ?
PHP:
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1. Download the program cab from the link on post one (v12 is the current).
2. Install onto the device
3. Using active sync, open the folder program files\PCMKeyboard
4. Drag all of the files in the zip (or just the iphone12 skin and eng iphone12 layout if you don't want the multi language options).
5. Go to settings, input and select PCM Keyboard as the input method
6. Click on the options button and change the keyboard layout and keyboard skin to Eng iphone12 and iPhone 12. See the screen shot. I alsot changed the feedback on letters to 30 ms from the default 100. This is how long it takes for the feedback graphic to pop up. Basically 30 is if you want it to show up quickly when you press letters (like the actual iPhone) or if you want to type faster and not have it show the pop up of the letter you pressed, leave it at 100.
7. Once the options are set, press OK and OK to exit the input screen.
8. I suggest restarting the device to make sure the layout and skin set correctly. If you do not have a SIP change program on your device, when you restart, it will default back to the standard keyboard. I recommend default IM and have attached the cab file in this post. Install it, run it and it should keep PCMKeyboard as your default, even after restarts.
just installed works great thanks!
Awesome
One word - AWESOME!!
is there a possibility to include a copy/cut/paste/undo button? would be handy.
or just a Control button to be used incombination with X/C/V/Z as in the default SIP
EDIT: very nice skin btw!!thx for sharing..
I Love it!!
This is Really good!
Just a view question,
Could you make the same thing only then change the colors
so, dark keys with light characters?
Would make it complete!
and is it costumizable?
because i have changed the order of the characters ever sinds i use pcm keyboard.
but now when i use your skin i don't get numbers but special characters when holding the 123 button.
and i don't have a . next to it so i lost the extra options when holding that.
can i change it my self in one of the files?
VOODOOS!L said:
is there a possibility to include a copy/cut/paste/undo button? would be handy.
or just a Control button to be used incombination with X/C/V/Z as in the default SIP
EDIT: very nice skin btw!!thx for sharing..
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2manyphones, I now see that keeping the 'RETURN' button pressed, gives a menu to copy/paste/cut!! so forget my request, this skin is perfect!! thx again!!
woooww
This keyboard is the best one i so far used..just so fast..red coloring is a great idea..thank you man
Ok!
I just downloaded the keyboard and installed it on my ETEN X500+
It's o so f..king great!
Great skin and it also supports Russian!
But!
Where are the commas, full stops etc????
What about a Greek layout??
Maybe I can helb about the greek layout
Thanks man.
Great work!
Absolutely Wonderful, Amazing F****G wORK Awesome My pocket Pc is now Final. Thank you
Great! Thanks a lot

Replace Virtual Keyboard with SPB Keyboard

Greets,
I have been trying to figure out how to change the regular on-screen keyboard from the Tilt to the SPB Full Screen Keyboard.
Since I do not want to change from the real keyboard (as an option), the "Input" control panel isn't the right choice.
I just want to make the SPB Keyboard come up when I hit that little keyboard icon which comes up on the bottom of the screen.
Any ideas?
This should allow you to change the default keyboard.
http://www.cinetsystems.com/xda/Kaiser Cab Collections/SIPChange.CAB
password
hey buddy, I 2 am having the same problem. I want the spb full keyboard to come up when I go to text, but when I set it in the options it still shows the small keyboard. what can I do to change this? I tried your link but it asked for "user name/password" thankx
jpasint said:
This should allow you to change the default keyboard.
http://www.cinetsystems.com/xda/Kaiser Cab Collections/SIPChange.CAB
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Try this directly. It's a keyboard that works as default properly. you don't need any external tools.

Looking for List of Keyboard Apps

Anyone know of a list of available keyboard apps? Haven't been able to find much on the forum.
Thanks and sorry for the noob question.
Here's a few I can really recommend...
1. Touchpal: http://www.cootek.com/intro.aspx
2. Resco Keyboard Pro: http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/keyboard/
3. PocketCM Keyboard: http://www.pocketcm.com/keyboard2.php
Hopefully people can add more to the list but these 3 are my favorites... Touchpal is the best imo and it's the one I use the most...
I'm really starting to like PocketCM Keyboard. It's quick and unobtrusive and has pretty good spelling correction.
What about Phone-pad T9 keyboards? Touchpal is seriously lacking when it comes to the phonepad layout; its so fiddly and buttons are way too small still. All my HTC SIPs are broken since installing the Softbank Keytouch (Japanese) SIP, and i am desparate to find another T9 solution.
Every T9 keyboard i have seen tries to fit too many buttons on the screen, and the space is always an afterthought (tiny little button next to something else). On a regular phone you ONLY need 12 keys to provide text input, maybe 13 to allow you to change input modes. The Keytouch layout is perfect, 12 biiig buttons and 4 tiny buttons down the side for options; but it doesnt have T9 predictive text
Anyone know decent options?
Finger Keyboard works wondefully, see this link, http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=163013&d=1236103349 or search here in xda.
thanks
Here are my findings (keep in mind this is just MY opinion)
- I'm using a HTC Touch Diamond
- I'm using the default orientation, NO LANDSCAPE
Rankings (best to worst):
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Touchpal
- largest learning curve
- FASTEST for typing (I'm using the 20 key layout)
- most features (smileys, arrows, macros for web, etc)
- full version costs 12$ (a little steap) but might be worth it, great product
2.) PocketCM and Finger Keyboard TIE
- both are great for FULL qwerty but can't match the speed of touchpal
- had to find skins for both to increase the button size to make it easier to type FAST with thumb(s).
Didn't try the Resco Keyboard Pro
Thanks for the links guys!
Asalam Alaikum
HELLO
I am not a devolper and mostly a free user, BUT IVE MANAGED TO get japanese input/output with iphone skin keyboard (without the gestures and loss of t9 and suggested words).
I use a wwe wm6 rom on a HTC TOUCH DIAMOND *s21ht emobile* I didnt necessairly change the regional setting, i used resco file explorer and registry editor. I DONT USE touchflo but spb mobile shell 3.5
IT ONLY WORKED FOR ME AFTER I RESTORED MY DIAMOND TO FACTORY SETTINGS. if you have any other keyboard, resco, spb keyboard, letsjapanno6, im sure it wont work as well, or wont work at all.
DOWNLOAD DOWNLOAD DOWNLOAD DOWNLOAD DOWNLOAD DOWNLOAD
JPIMEWM6
ime6SIPnamefix
And follow the instructions that is suggested as posted on the first page.
THEN THEN THEN THEN THEN THEN
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...296455&page=45 for
HappyTapping Keyboard
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296455 for
iphoneskin
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...296455&page=45 for
Default_IM_WM5 *Input Method selector-- IMselector*
>>> I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST a soft rest after using IMselector
TO SELECT SKIN, go to happy tapping input options and browse for required vga or qvga skin for portrait and landscape> I WOULD SUGGEST DOING THIS AT THE VERY END after the soft reset
**for those unaware of happy tapping keyboard, it has an ime button which enables the device to switch from jap to eng. NO Need for ctrl shift, shift ctrl or having to deal with small ms keyboard or other keyboards that dont work appropiatetly with japanese input.
** The ugly side: The loss of t9 function and suggested words, requires more space on your device
>>>> I WOULD AVISE THIS keyboard set up if japanese is a main concern in your daily life and/or you have no need to use the commodity of t9 and susggestive word functions.
I would like to thank flinx1 for the ime and sip name fix and A_C for his happytapping keyboard post.
I hope this helps.
Peace

Fuze - Fn+SPACE doesn't bring up symbols menu :\

i have a at&t fuze and on my stock rom and many other pressing Fn+Space would bring up the symbol menu.
however i am running Da_Gs latest 6.5 and Fn+Space does nothing.
any help?
hopefully a cab or regedit rather than reflashing
can anyone help? this is a problem as i use symbols heavily
try these cabs from shlomki http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=474192
no, the problem is not my keyboard layout- the problem is the symbols menu just isn't on my phone. all other Fn commands work fine
did you disable xt9 to bring back the old word suggestion?
I've been searching all over the place with no satisfying result
i didn't cook in HTC eZ input keyboards, because i don't want them.
if i do cook them in however i get the symbols- it seems the symbols are a part of the HTC keyboards :\
i've been trying forever to find a way to get the symbols without the htc keyboards, can't seem to find answers
Can anyone tell me how to do this on the Sprint stock ROM? I've been trying to find the answer to this question as well, it "says" on the keyboard in yellow that SYM is the key to the left of the space bar but NO keyboard combination I've pressed invokes the symbols menu.
anyone help.
Can anyone tell me how to do this on the Sprint stock ROM? I've been trying to find the answer to this question as well, it "says" on the keyboard in yellow that SYM is the key to the left of the space bar but NO keyboard combination I've pressed invokes the symbols menu.
anyone help.
GustavTheLion said:
i didn't cook in HTC eZ input keyboards, because i don't want them.
if i do cook them in however i get the symbols- it seems the symbols are a part of the HTC keyboards :\
i've been trying forever to find a way to get the symbols without the htc keyboards, can't seem to find answers
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I've once lost symbols keypad when I've changed registry entry
"HKLM\System\currentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\Ime File"
from "\windows\eT9ime.dll" to "\windows\compime.dll".
So you might try just to cook "eT9ime.dll" and verify that above entry
points this file, instead of cooking whole EzInput...
This worked for me : Edit the following registry key: HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\CWSLayout - change the value from 1 to 0 and softreset.
BladeStorm said:
This worked for me : Edit the following registry key: HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\CWSLayout - change the value from 1 to 0 and softreset.
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yeah if you read earlier posts, the keyboard layout is not the problem
you only need to install the xt9 portion of the htc keyboards. the symbols menu is pulled from the xt9.
Just for the records
GustavTheLion said:
i have a at&t fuze and on my stock rom and many other pressing Fn+Space would bring up the symbol menu.
however i am running Da_Gs latest 6.5 and Fn+Space does nothing.
any help?
hopefully a cab or regedit rather than reflashing
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Just for the records: had the same problem on a Fuze with RRE 5, fix it doing the opposite of what the_ozyrys did:
the_ozyrys said:
I've once lost symbols keypad when I've changed registry entry
"HKLM\System\currentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\Ime File"
from "\windows\eT9ime.dll" to "\windows\compime.dll".
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I changed compime.dll to eT9ime.dll and fix it

Custom keyboard layout

Hey, I found OK and caps lock keys on the D4 keyboard useless - I just don't see any difference between using OK, mapped as D-pad center, and Enter, and caps lock can be substituted by double press of shift. So I decided to play with the layout a bit, mainly because I was irritated by a need to touch the screen to work with clipboard or to go back.
The result is attached - a custom layout which remaps OK button from DPAD_CENTER to ESCAPE and caps lock from CAPS to CTRL_LEFT.
Esc works as the Back button and Ctrl is tested working in combinations of Ctrl+A (Select all), Ctrl+X (Cut), Ctrl+C (Copy) and Ctrl+V (Paste). Unfortunately Ctrl+Z/Y (Undo/Redo) don't seem to work... Any suggestions for other combinations to try?
I have tested it all on rooted Eclipse ICS 1.2 ROM, but it should generally work on all rooted Android 4.0.4 ROMs.
How to get it working?
1. You probably need to have your phone rooted first.
2. Optional - you might want to backup your original /system/usr/keylayout/omap4-keypad.kl if you're on different ROM (it should be all the same, but I haven't tested it)
3. Unpack the attached custom_layout.zip to the root of your phone - it will put omap4-keypad.kl into /system/usr/keylayout
4. Reboot your phone.
In case you'd like to revert the changes, I put the original keylayout from my system in original_layout.zip, or you can use your own backed up file
Hope you enjoy my mod. Also, which key would you suggest to replace by Menu? I'm thinking about SYM, but I still think the day I'll actually need it might come, unlike with caps lock and OK
For those interested in changing values for themselves I've attached scancodes of all the buttons given out by safestarap's key test - see keycodes.txt. If you're gonna change any .kl files, be sure to open it with some program supporting UNIX formatting such as PSPad - I really don't wanna see what would happen after editing it with Notepad You should probably also see Android documentation article about it first.
This sounds rather good...i wasn't going to, but this may give me a reason to root my phone. Thanks f for your work. It does seem illogical having those buttons. Btw what happens to LED when you press caps lock now.
Still running stock ics on Vodafone UK.
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This doesnt seem to work on stock rooted.
it seems the physical keyboard runs off generic.kl and the omap4.kl, but i simply used root explorer to edit the KL's and got things how i wanted them. i missed my HTC G2 alt + del/backspace = delete whole line, so i made tab the ALT_LEFT and problems solved, also mapped OK as CTRL_LEFT for copy paste ext.. just my pref.
also changed all the qwerty keys to WAKE_DROPPED to wake the screen instead of having to hit the top power button, as i leave my phone on my desk open constantly so its annoying to always have to hit the power button to wake.
So do you have to change the 2 files or just the one?
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bustr85 said:
Btw what happens to LED when you press caps lock now.
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I have Caps Lock mapped as Ctrl and it's not connected to the LED at all - seems the LED is working as normal Caps Lock signalization. However, after double-press of Shift the caps Lock is activated and the LED signalizes it fine.
wheeliest said:
This doesnt seem to work on stock rooted.
it seems the physical keyboard runs off generic.kl and the omap4.kl, but i simply used root explorer to edit the KL's and got things how i wanted them. i missed my HTC G2 alt + del/backspace = delete whole line, so i made tab the ALT_LEFT and problems solved, also mapped OK as CTRL_LEFT for copy paste ext.. just my pref.
also changed all the qwerty keys to WAKE_DROPPED to wake the screen instead of having to hit the top power button, as i leave my phone on my desk open constantly so its annoying to always have to hit the power button to wake.
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Didn't know the Alt+BkSp combination, thanks What other combinations do you use?
BTW Alt+Tab works for switching apps (I have now SYM mapped as ALT_LEFT and TAB is left untouched - I like to use it when filling forms).
In my mod it already is WAKE_DROPPED, but not by me, it's probably one of the Eclipse mods to stock
bustr85 said:
So do you have to change the 2 files or just the one?
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What do you mean? Do you refer to wheeliest's post?
Ah, good idea mapping SYM to ALT_LEFT. Then we can go in and define Alt key combos for the rest of the alpha keys, to get all the other symbols that we need (e.g., brackets, curly brackets, vertical bar, backquote...)
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I edited both .kl's to answer the above question,
I also changed the "/" to work as a "?" with out shifting first. (which i changed in the omap4 keychars)
system/usr/keychars/omap4-keypad.kcm
its about the middle of the code, you get into the symbols after the numbers.
key SLASH {
label. number: '?'
base: '?'
shift: '/'
ctrl. alt. meta: none
and thats the only useful key combos i know.
I've tried to edit the keyboard for my AOSP Unofficial CM10/JB ROM. No luck at all.
None of the changes take effect and the shift key stops functioning as it should. You have to hold the shift key down and press the additional key for it to work, the same as you do on a computer keyboard.
I've tried to edit both the generic and omap4 files. It always ends up with the same result. Not looking for a fix just notifying you guys.
Long press symbols
Hi, does anybody know where to change symbols and/or their order in long press popup window?
screenshot - imgur.com/joN15zH
CM10 or CM11
wild_a said:
Hi, does anybody know where to change symbols and/or their order in long press popup window?
screenshot - imgur.com/joN15zH
CM10 or CM11
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Unfortunately I don't know, but I never use it.
My short story:
My old phone was a Motorola Milestone 1 (Droid 1) with physical QWERTY.
I used it with Smart Keyboard Pro (SKP). It has an option called “Physical Keyboard”, by this way I reach the special characters of SKP’s actual language (long press on short character then some short press for selecting).
I changed for Droid4, upgraded for SlimKAT 4.4.2 installed SKP, but it is not worked with new 5-row keyboard. I can’t reach the keyboard’s yellow and my language-specific characters. Shift is not working with yellow keys.
Solution:
Change SYM and CAPS LOCK buttons in /system/usr/keylayout/omap4-keypad.kl:
I changed SYM button for “ALT”:
KEY 162 ALT_LEFT
and the CAPS LOCK button to “CTRL”:
KEY 222 CTRL_LEFT
Than modify /system/usr/keychars/omap4-keypad.kcm as follows:
Defined yellow characters for ALT method, and some other characters for all available buttons. The original SYM function still available by ALT+Space.
I attached a picture about the ALT-characters.
Unfortunately the new CTRL-button not works with SKP “Phisical Keyboard” option so I must switch off this option. By this way I lost the language specific fonts, so I programmed the upper rows for this fonts. The selection is working by SHIFT and D-pad, than CAPS-LOCK + C is Copy and CAPS-LOCK + V is Paste.
I attached a picture about CTRL-characters too.
I used character codes at: fileformat.info
We must be use the C/C++/Java source codes.
Thats all.
Zavo
hi.
i wanna change my hardware keyboard of droid4. its qwerty ... and i want to have qwertz.
so i edited the /system/usr/keychars/omap4-keypad.kcm and changeg key "Z" { label base shift } with "Y" . reboot and it works me happy
by thinking myself that i missed Ä Ö Ü at the hardware keyboard and dont want to wait long with long push on a to wait for the popup and choose there ä, i tryed to edit the /system/usr/keylayout/omap4-keypad.kl:
CAPS LOCK button to “ALT”:
KEY 222 ALT_LEFT
and back into the /system/usr/keychars/omap4-keypad.kcm there under A { label: "A" / base : "a" / shift: "A" / cltr,alt,meta: "ä" }
reboot and now it works nothing -.-
also the y z is back to qwerty and not qwertz ?!?!?!??! in the files is all right.
why my changes are undone ????
can some help ? ideas ?
thx and sry 4 bad english
Felix241 said:
hi.
i wanna change my hardware keyboard of droid4. its qwerty ... and i want to have qwertz.
so i edited the /system/usr/keychars/omap4-keypad.kcm and changeg key "Z" { label base shift } with "Y" . reboot and it works me happy
by thinking myself that i missed Ä Ö Ü at the hardware keyboard and dont want to wait long with long push on a to wait for the popup and choose there ä, i tryed to edit the /system/usr/keylayout/omap4-keypad.kl:
CAPS LOCK button to “ALT”:
KEY 222 ALT_LEFT
and back into the /system/usr/keychars/omap4-keypad.kcm there under A { label: "A" / base : "a" / shift: "A" / cltr,alt,meta: "ä" }
reboot and now it works nothing -.-
also the y z is back to qwerty and not qwertz ?!?!?!??! in the files is all right.
why my changes are undone ????
can some help ? ideas ?
thx and sry 4 bad english
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the fault is that in the .kcm no ÄÜÖ alowed.
when i entered A {
label: "A"
base: "a"
shift: "ä"
}
reboot
the system dont work with the .kcm anymore... what do i have to fill in under shift : "" for an ä ?
thx 4 help
Felix241 said:
the fault is that in the .kcm no ÄÜÖ alowed.
when i entered A {
label: "A"
base: "a"
shift: "ä"
}
reboot
the system dont work with the .kcm anymore... what do i have to fill in under shift : "" for an ä ?
thx 4 help
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I think that for ÄÜÖ, in the stock kcm you press ALT+u and then the key that you want to have ' ': a,u,o......
Hi everyone
I know it's an old post but it really helped me solve the non CTRL problem.
I needed it to switch between languages on the hard keyboard as I installed the CM11 ROM. It's a little bit funny that it takes a CTRL button to switch, but no one bothered to notice that there isn't such button.
Anyhow, my current problem is this - I'm missing a letter on the Hebrew keyboard. I have all the letters except one. It's annoying to type with a missing letter.
I've tried to look for a way to add this letter on the ompam4-keypad.kcm file, but it doesn't contain the hebrew characters.
I really don't know where to go for that char map that contains other characters other than english.
Can anyone help me?
drornohi said:
I know it's an old post but it really helped me solve the non CTRL problem.
I needed it to switch between languages on the hard keyboard as I installed the CM11 ROM. It's a little bit funny that it takes a CTRL button to switch, but no one bothered to notice that there isn't such button.
Anyhow, my current problem is this - I'm missing a letter on the Hebrew keyboard. I have all the letters except one. It's annoying to type with a missing letter.
I've tried to look for a way to add this letter on the ompam4-keypad.kcm file, but it doesn't contain the hebrew characters.
I really don't know where to go for that char map that contains other characters other than english.
Can anyone help me?
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Frankly I never updated it for CM11 and CM12 I've been using for over a year now, even though it always bugged me not to have Ctrl Good wake-up call I'll try to get to it through the weekend, no promises though.
@ZavoDroid's post (#10, last of previous page) looks golden, will try to make something similar working with CM11 and CM12. Will need you to report how the CM11 version works, I'm still at CM12 currently.
Edit: @drornohi - did you try custom layouts from this thread to see they did not work with CM11? And what is the specific character you miss from your Hebrew keyboard - could you post it here in lower case and upper case, ideally with Unicode codes as well?
LuH said:
Frankly I never updated it for CM11 and CM12 I've been using for over a year now, even though it always bugged me not to have Ctrl Good wake-up call I'll try to get to it through the weekend, no promises though.
@ZavoDroid's post (#10, last of previous page) looks golden, will try to make something similar working with CM11 and CM12. Will need you to report how the CM11 version works, I'm still at CM12 currently.
Edit: @drornohi - did you try custom layouts from this thread to see they did not work with CM11? And what is the specific character you miss from your Hebrew keyboard - could you post it here in lower case and upper case, ideally with Unicode codes as well?
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Sadly, it's not a layout problem.
I think that the keyboard doesn't take the characters from the .kcm file. The keyboard linked to another app that mapping the layout to a character map according to the current chosen language. i.e, when you press 'm', it links it to the app that checks which language is chosen, if english - it will type 'm', if hebrew it will type ׳צ׳ (a hebrew letter)
The problem is I don't know where is this app. I've been trying to look it up in the CyanogenMod11 source code but I'm not a developer so I didn't manage to load the project to eclipse.
Actually I have 2 missing letters.
The first one is ׳ף׳ unicode U+05E3 (source: http://unicode-table.com/en/05E3/)
The second one is 'ץ' unicode U+05E5 (source: http://unicode-table.com/en/05E5/)
If you want I have the full hebrew charmap with unicodes: http://unicode-table.com/en/blocks/hebrew/
Thanks for trying! Hope you'll save us all!
drornohi said:
Sadly, it's not a layout problem.
I think that the keyboard doesn't take the characters from the .kcm file. The keyboard linked to another app that mapping the layout to a character map according to the current chosen language. i.e, when you press 'm', it links it to the app that checks which language is chosen, if english - it will type 'm', if hebrew it will type ׳צ׳ (a hebrew letter)
The problem is I don't know where is this app. I've been trying to look it up in the CyanogenMod11 source code but I'm not a developer so I didn't manage to load the project to eclipse.
Actually I have 2 missing letters.
The first one is ׳ף׳ unicode U+05E3 (source: http://unicode-table.com/en/05E3/)
The second one is 'ץ' unicode U+05E5 (source: http://unicode-table.com/en/05E5/)
If you want I have the full hebrew charmap with unicodes: http://unicode-table.com/en/blocks/hebrew/
Thanks for trying! Hope you'll save us all!
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Hey, I'm also no dev and never opened the CM11 project - wouldn't know where to start
By inspecting the CM11 build briefly I think I found where it loads language-specific layouts: cm-11-20150327-UNOFFICIAL-maserati.zip\system\priv-app\InputDevices.apk\res\raw\*.kcm - but there is 05E5 mapped to PERIOD ( . : ), are you sure you can't type it by period? Also regular period should be mapped to SLASH ( / ? ) according to keyboard_layout_hebrew.kcm.
I tried to set 05e3 as Alt+L. Try replacing your /system/priv-app/InputDevices.apk by attached file and use it in combination with some keylayout with Alt (ZavoDroid's maybe). Do a backup before - it's my first attempt on repacking a system apk so anything can go wrong
Edit: just realized I forgot to attach the APK. -_- Sorry, will do in several hours - it's almost 6 AM now so I need to catch some sleep, left laptop elsewhere.
...so here you are with the attachment
drornohi said:
Sadly, it's not a layout problem.
I think that the keyboard doesn't take the characters from the .kcm file. The keyboard linked to another app that mapping the layout to a character map according to the current chosen language. i.e, when you press 'm', it links it to the app that checks which language is chosen, if english - it will type 'm', if hebrew it will type ׳צ׳ (a hebrew letter)
The problem is I don't know where is this app. I've been trying to look it up in the CyanogenMod11 source code but I'm not a developer so I didn't manage to load the project to eclipse.
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I think what happens here is that as long as you have Settings - Languages & input - Physical keyboard - omap4-keypad set to default layout, /system/usr/keychars/omap4-keypad.kcm is used, but once you add any languages there, it uses language's kcm from /system/priv-app/InputDevices.apk for CM11, or /system/priv-app/InputDevices/InputDevices.apk for CM12.
Please let me know if the attached apk works (try signed first) installed or put into system directly - you should be able to type ף by pressing Alt+L (SYM+L with Zavo's custom kl - also attached).
LuH said:
Hey, I'm also no dev and never opened the CM11 project - wouldn't know where to start
By inspecting the CM11 build briefly I think I found where it loads language-specific layouts: cm-11-20150327-UNOFFICIAL-maserati.zip\system\priv-app\InputDevices.apk\res\raw\*.kcm - but there is 05E5 mapped to PERIOD ( . : ), are you sure you can't type it by period? Also regular period should be mapped to SLASH ( / ? ) according to keyboard_layout_hebrew.kcm.
I tried to set 05e3 as Alt+L. Try replacing your /system/priv-app/InputDevices.apk by attached file and use it in combination with some keylayout with Alt (ZavoDroid's maybe). Do a backup before - it's my first attempt on repacking a system apk so anything can go wrong
Edit: just realized I forgot to attach the APK. -_- Sorry, will do in several hours - it's almost 6 AM now so I need to catch some sleep, left laptop elsewhere.
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Actually your'e right. I forgot I have already found ׳ץ׳ letter (It's my GF's phone so It's not near me all the time). The other one is still missing though.
Thanks for finding the apk file. I'll try edit it myself and let you know (I'm trying with notepad because I read that you can't open apk with eclipse)
I want to make the 'Q' letter assigned to ׳ף׳ because now it assigned to '/' but I already have that.
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LuH said:
...so here you are with the attachment
I think what happens here is that as long as you have Settings - Languages & input - Physical keyboard - omap4-keypad set to default layout, /system/usr/keychars/omap4-keypad.kcm is used, but once you add any languages there, it uses language's kcm from /system/priv-app/InputDevices.apk for CM11, or /system/priv-app/InputDevices/InputDevices.apk for CM12.
Please let me know if the attached apk works (try signed first) installed or put into system directly - you should be able to type ף by pressing Alt+L (SYM+L with Zavo's custom kl - also attached).
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I'll try it when I'll have the phone with me (it's my GF's)
How did you pack the apk again after unpacking it?
I want to change it to the 'Q' letter instead of Alt+L
I have some ideas to to improve the keyboard functioning with some keys.
drornohi said:
How did you pack the apk again after unpacking it?
I want to change it to the 'Q' letter instead of Alt+L
I have some ideas to to improve the keyboard functioning with some keys.
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Searched xda for instructions, in some general android development forum on xda found a rom & apk kitchen (intended for different device though, apk kitchen is universal) and used the apk kitchen for proper unpack and repack. I think it's needed, because InputDevices.apk is signed so the kcm's crc would not match if I just overwrote it in the apk directly.

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