Is it possible to have working MMS over WiFi? - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi I don't have a data plan and I got a picture message I want to view..is it possible to download it throught wifi somehow since I don't have a data plan? If so, how? Thank you so much in advance!

why don't you try and find out for yourself? xD
just get wifi?

why don't you try and find out for yourself? xD
just get wifi?

phamous said:
why don't you try and find out for yourself? xD
just get wifi?
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....I've clearly tried that, but MMS doesn't work on WiFi hence my asking...

isikh said:
....I've clearly tried that, but MMS doesn't work on WiFi hence my asking...
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I'm sure there isn't. But I'm pretty sure you don't need a data plan. My old RAZR did it just fine without a data plan. I know from experience that you can't send or receive mms over wifi

MMS is solely and OTA event. You also do not need a data plan to view an MMS. You do, however, need the proper settings in your phone before it will DL a MMS OTA.
As for sending one over WiFi, yes, it is called email and IMing.

isikh said:
Hi I don't have a data plan and I got a picture message I want to view..is it possible to download it throught wifi somehow since I don't have a data plan? If so, how? Thank you so much in advance!
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you used to be able to, but T-Mobile took care of that, and the APN is now blocked so you can't send or receive the mms messages. Kinda sucks.

settings for MMS over wifi?
pcforpres mentions settings in order to be able to read MMS over wifi, what are the settings? I'm also interested in reading MMS messages over wifi. It would be awesome if I could read/write MMS messages as well, since I do have the unlimited sms/mms with the G1. Obviuosly, I don't have the data plan yet. Thanks!

i think it would be pretty useful.... cause i dont get 3G service in my room or good service at all , and sometimes its impossible to even send an sms

mobileD7 said:
pcforpres mentions settings in order to be able to read MMS over wifi, what are the settings? I'm also interested in reading MMS messages over wifi. It would be awesome if I could read/write MMS messages as well, since I do have the unlimited sms/mms with the G1. Obviuosly, I don't have the data plan yet. Thanks!
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I did not say you could send MMS over WiFi, I said you could only send MMS OTA, which means Over The Air, aka through your carrier's network.
The reason people can't send MMS with cooked ROMs most of the time is because they do not enter their carriers settings into the phone, just like you need to enter the data settings. Sometimes, the date account settings and MMS settings are one in the same, but most of the time they are not.
As well, MMS are independent from having a data account. Every single carrier allows any customer to send and recieve MMS for a nominal fee whether they have a data plan or not. Some bundle MMS in with text while others with data, but MMS is independent of both of those services in terms of network protocol and phone settings(with a few exceptions where if you have a data plan, it is the same setting that your phone uses to do MMS and internet)

WiFi and MMS
Thanks PCJforPres. Per your previous post "MMS is solely and OTA event. You also do not need a data plan to view an MMS. You do, however, need the proper settings in your phone before it will DL a MMS OTA.
As for sending one over WiFi, yes, it is called email and IMing."
You mention you do not need a data plan to view an MMS. I'm currently able to receive the MMS, but not able to download it. Is this what you are saying as well? or can we actually read it via wifi? Are there proper settings to use with no data plan? These MMS messages I somtimes get are just text, but for some reason they come in as MMS. SMS works great. Any thoughts or solutions?

Yes, you must set up your phone with proper MMS and SMS settings for your carrier. MMS does not need dataplan.

mobileD7 said:
Thanks PCJforPres. Per your previous post "MMS is solely and OTA event. You also do not need a data plan to view an MMS. You do, however, need the proper settings in your phone before it will DL a MMS OTA.
As for sending one over WiFi, yes, it is called email and IMing."
You mention you do not need a data plan to view an MMS. I'm currently able to receive the MMS, but not able to download it. Is this what you are saying as well? or can we actually read it via wifi? Are there proper settings to use with no data plan? These MMS messages I somtimes get are just text, but for some reason they come in as MMS. SMS works great. Any thoughts or solutions?
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What is likely happening is that you do not have the proper MMS settings, either the ROM doesn't have the MMS application, or you have yet to set the settings up. So instead of getting the MMS, you get just the text with a blank "image" box or whatever because it cannot connect to the server to download the data portion. There is no way to us WiFi to do this, because the internet has no way of accessing your carriers network and obtaining that info. It is stuck in your carriers routing system, and after X amount of time will be deleted if you do not download it.
Call your carriers CS line and ask them what the proper settings are for MMS, even if they say they don't support the G1, insist that they tell you the manual settings for a smart phone... you should get APN info, Proxy and Port info, default website info(this is the site it downloads from technically), network type (ie is it WAP, Secure WAP, HTTP, Secure HTTP)... there might be more or less info needed, but those are the basics.
You can usually search the interwebs for this info as well.

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What is likely happening is that you do not have the proper MMS settings, either the ROM doesn't have the MMS application, or you have yet to set the settings up. So instead of getting the MMS, you get just the text with a blank "image" box or whatever because it cannot connect to the server to download the data portion. There is no way to us WiFi to do this, because the internet has no way of accessing your carriers network and obtaining that info. It is stuck in your carriers routing system, and after X amount of time will be deleted if you do not download it.
Call your carriers CS line and ask them what the proper settings are for MMS, even if they say they don't support the G1, insist that they tell you the manual settings for a smart phone... you should get APN info, Proxy and Port info, default website info(this is the site it downloads from technically), network type (ie is it WAP, Secure WAP, HTTP, Secure HTTP)... there might be more or less info needed, but those are the basics.
You can usually search the interwebs for this info as well.
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And these APN settings are far and few to find but good luck if you find them, I have tried everything, every different type of APN for T-Mobile US and had absolutely no luck.
These are not facts but my own conclusion about this: What I'm afraid is that Android pushes all MMS activity through the data connection anyhow. Because after using another T-Mobile SIM, with the data connection, I was instantly able to download all my MMS pictures. So I don't think there is any correct APN setting for MMS to work without the data plan sadly. That's why I started a thread awhile ago to hopefully build support.. but I guess most people out there have the data plan or no data plan + no messaging or simply just don't care about MMS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559805
I'm just hoping that somebody will try to fix this problem eventually, but like I've discovered there just isn't much demand for it. Personally, I want to get into Android dev but I can't say how long it'll take me to learn the ropes plus if I'll even be able to do anything about it myself.

MMS over wifi
Yeah, it is crazy that MMS is not available over wifi that we know of. I was going to call tmobile for the APN, but from reading it sounds like MMS by default goes over there new data APN? no clue. What a crappy way to make money for tmobile that they have to force customers to have the data plan. At least SMS works and other functions over wifi (which is really all I need). I don't have time for non-stop data access for my phone. Yeah, hopefully there will be an alternate fix to access MMS over wifi or another APN. Any ideas or does any one have a working APN they can provide?
I guess I'll try tmobile again for a valid APN.

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Can anyone answer this???

I have an AT&T Tilt unlocked and am using it for T-Mobile. The phone works great with the exception of a few things. What do I need to do in order for my Internet and MMS messages to work?
Also does anyone know of any shortcut for text messaging? It seems that you have to go through so many steps to start a text.
Thanks!
settings are different with other carriers
I am not exactly sure what settings would have to be changed to make the internet work but I know I have read it a few times for different ROMS, I just didn't need the advice since mine works. Search the forums and find out what TMobile runs off of. As far as how quick it takes to get to texts, you can change a key to them and there are a ton of programs that offer shortcuts.
for MMS the setttings need to be:
Server name: T-Mobile MMS
Gateway: 216.155.165.50
Port Number: 8080
server address: http://216.155.174.84/servlets/mms
connect via: T-mobile MMS
Wap version: WAP 2.0
for the internet go to connection settings and for the connection name enter
T-mobile Data
access point name: wap.voicestream.com
user name and password leave blank
thanks for the quick response. Where exactly do I go to enter this information?
thanks again
Mms/gprs/internet/wap Settings
If you need any settings for your device go here most helpfull
http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html
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If you need any settings for your device go here most helpfull
http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html
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Thank you for the link
it also depends on which internet plan u have? if its the 5.99 tzones plan, its a little more difficult to set up, let me know if u have that one and i'll tell u how.. if ur using the 19.99 plan, simply go to settings-->connections-->connection setup, and set it up for tmobile USA. it'll also set up ur mms at the same time. good luck
omar
oh wait... ur using the tilt rom... thats probably NOT gonna be there... i'd advise u to flash to a different rom.. sorry
Hi,
to speed up your textmessaging you can copy the files tnsms(for SMS) or tnmms (for MMS) for the windowsdirectory in your startupfolder.
These files open a new SMS or MMS an you wont have to do many steps.
Then you have possibility to choose these applications in your buttonapplication, where you can assign applications to buttons.
yes i have th 5.99 plan can you still help?
sms settings on tilt
Sorry mms settings......
Does anyone know where these are ?
my buddy is on tmobile and it took me a good day to figure out the correct settings... I honestly don't understand why tmobiles mms settings are so hard to setup while atts is really easy
hey, just as a warning, i was never able to get the 5.99 settings to work on the original tilt rom, and another user on this forum also never got it to work. the 19.99 internet works fine on the tilt rom. dunno its weird. however when i flashed over to a different rom, it worked no problems.
1- go to connections, and add new connection cellular line, gprs 3G, call it whatever you want
2- access point name: wap.voicestream.com, leave the next one blank and then finish.
3- now click on manage existing connections, click on proxy settings on the bottom right tab
4. make sure both boxes are checked, and enter 216.155.165.50 as the proxy server.
5- click on advanced, and double click on http: and change the port to 8080. leave everything else the same. ok out to the original connections settings screen.
6- click on the advanced tab on the bottom. click on select networks and set both of them to my work network
thats it.. IE should work now no problems, and set any pop3 email accounts to connect to my work network. good luck
omar
i have no idea how to flash to a new rom. Is this something that you think i can do easily and without ruining my phone?
I am running into the same issue too, no MMS, but Internet works good on the 5.99, so i am really wanting the MMS to work.. I hope i dont have to have the $19.99 to have it to work.. that would suck! HELP!!!

problems with my unlocked tilt

i unlocked my tilt and i use it with tmobile service
i cant send pictures mms
i cant use instant messager
also my emails stopped coming
help
You can probably expect the amount of help in responses to be in direct proportion to the amount of diagnostic information you provide.
What connection type do you have?
What data plan are you using?
What have you tested?
What connection settings are you using?
Help others to help you.
Ok. For the Instant Messages just download Palringo, its free and does every client. Picture messages, you are going to have to get your Tmobile settings for MMS as well as browser settings. Go to google.com and type in T Mobile Connection settings I'm sure you'll find something, Same thing for mms, Type in Tmobile MMS settings.
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Ok. For the Instant Messages just download Palringo, its free and does every client. Picture messages, you are going to have to get your Tmobile settings for MMS as well as browser settings. Go to google.com and type in T Mobile Connection settings I'm sure you'll find something, Same thing for mms, Type in Tmobile MMS settings.
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i dnt like Palringoand i already tried ALL of that
im still seeking help ppl
You have not answered Liquidsilver's message - Without that information it is difficult to help.
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liquidsilver said:
You can probably expect the amount of help in responses to be in direct proportion to the amount of diagnostic information you provide.
What connection type do you have?
What data plan are you using?
What have you tested?
What connection settings are you using?
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ok i did some tampering and now i can send pictures thru mms
but now
i cant send emails still not recieving b4 i was able to send but not recieve
also i still cant sign on to any instant messager
liquidsilver said:
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What connection type do you have?
What data plan are you using?
What have you tested?
What connection settings are you using?
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i have regular t-mobile wireless internet my favs plan
i tried googling my problem going to t-mobile settings
my connection settings are set to auto pick
Thread Closed!
Geez,
Do you know what Rom you're running? As you have a Tilt if you are running an at&t Rom or some of the cooked Tilt Roms (like XDA Live) then there is the whole Hidden Cingular Proxy issue (google it).
Anyway, this really doesn't warrant another thread discussing getting tilt/kaiser to work on t-mobile. Please ask your questions in one of the existing threads discussing t-mobile issues.

T-mobile MMS Help (w/ $10 internet settings)

Guys,
I have performed a search and tried various settings but have been unable to find a combination that works.
I cannot get the MMS on my unlocked, purchased directly from Google, T-mobile Nexus One to send.
Additionally, I am using the APN of internet2.voicestream.com so that I can use the $10 Web2Go internet instead of the epc.tmobile.com.
I have tried using both the stock messaging system as well as Handcent.
I am currently on Froyo but I also had the same problems with Eclair.
What are the tried and true settings for my particular configuration? Is anyone out there doing the same exact thing as me and have you been successful with sending MMS's?
you need two apns
FROYO by default will add epc one... don't delete it. however, go to APN settings and change the APN type to mms
create another APN for internet2 and set its type to default
arkavat,
Thanks a bunch! I tried this before but I did not properly set the internet2.voicestream.com APN type to "default". That did the trick.
Which APN should I apply the "supl" type to? internet2 or epc?
Can either of you post a line by line of the mms settings? This may come in handy to enable mms on my old g1 that my gf is using without a data plan.
I had the same issue, the mms settings helped but something else helped.
Send two sms and two mms to your phone (from yourself) and that fixed it for me.
OH MAN! I just spent 2 hours checking every line and trying every combination. Follow the above instructions about the mms and default APN settings exactly..... REBOOT your phone, then it will work. I didn't reboot and it drove me nuts.
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Can either of you post a line by line of the mms settings? This may come in handy to enable mms on my old g1 that my gf is using without a data plan.
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+1 on this, exact same situation
internet2.voicestream.com APN for default, supl
epc.tmobile.com APN for MMS
bachviet said:
internet2.voicestream.com APN for default, supl
epc.tmobile.com APN for MMS
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Edit: Nevermind..dumb question. I need to try to get my gf to sign up for the $10 internet plan if it's still available.
for MMS I used just the factory settings.. epc.tmobile.com, etc etc..
However.. I changed the name of it from T-mobile US to T-mobile US-MMS
then down at the bottom where it says APN type.. you type in "mms".. all in lower case letters..
Now simply make a new APN... with the settings
Name T-mobile US
APN internet2.voicestream.com
APN Type "default" (all lower case again)
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there you go
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For the new internet2 apn, we need to know if there's anything that needs to be entered for the other lines.. like proxy, port, mms proxy, mms port, etc..username..password.. that's what we're asking for.
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Everything else is blank.
Thanks guys... one last question. Do you guys get internet access with the internet2.voicestream.com apn?
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Thanks guys... one last question. Do you guys get internet access with the internet2.voicestream.com apn?
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Thanks... I need to get my gf to sign up for the $10 web plan if it's still available. She's getting nothing... no internet, and no MMS, which is what she really wants to work.
Has anyone had any problem using a lot of data while on this plan? Will they notice?
I noticed that in the Manage Account Usage page under Recent Usage, with only 244.6/Unlimited minutes, the little bar below it is about 1/4 of the way filled. Is that normal or does that mean that we have a 1 GB softcap now?
The price makes it worth my while to go easy on the data, but I'd still rather watch an episode on hulu every day, if possible.
arg nm it just started working lol.
Anyone here has the Even More Unlimited Web Plan ($10) working here?
I am wondering if it is the same as web2go
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Anyone here has the Even More Unlimited Web Plan ($10) working here?
I am wondering if it is the same as web2go
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I am on an Even More Plus plan and it works.
Confirmed Even More Plan Unlimited Web Plan works great.
I think it's faster than Tzone.

[Q] Droid + Cricket MMS issues

Yes, I know this question has been asked 150,000 times. Yes, I've read the threads. Dozens of times.
I have a Droid 1 on Cricket's $45 plan, and it's working perfectly. Calls, text, data, everything works 100% of the time, except MMS.
I've tried different roms (stock, bugless beast 0.2 and onwards, gpa15, gpa16, gpa17, simplystunning 5.2-.4, liquid gingerbread 2.0-.6, cyanogenmod 6-7, droid concepts, all of them), I've tried greenk45, I've tried xsylus's recommended apn settings + scriptrunner, I've tried the regular cricket APN settings (wap.mycricket.com:8080, 310:004, 310:016, server being * or wap.mycricket.com or mms.mycricket.com etc.) I've tried EVERYTHING.
And no matter what, when I try sending an MMS it just keeps 'sending' forever, and when I send an MMS from another phone or text4free.net, I get a text from 8662742538 saying "Multimedia messages are being sent to your device, but your device doesn't support these messages. Visit your nearest Cricket store for new device options"
I will do ANYTHING. ANYTHING you tell me to do. I will flash any rom, I will type any APN settings, run any script, I don't care what it takes. I just want to receive a single MMS on this otherwise perfectly-working phone.
I've been a C/assembly programmer for 13 years, I'm no stranger to any technical jargon you can throw at me, I just desperately need to know why this unimaginably simple task is impossible to achieve.
Log into your mycricket.com account and check your plan. This just happen to my wife's phone. I changed phones and did a ESN change. It removed "Picure Messaging/text messaging" and replaced it with "text messaging". Therefore you'll get that message when someone sends you an MMS because your phone does not have that feature enabled.
Call cricket and have them provision your phone again. I had to tell them i had a Samsung (cricket phone) and explained that it was flashed to Sprint and back to cricket.
not sure if this applies to cricket but on verizon, i couldn't ever send a mms without setting my data to enabled, if i didn't enable data it would take 399 years
Believe me, it's the account settings. When I did a ESN change a few days ago the system automatically removed Picture/Video. I had to call back and tell them i had a Samsung R560 and refresh my account. Then it showed back up and I no longer get that message when pictures are sent to the phone.
Very interesting! I logged in and only had text messaging, no picture messaging listed. I called 1-800-CRICKET and a lady said everything was now fixed, but still no MMS. Now there's not only no picture messaging listed, but no regular texting either. Seems strange.
Perhaps worst of all, when sending test MMS's from web sites, I'm no longer receiving the dreaded 'your device doesn't support these messages' text from 8662742538 that I used to, now there's no notification of anything whatsoever!
I've posted a screenshot of my current plan settings at the end of this post, can anyone comment? I'll go to the local Cricket shop tomorrow, but I doubt they'll know what's going on - it's a very small shop that doesn't do flashes or anything.
Pic link (can't post links/attachments yet):
i40.tinypic.com/307yefd.png
OK the Cricket store said everything was 100% fine, there was nothing wrong with my plan, and that picture messaging was included. Though if you look in the screenshot, there's still nothing mentioning picture messaging.
Could someone post an (anonymous of course) screenshot of their plan from mycricket.com? Preferably someone on the $45 plan. I just don't understand why it's so difficult to receive MMS messages - if I had a debugger and access to the phone's radio I could figure this out in 5 minutes, the current system seems like nothing but voodoo.
Well nothing changed regarding my last post, and I didn't change any settings on my phone, but now SMS is sending and receiving. No idea why.
APN settings I've had for the past month: Name: Cricket, APN: internet, no proxy, no port, user: (MDN)@mycricket.com, pass: cricket, server: wap.mycricket.com, mmsc: hxxp://mms.mycricket.com/servlets/mms (hxxp changed to allow posting here), no proxy, no port, mcc: 310, mnc: 016, apn type: default,mms. this is all using the dns-based autostart.sh being executed by ScriptRunner.
Also if anyone has trouble with the APN list appearing empty or edited entries disappearing, it's because your build.prop file is listing a different MCC/MNC pair than the APN you've entered - your build.prop probably lists ro.cdma.home.operator.numeric as 310004 or something, so unless the APN matches that (try changing MNC to 016 and watch it disappear), Android decides not to display it.

Can't get MMS to work on Focus S

I have a Focus S that was from AT&T but was unlocked for other carriers. I was on Telus Mobility before and MMS worked without any setting changes. I just changed carriers, I am now on Koodo Mobile and I can't get MMS to work.
I am unable to fully unlock my phone because it is updated and I don't have a backup so I can't do any on the usual fixes to enable ADC. I do have it unlocked through the App Hub though (student account) so I can sideload some apps so maybe there is a solution there, I did load "samsung tools" but it doesn't work since the phone isn't fully unlocked.
I have tried the Samsung Wireless Manager app it got my 4G data working, but when I enter the MMS APN as soon as I save it, it changes from "MMS" profile to "other" and the MMSC that I entered disappears.
Please help!! I really miss having MMS to exchange photos with my family.
Thanks!
The latest Samsung update (LE2) blocked XML editing (to prevent WindowBreak and similar) which also blocked the ability for the Wireless Manager to change the network configurations which are stored in XML files.
Follow this guys directions (specifically the ones at the bottom) and you'll be able to get everything working except sending MMS, you'll be able to receive but not send. The MMS profile has to be named mms_line otherwise it will save as other. And for me at least, I was able to change all settings and save them except for the MMSC (server which handles the sending of MMS), so long as you configure everything correctly you'll be able to at least receive MMS, and as per someone else's suggestion you could sign up for text plus or something and advise the sender that you use a different number/service to send MMS.
Thanks Samsung -_-

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