One touch and then touchscreen dies - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hello folks,
I've had a kaiser now for a couple of years, but recently its developed an interesting problem/quirk.
When I first boot it up, I'll get one touch on the touchscreen, and then no more. Doesn't matter if i turn the screen off and leave it for a day, or anything, I'll get no more until I reboot.
One time recently, however, it worked for multiple touches over 30 seconds or so. When I picked it back up again later, it went back to its usual self.
I've ruled out any software issues by flashing to a much newer rom with a new radio. The behaviour is still the same.
My first thought is that there might be something pressing on one of the edges of the screen, so that I can "click", but not release. I tried cleaning out under the bevel with a pin, and although i pulled out half the contents of my pockets, the issue remains unresolved. I'm ordering some small torx screwdrivers to get the bevel off, to give it a more thorough cleaning.
Does anyone have any other ideas I could look into? I'm hoping its not a dead screen, although its very unusual behaviour if it is.
Lastly, I came across an app a long time ago that was being used to show the ability of multitouch on touchscreens. It would show the pressure/point of contact on screen. If I could get something like this, or indeed any information on the screen pressure, I would know for certain whether my theory about being able to press but not release is accurate. I've searched, but I havent managed to turn up anything. Does anyone have this cab/something like it?
Thanks for any help guys.

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Tilt no longer enjoys being touched.

So, i'm usually quiet on these forums. Just reading, trying roms, etc. But here is something that has me stumped. Last thursday my phone crapped out. When i woke up and looked at it (it was connected to my laptop/charging) Applications were opening left and right, i couldn't close any of them because stuff kept opening. I tried to soft reboot it and it didn't help. Once it rebooted stuff started opening itself at random again. I ended up pulling the SIM and battery out and leaving it for 5 minutes. When i put it back and powered it up the touch screen no longer worked, but apps weren't opening on their own.
What gives?
I have hard reset (which means it's waiting for me to touch the screen to setup my rom), i have also taken off the screen protector (in case it had something stuck under it. Neither of these things helped. Per the forums I got a new screen, just put it in, and the touch screen doesn't work still... I'm drawing a blank here can anyone give me some advice. Going back to my Prophet for the time being but I HATE not having a keyboard (and it's slower than molasses)
have you tried flashing a new rom via sd?
Check that the screen protector has not moved under the front bezel and keeps pressing your touchscreen.
Robert
I have totally removed the screen protector and even replaced the screen for that matter so I dont think that's it. I haven't tried flashing a new rom. I just found it odd that this has worked for so long and now I get what appears to be hardware problems. As for flashing Via SD memory, is that better than doing it via cable for some reason? I'd be willing to give it a go...
Any other suggestions?
fiddelm3742 said:
I have totally removed the screen protector and even replaced the screen for that matter so I dont think that's it. I haven't tried flashing a new rom. I just found it odd that this has worked for so long and now I get what appears to be hardware problems. As for flashing Via SD memory, is that better than doing it via cable for some reason? I'd be willing to give it a go...
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Similar problem happened to my Kaiser phone, although no multiple files opened, the phone just won't react to any touching, not stylus pen either. So I first soft reset, then hard reset, none of them works, now the phone can Sync alright, but the screen just stands on the Window Mobile screen, saying "Tap the screen to set up your window mobile device"
I only have this new phone for <3 weeks.
I went to HTC site, want to download a latest ROM file from them, after typing in the S/N, it won't let me, saying that ROM is not suitable for my phone.
So now I am download ROM file from this site, will choose one to flash the phone, see whether it works.
I will call HTC tech support tomorrow after Thanksgiving, see what they suggest
Hope some gurus here can also make some suggestion, Thanks!
Well I replaced the LCD and the new LCD works great, but the screen still doesn't respond to touches. What gives?! I hard reset and I got past the windows screen alignment thing by creating a welcome.not file but it's still pretty much worthless w/o a touch screen. Anyone have any suggestions?
Whoa, i thought something odd was going on. Never mind i got entirely the wrong idea.
Ha, not the case.
Anyone know if a flex cable would fix my issue? I dont really know what the felx cable is for but i've seen posts about people replacing them w/ LCD problems. I don't know if it is touch screen related or not, and i'm kind of tired of buying parts that don't fix my problem
please just flash a new rom whch ever you want (for some reason i thought you said that it keeps restarting your device because if that was the case the only option you would have was to flash via sd as activesync would load long enough for you to get a connection to flash from the computer)..trust me just try it..what have you got to lose
I reflashed one yesterday actually. The newest HyperDragon (which is looks like a new one is available today) It wasn't rebooting but initially windows were popping open left and right so i restarted it a couple of times(which i first had the problem, not yesterday) Yesterday it worked like any normal rom w/o the ability to touch. Anywho, after the flash of a different rom. No luck. I'm thinking it's a hardware problem of some sort but as i've already replaced the LCD i have no idea what?
yah thats sounds funky..you can bring it in for a warranty exchange either at a local DSC or over the phone (that is if your with att) and if not call HTC..all devcies come with a 16 or 18 month warranty
Well I called ATT yesterday, apparently I purchased the phone On Oct 17th 2007 which means It's out of warranty (apparently it has a 12 month warranty?) So it sounds like I'm SOL. So, i guess I'm off to ebay to try and fine a phone that I can canibalize to try and get mine going again.
touch screen
this may sound dum but when you replaced the screen did you replace the touch part as this is different from the screen
Well I picked up this
http://www.blackberry8100parts.com/...B3-NEW-HTC-TyTN-II-KAISER-P4550-_p_35-70.html
which includes the digitizer (from what I know it's all one part when they send it to you) The screen has the digitizer built in. So i replaced the part they sent me.
I just stated having this issue. My touchscreen stopped responding to touches over the weekend while the keyboard was extended. I just took the phone apart to make sure everything was connected right & put it back together, & now the touchscreen doesn't work at all. This sucks!
Any news? i'm having the same problem: no response at all, stuck at "Tap the screen to set up Windows Mobile-based device"
An interesting problem with screen
well my tilt fell out of the car holster while using gps and i suspect the screen hit my gear shift. I didn't notice anything odd after i put the battery back in it (yeah it fell that hard lol). Later that night I went to check mail and noticed something not right. Turns out my screen seems to have been pushed in a bit. Well here's the issues I've noticed so far: All the touch responses seem fine except for 1) the screen alignment doesn't register taps, but otherwise the touchscreen works and 2) on the htc home screen, I can't tap the house icon unless I tap any other icon first.
Initially I thought there was some pressure or deformation right at that particular spot, but it reacts the exact same way in landscape mode. I can't tap the house icon first; I have to tap something else first, then the icon works fine until I open a program or something and go back to the home screen. Then I simply have to tap weather or something and then home.
I'd reflash the rom or do a hard reset, but the screen alignment didn't work when I tried it so I didn't want to get stuck at the "tap your screen to begin" part.
Any ideas or do I just need to buy another screen or maybe just the digitizer. the amount the screen seems recessed is maybe a millimeter at most. Just enough so that I noticed a difference when touching contacts just above the housing. I tried cleaning by using a business card and running between screen and housing. Ohh... and one more thing... when I open the cube and then close it, I get what I refer to a static frazzle for split second and it goes back to normal. That only happened a couple of times after the business card thing. Do you think I just loosened a connection? damn... I still haven't taken it apart yet. Think I need to. Any help appreciated.
If your screen does not work, you can still use your phone. There is an app that you use on your computer that acts as the touch screen. This also works when the screen craps out.
http://www.sparus-software.com/spip.php?page=download&lang=en&ref=at&t=tilt
(EveryWAN Remote Support Personal Edition - Free download)
yeah -- my touchscreen didn't crap out totally, it just got muffed up when I dropped it a bit. Well, i went ahead and installed codefreaks remote screen alignment thing and did a hard reset. Well, the hardreset did the trick w/out the need for anything else. The alignment worked and everything. So, i'm back in business. Everything seems to work properly, except that my screen is still recessed a tad; but, that's not a big deal really.

Touch function bugged?

I got this weird problem... On two Xperias! My first was like this from the beginning, the other started two days ago.
I can't get the screen aligned. i got coordinates from a friends perfectly aligned screen, and it is off, not in the edges, but in the middle. I don't understand what might be wrong. I have aligned my screen 30 times, and flashed the phone two, with two different ROMs, one original UK Xperia, one Blackstone by itje.
If other people got this problem, please make a post here.
Also, if you got "perfect align screen", if you can post your coordinates from the registry here, so I can test them, it would be great!
bump. please, need to find out if other people got this problem
Lol
Looks like nobody does. Do a hard reset on your phone from the Start Menu/Settings and perform the manual align by tapping the screen.
You can't just take settings from another phone and expect them to align because it doesn't work like that, otherwise the alignment wouldnt even be necessary.
Manual align this way and let us know how it goes.
Well, it did work at first. But the day after the middle part of the screen was completely off. But I have tried hard reset, soft reset, installed different ROMs, nothing works.
Sounds weird. Of the digitizer is broken it wouldn't work anywhere correctly. Check your installed programs. Maybe something is messing with your touch-alignment.
Have same issue
do you align using ur finger or ur stylus ??....better the stylus
"i got coordinates from a friends perfectly aligned"
Now that sentence made me think about what you are doing..
just align and follow the instructions? ...
Sorry but... JERK!
I tried to align, but it just looped, as I SAID BEFORE! Please read all posts before saying ANYTHING, because if not, it WON'T help me, or others that might have the same problem.
The coordinates from my friend, which I got from his registry, on the same phone, with same language, probably the same party, worked one day, the next it didn't. I allways align with my stylus, tried with finger, didn't help. got no programs installed, have tried itje's rom, and a vanilla Xperia UK rom, same problem.
In fact, same problem on TWO Xperias, gotten from the same store, same color, but the last from a later party, which my friend got one of too.
This can't be a coincidence... I will deliver my phone to the store, but I need confirmation about the loop from other people here too, because this time, I will get my money back. I can't go half a year without a phone because SE screwed up their deal with HTC, which choose to take cheap crap-plastics and apparently screens instead of the real deal in phones priced 650$++ here in Norway. It just doesn't hold up!
alignment routine looping
i've had the alignment program problem looping issue before and eventually realised that it was because I wasn't tapping the screen hard enough with my stylus. I'm not saying smash the hell out of it but applying a little extra pressure did the trick for me.
As far as loosing the settings and hacking it using a mate's calibration I'm with the others - probably an app you've got installed that's wiping it and using somebody else's cal is pointless!
I tried tapping so hard you get the lcd-effect, the rainbow-effect on the screen. Too hard. And, only prog i got installed is regedit. Only aftermarket I got, so thats no go. Guess the touch-thingy (digitizer?) is screwed then. Well, I want my money back
It will be just a few days till may warranty will be over (1 year warranty) and my silver just got almost dead digitizer today. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't since I installed touch response before so it'll vibrate when I touch it. I hard reset my phone since I think it maybe due to a software problem, but now I'm stuck on the align screen. I guess of all the Xperia users on the whole wide world I consider myself to be the "unluckiest".

Frozen G1...Kinda

Hey all, long time reader first time poster regarding troubleshooting. I searched the site and couldn't locate anything regarding this, so I apologize if I fail at research. I have a T-Mobile G1, and the phone very oddly is running perfectly when the keyboard has been exposed but once closed the phone freezes. No touchscreen movement, trackball, camera button, ect; only the power button idles the screen to black. Now at first I got worried but I flipped the keyboard out and it functions perfectly again. I rebooted phone and it is the same case, the G1 start up and rom loading screen will remain frozen unless I slide open keyboard.
Is this a motherboard error? Seeing the touchscreen functions when open I eliminated that, but has this happened to anyone else? Thanks, and sorry for wall of text.
iRidill said:
Hey all, long time reader first time poster regarding troubleshooting. I searched the site and couldn't locate anything regarding this, so I apologize if I fail at research. I have a T-Mobile G1, and the phone very oddly is running perfectly when the keyboard has been exposed but once closed the phone freezes. No touchscreen movement, trackball, camera button, ect; only the power button idles the screen to black. Now at first I got worried but I flipped the keyboard out and it functions perfectly again. I rebooted phone and it is the same case, the G1 start up and rom loading screen will remain frozen unless I slide open keyboard.
Is this a motherboard error? Seeing the touchscreen functions when open I eliminated that, but has this happened to anyone else? Thanks, and sorry for wall of text.
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Boot into recovery and see if the trackball works in there. If it does, then its simply a firmware issue and a full wipe should fix it. If it's not, then you probably dropped the phone or something and there is probably some sort of cable disconected/brocken inside the phone.
I completed a full wipe and am experiencing the same problems. I take very good care with my phone and was dropped once months back by someone bumping into me. Would it be possible for myself to self serve the phone and make sure all wires are secure? Or is it possibly anything else?
I have the same issue I've taken the phone apart along with many other G1s and have never seen this problem. I used this phone for almost 6 months lent it to a friend for a week and now it does this. So my guess is it's the flex cable between the screen and keyboard or would it have to do with the motherboard do you think?
I'm taking it apart as we speak I'll post what I find.
Did you have any luck, PlatinumMOTO?

[Q] Touch screen dead spots

This may be a problem beyond the scope of android, but seeing as I'm running it, I thought I'd try here first.
I've noticed that the lower left hand side of my screen has a "dead spot" where touch is simply not registered. To illustrate, I went to screen calibration's test screen and drew a straight line along the edge of the screen. (See Attachment)
I've tried recalibrating the screen (manually and resetting to default calibration) as well as wiping data and reinstalling the system. Reinstalling the system worked once, but then the problem came back and subsequent reinstalls did not fix the issue.
I'm running Incubus26jc super froyo [RLS 12] on the 15-07-10 340X480 Froyo Kernel.
Anyone else seen anything like this? As far as I can tell, the problem is not getting any worse. Currently, it's only a hindrance when trying to use keys in that region, but I can work around it by switching to and from landscape. It's a bit of a hassle, so I'm hoping someone may be able to shed some light on the situation.
I was sure it was hardware until the system reinstall fixed it, but am now baffled as I can no longer replicate the fix.
I have not tried reinstalling the kernel but will at some point in the next day or so. I'd like to avoid switching back to WM to check if the problem persists, but may have to... we'll see. Doing everything I can to make this phone last until the Incredible month of February when I'm up for an upgrade.
dont know the issue resolution... but i have the same with my touch vogue.. and in the same 'area' apparently as well.
hard for me to hit the 'a' key on my keyboard. hehe
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one... anyone else?
Bottom right corner for me... I was able to calibrate around it but it took a few tries.
Sent from my Full Android on Vogue using XDA App
The sensitivity across my screen was inconsistent some time ago. I found that years of my abuse had taken a tole on the exterior of my phone. It eventually got worse and I bought a new housing (with a new digitizer) on ebay for a reasonable price. If it is hardware then it really isn't that hard to fix if you like taking things apart.
If you're sure that win mo accepts input from that part of the screen then nevermind my post. I would play with a painting app though and investigate the hardware further.
I may be talking a little out my a$$ with this part but.. is it possible that in calibrating your screen the os may change it's settings on how hard you have to press and such also. that may be how you got it working.
In any case, my investment in a hew housing was well worth it considering how modern my old phone has become thanks to the developers here.
gooph said:
I may be talking a little out my a$$ with this part but.. is it possible that in calibrating your screen the os may change it's settings on how hard you have to press and such also. that may be how you got it working.
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In my case, no - when drawing a straight line down or across the screen, the line starts 'moving' away from the stylus (like the picture in the OP).
Gah... now it's shutting itself off randomly and the dead spot has grown. Not good at all.
Yeah, mine was better for a while then 'slid' again. I ended up swapping the digitizer with my other Vogue and things are back to normal.
Sent from my Full Android on Vogue using XDA App
I have another vogue, but am weary of doing anything like that. How hard was it to get done?
All you need to do is switch the front half of the housing rather than the digitizer itself- it's not hard. There's a teardown guide somewhere in the forum, Google Vogue teardown and it should be at the top.
Sent from my Full Android on Vogue using XDA App
The only thing that worries me is that my spare vogue exists because it was dropped in a muddy puddle. I'm hoping the water damage isn't too bad. Guess we'll just have to see.
it is really annoying
I have the exact same problem and I too thought it was a hardware issue till I saw this Thread. I was ignoring it till two days ago when it started really bugging me. Now, I don't even need to press any button and it automatically gets pressed around the curve and I have a google search box there, so it keeps on searching for eee or sss randomly and started draining my battery. Is there a proper fix for this?
I thought I'd chime in too... I could never seem to calibrate the touchscreen properly in either Android or Debian. Changing the screen resolution (i.e. msmfb scaling) seems to have no effect, whether it's 240x320 or 640x480. Any area within 5mm or so of the edges of the LCD will register as the edge, making "A" and several other keys on the virtual keyboard impossible to hit. Passing calibration values to the kernel didn't seem to fix anything, but it's possible I was using them the wrong way...
i have the same kind of problem on my Kaiser... i think its realted to hardware... either the housing or the digitizer...
I am experiencing the same problem on X10 mini pro. the same screen spot exactly, i have to try very hard to get z or x or shift to work. Sometimes when I try locking the screen and unlocking it back, it works.
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so after a very long time with this problem i decided to change the digitizer and problem is gonne. visualy the broken digitizer had nothing wrong with it. The fix was fairly easy though, there is no glued parts involved into getting a new digitizer on the u20i.
Touch Screen
I just bought a brand new Cubot One and it looks more than perfect! It has just a little problem with the touch screen ( I think its the software, need ROM change). There is a dead line on the right side of the screen that touch doesn't work at all. Any solutions? Anyone faced that before? Can I fix it myself or do I have to send it back for replacement? Is there any video or guide that shows its done?
I uploaded a video on YouTube to show the problem but i cant post it yet.. (new member)
You can write "Cubot One touch screen problem" and it's the 1st one.
Thank You!

[Q] Touchscreen sometimes work's sometimes doesn't

I've been looking for threads on this topic for some time now. I've seen even one funny thread that said it's good to use TV static on touchscreen to fix it
So, basically my touchscreen stopped working one day. I didn't have time to look at it so for few days I just used buttons to use it. Then it started to work and worked for about a week, and suddenly stopped working again. For about a week, when it started working again.
Then I figured I could just reboot my phone when touchscreen stopped working, and if I took out the battery it magically worked again. But now it won't work so I'm stuck in about 1 week long breaks from my TS.
It's not exactly 7 days, I'm not counting, but it seems to be 6-8 days for each "phase". Now it's quite major inconvenience because last time it worked I changed my alarms and now I have to get up earlier, and Kaiser rings while I'm at work. While other areas of WM6.5 I can usually navigate with just buttons it doesn't work in alarm settings.
I haven't installed anything around the time it started the strange behavior. I don't think it was caused by a fall too, but I can't be sure if it didn't fell back then.
Anyone has ideas for what to do, how to fix it? I read in other thread one could check if TS connectors are tightly connected, but I don't want to open Kaiser to check especially if it's possible that the cause is completely different.
This is a slim chance but worth a try..
Check carefully around the edges of the screen and make sure there's no dirt or anything pressing on the screen.. There's a rubber gasket that's there to keep dirt out but if you get anything under the gasket it will press on the screen making it unresponsive. Take a small piece of thin cardboard and go around it to clean it out.
I had a similar problem and this is what it turned out to be..
Old post but it might help somebody out..
Could it be the metal front housing pressing on the touch screen irregularly?
Should there be a small space in between?

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