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so im running dutty no. 3 final rom with directpush enabled as items arrive.. now im constantly in H and my battery only lasts 2.5hrs in H mode.. compared to the hermes this is HORRIBLE! any one have any ideas? i know H means highspeed pda.. so im wondering if thats why.. i kno the hermes switched back between 3g/H..H only when downloading but the tilt seems to be H non-stop.. whats going on?
I am still on the stock rom and mine lasts 20-24 hours on average.
Well, you answered your own question. You're using DirectPush, which forces a constant data connection. You're using HSDPA, which is a notorious power hog when transferring data, and you're now using it constantly.
If DirectPush is that important to you (i.e., if you get mail so often that you might as well be in constant communication with the e-mail server, or if the mail is so important that you have to have it now), you'll need to find a way to switch off HSDPA in favor of EDGE or GPRS.
There's really no other option.
i like to feel important thats why i use direct push.. the job doesnt require it.. but they do require to check at least once a hour during normal business hours lol. i suppose to could set it to check every hr... shucks. why would it last all day on my hermes but under 3hrs on my tilt?
I've never got more than 35 hours battery life, with gprs (UMTS disabled), pushemail, and 1-2 hours of music playback...
The battery life is VERY BAD, my wizard's time was about 50-60 hours with same use...
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Well, you answered your own question. You're using DirectPush, which forces a constant data connection. You're using HSDPA, which is a notorious power hog when transferring data, and you're now using it constantly.
If DirectPush is that important to you (i.e., if you get mail so often that you might as well be in constant communication with the e-mail server, or if the mail is so important that you have to have it now), you'll need to find a way to switch off HSDPA in favor of EDGE or GPRS.
There's really no other option.
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I installed Duttys Comm Mgr with a 3g on off switch and when I am not surfing the web I am on edge. It has helped dramatically with my battery life. My job requires "as items arrive" Direct Push. I can go a whole day without charging on Edge.
3G was recently enabled in my area and I do not get more than 7hrs of batt life with DirectPush active. Before with EDGE I was good for the whole day (>12hrs).
HSDPA is the problem not DirectPush.
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I am still on the stock rom and mine lasts 20-24 hours on average.
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can you give a little more detail on your settings with 3g off hdspa off bluetooth on and moderate usage of wifi (less than 20mins a day) and only about 30min of calls i only get between 14-16 hours, any info on how to get the extra battery life would be apreciated
I have 3G, direct push, bluetooth on all day and my Tilt outlasts my TyTN by about 30%. I generally charge every other day with normal use.
well....post ur rom maybe? are u in 3G or H all the time? im constantly in H and havent seen the 3G icon at all..
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why would it last all day on my hermes but under 3hrs on my tilt?
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When did AT&T enable HSDPA in your area? It's relatively recent to many metro areas, so it's entirely possible that the Hermes was on Edge 24x7 and what you're seeing is the additional drain of HSDPA and not the change in platform.
But if you're only getting 2.5 hours, there's something else going on. You've an app that's keeping it from going to sleep, you get e-mails every 5 minutes or so, or your battery is bad to begin with.
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I have 3G, direct push, bluetooth on all day and my Tilt outlasts my TyTN by about 30%. I generally charge every other day with normal use.
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Sleuth your running your own cooked ROM for your Tilt aren't you? I loved your ROMS when I had my Hermes.
-McMex
people seem to forget that the mechanism for mobile data is the same as for voice - when you are talking, the phone is just digitising your voice and sending it over the wireless link. Nobody seriously expects 18 hour talk time out of a pocket sized phone, so why do we seem to expect 18 hours of heavy duty data on-line time.
Ok - I know that is a bit simplistic - when you are talking, the data transfer is continuous whereas for ordinary web browsing etc. it is short bursts - but if you are running something which is holding your data link active a lot of the time, you are incurring a similar battery drain to talking - the Kaiser is rated for just over three hours talk time - don't expect 18 hours of push email! And don't forget that the battery drain is simply for running the transmitter in your phone, not for sending the data - sending one byte will consume as much battery as sending a hundred or more - once it decides to send a packet, it is committed to burning charge even if the packet only has one byte in it...
Martin
Just an observation...
I live in the DFW area and my battery life is not up to par with the 8525. I traveled yesterday to a EDGE only area and I noticed a dramatic increase in battery life. Are they related? I dunno at this point, just an interesting observation.
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Sleuth your running your own cooked ROM for your Tilt aren't you? I loved your ROMS when I had my Hermes.
-McMex
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v1.0 Sleuth General Availability for Kaiser is very close....
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well....post ur rom maybe? are u in 3G or H all the time? im constantly in H and havent seen the 3G icon at all..
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That is for sure your issue. The data connection is not only live, but is being used constantly. Turn off direct push and see if it reverts back to 3G. If so, make sure you are not set to use MediaNet as your primary network. Also, be sure to uninstall the hidden proxy (look for the cab that does this in the Cabs thread).
With direct push enabled, my 3G icon only changes to an H when mail is actually coming in.
On my Nokia N95, constant HSDPA connection too chews through the battery as opposed to "plain" 3G; that is, the Kaiser isn't an exception either... It's the best to fall back to GPRS (EDGE) whenever possible.
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When did AT&T enable HSDPA in your area? It's relatively recent to many metro areas, so it's entirely possible that the Hermes was on Edge 24x7 and what you're seeing is the additional drain of HSDPA and not the change in platform.
But if you're only getting 2.5 hours, there's something else going on. You've an app that's keeping it from going to sleep, you get e-mails every 5 minutes or so, or your battery is bad to begin with.
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well on my hermes i had 3G ever since i got it.. but it only went to H when downloading.. so ive had my tilt for 2-3 days now and its always in H.. i know H causes more drain then 3G standby and by far G/E ..funny this is.. i disabled htc home and battery isnt to bad... bout 3% drain every 3mins when connected to H and idle internet connection.
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That is for sure your issue. The data connection is not only live, but is being used constantly. Turn off direct push and see if it reverts back to 3G. If so, make sure you are not set to use MediaNet as your primary network. Also, be sure to uninstall the hidden proxy (look for the cab that does this in the Cabs thread).
With direct push enabled, my 3G icon only changes to an H when mail is actually coming in.
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ive turned off direct push and it still remains H.. ill try disabling the proxy. good call.. will post my results
ok disabled the proxy, turned off push, still have a big H but no more tiny H on the signal bars which means its not connected to the internet but when i soft reset it automatically reconnects.. whats the deal here lol.
ok forgot i had kaiser tweak set to always on.. fixed that, but now im still displaying H havent seen a 3G icon yet.. whats going on lol
is there any way it can help my tilt from preventing battery drained..it was fulled charged at 11 pm (only instant message was still running but no messages), woke up at 9am and theres only 53% battery left. i barely listening to music but when i do it killed faster.
changing radio can change the rate of battery drain
What type of Messaging were you running? What program? Some keep a continual data connection & if you're in 3G territory that can easily account for that battery drain.
I used to leave HSDPA on and auto check email every 10 mins, my battery only last more than a day even without any phone call in this time. I was then disabled the 3G + HSDPA, just leave the GSM on (changed this in the phone's band), my battery now last about 4 days and still have some power.
Your data connection kills your battery severely, this may be what caused your battery drain 50% over night.
my 3G is always on. I have internet and everything. does 3G interfering my internet connection?
u can get very good battery life when 3G service is deactivated.
also make sure disable wifi, make sure when not in use no application will auto on the wifi...
make sure device lock is set to lock all buttons.
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I used to leave HSDPA on and auto check email every 10 mins, my battery only last more than a day even without any phone call in this time. I was then disabled the 3G + HSDPA, just leave the GSM on (changed this in the phone's band), my battery now last about 4 days and still have some power.
Your data connection kills your battery severely, this may be what caused your battery drain 50% over night.
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what does HSDPA do? i turned off 3G already. i pay unlimited monthly internet so are those things that i turned off interfering anything from it? i Disable HSDPA already and my internet still connecting. sorry for many questions but im pretty new at this tilt.
Just make sure the icon and or mobile operator name has no 3G indication. Yes u still can get connected via internet, which is through your GPRS, which online activates when as you wish. 3G is passive mode whereas GPRS is dynamic.
Dear all,
With a small 900mAh battery, What is the real world usage time? I mean making up to 2 hours of calls per day does it last at least 12hours before the need to recharge battery and this is assuming that 3G is on all the time. Thanks.
French network technical support say 60 hours with GPS on !!!!
I think it's joke.
Well, I've been watching the battery life on mine for a couple of days now in a reasonably scientific way and here are the early rather speculative results:
With just GPRS and nothing else on and very light use the battery drops from 100% to 80% very fast - less than an hour of light use.
Leaving it running on these settings will run it down to about 20% by the end of the working day - the drain seems to ease off aftert he first sharp drop
Powering up wifi and music for short time doesn't seem to make much difference.
Turning 3G on also doesn't seem to make the difference you would expect either.
So basically I would feel the need to take a charger with me if I left the house for the day, which will probably mean that I have to send the thing back. I've seen the coolsmartphone video review and mine isn't performing anything like that one - I would say I am loosing charge at about twice the rate.
Now the only issues that could be at work here is that I live in a lousy reception area. But could this really make such a difference?
What I would find really useful is a list of other tweaks you can make to cut power use so I can try them out. But at the end of the day it's looking like too many compromises would be needed to make this thing practical for me.
Reception would make a reasonable difference if normal network messages are being sent/received (general scans of BCCH channels, authentication with the network) - i.e. the radio isnt being used for data/voice, and only to keep registered to the network. But during those times the rest of the phone would also be in low power mode, so i would say an absolute max of 5 to 10%.
It would make a significant difference if you are transmiting data/making calls in a low reception area. I would say easily upto 20%.
It sounds to me like if you plan to use the phone much at all during the day you need a second battery. Then that turns into the hassle of how to charge the second battery every night, and i bet the desktop stand can't charge a second battery
My conclusions exactly. Impractical to say the least.
The puzzle then is why my last phone, a Nokia E51 with a 1050 mAh battery, under the same conditions, managed to last 2-3 days?
Is WM6 really that much of a power grabber compared to S60?
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My conclusions exactly. Impractical to say the least.
The puzzle then is why my last phone, a Nokia E51 with a 1050 mAh battery, under the same conditions, managed to last 2-3 days?
Is WM6 really that much of a power grabber compared to S60?
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Short answer - yes.
There's all these power saving features in new app processors like being able to leave the screen on while powering down the main CPU. You can use an interupt from the radio to wake up the processor etc.
Windows doesnt support half of these features, thats why find windows phones save all their power by turning the screen off. Other phones with screens just as big are alot less regimental about turning the screen off at any opertunity.
I was involved in a project once to design a smartphone and it was a really surprising how much difference there was between the windows version they suplied and an ARM version of linux.
I have HTC Touch Crouse and i have problems with battery (GPRS always on and Bluetooth) ... now with Diamond i have VERY BIG Problem. Battery Keeps less than one day ...
The experiment continues.
Disabling "GPRS auto attach" in Advanced Configuration Tool has made a big difference - still 90% after 6 hours now.
Now this is a surprise to me because I thought that you did this when you set the network seek to GSM only and not hunt for 3G. Or maybe I'm getting my GPRSs and GSMs mixed up...
Next step - leave this setting in place and turn push back on. Watch this space.
GSM digitises your voice and slots it into a time divided channel on a frequency, and marks it as voice. On the network side, it converts this back to voice and sends it on the PSTN network (for a landline call).
GPRS takes data you want to send and inserts it directly in the same time divided channel and marks it as data. On the network side the network transfers this onto the internet (or other network) through the GGSN (its essentially a router).
So GSM and GPRS use the same technology. Setting the phone to GSM only, just stops it connecting to 3g networks.
Anyway, when you turn your phone on, the tower tells it its capabilities eg GPRS. This give you a GPRS available icon. When you actually want to send data, you need to 'attach'. This is like logging into the network.
To do that you need to open a data channel and send your login details.
Normal phones will do that i.e. attach, and then go idle. The network will only log them off if they move to a new cell and do not reauthenticate.
Anyway, if you are not attached:
- When you send data, the phone will need to attach first (milliseconds delay) - unoticable.
- You will NOT have an IP address so incoming data can not reach you.
If you use pop3 with regular pull of email, it'll make less difference the more frequently you pull your email - because every time you do, the phone will attach.
If you use PUSH email, it'll make no difference because you have to remain attached (have an ip address) for push to work.
I'm sure most people didn't care to know all that but i'm sure some did!
Wow. Thanks. Impressive.
Let me try to summarise. With auto attach off the phone isn't trying to attach to the 3G network all the time which saves power. But it is also disconnected from GPRS and data networks. However this won't affect push email because it will attach when it needs to, ie when the network tells it that there is mail or I send something out. Is this right?
What about internet? Will the phone automatically attach to the data netowrks when I fire up Opera? Presumably to attach to 3G I will need to reset to automatically seek WCDMA.
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Wow. Thanks. Impressive.
Let me try to summarise. With auto attach off the phone isn't trying to attach to the 3G network all the time which saves power. But it is also disconnected from GPRS and data networks. However this won't affect push email because it will attach when it needs to, ie when the network tells it that there is mail or I send something out. Is this right?
What about internet? Will the phone automatically attach to the data netowrks when I fire up Opera? Presumably to attach to 3G I will need to reset to automatically seek WCDMA.
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You're still a bit confused i think. Ok on a phone you have voice or data. Data covers mail, internet, weather updates etc etc, voice covers phone calls.
There are two distinct protocols here, and we need to talk about them diferently...
GSM:
With GSM calls are sent over 1 timeslot and singalled as voice.
To make a call you need to have a signal, that takes a very short few messages which are sent every 20 minutes or so, or if you move around between towers. The Radio in the phone can do this all by itself without waking the phone up.
If you want to send ANY data (emails, internet, anything) you need to use GPRS. GPRS uses the same channels but inserts data into them instead of voice. Before you can send or receive any data you need to 'login' to the network. To login you need to actually open the channel and make a connection. Logging in is called 'ataching'. When you attach you get an IP address and the network can send stuff to you and u can send stuff to the network. Attaching needs to wake up the phone.
Once attached the phone can go into a sleep mode saving power, but any data send or received will wake up the phone.
UMTS/3G
UMTS is different in that everything is sent code divided. There is no 'login' or attach as such. In this mode all your voice gets converted to data and sent across.
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With auto attach on:
If you use 3G mode, every time you switch between a 3G and GPRS area the phone will atach (GPRS) again, this will drain power.
Every time you move out of GPRS and come back into GPRS the phone will attach, even if you have nothing to send.
With autoattach off:
The phone will only attach if it has something to send AND is on GPRS (no 3G available or 3g turned off)
The upside is that you save power when you move between cells. The downside is that you can't receive any data from the network untill you decide to attach.
For push email for example you would never end up detaching as it would hold the connection open.
Anyway i hope that clear, but i'm quite sleepy so it might not make any sense lol
That makes sense to me. When I get my Touch Diamond, I'm definitely turning 'GPRS auto attach' off, because I don't think I need it on.
someone1234 that`s really useful info.I guess autoattach off is the best option for me too. WHEN the phone arrives.
Thanks again senior1234. I'm getting there. But this is more complex that I thought so I've gone back and checked what really makes a difference to the battery life.
The big difference for me is having the phone band set to GSM only (phone, options). Disabling auto attach makes a difference but not as much as I thought. I had changed both of them at the same time, thinking that they were more or less the same thing. Sorry folks. Very unscientific.
But if you feel like trying these bear in mind that I don't move between cells very much and have awful reception. I'll leave it to others to explain whether this is important.
HTC told me that with the screen on full brightness and phone turned on the GPS would only last about 2 hours befre the battery died, looks like we'll need the extended battery or several normal ones!
moonlanding said:
Thanks again senior1234. I'm getting there. But this is more complex that I thought so I've gone back and checked what really makes a difference to the battery life.
The big difference for me is having the phone band set to GSM only (phone, options). Disabling auto attach makes a difference but not as much as I thought. I had changed both of them at the same time, thinking that they were more or less the same thing. Sorry folks. Very unscientific.
But if you feel like trying these bear in mind that I don't move between cells very much and have awful reception. I'll leave it to others to explain whether this is important.
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GSM will use alot less power, so that is whats definatly making the difference
Why? Well.. GSM uses time division, which means the phones in an area take turns 'speaks'/'listening' with the tower. This ensures that no two phones are talking at the same time, and the tower can 'hear' what was sent. Because of this the power the phone transmits with can be controlled to be just high enough for the tower to listen, but not too high as to waste battery.
The down side of this scheme is that even if a phone has nothing to 'say', the other phones will wait in case it does. This means you're wasting bandwidth - or time that could be used by another phone to send data. Bottom line, data throughput is slower!
With 3G, all phones can talk at the same time. The data they send is tagged with a code, so that the data doesnt get mixed up. The advantage here is no time is wasted waiting for phones that may have nothing to send. The down side is that you need to be 'talking' loud enough to 'talk' over other people sending. This is why the data rate over 3G drops off really rapidly as you move away from the tower.
The disadvantages are a phone far from the tower using 3G will use more power than one using GSM because its having to 'talk' louder to get over other phones 'talking'.
Also, signals that get lost because they were drowned out by other phones have to be retransmited, which doesnt happen with GSM as much.
Yeah 3G or CDMA based channel access methods are a real power hog!
As for Auto attach you would expect it to only make a real difference if you have programs holding channels open.
With regards to low reception, it will make a significant difference because power disipation is not linear. Like all radiation it follows the inverse square law. For every meter distance the power drops of by a square of the distance.
Don't forget, when comparing uptime with other phones, with the diamond you have 4x the amount of pixels. VGA (640 x 480) devices will always chew up more Battery that QVGA (320 x 240) . This is one of the main reasons that HTC and the others delayed shipping VGA devices until now.
If you want longer battery life, you are going to have to stop using the display so often.
There is no way a vga machine can compete with a qvga machine on battery life... when all other factors are equal.
I think if you discount 3G, the battery is a little too small for the phone. With 3G its wholy inadequate.
The screen does make a huge difference, but these screens are more efficient, and HTC have used every opertunity to turn the screen off - a bit excessivly if you look at how fast it turns off when you make a call.
I don't understand why they don't use the iphone method of turning it off when the light sensor shows its dark (in a call).. i.e. the earpiece is next to your head!
moonlanding said:
The experiment continues.
Disabling "GPRS auto attach" in Advanced Configuration Tool has made a big difference - still 90% after 6 hours now.
Now this is a surprise to me because I thought that you did this when you set the network seek to GSM only and not hunt for 3G. Or maybe I'm getting my GPRSs and GSMs mixed up...
Next step - leave this setting in place and turn push back on. Watch this space.
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I've disabled gprs auto attach and set my band to GSM. When i connect to net with opera will it still turn on 3G etc?
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I've disabled gprs auto attach and set my band to GSM. When i connect to net with opera will it still turn on 3G etc?
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good question.
i only use my phone for normal phone stuff ans sometimes for some internet browsing.
should i turn anything on or off?
I have a ATT type Nexus One (not Tmobile), unrooted, with latest froyo.
The life of the battery in 3G mode vs. 2 G mode is astonishing...pretty ridiculous.
I'm searching but can someone tell me if there's been any fixes or advancements in regard to this problem?
When at home I use wifi as much as possible. I leave it on 2G but really, I can't take the slow speeds of 2G, but 3G setting is suuuuuuch a drain on the battery that it seems unreal.
i've had nokia's and more in 3G, my wifes iphone is 3G... and all of them had nearly more than double the battery life.
I hate the voice quality of 2G, I'd love to be able to just leave at 3G, but it's merely hours before it's nearly drained set on 3G. it's got to be a problem (and one that hopefully can be fixed).
Why would 3G setting be sucking THAT much power (decent-strong signals too here)?
Love my nexus1 and I'll live I guess but this problem...it's a bit much.
Any news on this issue, or other things I can consider or change/try to help this? (3G)
thanks
Set your WiFi sleep policy to NEVER. Even thought you're using WiFi at home, whe nthe screen goes off the WiFi shut off and 3G kick in.
Menu>Settings>WiFi settings>Menu>Advance>WiFi sleep policy>Never.
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Set your WiFi sleep policy to NEVER. Even thought you're using WiFi at home, whe nthe screen goes off the WiFi shut off and 3G kick in.
Menu>Settings>WiFi settings>Menu>Advance>WiFi sleep policy>Never.
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Oh very sorry, I should have said I did set this to never and saved changes.
In fact, I think I've set it 1000x now btw, over some time it STILL always disconnects from wifi (might be router disconnecting though, perhaps I should set an IP manually to solve this??).
GPS and BT are always turned off until needed as well (used very rarely anyways btw).
But when I'm away from home for example, I turn wifi off and test the difference2G vs. 3G and the difference is waaaaay too much, 3G just CHEWS at the battery no matter strong signal or medium.
I find it hard to believe 3G really has to eat up that much battery when set compared to 2G on a Nexus. A little bit to nominal ...sure, but not like this (say like 4-6 hours if i left it 3G for a day with little usage).
What's really happening here? Nothing from google/HTC on this matter?
Heh, i get just the opposite... out in the farmland of west toledo, im getting 2G but typically GPRS and that rapes my battery where as 3G i could go on standby for days if i didnt touch it...
What radio are you running? if your phone is constantly looking for a signal then that may be your problem...
I have the same issue on 3g. Home on WiFi is ok but when I go out during the day on 3g it just kills my battery.
The reason is because android OS keeps the data session open at all times where other OS's close it down when not in use. It's just the nature of how they designed android.
As a test, one day turn off your data connection but stay on 3g and see how good your battery life is. This is how some other OS's work normally.
It's a trade off we have to make for being always connected on android.
For example voice actions need to reach out to Google's servers to work. So in the interest of speed of having to open the data session each time, the OS just keeps data open on hand at all times. But that kills battery quicker.
That's what I've found anyway.
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Heh, i get just the opposite... out in the farmland of west toledo, im getting 2G but typically GPRS and that rapes my battery where as 3G i could go on standby for days if i didnt touch it...
What radio are you running? if your phone is constantly looking for a signal then that may be your problem...
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That's because the phone is always on the lookout for a 3G signal, if you know you aren't going to get one, just set it to 2G only and your battery life will massively improve.
Hey all,
Does anyone else notice that they get better battery life while on LTE/HSPA rather than on WiFi? I decided to leave my WiFi off yesterday to see how well the phone does while using the GSM radios. To my surprise, the GSM radios were more efficient. I also noticed that on the stock battery app there were way fewer instances of the phone being "awake". With 11hrs off the charger,1.5 hour of SOT, 45 minutes of music I had 73% battery left. To me this is solid battery life. With the same exact routine and WiFi on I have about 65% battery left. Not a huge difference but enough to where I don't feel the need to juice up during the day if I am going out at night. I'm doing the same thing today to see if it is an anomaly but so far it looks like it is the same as yesterday. Anyone else seeing this?
Variables:
Stock, unlocked, not rooted.
brightness set to 1/3
T-Mobile $30 plan.
This is in NYC which has great T-Mobile service, that being said the bars in the battery life menu are "yellow" indicating the signal is "ok"....mostly because the testing was done indoors.
Google Now enabled.
GPS set to battery savings
Scanning always available (in wifi settings) turned off.
Greg Tolan said:
Hey all,
Does anyone else notice that they get better battery life while on LTE/HSPA rather than on WiFi? I decided to leave my WiFi off yesterday to see how well the phone does while using the GSM radios. To my surprise, the GSM radios were more efficient. I also noticed that on the stock battery app there were way fewer instances of the phone being "awake". With 11hrs off the charger,1.5 hour of SOT, 45 minutes of music I had 73% battery left. To me this is solid battery life. With the same exact routine and WiFi on I have about 65% battery left. Not a huge difference but enough to where I don't feel the need to juice up during the day if I am going out at night. I'm doing the same thing today to see if it is an anomaly but so far it looks like it is the same as yesterday. Anyone else seeing this?
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Stock, unlocked, not rooted.
brightness set to 1/3
T-Mobile $30 plan.
This is in NYC which has great T-Mobile service, that being said the bars in the battery life menu are "yellow" indicating the signal is "ok"....mostly because the testing was done indoors.
Google Now enabled.
GPS set to battery savings
Scanning always available (in wifi settings) turned off.
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I agree. I just turn off wifi, use LTE only.
But I have to turn on wifi when I download something or update, I have limited data plan :crying:
If I have unlimited data plan, I will completely turn off wifi
Same here today. All day with data (tmobile) and had wifi off. Was getting better SOT on data vs wifi.
Is there a way to enable/disable WIFI automatically based on location? through an app or native os function?
This probably had something to do with the n5 having only one main antennae for cellular connections. The phone isn't connected to LTE and gsm at the same time, just LTE and switches back to gsm when a call comes in. Therefore when only connected to a cellular network only one radio is on. In contrast with Wi-Fi on that is another radio consuming power. Someone correct me if this is incorrect.
I've noticed this recently but my situation is because when I was on wireless I was getting a lot of wlan_Rx_wake wakelocks. I obviously wasn't getting it when on LTE alone. I've managed find the issue on my network at home . now I have to figure out what the issue is on my hotspot. My phone has been sleeping like a bear in the winter now. I imagine a lot of people are probably getting a lot of these wakelocks. I wonder what makes this phone susceptible to it and not the other nexus devices.
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shiz222 said:
Is there a way to enable/disable WIFI automatically based on location? through an app or native os function?
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This app is pricey but amazing.
shiz222 said:
Is there a way to enable/disable WIFI automatically based on location? through an app or native os function?
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Tasker does the same and it is way cheaper.
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there's a wifi bug that is supposed to be fixed in the next update which is probably 4.4.1
-Cupper- said:
This app is pricey but amazing.
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Soldier 2.0 said:
Tasker does the same and it is way cheaper.
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10 bucks is ridiculous. I found Llama that does practically the same thing (if not identical). I've set it up to disable WIFI as soon as i leave "home" and enable it when i get to "work", as well as set up other actions (quite mode after midnight etc) within the profile.
and its free
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shiz222 said:
10 bucks is ridiculous. I found Llama that does practically the same thing (if not identical). I've set it up to disable WIFI as soon as i leave "home" and enable it when i get to "work", as well as set up other actions (quite mode after midnight etc) within the profile.
and its free
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If you're comparing lama to tasker specifically, llama does about 10% (being generous) of what tasker does. Although there's a lot of learning to be done.
I'd pay 100 Bucks for tasker
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Well the nexus5 utilises envelope tracking when ring on LTE. Maybe it's doing its job... http://androidcommunity.com/nexus-5-getting-battery-boost-from-qualcomms-envelope-tracking-20131101/
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An interesting question in this forum post but does this not really depend on the strength of the wifi/LTE signal? For me on wi-fi at home I can easily get 6 hours+ SOT. On a normal day with a mix of LTE & Wi-Fi I generally after between 4 and 5 hours SOT. My wi-fi signal at work is stronger than the LTE signal so I generally use the strength of the signal as a rule of thumb as to which will provide better batter rather than just the signal itself.
shiz222 said:
Is there a way to enable/disable WIFI automatically based on location? through an app or native os function?
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Hi, I just made this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sdev.autofi&hl=en
Basically uses GSM/CDMA and GPS Locations to automatically turn on/off your Wi-Fi. The app is for free.
Note, this is my first app, so if app crashes please submit the report so that I can fix it.
Leaving my phone over night with no wakes showing it will lose 3x as much battery idling with the screen off then on WiFi.
This was using "turn WiFi off during sleep" option to test if I could further minimize over night battery loss. I lose about 3% over 8 hours of idle, but on my data connection it lost 9%.
When the WiFi turns off the Data connection turns on, and vice versa. So only one is only ever being used at one time.