Scala Rider / Voice command problem - HD2 Accessories

Hi,
here is my problem, Voice command works well on HD2, but when I connect my Scala rider, the signal from voice command doesn't work on my ear but always on the phone.
Any body solve it ?
I try to on register base, but alays the same.
Thanks

dax-06 said:
Hi,
here is my problem, Voice command works well on HD2, but when I connect my Scala rider, the signal from voice command doesn't work on my ear but always on the phone.
Any body solve it ?
I try to on register base, but alays the same.
Thanks
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Do a few searches on BT connections and MSVC or CSVD.... this is an issue with the BT stack used... the HD2 (like the touchpro2) uses a Widcomm stack instead of the usual Microsoft one... the Widcomm stack does not play nice with a lot of app including MSVC... Its a huge problem and one that the HTC idiots have chosen to ignore (just like the SMS problems)....
I hope custom ROMs will solve our problem although many chefs have said that changing a BT stack isnt so simple....

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Jabra BT 800 and Broadcomm 3900 upgrade

:? Hi guys Just wondered if any of you guys are experienced problems with the Jabra bt800 working intermittently. Sometimes it works but most of the time it does'nt . I've upgraded to Broadcom 3900 and although blue tooth audio still crackles its not as bad.. The headset works alot better with my SPV C500.. Any ideas or experiences :?:
bt 800
hi i have xda2s with bt 800 working somtimes
i upgradeed to bt3900 but i see no change
somtime i takes 5-6 kye presss to unswerr a phone call
i do not have any audio problem the audio is ok
glad to know i am not the only one.. cheers for replying
did you try to contact jabra support???
I have a contact in GN Netcom so will have a chat with him next week and post the response here
thenks :wink:
:? Ok after talking to my contact in GN Netcom we have come to the conclusion (seings as it works fine with my Motorolla V3 and Nokia 6810 and 6820 and Siemens SK65) that the issue lies with the Bluetooth stack on my 2s.I did explain about this that i had upgraded it to the newer version and i personally believe they have not totally replicated the way the Bluetooth in the xda2s behaves the same as a normal bluetooth enabled phones.
I believe that because it works fine on most of the Manufacturers phones and the XDA's of this world are low priority to get it right.. I still believe it will be fixed in future Bluetooth upgrades on the xda2s.. doh still think that even though the display and buttons work intermittently it is still worth having for the DSP
The problem still exists!
I have Qrek 9090 and Jabra t800. Audio is very good and also on the good range.
BUT...
Main problem (even with Jabra 800 fix CAB file) is that I can't normaly answer the phone call. It takes about 5 or 6 times before I can reply the call. And also, it takes about 2 seconds before I can hear other side opponent.
I just wonder if you people have some kind of this problem. Any expirince. Could you please share with me some information.
I use Danghard rom 1.44 wit BT 3900.
Thanks a lot.
Leonid.
Update to Latest Ow2 ROM...the BT 3900 workd flaw lewssly.I hv tried BT with SE HBH 30/262 etc Blue Trek G2 and no problems....Also with Motorolla 810...
Moreover, Motorolla and Bluetrek supports voice dialing too :lol:
Thank you, but I'm talking about Jabra BT 800, cause it has so many features that I need. So, I would like that my Jabra headset will work fine with Qtek 9090.
Guys, please help! :lol:
Guys! Really need your help.
I used before another headset and didn't have any problems. But after I bought Jabra BT 800 I got serous problems. It really takes about 6 rings before I can answer a call. So, a lot of people just hang up and I have to call them back. :evil:
Nothing really helped. :evil:
I'm confused, cause I really like this headset and would like to use it.
HELP!
:lol:
Thanks!
hdubli said:
Update to Latest Ow2 ROM...the BT 3900 workd flaw lewssly.I hv tried BT with SE HBH 30/262 etc Blue Trek G2 and no problems....Also with Motorolla 810...
Moreover, Motorolla and Bluetrek supports voice dialing too :lol:
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Voicedialing? How?
I have a HS810, it works fine, but how do you have voicedialing with it?
Moreover, Motorolla and Bluetrek supports voice dialing too
Voicedialing? How?
I have a HS810, it works fine, but how do you have voicedialing with it?
well I too own a Bluetreck G2R and a lot of crackling sound I have upgraded my BT stack to 3900 and most of my callers only hear the crackling so I have to swap my call to the phone and talk or have to call them back
also how do u use Voice dailing on the bluetreck for my xda IIs ???
can some one help me ?
Hi..use search,,,still this is how to do a voice dialling:
1) Install MS Voice command and assign a Hardware button(any) to activate the software so that it an listen to our commands.
2) Now, just press the "Call answer" button of your BT.By doing so it will activate the sound on your 2s.Then press that harware button of Voice command and speak...
It works flawlessly
Thanks
thank s
Ill def try going to Delhi, will return and sure thry Voice dial and re-install my BT stack to see if there is crackling sound still there
also how long can you try to distance your phone from the BT
I got one Jabra bt800
its superb and must say its a best one around with lots of features
Eehheh and you call that voice dialing?
If i had to do all of that to voice dial i could also press the button on the device and talk the name to it. And that would be one click less than with your solution.
I think the idea of voice dial with bluetooth is to keep the phone in your pocket and do the talking via bluetooth only.
hdubli said:
Hi..use search,,,still this is how to do a voice dialling:
1) Install MS Voice command and assign a Hardware button(any) to activate the software so that it an listen to our commands.
2) Now, just press the "Call answer" button of your BT.By doing so it will activate the sound on your 2s.Then press that harware button of Voice command and speak...
It works flawlessly
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spread_smiles said:
thank s
Ill def try going to Delhi, will return and sure thry Voice dial and re-install my BT stack to see if there is crackling sound still there
also how long can you try to distance your phone from the BT
I got one Jabra bt800
its superb and must say its a best one around with lots of features
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But can you tell me. Do you also have such problems with Jabra 800 as I have. The sound of BT and range is best. But what about time to answer the call. I press answer button hundred times to be able to speake with opponent.
Hi again guys.
Still can't solve my problem with BT 800.
I contacted with several companies but didn't get any correct answer.
Really don't know what to do.
Can you please tell what exactly this CAB file from FTP fixes cause nothig changed since I installed it.
Thank you and please foget me for bothering you.
Leo.
Gentlemen,
After a week or so exploring this forum and experimenting with my Logitech bluetooth hands free I've got a feeling that the only possible solution for the moment is to prevent the BA from getting into the sleep mode. Use ScreenLock or Mort Saver instead.
Solid_Lynx said:
Gentlemen,
After a week or so exploring this forum and experimenting with my Logitech bluetooth hands free I've got a feeling that the only possible solution for the moment is to prevent the BA from getting into the sleep mode. Use ScreenLock or Mort Saver instead.
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Well, thank you.
But as I understood from different threads in forum this is one way.
But... I'll kill battery of PDA very quickly. Really don't think that it's a good idea.
People from Jabra told me that new firmware will come soon and will help to solve this problem.
So.. I think that it's not the fault of PDA or ROM... :?

ISSUE- Voice not over BT headset

Guys,
I understand you are concentrating on the WM5 upgrade and other interesting projects. Maybe, you can take a few moments out to share some of your experience with a newbie....
I am using TuMa v1.5 WM5. I am able to use BT really well (of course, the issue of BT turning off with device on stand-by remains).
I am able to connect with my TomTom and with my Cardo Scala BT headset. The problem is this: If I use the headset to initiate a call using the BT headset (by double-clicking the headset buttom to redial or by pressing the BT headset button to voice dial) the call goes through as intended BUT my voice does not go over the BT headset to the other party. Also, the voice from the other party can be heard over both, the BT headset and the phone. This problem DOES NOT appear if I make the calls using the phone with the BT headset connected to it.
Please advice. Thanks for your help and for a great forum, especuially for us newbies.
Sagar
bt headset
Select use for phone only. Perhaps then it works.
The headset is connecting to device audio, not phone audio.
sgrbhtngr said:
... I am using TuMa v1.5 WM5.
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Really? ... Wow! I'd better update my firewall again.
How'd you steal that version off my machine! 8)
For the sake of argument, I'll presume you're using v1.4, since it has the most up to date BT elements in it, but v1.3 should be very stable for BT communications as well.
sgrbhtngr said:
I am able to use BT really well (of course, the issue of BT turning off with device on stand-by remains).
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Yeah ... I'm still looking into this. I hope to have this working through the Microsoft Stack. The Widcomm one is still looking like a "last resort", and it really is a bit more 'ugly' to use - especially in it's compatibility and (from what I can see) reliability.
sgrbhtngr said:
I am able to connect with my TomTom and with my Cardo Scala BT headset. The problem is this: If I use the headset to initiate a call using the BT headset (by double-clicking the headset button to redial or by pressing the BT headset button to voice dial) the call goes through as intended BUT my voice does not go over the BT headset to the other party. Also, the voice from the other party can be heard over both, the BT headset and the phone. This problem DOES NOT appear if I make the calls using the phone with the BT headset connected to it.
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Hmmm ... this sounds like there is still some form of a headset audio routing issue as vastloper indicates. Try ensuring that only one profile is active at the time (headset probably).
I will shortly have all the gear I need in order to properly test this myself too.
FYI: I've now recently purchased the following devices:
- SIRF Chipset Bluetooth GPS Unit
- Motorola HT820 Stereo Bluetooth Headphones
- Jabra BT 150 Headset
- Jabra BT 330 Headset
- BlueTrek X1 Headset
And now have access to another Jabra BT 500 Headset, and another pair of Bluetooth Stereo Headphones.
So ... shortly, I will have the ability to REALLY test everything out myself in the Bluetooth realm.
Now all I need is 5 ears, and enough pockets to carry all this stuff in.
The process I used....
Thanks, vastloper and Tuatara.
Tuatara- genius AND a sense of humor... thats a rare combo! We all appreciate your efforts in bringing WM5 to us. You go out of your way to make it better for us. Thanks.
Regarding the issue on this post, just FYI- I used MOHDWADEA's process for voice command over BT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42923&highlight=
Could this cause the problem? Does this light any light-bulbs, any 'aha' moments? Please let me know- I greatly apprecaiet it.
Thanks,
Sagar
Re: The process I used....
sgrbhtngr said:
Thanks, vastloper and Tuatara.
Tuatara- genius AND a sense of humor... thats a rare combo! We all appreciate your efforts in bringing WM5 to us. You go out of your way to make it better for us. Thanks.
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You're welcome ... remember it is a 'selfish' undertaking too. I want my phone to [email protected]$#@!#!! work for me ... but it's taking some work to get it to that point.
sgrbhtngr said:
Regarding the issue on this post, just FYI- I used MOHDWADEA's process for voice command over BT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42923&highlight=
Could this cause the problem? Does this light any light-bulbs, any 'aha' moments? Please let me know- I greatly apprecaiet it.
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It's possible. I'm not entirely certain what this will change in the configuration (or versioning of replaced DLL's), but it is possible that there are compatibilty issues. Since I don't have a device with TuMa v1.3 on it anymore (one's on Alpha v1.5 testing, and the other is a AKU2 'brick' attempt at the moment), I can't even find out for you.

Kaiser: bluetooth stack problem!

aladin2000 said:
Hi,
do you tried also a buttom to call with voice command application or a phone call ?
I've a HTC S100 and the sound is well but it's very difficult to start a voice commande or to recall last call because seem that the function "hand free" sometime is lose.
Sorry for my poor English !
Regards
aladino
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I have the same problem with my handsfree headsets an Tytn II (kaiser):
i have a motorola H700 and a Scalarider headset for helmets.
They are bot NON-ADP and thyey support handsfree.
Sometimes the button on them stop working and I can't do voice dialing with Voice command neither repeat last call.
They appear as connected and If I manually call a number they work.
To get the button works again I have to restart the phone.
Maybe a fault in the microsoft bluetooth stack?
Also: my Motorola H700 has a flip and when you open it the headset turn on and get connected.
You should be able to answer phone calls by opening the flip.
Sometimes it works, but most of the time it doesn't connect if I open it while the phone is ringing and in that case I have to restart bluetooth connection to make it work again.
Microsoft or HTC should check end improve bluetooth stack!
Any hack around?
Can't we put the broadcom instead of microsoft stack on kaiser?
I wrote to HTC Support about this problem and they answered :
"Customer email address:XXXXXXXXXX
Good Afternoon,
The multi function button is the one small button with the led light in, not the big play/pause button.
If you try the other button, it should work.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
Best regards,
XXXXX
HTC Europe
[email protected]
http://www.htc.com "
That's incredible don't you ?
They beleive I'm idiot ?
Regards
aladino
Astonished!
Amazing answer!
Are they idiot?
I'll write them too,
I hope someone cleverer will read the my mail
and suggest the bug to the technical stuff.
I have a motorola H350 and have been experiencing the same problems. It's driving me mad. The problem makes the use of the hands free totally useless as it seems to stop working at the drop of a hat.
What I've found so far.
To get it working you need to turn on the ear piece.
Then turn on the bluetooth on the phone.
If you do this any other way it doesn't work. Once it's working you may or may not be able to hang up with the button. If that's the case it won't answer with the button either.
Once it's working it seems to work ok till either the headset or the phone's bluetooth is turned off.
Voice dial will not fire up until the main procedure if followed and sometimes it takes several tries.
I was wondering if this was something to do with the motorola but seemingly it's to do with the stack so getting another device isn't going to help I guess.
The bluetooth worked perfectly on the Hermes but immediately I got the Kaiser one thing alerted me to the fact that something was different.
With the Hermes, as soon as I turned on the bluetooth and the earpiece the phone would alert me to the fact that the motorola wanted to connect.
With the Kaiser nothing, even when I searched for a device. I had to find out how to put the earpiece into search mode before it would find it.
Very flakey and very disappointing. I hope someone finds a fix for this.
Anyone else experiencing these problems?
I've got an H700 and Jawbone. I do notice more crackle type sounds and lower volume on both using Kaiser compared to my 8525. The H700 connects within 1-2 seconds when opening it's flip and I have noticed that on occasion, if I walk away from the phone (eg. phone on desk) the headset may not reconnect when I return. The Jawbone has been fairly good at connecting and staying functional at all times but the volume is lower as noted by many people.
I would say that the stack overall is better than the 8525's for all the devices I've tried (3 headsets, 2 Laptops, 1 Garmin Streetpilot with BT Phone interface)
I am also losing the Voice speed dial & redial button from time to time. It also worked that way with my hermes, so I kinda get used to it...
I am now wondering if it is related to my BT earpiece (nokia bh-200 or something like this) of if it is the BT stack which has never been really working on all the device I could test (hermes, trinity, kaiser).
I allmost never had issue recieving call (I don't recieve much call while using the BT earpiece) but it is sometime impossible to initiate a call through the BT earpiece.
The simplest way for me to lose the voice recognition is to:
-Start BT on the phone
-Start BT earpiece
Phone recognize the earpiece, everything is fine
-Restart the phone
Phone & BT reconnect, but voice recognition & redial are gone
I would really appreciate of some of you could test my little procedure and report if it works of not. If it is working for some other BT earpiece I may change mine and get rid of this eternal annoying issue.
Thanks
Jabra BT500
I have the Jabra BT500 and same problem with the TyTn II.
The earpiece can't initiate a voice call...
Looks like HTC (or Windows), starts to deliver ROMs like Mr. Bill Gates does with his M$ crap...
If someone find a solution for this Bluetooth problem, please post it!!!!
Thanks a lot,
Kaiser and Moto H700 just do not work together
I also have a problem with the Kaiser and a Moto H700. The M700 button stops working randomly, the BT connection sometimes disconnect during the call at will.
I can still use H700 successfully with my old Nokia 6680, so the problem clearly is in the Kaisers BT stack.
I’ve made the BT update that HTC posted just recently for TyTN II, but it had no effect.
Fortunately, I have my old Moto H500. This one is working OK with the Kaiser, but. Like it was pointed here before me, the only way to get it working you need to turn on the ear piece. Then turn on the Bluetooth on the phone.
In case if the Bluetooth connection was disrupted for some reason, the only way to make it work is again swath Kaiser BT off then turn on the ear piece and switch on the TyTNs BT.
The Kaiser’s BT stack is not good also connecting with a PC, the connection is just not stable.
Just wanted to chime in and say I've had the exact same problems with my Tilt and Motorola H700 as various people have described here. I posted about it on the AT&T forum too, and no one there has any working solution either, AFAIK. I too tried the "fix" from HTC, and to no avail.
This is a pretty big disappointment for me; I love my Tilt, but Bluetooth is not new technology, and it's really inconvenient that it works so poorly on this phone.
Motorola headsets seem to have a problem with this device. I had trouble getting my H500 to connect and the voice button to work. Once I reset the phone when the headset was on and it wouldn't connect. I tried deleting and re-pairing. It took another reset to get it back. Fortunately I don't use that headset anymore.
jameselee said:
Just wanted to chime in and say I've had the exact same problems with my Tilt and Motorola H700 as various people have described here. I posted about it on the AT&T forum too, and no one there has any working solution either, AFAIK. I too tried the "fix" from HTC, and to no avail.
This is a pretty big disappointment for me; I love my Tilt, but Bluetooth is not new technology, and it's really inconvenient that it works so poorly on this phone.
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The same problem.
But this time with the Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980.
I also put the "fix" from HTC, I gave them back and they change them with another brand new Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980, but the problem exists.
costas2by4AIO said:
The same problem.
But this time with the Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980.
I also put the "fix" from HTC, I gave them back and they change them with another brand new Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980, but the problem exists.
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I just bought the same headset... cant get it work with the TyTN II - Kaiser but pairs without any problem with my TyTN I - Hermes... clearly it is the BT Stack
Way beyond my abilities, but cant the BT stack on Hermes be cooked into a rom for the Kaiser ?
I have a Motorola HT820 and a Motorola S9 both devices are working flawless with the kaiser.
Now i own a motorola S705 too , with this device my kaiser suddenly turn the bluetooth off (
regards

Many asked why Voice Cmmd works well on 8125 but not Kaiser/tilt

There have been several threads where members have commented that Voice Cmmd 1.6 worked very well on 8125 but not on Kaiser/tilt (or on the 8525)- the problem is poor recognition through the phone mic (not through BT) - VC worked great on the 8125 but not on either the 8525 or the 8529/tilt. admittedly some say they do not have the problem but others do (as do I on both the 8529 and 8525)and I can not find any explanation - it seems like the mic is either too sensitive or not enough - I have tried switching the ACG mic to either enabled or disabled with no clear difference in performance of VC recognition
Sooo..
- does anyone have any ideas ?
- are there any ways to adjust the mic other than just enabling/disabling ACG?
THANKS!
I can add that Voice Commander does not support the Kaiser as well.
?Glitch
?Glitch said:
I can add that Voice Commander does not support the Kaiser as well.
?Glitch
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It works fine on my Att Tilt, VC version 1.6, no worries.
Voice command works just fine on my unlocked TyTN II
greg3d said:
Voice command works just fine on my unlocked TyTN II
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Same here - works great.
Bratag said:
Same here - works great.
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Same experience. In fact, mine works much better than it ever did on my Eten M600 and until recently my Dopod 838 Pro over WM6 (aka HTC Hermes/TyTN). Do that note that I use mine with a BT headset with the TyTN II (Kaiser) and I no longer have to install hacks for it to work when the BT headset button is pressed. Everything works after first install.
I replaced my 8125 with a tilt. I had VC1.6 on both. it works the same on both. both work well. people just like to whine
It works great on my AT&T Tilt as long as I use my headset. When I don't it's pretty crappy, by luckily for me only time I want to use voice command is with my headset.
the people that are having problems should turn on AGC. i dont have to as it's usually quiet around me and I speak loud and slow, without mumbling
I'm wondering if those that are having no problems with Voice command are finding the same one issue I have found. The one feature that does not work for me is the caller Id annoucement in your BT headset when a call comes in before you answer it. The VC features list states this is a feature but it has never worked for me. How about you guys?
Voice Command works MUCH better on tilt / kaiser if you turn "ON"
automatic gain control in phone settings.
DLD
I have to agree. I had AGC off and I had trouble with voice command, I read a thread that said to turn it on and now I do not have any problems.
Strangely, in my limited testing, I got better results with it off.
I have tried VC1.6 both with and without hacks and I am unable to get it working from the BT headset button. Worked fine on my Hermes though (with hacks).
I guess I might need to do a hard reset but then i have to contact Tomtom to get a new ID licence from them

Put Microsoft Bluetooth Stack back into Touch Pro2?

I'm using a T-Mobile Touch Pro2 which includes the Broadcom Bluetooth stack and Microsoft Voice Command 1.6.2105. The problem is the Bluetooth software is not compatible with Voice Command and I hate it.
Voice Command is unable to announce TTS events via any bluetooth headset despite having the option for that turned on. Also, activating Voice Command via a bluetooth headset button is either very slow, or unstable (doesn't work sometimes).
Has anyone been able to create a Rhodium ROM that uses the normal Microsoft Bluetooth stack, which has been known to actually work with 3rd party programs?
I had this issue and moved to NRG's Genesis 6.5 rom. everything works fine.
I have not seen a 6.1 rom that works tho.
My TMoUS TP2 works perfect with my Motorola S9's when using the MSVC that came on the stock ROM.
S
adamz said:
I'm using a T-Mobile Touch Pro2 which includes the Broadcom Bluetooth stack and Microsoft Voice Command 1.6.2105. The problem is the Bluetooth software is not compatible with Voice Command and I hate it.
Has anyone been able to create a Rhodium ROM that uses the normal Microsoft Bluetooth stack, which has been known to actually work with 3rd party programs?
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Finally someone who has the same problems as I have.
There are also other annoying side effects of this Broadcom stack:
- As we all know the stereo output is nothing compared to for example an IPhone. Therefore I always used WOW SRS as a sound mixer which closed the gap at least to some degree on my Kaiser.
But now with the TP2 and its Broadcom stack as soon as WOW SRS is installed (I know about the different settings and driver versions to get it working, so this is not the cause) the BT stack is only connecting the hands free profile after this and the stereo profile is simply not working any more.
With the old MS stack this was not a problem.
So I'm back to the old crippled stereo output again
- One could imagine using the integrated HTC sound mixer/booster, but here another even more annoying thing comes into play:
The internal sound mixer (and also the FM radio by the way) are not working with BT at all!!!
Both are only working with a cabled headset and I found no way of getting the FM radio sound to the BT headset or using the sound mixer function on BT.
Together with the non working voice command thing this whole BT integration is so dilettantish that I can hardly believe HTC is selling it as a "professional smartphone".
If someone has any workaround for the above things I would highly appreciate it.
And of course if one of the chefs could implement the old MS BT stack in a cooked ROM this would also be a great thing, but I have not seen one so far.
But even if, I can only hope that some HTC people are reading these comments and that HTC is putting some more professionality into this issue and will soon get it together as a working whole and not as this amateurish implemantation it is currently
asango said:
Finally someone who has the same problems as I have.
There are also other annoying side effects of this Broadcom stack:
- As we all know the stereo output is nothing compared to for example an IPhone. Therefore I always used WOW SRS as a sound mixer which closed the gap at least to some degree on my Kaiser.
But now with the TP2 and its Broadcom stack as soon as WOW SRS is installed (I know about the different settings and driver versions to get it working, so this is not the cause) the BT stack is only connecting the hands free profile after this and the stereo profile is simply not working any more.
With the old MS stack this was not a problem.
So I'm back to the old crippled stereo output again
- One could imagine using the integrated HTC sound mixer/booster, but here another even more annoying thing comes into play:
The internal sound mixer (and also the FM radio by the way) are not working with BT at all!!!
Both are only working with a cabled headset and I found no way of getting the FM radio sound to the BT headset or using the sound mixer function on BT.
Together with the non working voice command thing this whole BT integration is so dilettantish that I can hardly believe HTC is selling it as a "professional smartphone".
If someone has any workaround for the above things I would highly appreciate it.
And of course if one of the chefs could implement the old MS BT stack in a cooked ROM this would also be a great thing, but I have not seen one so far.
But even if, I can only hope that some HTC people are reading these comments and that HTC is putting some more professionality into this issue and will soon get it together as a working whole and not as this amateurish implemantation it is currently
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I to am having bluetooth problems. I have a sprint tp2. on the opposite end of you i like to use my stereo bt with my pioneer bt deck. with the tp1 i had no problems but now i cant end the call from the deck anymore, it lags when picking up the call, and some other minor bugs. the sound quality is still good.
p-slim said:
I to am having bluetooth problems. I have a sprint tp2. on the opposite end of you i like to use my stereo bt with my pioneer bt deck. with the tp1 i had no problems but now i cant end the call from the deck anymore, it lags when picking up the call, and some other minor bugs. the sound quality is still good.
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What Pioneer headunit/Pioneer bluetooth unit are you using?
I have an AVIC-D3 with the Pioneer CD-BTB200 module for bluetooth. I have zero issues making it connect with the CD-BTB200 module. I can make calls, receive calls, play bluetooth stereo, etc. The ONLY issue that I have is that when the phone rings on an incoming call, I only hear the ring through my phone's speaker, not the speakers in my SUV. This was not an issue with the M$ Bluetooth stack, however. Go figure. If I can figure out how to make the phone sounds play through my speakers (yes, I have the send notifications/sounds box checked in the advanced bluetooth properties), everything will work 100%.
I wanted to do this, for my own as well. I think the problem we're facing is... drivers. The phone has a slightly different bt/wifi/radio module, therefore required the broadcom drivers. I'll look into making it work with the MS BT stack though... although I'm not too optimistic.
The worst thing in my opinion is the described fact that the internal FM radio and the equalizer/booster can not be used with any hooked up BT device.
Therefore listening to FM radio with BT headphones is simply not possible.
By the way I think this was also an issue in older models, so I don't think that this is a newly introduced thing with the TP2 and the Broadcom stack.
Does anyone of you guys see a solution for sending the FM radio output to the BT channel?
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Does anyone of you guys see a solution for sending the FM radio output to the BT channel?
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No, because the cable of the wired headset is used as antenna. even if you manage to fool the radio application to start with the wired headset not connected you won't hear anything but noise.
adamz said:
I'm using a T-Mobile Touch Pro2 which includes the Broadcom Bluetooth stack and Microsoft Voice Command 1.6.2105. The problem is the Bluetooth software is not compatible with Voice Command and I hate it.
Voice Command is unable to announce TTS events via any bluetooth headset despite having the option for that turned on. Also, activating Voice Command via a bluetooth headset button is either very slow, or unstable (doesn't work sometimes).
Has anyone been able to create a Rhodium ROM that uses the normal Microsoft Bluetooth stack, which has been known to actually work with 3rd party programs?
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asango said:
Finally someone who has the same problems as I have.
There are also other annoying side effects of this Broadcom stack:
- As we all know the stereo output is nothing compared to for example an IPhone. Therefore I always used WOW SRS as a sound mixer which closed the gap at least to some degree on my Kaiser.
But now with the TP2 and its Broadcom stack as soon as WOW SRS is installed (I know about the different settings and driver versions to get it working, so this is not the cause) the BT stack is only connecting the hands free profile after this and the stereo profile is simply not working any more.
With the old MS stack this was not a problem.
So I'm back to the old crippled stereo output again
- One could imagine using the integrated HTC sound mixer/booster, but here another even more annoying thing comes into play:
The internal sound mixer (and also the FM radio by the way) are not working with BT at all!!!
Both are only working with a cabled headset and I found no way of getting the FM radio sound to the BT headset or using the sound mixer function on BT.
Together with the non working voice command thing this whole BT integration is so dilettantish that I can hardly believe HTC is selling it as a "professional smartphone".
If someone has any workaround for the above things I would highly appreciate it.
And of course if one of the chefs could implement the old MS BT stack in a cooked ROM this would also be a great thing, but I have not seen one so far.
But even if, I can only hope that some HTC people are reading these comments and that HTC is putting some more professionality into this issue and will soon get it together as a working whole and not as this amateurish implemantation it is currently
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p-slim said:
I to am having bluetooth problems. I have a sprint tp2. on the opposite end of you i like to use my stereo bt with my pioneer bt deck. with the tp1 i had no problems but now i cant end the call from the deck anymore, it lags when picking up the call, and some other minor bugs. the sound quality is still good.
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ruinertt said:
What Pioneer headunit/Pioneer bluetooth unit are you using?
I have an AVIC-D3 with the Pioneer CD-BTB200 module for bluetooth. I have zero issues making it connect with the CD-BTB200 module. I can make calls, receive calls, play bluetooth stereo, etc. The ONLY issue that I have is that when the phone rings on an incoming call, I only hear the ring through my phone's speaker, not the speakers in my SUV. This was not an issue with the M$ Bluetooth stack, however. Go figure. If I can figure out how to make the phone sounds play through my speakers (yes, I have the send notifications/sounds box checked in the advanced bluetooth properties), everything will work 100%.
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I am using a JVC deck and it connects great. Sound quality is a bit better than from my Wing; my only problem is that when I disconnect from the call it takes my TP2 2-3 minutes to show that the call is actually ended, it runs slower than molases like I have 50 programs running and all trying to access the internet and downloading large files. After the 2-3 minutes the phone has returned to normal like nothing was wrong. I am thinking of flashing to one of the good looking 6.5 roms that our wonderful chefs have cooked up for us, but I cant decide which one to try first!
asango said:
The worst thing in my opinion is the described fact that the internal FM radio and the equalizer/booster can not be used with any hooked up BT device.
Therefore listening to FM radio with BT headphones is simply not possible.
By the way I think this was also an issue in older models, so I don't think that this is a newly introduced thing with the TP2 and the Broadcom stack.
Does anyone of you guys see a solution for sending the FM radio output to the BT channel?
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In the stock tmobile tp2 there is a app in the windows folder labeled btfm.exe I started it up but I I was only able to get about 15 seconds of audio play using my h500 motorola headset....no bt headphones to test out.
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No, because the cable of the wired headset is used as antenna. even if you manage to fool the radio application to start with the wired headset not connected you won't hear anything but noise.
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The point is that I want to be able to use the wireless BT headset with all the audio sources on the device. This would only be logical.
Having to use the wired headset as antenna is of course the other annoying thing in the hardware design of this device (since I think HTC should also have been able to get FM reception with a built in antenna or even the phone frame. Don't know why they have not done this in order to at least allow using the radio in situations where one has got no headset at hand, especially with the TP2, which has got no 3.5mm jack)
But apart from this issue still the only consequent thing would be to be able to use all audio sources with the attached wireless headset. That's what is it for...
pimppoet said:
In the stock tmobile tp2 there is a app in the windows folder labeled btfm.exe I started it up but I I was only able to get about 15 seconds of audio play using my h500 motorola headset....no bt headphones to test out.
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Yes, this first seemed to be an option to me also, but on my TP2 if I open the btfm.exe I get absolutely no sound, no matter which speaker setting in the software. Not on the wired headphone, not on the internal speaker and also not on the BT headset, even though it is successfully attached with the stereo profile.
Have tried this with several ROMs, always the same problem: No output at all.
And on some it even won't start (error message Unable to extract skin template)
But since HTC has included this exe in the ROM but has not put a link in the start menu I think they know about this lack of functionality, but have not solved it.
Does anyone know more about btfm.exe and a way to get it working?
Hi Guys,
That is my first real complaint I have about the Touch Pro2 ! All is fine but the Widcomm stck it a bummer, my JetwareMobile Extension is now rendered useless, no more callername in my Bluetooth headset and lost some funtionality compared to befor too, but I have to be fair I gained some too, but if I need thoose that is a different topic.
Chris
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Please need help to activate CSVD over BT in TP2
gompf said:
Hi Guys,
That is my first real complaint I have about the Touch Pro2 ! All is fine but the Widcomm stck it a bummer, my JetwareMobile Extension is now rendered useless, no more callername in my Bluetooth headset and lost some funtionality compared to befor too, but I have to be fair I gained some too, but if I need thoose that is a different topic.
Chris
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I feel your pain. I miss having JetwareMobile to help interface with my car's head unit.
adamz said:
I'm using a T-Mobile Touch Pro2 which includes the Broadcom Bluetooth stack and Microsoft Voice Command 1.6.2105. The problem is the Bluetooth software is not compatible with Voice Command and I hate it.
Voice Command is unable to announce TTS events via any bluetooth headset despite having the option for that turned on. Also, activating Voice Command via a bluetooth headset button is either very slow, or unstable (doesn't work sometimes).
Has anyone been able to create a Rhodium ROM that uses the normal Microsoft Bluetooth stack, which has been known to actually work with 3rd party programs?
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Check out this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562161
it appears to do what you want.
Yes, and also the latest of NRGZ28's ROMs does have the BT triggered VC:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
Seems like realls HTC has managed to get back this functionality into the latest BT stack version, even though there seem to be some bugs still in conjunction with the current V 1.6.21040 as I wrote here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4578993&postcount=30
Hi everyone, I have a similar question related to the Microsoft bluetooth stack. I have an ATT Tilt2 (stock ROM still) and have downloaded the Office 2010 beta programs from the Marketplace. A new feature (at least I think it is new) is the Presentation Companion for PowerPoint which allows you to control a PowerPoint presentation using your phone.
When I try to set up the Presentation Companion, however, it gives me a message about not being able to find any bluetooth devices. The instructions from Microsoft say that you must have the Microsoft bluetooth stack installed on the phone and the computer you want to control to get this functionality. I never get to the point of connecting to my computer so I figure it must be the phone.
Has anyone else had similar issues or tried the Presentation Companion? I tried applying the .CAB update listed earlier in this thread but it did not help.
On a side note, with the stock bluetooth stack I have had no issues connecting to my Pioneer headunit in my car for hands-free and A2DP stereo streaming. I have not tried to use the controls from my radio to control the playback, so I'n not sure if that works. The headunit I'm using is the DEH-710BT.
Thanks!
monkeyboy0076 said:
On a side note, with the stock bluetooth stack I have had no issues connecting to my Pioneer headunit in my car for hands-free and A2DP stereo streaming. I have not tried to use the controls from my radio to control the playback, so I'n not sure if that works. The headunit I'm using is the DEH-710BT.
Thanks!
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I have a Pioneer AVIC-D3 and have no issues with playback (or the controls) using the BT stack in the Rhodium. This, of course, was tested with Windows Media Player. I can do forward, reverse, pause, stop, play, etc.

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