Database Develop

GPS Tuner: No compass?

I have installed GPS Tuner 5.4f (2 week trial) on the Diamond and it works with built-in GPS, so far.
But the Diamond allways shows focused to north. On compass screen I can move and rotate the Diamond on all directions without any reaction.
So ist there a problem with GPS Tuner or can't the Diamond - a GPS handy - handle the compass?
Thx & regards,
Purzel

The compass is not moving because static navigation is enabled, so unless your moving at least 3mph the compass will not move. Same with any GPS navigation software.
At the moment nobody knows how to turn off static navigation, it's a really stupid feature.
Try driving or running then the compass will move

Radeon123 said:
Tso unless your moving at least 3mph the compass will not move.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are kidding me, right? *lol*
So I have to run around the trees in the wood next weekend to say my family where to go at next...
Regards,
Purzel

Radeon123 said:
The compass is not moving because static navigation is enabled, so unless your moving at least 3mph the compass will not move. Same with any GPS navigation software.
At the moment nobody knows how to turn off static navigation, it's a really stupid feature.
Try driving or running then the compass will move
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So there actually is a digital compass inside?
Edit: sorry, didn't know what static navigation means. Now I do. Unfortunate, because I really wished there was a digital compass inside .

How does the phone know which way it is pointing? You have to move so it can figure it out. GPS systems that point north when static have a built in electronic compass. These phones don't. You can see this when people set of following a gps arrow and they almost walk in a circle before they head off in the right direction.
By the way, Memory Map is an awsome bit of sofware for navigating using the phone. I use it as a back up to my paper map and compass whilst out and about.

How did you get the GPS to work, tried the auto search for the GPS device and GPS Tuner says that he can´t find any device. Manually set to COM4 no luck either.

You'll find that if you walk about five or so metres it will begin to register a speed and accurate heading... does in all my GPS apps. I use Pathaway and Fugawi for on foot navigation and it's a great alternative to paper map and compass.
Without an actual magnetic compass on board, there is no such thing as a GPS receiver capable of showing accurate heading without meaningful movement. The static navigation feature is really very useful as it stops the thing dancing all over the place when you're stood still... below this movement threshold, the small scale erratic nature of the outputs at or near rest are pretty much unusable.

WAZE Free Nav Software

Has anyone else checked out Waze.com free open-source navigation and mapping software? Looks really cool.
Jamie

I started playing around with this software yesterday, I must say that its pretty brilliant. Hopefully it catches on with enough people and it gets popular.

i love this new app i was amaze to hear turn by turn and speed reading very good app just wish the police option was near me and not 900 miles away

Oh! There's more to this than just playing Pac Man with my car?

looks pretty cool, I'm gonna try it out!

It is THE killer app for all paid navigation software.
IF! the provider can stay alive long enough it will catch up globally.
Then within 5 years it will be the ONLY navigation app left.
The disadvantage is how to reach as much people possible and convince them to install. Then get in the car every day and turn it on and start driving.

I DL'd it and played with it this weekend. It does have huge upside, however, it will not be a threat to navigation software. They even say that Waze is about commuting and traveling around areas you normally travel. The software helps you inteligently see what might be affecting your commute and to route you to your location using real time traffic data.
A real world example, regular navigation software iGo, Garmin, etc, will help you find a grocery store. Where Waze will get you into the fastest checkout line, based on the speed of the customers checking out, while you were still shopping for milk. I know how to get to my work, I also know that there are several alternate routes, waze is supposed to be able to tell you which one would be faster on any given day based on real time info from other drivers.
I live in the Cleveland, OH area. We get Lake Effect snow storms. These snow storms can be very small, but very intesnse. It is not uncommon for a stretch of highway a mile long to be in near blizzard conditions, and it is sunny and clear all around. You have no idea that you are going to run into this storm until you are in it. Waze could detect the sudden drop in speed, and advise others that there is an issue, thus allowing us to pick a different route.
If you hadn't noticed I am excited by the potential. They have some bugs,the software is o.k., but it needs more developing. I was driving over the weekend and was notified of an accident 300+ miles away. However those issues are being worked on.

It has real promise
boufa said:
I DL'd it and played with it this weekend. It does have huge upside, however, it will not be a threat to navigation software. They even say that Waze is about commuting and traveling around areas you normally travel. The software helps you inteligently see what might be affecting your commute and to route you to your location using real time traffic data.
A real world example, regular navigation software iGo, Garmin, etc, will help you find a grocery store. Where Waze will get you into the fastest checkout line, based on the speed of the customers checking out, while you were still shopping for milk. I know how to get to my work, I also know that there are several alternate routes, waze is supposed to be able to tell you which one would be faster on any given day based on real time info from other drivers.
I live in the Cleveland, OH area. We get Lake Effect snow storms. These snow storms can be very small, but very intesnse. It is not uncommon for a stretch of highway a mile long to be in near blizzard conditions, and it is sunny and clear all around. You have no idea that you are going to run into this storm until you are in it. Waze could detect the sudden drop in speed, and advise others that there is an issue, thus allowing us to pick a different route.
If you hadn't noticed I am excited by the potential. They have some bugs,the software is o.k., but it needs more developing. I was driving over the weekend and was notified of an accident 300+ miles away. However those issues are being worked on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We are both excited at the potential of this concept, but I think it could easily replace TomTom or Igo, IF Waze becomes widely and consistently used. It sounds like you think Waze is less useful when navigating to somewhere you haven't been before, but as long as other people on that route are also contributing data, Waze will still be more useful than even paid traffic subscriptions, because it is real time data from the road, not from observers. We all will need to use it all the time for it to live up to its promise.

I agree that more people need to use it. I was excited on a trip over the weekend to pass by someone going the other way... their icon showed up on my phone. Lots of cars around, no way to tell which one it was exactly, but kinda cool none the less.
The reason I think it is more of a commuter app than a navigation app it 2 things, 1) that is what it says on their FAQ page, and 2) I drove from Mentor, OH to Canton, OH a trip of about 90 miles. I knew close enough to where I was going, that I did not need navigation software, so I turned on waze and let it data collect... (It is important to let it collect data whenever possible, especially until the user base gets bigger)... the onscreen map showed only the map for the last "tile" i was in, and only showed a blank white screen for the space in front of me. On the way home it showed all of the map for the areas I was in on the way down. Now, I did NOT have it giving me directions, so that may have been the issue.
It was wet and slick, and we did see and accident on the other side of the road, a car slid off a curve on an exit ramp. I was impressed that it only took 3 or 4 presses of the screen to report it!

Cool
Hi there fellow Buckeye! I'm originally from Hubbard, a speck on the map north of Y-town.
I still believe that if we can get a large and diverse enough of a user base, we won't need to pay TomTom or Igo for maps or traffic data anymore.
BTW, have you had any trouble getting your GPS signal lately? I haven't been able to get a signal at all since yesterday. Prior to that it was nearly instant. I'd normally blame my device, but I know 2 others here in ATL who were having the same issue.

Can't say that I use the GPS that often to notice. As for Waze, I agree, there are a couple of people who drive around in my area that use it, it pops up. The software needs some significant development yet... but I am an eager early adopter. The key would be to get the truckers to use it... they are everywhere.

It's working again
Not sure what happened. It was wierd becuase one of the things I love about this program is how fast I get a lock. It is almost instant. With Igo sometimes it takes minutes to get a fix.
Thats a great idea about the truckers, btw

[Q] My GPS Experience

I have been hearing of numerous complaints about the GPS of the Galaxy S and was wondering if mine had an issue.
Having only GPS'd my location at a standstill with excellent (within 10 metre) results, I decided to use Google Navigation on a 15 kilometre trip from where I was to my home.
I can honestly say my GPS had pinpoint accuracy for the entire trip, not losing signal once. And when I mean pinpoint accuracy, I mean it felt like a satellite was right on top of me the entire way home.
Apart from Google Navigation using a weird route to get home (which I followed, only forcing the unit to reroute once), and speaking the street names like it didn't understand grammer, I'd say it was almost as perfect as my tried and true Garmin (which uses better routes).
So this isn't a gloating post, but I'm trying to understand what issues all of you have with the GPS, as I don't seem to be experiencing any.
P.S. I'm still on Bell's official 2.1 firmware (latest one, I believe its JH2).
Thanks

Go for a walk. Stop for a coffee somewhere. Walk again. Stop to enjoy something beautiful. Record your experience with My Tracks. Share you track. Then we can discuss GPS quality.
I hope it all works excellent for you.
Regards!
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

Nice story but why post it as a [Q] and in development forum

NetCopAD said:
Go for a walk. Stop for a coffee somewhere. Walk again. Stop to enjoy something beautiful. Record your experience with My Tracks. Share you track. Then we can discuss GPS quality.
I hope it all works excellent for you.
Regards!
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ditto. 10 char.

NetCopAD said:
Go for a walk. Stop for a coffee somewhere. Walk again. Stop to enjoy something beautiful. Record your experience with My Tracks. Share you track. Then we can discuss GPS quality.
I hope it all works excellent for you.
Regards!
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, I never really use my GPS that way, but for experimental purposes I will. Downloading the program now (not factory software with Bell I guess). Is there a certain distance I should be walking? And what should I notice to report back? That my tracks were the exact route I took?
Having said that, if there is a problem, could it not be a specific problem with the way MyTracks itself cooperates with the GPS? I mean I find it strange the GPS works flawlessly with Navigation (stops and lights, stop signs etc) but not with My Tracks? I dunno.
gllu said:
Nice story but why post it as a [Q] and in development forum
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're right.. didn't realize I posted it here until after I posted it. I leave the moderating for moderators, but my apologies just the same. Moderators, please move this to an area which is more suitable to avoid posts like these.

greeced said:
Ok, I never really use my GPS that way, but for experimental purposes I will. Downloading the program now (not factory software with Bell I guess). Is there a certain distance I should be walking? And what should I notice to report back? That my tracks were the exact route I took?
Having said that, if there is a problem, could it not be a specific problem with the way MyTracks itself cooperates with the GPS? I mean I find it strange the GPS works flawlessly with Navigation (stops and lights, stop signs etc) but not with My Tracks? I dunno.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not just My Tracks, you can try any other similar apps. That's just the most popular and widely used one.
The thing with Navigation is, it KNOWS you're supposed to be travelling on the road - so even if the actual GPS data suggests that you're 5 meters off the road, the navigation software "corrects" it and puts you back on the road.
Use My Tracks to record a small walk. Make a couple of stops. It ALWAYS puts me 15 feet off the road. And when standing still, it keeps moving around restlessly. Ugh

It's just that navigation software generally has the ability to use road information to supplement the raw GPS data and thus yields seemingly better results. It snaps to roads, approximates expected position etc.
My Tracks and other similar software just records your track without any awareness of roads so the resulting info (track) is pretty close to the raw GPS performance.
Standing still is when the GPS problem is most evident. Your reported position just jumps around, sometimes sending you a hundred meters away or more.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

Ok,
Went for a short walk using my tracks... Around a rather large block and through a path in a park, where I sat down on a park bench for 5 minutes, got up, and continued the trail back to the main road, then back to my house.
I noticed when I started off, it showed me on the other side of the street, but quickly corrected itself as soon as I started walking to the right side of the street.
I then stopped at a communal mail box, I noticed the gps had 'bounced' to the other side of the street but as soon as I started walking again, it corrected itself.
The other side of the street on those two occasions was 15-20 feet away (Its a residential side-street), which to me has the GPS as being extremely accurate. Even Google's disclaimer on "My Tracks" states:
Under optimal conditions the location can be +/- 20 feet (6 meters).
And thats exactly what it was with mine.
After the communal mail box, it was extremely accurate to less than 2 metres the rest of the trip/way home. The circle around the orange arrow was extremely small most of the way, only getting larger when I entered my house.

NetCopAD said:
It's just that navigation software generally has the ability to use road information to supplement the raw GPS data and thus yields seemingly better results. It snaps to roads, approximates expected position etc.
My Tracks and other similar software just records your track without any awareness of roads so the resulting info (track) is pretty close to the raw GPS performance.
Standing still is when the GPS problem is most evident. Your reported position just jumps around, sometimes sending you a hundred meters away or more.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
See, standing still with me is absolutely bang on within 10 metres. If you're talking about when you first fire up the GPS, then I'd agree with you, but the hundreds of metres away is not your GPS position. Its where your cell provider is reporting you to be, either by the tower, or triangulation.
The GPS then using that information, as per my guess, to hone on where you are. and it actually finds me within 5 to 10 seconds.

Oh and as for navigation, I'd have to disagree with your assertion about the GPS and the knowing your on a road statement. I live in an area where new roads are built all the time, and those roads are not on any mapping system including garmins, and the GPS will follow you anyway, just go into a constant cycle of
"Recalculating" or "Turn Around" or "Make a U-Turn". (At least that's what my garmin does when I test it), but it still follows me up to and including the road that is actually on the GPS, and I'm sure this GPS will do the same.
Either way, I'm happy that I don't have any issues with the GPS of this Galaxy S. Seems to work quite well.

same here, once i intentionally drove into this field of newly paved road, with no houses foundation even build on them, it was so funny to see myself on google map going into what seems like an empty space
but with the tracking enable, it was able to draw good lines of where i drove over for the missing streets on the map
greeced said:
Oh and as for navigation, I'd have to disagree with your assertion about the GPS and the knowing your on a road statement. I live in an area where new roads are built all the time, and those roads are not on any mapping system including garmins, and the GPS will follow you anyway, just go into a constant cycle of
"Recalculating" or "Turn Around" or "Make a U-Turn". (At least that's what my garmin does when I test it), but it still follows me up to and including the road that is actually on the GPS, and I'm sure this GPS will do the same.
Either way, I'm happy that I don't have any issues with the GPS of this Galaxy S. Seems to work quite well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

[Q] GPS Issue

Anyone else have issues with their GPS?
Mine seems to get confused about where I am even though I have high accuracy enabled for location.
If I just go by the voice prompts it would get me lost.
It tells me to keep going on a street I've already turned off of.
The map seems right but is as if the gps needs to be calibrated or something.

Will Rickards said:
Anyone else have issues with their GPS?
Mine seems to get confused about where I am even though I have high accuracy enabled for location.
If I just go by the voice prompts it would get me lost.
It tells me to keep going on a street I've already turned off of.
The map seems right but is as if the gps needs to be calibrated or something.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mine did this for like 5 minutes and then locked on and was perfect every time since.

Will Rickards said:
Anyone else have issues with their GPS?
Mine seems to get confused about where I am even though I have high accuracy enabled for location.
If I just go by the voice prompts it would get me lost.
It tells me to keep going on a street I've already turned off of.
The map seems right but is as if the gps needs to be calibrated or something.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mine is finnicky as well for GPS games like Ingress. It's a noticeable lock on lag difference compared to the HTC One M8 which was pretty much spot on every time without much drift. I hope it'll get patched in the future :]

Sometimes the solid circle inside my GPS icon flashes rapidly and other times the whole icon appears and disappears several times a second. Any idea what's going on with that?

When using Waze to navigate, I often lose GPS lock if the phone is resting on my leg. Returns when I lift the phone.

I downloaded GPS status and did the compass calibration thing.
We'll see if that makes any difference next time I use it.

Compass defect or poor calibration fixed by calibration?

For some reason my compass seems to be poorly calibrated and when I use Google Maps the navigation works, but I sometime lose direction. In order to fix I need to rotate my phone in all different ways. But after a reboot the compass goes back to being off. Does anyone else have this issue? Is this a defect or software?

I found exactly the same issue yesterday trying to navigate around London. Google maps has been dodgy lately on my note 3, xperia z and my girlfriends HTC one s so I put it down to a bug, I might try another navigation app to see if it's the phone

BrandonPrice31 said:
For some reason my compass seems to be poorly calibrated and when I use Google Maps the navigation works, but I sometime lose direction. In order to fix I need to rotate my phone in all different ways. But after a reboot the compass goes back to being off. Does anyone else have this issue? Is this a defect or software?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you using a case? Particularly one with metal in it such as an s-view case. If so, you have to recalibrate the compass after every reboot.

jonstatt said:
Are you using a case? Particularly one with metal in it such as an s-view case. If so, you have to recalibrate the compass after every reboot.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this is not dependant on cases etc., same here as on note3, ... : with each reboot the calibration resets. maybe this is how samsung wants it to be!

jonstatt said:
Are you using a case? Particularly one with metal in it such as an s-view case. If so, you have to recalibrate the compass after every reboot.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm using the s view case hmmm

TML1504 said:
this is not dependant on cases etc., same here as on note3, ... : with each reboot the calibration resets. maybe this is how samsung wants it to be!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you have same issue?

This has been an ongoing issue with Samsung Phones. This is my 3rd and and none of them have worked correctly in Maps, without navigating.
When you are just driving around (not navigating) you are using the compass....
When you are navigating, Maps is using the GPS and comparing your last point to your current point to determine your direction of travel. This causes navigating to work right and non-navigating to be wrong.
I have not found a consistent solution. Also on Google Skymap, with the AR type view, it is nearly useless for this same reason. It can't seem to sense your proper orientation due to the compass issue. (though I admit to not trying skymap on the Note 4)
Its not so much a bug, as it is Samsung and Google doing things differently.

boufa said:
This has been an ongoing issue with Samsung Phones. This is my 3rd and and none of them have worked correctly in Maps, without navigating.
When you are just driving around (not navigating) you are using the compass....
When you are navigating, Maps is using the GPS and comparing your last point to your current point to determine your direction of travel. This causes navigating to work right and non-navigating to be wrong.
I have not found a consistent solution. Also on Google Skymap, with the AR type view, it is nearly useless for this same reason. It can't seem to sense your proper orientation due to the compass issue. (though I admit to not trying skymap on the Note 4)
Its not so much a bug, as it is Samsung and Google doing things differently.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So you have this issue with the Note 4 when using Google Maps while driving? Moving my note in all directions calibrated it but then reboot forgets.

BrandonPrice31 said:
So you have this issue with the Note 4 when using Google Maps while driving? Moving my note in all directions calibrated it but then reboot forgets.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I dont mess with the recalibration process. Its annoying and i hate it, but its not so bad that i recalibrate. I also dont reboot very often, but in the past, the recalibration doesnt stick for long even when not rebooting.
I love google maps for navigating, but it sucks for driving around. The biggest issue is that the screen turns off on its own when not navigating. Waze is great for driving around, it doesnt shut off the screen, and gives you all the traffic info you need. It also routes the voice through the phone regardless of if you are connected to the car by bluetooth. The biggest complaint with waze is that it isnt multi window compatible. On my rooted note 2 i used waze on the left of the screen for traffic issues, and maps on the right side of the screen for navigation.