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A good Stereo Bluetooth headset

Hi all,
I wonder if anyone can recommend a good Bluetooth Stereo headset (max £50 although anything near the £30 mark would be a bonus).
I would prefer them to be discreet i.e. in ear as opposed to over the ears, and would need the ability to pause, skip etc. and if possible (but not essential) the ability to change the headphones.
Thanks in advance,
Fuzzmo.

fuzzmo said:
Hi all,
I wonder if anyone can recommend a good Bluetooth Stereo headset (max £50 although anything near the £30 mark would be a bonus).
I would prefer them to be discreet i.e. in ear as opposed to over the ears, and would need the ability to pause, skip etc. and if possible (but not essential) the ability to change the headphones.
Thanks in advance,
Fuzzmo.
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Sony Ds-205. Best one I tried so far.

Motorla S9s are great and you can easily find them in that price range; if you can pitch in a bit more, the S9HDs are also nice (but more expensive).

kareem9nba said:
Motorla S9s are great and you can easily find them in that price range; if you can pitch in a bit more, the S9HDs are also nice (but more expensive).
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Yup - thought about those but again would prefer them to be discreet i.e. traditional in-ears - but thanks for the suggestion...
jackleung said:
Sony Ds-205. Best one I tried so far.
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Ok cool - does it allow you to pause, scan, and skip tracks?
I also heard about the Jabra BT3030 - has anyone tried these with the X1?

i prefer the SONY-Ericsson HBH-BS220.....
changable Headphones, good Battery life (8h for A2DP/more than 10h of talk time), battery display, excellent sound quality and a very good noise reduction and automatic volume management (gets louder if you are in a noisy area)..... but i use it with a pair of Audeo PFE headphones from Phonak (I work there ^^)

I have a Nextlink/Invisio G5 headset. I had this headset for about 2 years now. Good headset, small discreet and because I wear glasses, the in ear fit works best for me. Earloops sux for us glasses wearers! LOL For the pricetag of around 50 bux you cant go wrong. The only negative is that in high winds, the headset really doesn't work all to well, but for the price and style it works for me who uses the headset day to day in the car with the windows up.
I am looking into the Jawbone Prime headsets in the next few weeks. They are a bit pricy but being Jawbone, I may opt for it.

the_black_dragon said:
i prefer the SONY-Ericsson HBH-BS220.....
changable Headphones, good Battery life (8h for A2DP/more than 10h of talk time), battery display, excellent sound quality and a very good noise reduction and automatic volume management (gets louder if you are in a noisy area)..... but i use it with a pair of Audeo PFE headphones from Phonak (I work there ^^)
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They are very good except you can't skip/go back on tracks which is what I would like...
kpjimmy said:
I have a Nextlink/Invisio G5 headset. I had this headset for about 2 years now. Good headset, small discreet and because I wear glasses, the in ear fit works best for me. Earloops sux for us glasses wearers! LOL For the pricetag of around 50 bux you cant go wrong. The only negative is that in high winds, the headset really doesn't work all to well, but for the price and style it works for me who uses the headset day to day in the car with the windows up.
I am looking into the Jawbone Prime headsets in the next few weeks. They are a bit pricy but being Jawbone, I may opt for it.
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I'll investigate these a little further. Am tempted by the Jabra BT3030 or the DS-205 that Jack mentioned. Thanks to all who replied (although if there are more suggestions then feel free to list them).

fuzzmo said:
They are very good except you can't skip/go back on tracks which is what I would like...
I'll investigate these a little further. Am tempted by the Jabra BT3030 or the DS-205 that Jack mentioned. Thanks to all who replied (although if there are more suggestions then feel free to list them).
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Trust me. I tried many BT stereo headsets (Sony: DS-220,205,970,980, Clip D Radio, Jabra (forget what model) ..etc) and ONLY Sony's gives the best sound quality (sound quality among Sony's are similar). DS 220 and DS 205 are basically the same with pause, scan, and skip tracks support on 205 only. Jabra BT3030 is not 3.5mm jack which will give you headache in finding a good headphone.
And one added benefit on Sony's BT headset is you can charge while using it. (Other brands will stupidly turn off if you try to charge the battery).
DS-205 + EX500SL match your X1 nicely

jackleung said:
Trust me. I tried many BT stereo headsets (Sony: DS-220,205,970,980, Clip D Radio, Jabra (forget what model) ..etc) and ONLY Sony's gives the best sound quality (sound quality among Sony's are similar). DS 220 and DS 205 are basically the same with pause, scan, and skip tracks support on 205 only. Jabra BT3030 is not 3.5mm jack which will give you headache in finding a good headphone.
And one added benefit on Sony's BT headset is you can charge while using it. (Other brands will stupidly turn off if you try to charge the battery).
DS-205 + EX500SL match your X1 nicely
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None of the headsets you listed have anything on this:
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite/productdetail.asp?transid=502413
The DS980 is not bad...but still it doesn't sound great. It's probably some sort of limitation with the bluetooth transfer rate, as it still sounds only decent after you replace the earbuds with some higher quality ones.
Also the Sony ones have NimH batteries as far as I remember and their battery life is pretty mediocre.
Of course if you're not after great sound quality...any of the ones above will do

jackleung said:
Trust me. I tried many BT stereo headsets (Sony: DS-220,205,970,980, Clip D Radio, Jabra (forget what model) ..etc) and ONLY Sony's gives the best sound quality (sound quality among Sony's are similar). DS 220 and DS 205 are basically the same with pause, scan, and skip tracks support on 205 only. Jabra BT3030 is not 3.5mm jack which will give you headache in finding a good headphone.
And one added benefit on Sony's BT headset is you can charge while using it. (Other brands will stupidly turn off if you try to charge the battery).
DS-205 + EX500SL match your X1 nicely
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Hehe I think you may well have persuaded me on the 205 (and it's £50 online) - out with the Credit Card - and thanks for the heads up on the Jabra, that is one thing a lot of people don't mention. Gonna pair these with my Denon AH-C700s (a bit old but burned in and give me a wonderful deep Bass - until I can save up for the Sennheiser IE8's!)
megacrazy said:
None of the headsets you listed have anything on this:
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite/productdetail.asp?transid=502413
The DS980 is not bad...but still it doesn't sound great. It's probably some sort of limitation with the bluetooth transfer rate, as it still sounds only decent after you replace the earbuds with some higher quality ones.
Also the Sony ones have NimH batteries as far as I remember and their battery life is pretty mediocre.
Of course if you're not after great sound quality...any of the ones above will do
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I am after the best sound quality my £50 budget would allow. If money wasn't and issue they'd be right up there as I am sure they'd sound great but they're more than a little out of my price range
EDIT: Hmmm £87 online - should I???? Arrrgggghhh!!!! More thinking to do.....

i use motorola s9 while running on the treadmill, works out nicely because it's light and doesn't squeeze your head

megacrazy said:
None of the headsets you listed have anything on this:
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite/productdetail.asp?transid=502413
The DS980 is not bad...but still it doesn't sound great. It's probably some sort of limitation with the bluetooth transfer rate, as it still sounds only decent after you replace the earbuds with some higher quality ones.
Also the Sony ones have NimH batteries as far as I remember and their battery life is pretty mediocre.
Of course if you're not after great sound quality...any of the ones above will do
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The ear buds are not replacable on the DS980 without major surgery, or did you just mean the rubber bits? DS980 does not have a 3.5mm jack. I have HBH-DS220 and are happy with it, I use it with some etymotic ER6i which are good too, as an added bonus they can be plugged directly into the x1 if you have forgotten to charge up the DS220 too, something else you cant do if your headphones are permantly attached to the BT headset.

scote said:
The ear buds are not replacable on the DS980 without major surgery, or did you just mean the rubber bits? DS980 does not have a 3.5mm jack. I have HBH-DS220 and are happy with it, I use it with some etymotic ER6i which are good too, as an added bonus they can be plugged directly into the x1 if you have forgotten to charge up the DS220 too, something else you cant do if your headphones are permantly attached to the BT headset.
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Yeah I was talking about major surgery
Actually the ear buds seem to be pretty good because once wired, they produce excellent sound. Hence the conclusion that it's something with the bluetooth module that's limiting. It seems like it's limited to medium quality transfer rate or something.
Either way, I used the DS-980 for a year and had no issues with it. In terms of sound quality though, the one I posted simply beats them. Again, if excellent sound quality is not an issue, go with any of the ones scote suggested.

Need help
I have the choice between two headsets:
1. DS 980
2. DS 205
what is important to me, is compatibility with X1 and battery life

Hello people from the planet earth=P just joking! Try the Jabra BT3030 Bluetooth Stereo Headset! I have it and i LOVE it!

[Q] Nexus S Dock

The only dock I could find on internet was this and it's available for preorder and looks great IMO. Anyone ordered from this company before?
http://www.4u-mobi.com/onlineshop/index.php

Idk those prices plus shipping is rape-age
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dudeimgeorge said:
Idk those prices plus shipping is rape-age
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Are you looking at the same website? They do worldwide free shipping so there is no 'plus shipping'. Also 27$ or 17£ for a desktop cradle is very reasonable.

Yeah, $31 for the one with a second battery charger, with free shipping is still almost half what I paid for a Nexus One dock from Google (though the N1 dock had more features (bluetooth speakers)).

With the huge tacky logo on the front of it, it looks like a $5 item....

at least it's something, doesn't look like an OEM dock is coming out at all

Count me in for this.

I wonder how long before this becomes actually available for shipment. I'm okay with the price, just not with the waiting.

I was told by the seller that the dock will be shipping in the middle of march this year.

It looks awesome I just wish it had headset throughput.
Ideally, I'd like to use this on my nightstand and I usually listen to TuneIn Radio when I go to bed. This will block that. Bummer.

kc311man said:
It looks awesome I just wish it had headset throughput.
Ideally, I'd like to use this on my nightstand and I usually listen to TuneIn Radio when I go to bed. This will block that. Bummer.
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I always stream it over bluetooth.. It's a lot easier

RemoteSojourner said:
I always stream it over bluetooth.. It's a lot easier
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I have mixed feelings about listening to music over Bluetooth. On one hand, as a person who finds a lot of wireless accessories pretty stupid, headphones are one thing I definitely think can benefit from going cordless. On the other, sound quality over Bluetooth just isn't as good as in wired headphones, even to a decidedly non-audiophile such as myself. Also, I find the range of Bluetooth doesn't really allow for as much freedom of movement as I would wish in some cases, and every stereo headset I've tried is extremely sensitive to motion (such as when running with your phone in your pocket) and/or obstruction (such as turning your head to look at something in such a way as to place your body mass between the phone and the headset receiver). In either case, the playback stutters quite a bit.
My feeling is that Bluetooth technology isn't quite where it needs to be for music playback yet. Unless you're in a situation where you really need/want them, I think most people are still better off with wired headphones. Give it a year or two for quality to go up and prices to go down and it might be a different story.

zorak950 said:
I have mixed feelings about listening to music over Bluetooth. On one hand, as a person who finds a lot of wireless accessories pretty stupid, headphones are one thing I definitely think can benefit from going cordless. On the other, sound quality over Bluetooth just isn't as good as in wired headphones, even to a decidedly non-audiophile such as myself. Also, I find the range of Bluetooth doesn't really allow for as much freedom of movement as I would wish in some cases, and every stereo headset I've tried is extremely sensitive to motion (such as when running with your phone in your pocket) and/or obstruction (such as turning your head to look at something in such a way as to place your body mass between the phone and the headset receiver). In either case, the playback stutters quite a bit.
My feeling is that Bluetooth technology isn't quite where it needs to be for music playback yet. Unless you're in a situation where you really need/want them, I think most people are still better off with wired headphones. Give it a year or two for quality to go up and prices to go down and it might be a different story.
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I use http://the-gadgeteer.com/2007/07/12/altec_lansing_t515_wireless_speaker_headset_system/ (just the headset part.. speaker is crap) with a sennheiser earphone and the audio quality is excellent and the range is not bad either. I get about 10 meters without much trouble.

RemoteSojourner said:
I use http://the-gadgeteer.com/2007/07/12/altec_lansing_t515_wireless_speaker_headset_system/ (just the headset part.. speaker is crap) with a sennheiser earphone and the audio quality is excellent and the range is not bad either. I get about 10 meters without much trouble.
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Well, 10 meters is the range of bluetooth.
I use a Jabra BT3030. Good thing about it is I can plug in any earphone I want and if I prefer to use a larger speaker, I can just plug that too.

http://store.androidcentral.com/sei...m=shopping_engine&utm_campaign=GoogleProducts
The Innodock Jr for the Desire/Nexus One works perfectly for the Nexus S and it leaves a lot of room for you to add a case and still be able to use the dock.

navalynt said:
http://store.androidcentral.com/sei...m=shopping_engine&utm_campaign=GoogleProducts
The Innodock Jr for the Desire/Nexus One works perfectly for the Nexus S and it leaves a lot of room for you to add a case and still be able to use the dock.
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Oh, nice. Do you have a picture of the Nexus S in the dock? By the way, is the dock heavy? I worry about the dock tipping over. Thanks.

RemoteSojourner said:
I use http://the-gadgeteer.com/2007/07/12/altec_lansing_t515_wireless_speaker_headset_system/ (just the headset part.. speaker is crap) with a sennheiser earphone and the audio quality is excellent and the range is not bad either. I get about 10 meters without much trouble.
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I'm happy for you, but not everyone wants to pay $200+ for headphones.

zorak950 said:
I have mixed feelings about listening to music over Bluetooth. On one hand, as a person who finds a lot of wireless accessories pretty stupid, headphones are one thing I definitely think can benefit from going cordless. On the other, sound quality over Bluetooth just isn't as good as in wired headphones, even to a decidedly non-audiophile such as myself. Also, I find the range of Bluetooth doesn't really allow for as much freedom of movement as I would wish in some cases, and every stereo headset I've tried is extremely sensitive to motion (such as when running with your phone in your pocket) and/or obstruction (such as turning your head to look at something in such a way as to place your body mass between the phone and the headset receiver). In either case, the playback stutters quite a bit.
My feeling is that Bluetooth technology isn't quite where it needs to be for music playback yet. Unless you're in a situation where you really need/want them, I think most people are still better off with wired headphones. Give it a year or two for quality to go up and prices to go down and it might be a different story.
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Seems to work excellently with my car stereo. The data throughput of Bluetooth is more than enough to handle music.

zorak950 said:
I'm happy for you, but not everyone wants to pay $200+ for headphones.
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For someone who cares so much about sound quality, I'm surprised you have not spent close to or even more than $200 on a pair of wired headphones even.

zorak950 said:
I'm happy for you, but not everyone wants to pay $200+ for headphones.
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My earphones are CX95 which I bought for about £60 (I also use other Sennheiser models which are about £15-£30) so I am not sure how you got 200+
The bluetooth headset itself was £15.

earbuds with mic

The headphones that came with my play seem to be dying. Looking for a replacement:
Shure SE115M+
Does not work, get Accessory not supported message. meh
Phonak Perfect Bass
Got a straight connector, will be a problem in the pocket
So I'm looking for over the ear cabling and a right angle jack - any suggestions?
Cheers

Try and request a free replacment.

svenk919 said:
Try and request a free replacment.
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No joy with that but I did find these on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-Ericss...WV3G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1311248051&sr=8-1
Ordered last week and delivered yesterday - not bad considering they have come from Germany. Proper Sony box, extra buds. Yay I have sound in both ears
Also.. this looks the business:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/live-sound?cc=gb&lc=en#view=overview
No word on eta or price though

I got the MW600 Bluetooth... I great to have it wireless..., however... I don't like the quality of the headphones on either the Play Box or the MW600...
I can recommend the Samsung S8000 (JET) heaset... I used to have one it is GREAT!!!!
The sound is great on the and it has a jack for 3.5 on the Mic, so you can change the headphones only if you want... also it has a 90 degree plug. (funny because it make it uncorfortable on the JET... but GREAT for the PLAY.

Mine are also dying, slowly the volume output is getting lower and lower
Undecided on new headphones as well.
Don't want to spend money to have it die a month later, or have poor audio output .
MH650 are the stock ones that came with the phone? don't really want to buy ones that died within a month of use again.

Be careful what headphones you buy!
I bought Skullcandy FIX ear buds ( http://www.skullcandy.com/shop/fix-bud-navy-black.html ) and they dont work with the phone. The plug goes in but because of the curve on the phone, doesnt go in all the way so you get a weird cross channel. The headphones work awesomely in every other thing I tried, so it's basically just the curve on the body of the phone that stops it.

Best headphones for inc?

Hello
I am on the hunt for some good headphones that I can use to listen to music and answer/talk on the phone. I got some headphones off amazon that said they were for the incredible, however you can't answer the phone by the headphone controls... Has anyone found some good headphones?
Thanks
Swegin
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I'd recommend pre-ordering the Klipsch Image S4A's. I have the regular Image S4's (no inline remote/mic, otherwise identical) and they sound incredible. They're well worth the asking price.

I am notoriously cheap. Um, I mean frugal.
Awhile back I looked around for earbuds and found a few that I liked. I like Koss, though they can tend to be kind of bass-heavy (to the point of muddiness). The Plug by Koss is an example of this: they fit wonderfully but can be a bit biased toward bass.
I replaced my Plugs by Koss with a pair of black Yamaha EPH-20 earbuds. They are quite a bit "brighter" than the Plug but don't skimp on the bass.
I personally can't see spending more than $30 or so on earbuds for my cell phone, so I hope this helps.

No brainier when these come out. Inline control works with Android, iOS and WindowsPhone for $50.
http://www.jays.se/products/earphones/a-jays-one-plus.html
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I use JH Audio 13 PRO with my Dinc and they sound incredible but they are $1,150 ha ha.

I use a pair of JVC Marshmallow 'buds... they're $20 at Wal-Mart, come in several different colors, and sound amazing to me. Yeah, they don't have a built in mic, no external controls, but if what you're looking for is simply music, they're one heck of a deal.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/JVC-In-Ear-Marshmallow-Black/14562427
If you need the built in mic and answer controls, the wired headset earbuds from my old BlackBerry sound decent and the answer button / mic works. $8 on amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/BlackBerry-HDW-16904-003-Blackberry-Microphone-3-5mm/dp/B002ECE8QY

Regular price $60
On sale for $15
http://www.amazon.com/GOgroove-High-Performance-Hands-free-Playback-Controller/dp/B005MZU0JY/

Thats a good deal

Bang and Olufsen Earset 3 or A8s
I work for Bang and Olufsen, and we make a killer set, for about $200. I might sound a little biased, but honestly I could care less if you chose to by ours over another brand. Why? If I sell one, I make about 5 Bucks commission. And the odds someone reading this forum is going to buy a set from me? Don't really need to answer that one. That being said, hear me out about the inside scoop:
They are made out of aluminum, and aren't the isolation type that get shoved in your ear canal. You lose a little bass, but you can walk down the street and not get jacked because you are oblivious to whats going on around you. They have great sensitivity (don't need to crank your device, which saves battery life), and the stereo imaging is amazing. The highs are clear and sharp and don't break up. They also stay on your ears very well and are great for exercising. Plus, they come with a 3 year international warranty: If you break them, you can bring them into any showroom in the world and we will swap them out on the spot (provided they don't look like you ran them over with a car) if you have proof of purchase (we will help you out with this part by contacting the store you purchased them from).
We also have sets of the Dre Beats In-Ears, Bose on-ears and in-ears (Bose stands for "Buy Other Sound Equipment"), and the Klipsch S4s in our showroom and have tested them against our own. We beat them hands down. Our customers have all agreed as well (comparing them hands-on with their own phones and ipods, not our demo tracks).
Go find a showroom, and give them a shot. Not saying their the best thing since sliced bread, but you might find them to be exactly what you are looking for.

philycheezblunt said:
I work for Bang and Olufsen, and we make a killer set, for about $200. I might sound a little biased, but honestly I could care less if you chose to by ours over another brand. Why? If I sell one, I make about 5 Bucks commission. And the odds someone reading this forum is going to buy a set from me? Don't really need to answer that one. That being said, hear me out about the inside scoop:
They are made out of aluminum, and aren't the isolation type that get shoved in your ear canal. You lose a little bass, but you can walk down the street and not get jacked because you are oblivious to whats going on around you. They have great sensitivity (don't need to crank your device, which saves battery life), and the stereo imaging is amazing. The highs are clear and sharp and don't break up. They also stay on your ears very well and are great for exercising. Plus, they come with a 3 year international warranty: If you break them, you can bring them into any showroom in the world and we will swap them out on the spot (provided they don't look like you ran them over with a car) if you have proof of purchase (we will help you out with this part by contacting the store you purchased them from).
We also have sets of the Dre Beats In-Ears, Bose on-ears and in-ears (Bose stands for "Buy Other Sound Equipment"), and the Klipsch S4s in our showroom and have tested them against our own. We beat them hands down. Our customers have all agreed as well (comparing them hands-on with their own phones and ipods, not our demo tracks).
Go find a showroom, and give them a shot. Not saying their the best thing since sliced bread, but you might find them to be exactly what you are looking for.
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While I have no doubt that the B&O set is very good, I have difficulty imagining that they're as much bang for your buck as (at least) the Klipsch S4s. I agree with a lot of your points (with Bose and Beats, you're paying for the brand, not for quality) but when you say that the B&O set beats all those, it should... it costs $200. The rest are $75-100, or cheaper if you find a decent deal (not too hard). As great as the B&O set may be, 3/8 the price for at least 5/8 sound quality (S4) makes a much better deal for the average, non-audiophile, consumer who wants great sound from their device.

but also to consider; the Klipsch ones aren't as durable. You'll probably go through 3 pairs in the time you go through one set of B&Os. $200 is for the earset, which has a mic for handsfree calling. 160 gets you headphones only.

philycheezblunt said:
but also to consider; the Klipsch ones aren't as durable. You'll probably go through 3 pairs in the time you go through one set of B&Os. $200 is for the earset, which has a mic for handsfree calling. 160 gets you headphones only.
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How long are you talking about going through the B&O's in? I've had the S4s for about 6 months. That's longer than I've ever had earbuds before (I'm VEEEERY hard on them), and they still look and feel brand new. By my standards, the build quality is extremely impressive.

My buddy is on an earbud hunting kick and I've been helping him out. We've tested just about everything we can find locally and so far the best sounding are the Klipsch X10I. We found them locally for $250.00 and they are worth it. I have a set of JH Audio 13 PRO's and the Klipsch X10I's sound about 50% of the JH Audio and that's really saying something. Besides the JH Audio, the Klipsch X10I's are the best sounding earbuds I've heard yet.

http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-S2m-Noise-Isolating-Microphone-Single-Button/dp/B002FB7IWU
I like the S2m. Decent price too.
And BOSE also stands for "Basically...Overpriced Stereo Equipment"
No highs...No lows...Must be BOSE!!

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sony-DRBT101-BLK-Stereo-Bluetooth-Headphones-Black/13904899
I use these as headphone for music and calls. I cannot attest to any sound quality As I am somewhat hearing impaired(need aids) But these are able to play music loud enuff for me listen too. On calls I hear the voice quite well and the caller says they can hear me clearly.

I have a pair of Shure SE210s and I love them, but I can't recommend them unless you're planning on photo-shopping your receipt to make it look like they're still under the 2 year warranty when they break every 1.5 years. The audio quality is fantastic, and I like the in-ear design but they just don't hold up to what I think is normal use.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/478568/multi-iem-review-200-iems-compared-hifiman-re272-added-10-14-11
That's all you need.
I use the $50-$60 ViSang R03 / Brainwavz M2, and couldn't be happier.
"The ViSang R03 is an incredible performer - a wholesome combination of build quality, comfort, and sound at a price well south of $100. In terms of coherency of sound signature they are up there with the best sub-$100 earphones I have heard. The combination of impactful bass, clear mids, and crisp treble give the R03 a very agreeable sound that can be enjoyed by both the audiophile and the casual listener in equal measure. And that fact alone makes them highly recommended earphones with a sound signature geared slightly towards the mainstream market compared to much of the gear talked about on head-fi. Do I personally still prefer a more analytical sound? Yes. But that does not prevent me from enjoying the R03 in the least. They are not perfect, but they are unreasonably good for what they cost."

PGleo86 said:
How long are you talking about going through the B&O's in? I've had the S4s for about 6 months. That's longer than I've ever had earbuds before (I'm VEEEERY hard on them), and they still look and feel brand new. By my standards, the build quality is extremely impressive.
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3 Years plus. They will most likely last you well past that, but if they break within 3, you get a brand new pair for free.

Klipsch
I love the new Klipsch S4A great sound quality for a low price, plus it's made specifically for android

I'm going to sound insane compared to folks advocating $50-$250 headphones.
I use OEM Palm Stereo Headset 3.5mm model#3422WW. These are in ear, not in ear canal. They sound better than $30 & $50 headphones I've tried. Oh yeah easily had on eBay $3.50.

Best budget BT IEM for M8?

Hello!
I am searching for affordable BT IEMs but with good sound quality and functions (vol +-,tracks,play/pause buttons)
To use with my HTC M8
I have found the Sony SBH-20 to be a good solution as I can plug my RE-272 to get BT + very good sound quality, though the RE-272 cable is too long because of the extension (you can't get stereo sound without it) and the SBH-20 is BT 3.0 and not APTX...
There are tons of Chinese branded BT earphones on Amazon like ''Soundpeats'' ''Mpow'' and ''Imarku'' that are all BT 4.0 and even sometime APTX!
But it's not like the SBH20, meaning the IEMs cant be replaced, so I have no clue which one has a good sound quality.
Please help!

I have a Samsung HS3000 thats like the sony but without the nfc pairing. Its APT-X and works pretty well. The only problem is that it is currently discontinued and I'm not sure where to find one.

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I have a Samsung HS3000 thats like the sony but without the nfc pairing. Its APT-X and works pretty well. The only problem is that it is currently discontinued and I'm not sure where to find one.
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I have heard not so good things about the samsung's one, we even have them in my country (Lebanon) for 50$ but I am not convinced, they say buttons are badly implemented and volume is low.
I have found the Sony SBH50 to be a better deal than SBH20, with the Oled screen I can read music names,SMS,caller ID...and even some weather infos (though I can live without it)
Actually I am using the HTC Stereoclip in my car which is aptx and BT 2.1 and the sound quality is very good, nearly as good as cabled connection by AUX, the Sony ones are not aptx but BT 3.0, so I guess aptx + BT 2.1 = non aptx + BT 3.0 right?
I don't know if I can trust the reviews at Amazon about this earphones by ''Imarku'' but it looks like a good deal http://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Wireless-Headphones-Hands-Free-Microphone/dp/B00S7ZXO9E/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_t

Could you not just do a search on amazon for that exact thing? I trust the amazon algorithm to output the highest quality item first in the list. Just check the reviews on there.

I have tried a couple BT devices (Jabra, Sony, etc.) with IEMs over the past few years....somewhat of an headphone/IEM audiophile (2 portable headphone amps, 1 desktop tube based headphone amp, and have lost count on IEMs and headphones...if that says anything).
Currently using these when I want stereo BT connection with my M8. Soundpeats Qy7 I believe these are one of the 'clones' mentioned above. I also use Viper4audio mod for sound shaping (on a Viper 3.2.1 ROM'd M8 running 4.4.4). On the Qy7's, I've added ComplyFoam T400s. Works very nicely, have no major complaints. Not as good as a couple other options I have around (all corded, though), but that's to be expected. My biggest gripe is that they are prone to falling out, even with the ComplyFoams inserted correctly, and using the inner ear loops. Have to re-adjust every 10-15 minutes....just while sitting. Not a major deal though.
The best sounding setup I've ever used was actually the Jabra Street2 connected to a pair of Ultimate Ears Triple.Fi 10s...but the Jabra Street2 is plagued with intermittent skips and annoyances (and it was corrected with a firmware update, but mine won't update).
I'd like to try the Jaybird Bluebuds, but those aren't considered 'budget' by any standard, and happy enough with the options I have, atm.
FWIW. HTH.

sttw1fa said:
I have tried a couple BT devices (Jabra, Sony, etc.) with IEMs over the past few years....somewhat of an headphone/IEM audiophile (2 portable headphone amps, 1 desktop tube based headphone amp, and have lost count on IEMs and headphones...if that says anything).
Currently using these when I want stereo BT connection with my M8. Soundpeats Qy7 I believe these are one of the 'clones' mentioned above. I also use Viper4audio mod for sound shaping (on a Viper 3.2.1 ROM'd M8 running 4.4.4). On the Qy7's, I've added ComplyFoam T400s. Works very nicely, have no major complaints. Not as good as a couple other options I have around (all corded, though), but that's to be expected. My biggest gripe is that they are prone to falling out, even with the ComplyFoams inserted correctly, and using the inner ear loops. Have to re-adjust every 10-15 minutes....just while sitting. Not a major deal though.
The best sounding setup I've ever used was actually the Jabra Street2 connected to a pair of Ultimate Ears Triple.Fi 10s...but the Jabra Street2 is plagued with intermittent skips and annoyances (and it was corrected with a firmware update, but mine won't update).
I'd like to try the Jaybird Bluebuds, but those aren't considered 'budget' by any standard, and happy enough with the options I have, atm.
FWIW. HTH.
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Thanks for your report.
I have read that the QY5 and QY7 were having these problems of falling which are a big deal for me as I will use them while jogging.
HIFIMAN can be perfect with SBH50 if the TRRS 3.5mm plug was compatible with it, but I doubt

vegetaleb said:
Thanks for your report.
I have read that the QY5 and QY7 were having these problems of falling which are a big deal for me as I will use them while jogging.
HIFIMAN can be perfect with SBH50 if the TRRS 3.5mm plug was compatible with it, but I doubt
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One other little tidbit.....IEMs, are nowhere near a 'one size fits all' prospect, even when the manufacturer gives you (like the QY7) 3 different sized ear loops (to hold them in your ear) and also 3 different sized ear tips (the part that inserts into the ear canal).
In my experience......owning 20-30 different sets of IEMs over the past 10 years...some manufacturers work better for me, and some just never will. Ultimate Ears (before purchase by Logitech), Sennheiser, Plantronics....almost always fit me well. Other brands (Shure, Panasonic, Sony, Onkyo, etc.), not so much.
What I'm getting at is the QY7 may not exhibit that issue at all for you, like it does for the reviews from others (including me). If you order from a place that has a liberal return policy....then you could try and see. Amazon is currently showing $36 for me....not very expensive, even by corded standard pricing....might be worth a shot.
I always take reviews with a slight grain of salt....and look at them a bit differently (than most I think). In respect to the QY7, there are 1K+ reviews, with ~75% of them being reviewed at 4 or 5 stars. Not bad. When reviewing.....participation of positive reviews don't account for nearly as much as sellers/manufactuers would want, (it's in the 10-20% range). The bad/negative reviews have a much higher participation....then, all in all, taking that into consideration....there are many more that are happy with the QY7 vs. those that aren't, but it's hard to see that. Just MHO. FWIW. YMMV. :silly:
If you really want to get into all things IEM and headphone.....Google 'Head-Fi Forums'. Then.....sorry about your wallet!

sttw1fa said:
One other little tidbit.....IEMs, are nowhere near a 'one size fits all' prospect, even when the manufacturer gives you (like the QY7) 3 different sized ear loops (to hold them in your ear) and also 3 different sized ear tips (the part that inserts into the ear canal).
In my experience......owning 20-30 different sets of IEMs over the past 10 years...some manufacturers work better for me, and some just never will. Ultimate Ears (before purchase by Logitech), Sennheiser, Plantronics....almost always fit me well. Other brands (Shure, Panasonic, Sony, Onkyo, etc.), not so much.
What I'm getting at is the QY7 may not exhibit that issue at all for you, like it does for the reviews from others (including me). If you order from a place that has a liberal return policy....then you could try and see. Amazon is currently showing $36 for me....not very expensive, even by corded standard pricing....might be worth a shot.
I always take reviews with a slight grain of salt....and look at them a bit differently (than most I think). In respect to the QY7, there are 1K+ reviews, with ~75% of them being reviewed at 4 or 5 stars. Not bad. When reviewing.....participation of positive reviews don't account for nearly as much as sellers/manufactuers would want, (it's in the 10-20% range). The bad/negative reviews have a much higher participation....then, all in all, taking that into consideration....there are many more that are happy with the QY7 vs. those that aren't, but it's hard to see that. Just MHO. FWIW. YMMV. :silly:
If you really want to get into all things IEM and headphone.....Google 'Head-Fi Forums'. Then.....sorry about your wallet!
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Lol I know Head-Fi, I bought the Hifiman IEMs thanks to their reviews.
And yeah they are a little snobbish with people paying 600$ for IEM
Reviews at Amazon are not always a good results, specially for IEM.
I bought 4 years ago a pair of these Sony http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDREX10LP-BLU-In-Ear-Headphones/dp/B004UDZ8O6 which are still like you see rated 4 stars.
I have never heard a such awful sound in all IEM till now, they were way too in the lows, nothing in the mids not highs, no details!
Why is it so well reviewed? well I figured it's because it costs only 12$ and people who like the sound quality were fans of ''only bass'' music like rap and rnb, which are the only type of music I don't listen too btw.
That's why I am afraid the QY7 models are so well reviewed for the same reasons.
I have found one review that was extremely positive for the Soundpeats QY7 in a blog and another one that smashed it in Head-Fi as a ridiculous sound quality with emphasis on lows only (like the Sony I hated)

I'm sure you know this....but just putting it out there. You can EQ with most any music player (I use PowerAmp)....and with Viper Audio's Viper4Android FX you can even EQ Spotify, Slacker, MOG, Pandora, iHeartRadio.....almost anything. It even has separate options for EQ'ing the different output methods, Bluetooth connected versus wired, for example.
Not trying to twist your arm....but $36 to try them....maybe $6 to return them if they don't work out (Amazon return policy is pretty good, just have to pay return shipping).
Sound wise, they aren't bad IMHO. You're jogging with them. Are you really going to miss the upper/lower 10-15% of the sound spectrum while jogging (as opposed to the pounding of your feet and breathing, since you are wearing IEMs)? And, even if so, you could EQ that back in.... For everything else not jogging, you've got the HiFiMan's. :good:
One other idea (and again, you probably know this if you've spent any length of time on Head-Fi)....reviews of IEMs that include the words 'clarity' and 'detail' are IEMs that are biased towards the high end vs. the low end comments of 'boom' 'bass' 'heavy' 'muddy'.
All good :highfive: Everyone searches for something different in IEMs/headphones, just like the many tastes of music itself.

sttw1fa said:
I'm sure you know this....but just putting it out there. You can EQ with most any music player (I use PowerAmp)....and with Viper Audio's Viper4Android FX you can even EQ Spotify, Slacker, MOG, Pandora, iHeartRadio.....almost anything. It even has separate options for EQ'ing the different output methods, Bluetooth connected versus wired, for example.
Not trying to twist your arm....but $36 to try them....maybe $6 to return them if they don't work out (Amazon return policy is pretty good, just have to pay return shipping).
Sound wise, they aren't bad IMHO. You're jogging with them. Are you really going to miss the upper/lower 10-15% of the sound spectrum while jogging (as opposed to the pounding of your feet and breathing, since you are wearing IEMs)? And, even if so, you could EQ that back in.... For everything else not jogging, you've got the HiFiMan's. :good:
One other idea (and again, you probably know this if you've spent any length of time on Head-Fi)....reviews of IEMs that include the words 'clarity' and 'detail' are IEMs that are biased towards the high end vs. the low end comments of 'boom' 'bass' 'heavy' 'muddy'.
All good :highfive: Everyone searches for something different in IEMs/headphones, just like the many tastes of music itself.
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Don't ask me why but I feel these Imarku http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S7ZXO9E?ref_=pe_623860_70668520 sound better than QY7-QY5, the seller told me it's totally different from the QY5 and QY7 clones you see in Amazon. BT 4.0 but no aptx (which is not a big deal as BT 3.0 and + are already good enough).
The thing is that they won't deliver to my sis in NYC before the 10th Feb with standard delivery, I will have to pay the fast delivery 13$ to be sure she get it before she meet my friend.
So the that's why I can't try and return like you said, I must be 100% sure it's a good deal for me before buying.
I have a friend who is traveling to NYC next week for 3-4 days, I live in Lebanon and if I want to do a delivery from Amazon to here it will cost me 80$ more lol.
Imarku looks like a good deal if I trust the 24 reviews but I am afraid of the diameter of the earphone itself right after the rubber part as it looks too large and could make it falls on the first jogging vibration,even do some irritation to my ear, the Sony SBH50 is a sure thing as I can plug any IEM if I don't like the ones that come with it. That's why I can't decide :crying:
Oh and btw IEM BT here are the most expensive models like Bose and Beats, even Sony doesn't bring the ''cheap'' models SBH20,50 and 52, they have only 1 model at 150$
You can find some headphones (over the ear) BT like Energysistem for 80$ but I don't see myself jogging with such big things.

Missed the fact about being in Lebanon.
I also have the SBH-50. What did you need to confirm with it? Just that a TRRS plugged IEM would work with it? Don't know that I've tried that. But, I could and let you know.
The way it's 'supposed' to work is that when a TRRS plug is in a regular stereo (3 part) receptor....the result is the same as if both parts were stereo (3 part) connection.

sttw1fa said:
Missed the fact about being in Lebanon.
I also have the SBH-50. What did you need to confirm with it? Just that a TRRS plugged IEM would work with it? Don't know that I've tried that. But, I could and let you know.
The way it's 'supposed' to work is that when a TRRS plug is in a regular stereo (3 part) receptor....the result is the same as if both parts were stereo (3 part) connection.
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The weird thing is that when I connect directly the TRRS plug into the M8 only one earphone will work, but if I plug it to the HTC BT Stereoclip with the help of a female 3.5mm to female 3.5mm, the sound is stereo like if the TRRS to TRS cable was used
Hoping the Sony SBH50 will act the same it will be awesome because the Hifiman RE-272 and 262 cable lenght with TRRS plug is short and perfect for the Sony SBH50, it's the extension cable (which act as TRRS to TRS adapter too) that add an extra 80cm!

Charging up the HBH50 and will do some comparisons with it connected to a couple different stereo IEMs, and an Apple iPhone 5s headset (the only version of IEM/buds I have with TRRS plug).
Honestly the HBH50 will be the best option, IMHO, as you can use it with any headphone.
Of course, the reason I don't always use the HBH50 is that it's a bit 'bright' with it's presentation of sound. The Jabra Street2 I have is a bit more my liking, which, while I'm no basshead....I do like accurate, tight, controlled, emphasized rhythm (percussion and bass guitar) section. But, the top end still has to be there and quite accurate as well.
Will report back, may be tomorrow....still gotta work! :silly:

Here's why the HTC M8 and M7 before it can't make a stereo sound with the TRRS of Hifiman.
It's the RE-0 one but I am sure it's the same as RE-272 and 262
So as you can see the third ring which is used by earphones+mic models as mic is used here for left channel, I wonder if we can do something app based...
I couldn't find a female TRRS to male TRS small cable yet instead of using the 80cm one.
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Highly doubt a software solution will fix this type of a hardware (the balanced iem plug wiring) issue.
FWIW, the HBH50 works great on the HTC M8 with an iPhone 5s Apple iem/bud earphone (the ones included in purchase). which has the 4 option plug, with the back connection being the mic. Just note, the mic of the headset is NOT connected. This setup uses the mic of the HBH50, but puts stereo out to the Apple iem. All keypress functions of the HBH50 work fine. Auto-reconnect upon turning the HBH50 on/off works nicely too.
And...the HBH50 does come with a iem/bud/headset on it's own that has a short cord.
HTH.

sttw1fa said:
Highly doubt a software solution will fix this type of a hardware (the balanced iem plug wiring) issue.
FWIW, the HBH50 works great on the HTC M8 with an iPhone 5s Apple iem/bud earphone (the ones included in purchase). which has the 4 option plug, with the back connection being the mic. Just note, the mic of the headset is NOT connected. This setup uses the mic of the HBH50, but puts stereo out to the Apple iem. All keypress functions of the HBH50 work fine. Auto-reconnect upon turning the HBH50 on/off works nicely too.
And...the HBH50 does come with a iem/bud/headset on it's own that has a short cord.
HTH.
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Thanks I ordered a white one from B&H (it's sexier and cheaper than the black one), you have to install the SBH50 app and the Smart connect app to use the full features right(SMS view,song names,ID callers...)?
Can you update its FW from the M8 too or you need an xperia phone?

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Thanks I ordered a white one from B&H (it's sexier and cheaper than the black one), you have to install the SBH50 app and the Smart connect app to use the full features right(SMS view,song names,ID callers...)?
Can you update its FW from the M8 too or you need an xperia phone?
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This part I'm not really sure. I use a Pebble Steel watch along with a couple custom apps for SMS viewing/alerting, caller ID and call dialing/muting/handling features.
Both Slacker and PowerAmp (music apps) worked with the HBH50 without any additional software to show the song names and artist. Same for all the ff/rw/pause/play features. Only had to pair the HBH50 and it all 'just worked'.
For updating firmware...honestly never looked into it for the HBH, but if it's like the Jabra Street2, there's probably a separate app using Windows to do it with a USB cable.
HTH.

sttw1fa said:
This part I'm not really sure. I use a Pebble Steel watch along with a couple custom apps for SMS viewing/alerting, caller ID and call dialing/muting/handling features.
Both Slacker and PowerAmp (music apps) worked with the HBH50 without any additional software to show the song names and artist. Same for all the ff/rw/pause/play features. Only had to pair the HBH50 and it all 'just worked'.
For updating firmware...honestly never looked into it for the HBH, but if it's like the Jabra Street2, there's probably a separate app using Windows to do it with a USB cable.
HTH.
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I think it's trhough the Sony SBH50 app in the Google playstore,once you install it, it will say there is a new FW.
Hopefully I will get mine in the coming days, it's still with my friend in NY and he's coming back this week

Wow these SBH50 are really good!
BT 3.0 is superior to 2.1 + APTX, sound is clear, soundstage is wide and no muffling sound typical of BT compression.
The given earphones are way too bassy, I had to lower the bass in Viper4android well under the average.
The HIFIMAN RE-272 have a superb sound with the SBH50 but as expected the 3 strips stereo plug didn't work, I have to use the extension cable making it too long for a BT device unless I clip it on my Tshirt sleeve instead of the collar.
I will try to find a shorter extension-adapter cable.
All the functions of the SBH50 are supported with the M8, MP3 tag,caller ID...
Though the sound volume is not very loud, tried it with a 3.5mm to 3.5mm in my car instead of the HTC Stereoclip and it was perhaps 40% more quiet, but with the earphones the volume is good after adding +6db thanks again to V4A, it could have take an extra 10% more.