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FM Radio on TyTNII?

Is it possible to use the existing hardware within the TyTNII for receiving FM radio signals? Surely it'd be a case of utilising the same hardware used for WiFi (802.11x = 2.4GHz), but at a lower frequency (FM 88.0MHz-108.0MHz)..
I was disappointed that FM radio was not an included feature of the TyTNII, however I'm happy with just about everything else about it. The only comparable phone that I was considering is the Eten X500+ glofiish which does have FM radio.
If there is already an FM radio application, please hook me up.
Regards,
Scott.

NOPE kaiser does not have fm transmitter ...

if it was simply the case of utilizing the same hardware.......then surely, every single ppc with wifi could be modded to receive fm radio signal. holy cow, you know what i realized, my laptop has wifi too! i'm sooo gonna mod it to receive fm radio

just because they use the same term "radio frequency" doesn't always mean that they're interchangeable. so let's review this... since TyTn II has WiFi radio chip is there any software to turn it into:
satellite dish receiver?
citizen band transceiver?
(hd)tv tuner?
microwave oven?
fm radio? ... maybe not
bluetooth - there's a dedicated component/module for this
GPS - there's a dedicated component/module for this
but who knows if there was a disabled chip that can potentially be activated (as long as the hardware is there and accessible), there might be possibilities

one word: SEARCH!
there is a LONG thread on this in one of the kaiser sections which has long been buried which has determined that the kaiser does not have the proper hardware to receive FM radio signals. the touch cruise can receive them IIRC but the kaiser cannot due to the lack of a needed chip.

wizzi said:
Is it possible to use the existing hardware within the TyTNII for receiving FM radio signals? Surely it'd be a case of utilising the same hardware used for WiFi (802.11x = 2.4GHz), but at a lower frequency (FM 88.0MHz-108.0MHz)..
I was disappointed that FM radio was not an included feature of the TyTNII, however I'm happy with just about everything else about it. The only comparable phone that I was considering is the Eten X500+ glofiish which does have FM radio.
If there is already an FM radio application, please hook me up.
Regards,
Scott.
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Threads like this should be closed the second they are posted. Sorry if i sound like a know it all, but i am a amateur radio operator, hence I have alo't of experience in the radio field. Using a modulated 2.4ghz transciever in impossible to re-modulate it to the am/fm bands. it just wont work.
second. you have to have a on board antenna and a tuner that is resonant on those freq's and the kaiser/tilt does not.
Third. Dutty has been tinkering on a idea of getting it to work, and following what he is thinking it might work, however the reception most likely will be limited.
Fourth. If a radio is such a big deal then buy a am/fm portable radio, or buy a sony w580i,
Fifth. SEARCH, there are plenty of threads regarding this.

KD8DNS said:
Threads like this should be closed the second they are posted. Sorry if i sound like a know it all, but i am a amateur radio operator, hence I have alo't of experience in the radio field. Using a modulated 2.4ghz transciever in impossible to re-modulate it to the am/fm bands. it just wont work.
second. you have to have a on board antenna and a tuner that is resonant on those freq's and the kaiser/tilt does not.
Third. Dutty has been tinkering on a idea of getting it to work, and following what he is thinking it might work, however the reception most likely will be limited.
Fourth. If a radio is such a big deal then buy a am/fm portable radio, or buy a sony w580i,
Fifth. SEARCH, there are plenty of threads regarding this.
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Sixth. Using wifi or data go to www.thestreamcenter.com/pda and listen to all the FM radio your heart desires

Wow! Thanks for that link.

...or get one of the many internet radio programs available (such as Resco Pocket Radio).

Eris FM radio

I'm pretty sure this still requires root, but I would be interested on having this feature as part of my phone.
www.androidguys.com/2010/01/27/moto-cliqs-hidden-feature/
also on www.engadget.com/2010/01/28/moto-cliq-hacked-to-enable-fm-radio-easy-listenin-coming-soon/
this guy has copied an FMradio lib file and bin file and installed a fmradio apk he found in an lg rom to his moto cliq and in turn enabled the fm radio that is part of the broadcom wireless chip. Does anyone know if all the htc phones have that same wireless chip with fm receiver/transmitter built in? Also I know we can load the apk's but it is the bin and lib files are blocked from write permission until we find root access?
CH

csht said:
I'm pretty sure this still requires root, but I would be interested on having this feature as part of my phone.
www.androidguys.com/2010/01/27/moto-cliqs-hidden-feature/
also on www.engadget.com/2010/01/28/moto-cliq-hacked-to-enable-fm-radio-easy-listenin-coming-soon/
this guy has copied an FMradio lib file and bin file and installed a fmradio apk he found in an lg rom to his moto cliq and in turn enabled the fm radio that is part of the broadcom wireless chip. Does anyone know if all the htc phones have that same wireless chip with fm receiver/transmitter built in? Also I know we can load the apk's but it is the bin and lib files are blocked from write permission until we find root access?
CH
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I am not sure if ALL Htc phones have the capability, I do know that my Raphael, Tilt, Xperia have all had it.
This will be a possibilty, but sadly not until we get root.
We are getting closer to it though

it should have fm capability. the built in antenna might be an issue at getting far off stations but it should work.

acidbath5546 said:
I am not sure if ALL Htc phones have the capability, I do know that my Raphael, Tilt, Xperia have all had it.
This will be a possibilty, but sadly not until we get root.
We are getting closer to it though
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I meant to say that the htc phones that share the same broadcom wireless chip, a/b/g and bluetooth probably all have the fm radio although I haven't been able to locate a bill of materials for the eris or hero. isuppli did one for the nexus but that has wireless n, most likely a different chip. I'm pretty sure my htc touch(cdma) does not have that, being it lacking the wifi connectivity.
Thanks for the reply. Good luck to everyone working on rooting. hopefully there will be some trick to loading a hacked recovery image off the sd card or something, even a nasty terminal command
CH

csht said:
I meant to say that the htc phones that share the same broadcom wireless chip, a/b/g and bluetooth probably all have the fm radio although I haven't been able to locate a bill of materials for the eris or hero. isuppli did one for the nexus but that has wireless n, most likely a different chip. I'm pretty sure my htc touch(cdma) does not have that, being it lacking the wifi connectivity.
Thanks for the reply. Good luck to everyone working on rooting. hopefully there will be some trick to loading a hacked recovery image off the sd card or something, even a nasty terminal command
CH
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I hear what your saying...would it be the broadcom chip? Maybe devices post Raphael?
Not sure..
But anyways...Our Devs are hard at work and I have to say this is the most impresive team of Devs I have seen together in awhile.
I will shoot out news and updates this weekend...

If you can find out what chip is in the phone, I can find out if it has FM or not. I'd need a model number, and preferably an FCC ID. Not sure how you would get those, though.

have you try "Pandora" it's the best radio apps for droid eris.

coolfx35 said:
have you try "Pandora" it's the best radio apps for droid eris.
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Slacker is pretty nice too. For music playing, I use TuneWiki.

Pandora and slacker are fine if you want to listen to music, but I need an actual FM radio receiver for the Eris for when I'm at the gym. They broadcast the sound from the TVs over the radio and although I get it no problem on my HD2, my girlfriend cant find any apps for her Eris.

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would really like to know if anyone knows if the eris has fm capabilities becouse that would be so awseome!!!!

Does anyone have the apk to try this out?

I have some pictures of the mobo of the Eris here: http://s811.photobucket.com/albums/zz37/Gh0stRyd3r/Eris%20Inside/.
Maybe one of those will let you know what chip model we have for the FM radio?

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Can we do this now that we have root? I would happily alpha test.

the eris does not support FM radio signals.

shut down...
Sent from my Eris using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

so no one can tell me what chip the eris uses for wireless b/g and bluetooth or whether that chip contains the fm receiver or transmitter but you say it doesn't support fm... we all know it does not support fm. Just like rooting, it's a hack.
I took a look at your pictures and popped my phone apart as well, I couldn't make out the broadcomm chip that i was looking for but I didn't dig too deep in fear of something not working when I reassembled.
There doesn't seem to be much word on the Motorola cliq as well so not sure where the lg fm hack faded into.
So I found the FM radio.apk and lib files to run it, it doesn't get along well with the HTC device, the debugger has it looking for a bunch of motorola things. I was not able to run the test the other forms had as I was missing a file from the bin directory.
http://forum.androidfan.ru/index.php?showtopic=1455
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=608340
http://www.modmymoto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=526775

no... like really, I looked up the chipsets, they cannot be hacked with simple lib files and a apk. you would need to at least change out a crystal oscillator, and even then, that's just a theory. (a dangerous, brick your phone in 8 ways to sunday theory)

any idea which chip is in there? I figured even if HTC used the fm enabled chip they would not connect the audio out or fm antennae. it would be a cool trick. especially fm out.

csht said:
any idea which chip is in there? I figured even if HTC used the fm enabled chip they would not connect the audio out or fm antennae. it would be a cool trick. especially fm out.
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if i remember correctly one of the devs told me that the eris CANNOT have fm, not even with a hack or anything. maybe if you solder your own fm chip, the maybe, but until then, i really dont believe it is possible.

By far, hands down, without peer or exception, the absolute best in Radio for the Android is RadioTime v2.1 (current version)
Over 30,000 stations, world-wide, every kind of format you can name. Even the station where my son is a DJ in Texas is broadcast. I can listen to my hometown Boston radio stations that I haven't been able to listen to in years. Lots of Podcasts, too. And I can listen to NPR Car Talk anytime I want. woo-hoo!

[Q] FM Transmitter

Most references I see to the chip in the Galaxy S for handling the Bluetooth, WiFi, and FM are listed as a broadcom. I was unable to locate a chipset on broadcoms site that lists support for Bluetooth 3.0, but I did notice nearly all of the broacom chips that support FM radio support it as RX and TX. Is the chip in the Galaxy S a broadcom, and if so has anyone found a way to enable the TX portion? It was more a curiosity question as I'm sure the TX power is low as is the sound quality, but hey if it does offer it, why not exploit it?
Maybe this has already been answered for the Samsungs and I just missed it in my searches. The searches only returned other brand/model phones.
The other question I was wondering is if the FM range is hard coded in the chip, or if it's a soft radio where the RX frequencies could be shifted to say the Weather Band in the US, or some other area near the normal FM radio range? Again, this is all more out of curiosity than anything.
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I found this one that supports BT 3.0 and still lists FM RX/TX
BCM20751 - Bluetooth® + GPS + FM Combination ('Combo') Chip Solution

Well, this is like the only thing I'm missing from my old Nokia N97.. So I would like it.

mstrandbo said:
Well, this is like the only thing I'm missing from my old Nokia N97.. So I would like it.
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Well, after looking at the Samsung source for the I9000, it appears they use the SI4709 chip for FM reception, and that chip doesn't support FM TX, just RX.

fm transmitter

does mi 410 has a fm transmitter .... as i cannot find abouts it chip ....... also is their any software for it .. i couldnot find any soft in the market
* i read somewhere that droid supports fm transmission *
Sent from my CSL-MI410

wat i am talking abt is like in the phones like nokia n8
Sent from my CSL-MI410

if you mean fm radio, yes, it has a fm radio.

DigDub said:
if you mean fm radio, yes, it has a fm radio.
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He mean FM radio transmitter, not receiver. Which you can transmit your music being played trough FM radio transmitter and received by any other device with FM radio receiver (usually using FM radio in the car).

actually fm transmitter & receiver are on same chip nothing work as a single component..
the thing is that we don't have fm transmission app.
i would search for a third party one & let you guys know if a found one..

nitindeck said:
actually fm transmitter & receiver are on same chip nothing work as a single component..
the thing is that we don't have fm transmission app.
i would search for a third party one & let you guys know if a found one..
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is it? that would be very nice if we get a third party application

Its not possible by an app. Coz. Its not coded into android system libraries & not possible to design a specific for different model as they have different antennas of soc chip

nitindeck said:
actually fm transmitter & receiver are on same chip nothing work as a single component..
the thing is that we don't have fm transmission app.
i would search for a third party one & let you guys know if a found one..
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Are you sure that we have FM transceiver in our device? And in the same chip? It's great if we have it, since their technology is quite big different, but very possible to integrated in one chip.
I interested, may be you already knew what chip is it (chip type)? Maybe I can use it in my hardware project. Thanks.

My Spirit FM app is reported to be at least partly working on X6 u9000 now
See this for some details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19588094&postcount=1648
Latest test package is here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/5381ub38p0a1uym/Spirit_FM_Radio_v111122.apk .
I don't think I can even get one of these phones here in Canada. Maybe I
should ask Huawei to send me one...
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I think the FM is in the main Qualcomm SOC (chip). It's almost impossible to find any information on this chip, except for the code in the Qualcomm Code Aurora FM app.
That code DOES support transmit, but I have no idea if the X6 hardware can also handle transmit.
Among the many, many hundreds (or thousands?) of Android phones out there, only a few support FM transmit in the hardware. AFAIK this is only a few made by Sharp for Japan domestic use.
So I'm EXTREMELY pessimistic that this phone could support FM transmit. I think it makes FCC etc certification more expensive and it takes longer. But who knows...
AFAICT only this phone and the X5 use this Qualcomm Tavarua FM.

@mike
i just downloaded ur sprit fm radio .... can u tell me how to config it ¿
frm an punjabi mi 410

[Q] FM Radio?

Does this phone have the hardware? Is there a radio app or is anyone with the First able to use an app like Spirit FM?

This phone does not have FM hardware as far as I'm aware, though I could be wrong of course. I wouldn't count on it at the very least.

Thanks, I was under the impression that most HTC phones had FM capability; but on GSMArena, out of 88 HTC Android phones, only 55 have radio. Some low end phones are left out, and I guess this lack almost fits with the First's intended tier in terms of features. Of their previous Facebook phones, the HTC ChaCha had it but the Status did not.

According to Techradar, it does have a built-in FM radio. I have yet to try it out.
There's also a built-in FM radio in addition to support for AAC, AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, iMelody, MIDI and MP3 music formats.
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I can't post links yet, so Google it.

I've seen the TechRadar article, however it seems to be reporting on second hand information.
The Engadget review states:
Both devices also provide dual-band 802.11a/b/g/n, Bluetooth 4.0, NFC, FM radio, a non-removable 2,000mAh Lithium-polymer battery and 16GB of internal storage (11.9GB of which is user-accessible).
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Again this is hardly confirmation as they're just reiterating things from a spec sheet somewhere.
HTC doesn't bother to list FM capability even for phones that do have it, like the HTC One. And there are phones that have FM radios but no app by default, like the HTC Rezound and HTC One V.

I had read the stock FM app would support recording too, a "first" for HTC.
Is this phone DOA ? Does anyone have one and is there an FM app ?

I sampled a First in an AT&T store and it did not have an FM app.

it does have fm radio, i tried some fmradio apk installation, and it showed me msg of "this will replace ur installed app"
but when i let it install, it wont get install, showing me msg, "app not installed"
so it clear, there is a fm radio, but the thing is hidden..
anyone who can help this thing get it done??
or atleast show me a correct path, or direction, im ready to work it out myself.

oh yeah they do say it has fm radio... hmm thats interesting, im gonna follow this thread and report if i find anything on my own