Question for 2.1 testers - Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a question for those of you have been testing the 2.1 builds that are available here on xda. How is the video playback compared to 1.5? Is it any better, worse, or the same. I am referring to mp4 video and not online flash videos. Right now I have several movies on my sd card most of the time there are no sync or stuttering issues. Other times I have to reboot the phone to stop the sync issues. Also is the FFWD and REW functions still as slow as they are on 1.5?

I never got any videos to work on 1.5
Havn't tried it on 2.1.

In 1.5 video played great using meridian video player. im using the cyanogen 2.01 now and mp4's are not playing at all. Maybe due to no OpenGL.

ElAguila said:
I have a question for those of you have been testing the 2.1 builds that are available here on xda. How is the video playback compared to 1.5? Is it any better, worse, or the same. I am referring to mp4 video and not online flash videos. Right now I have several movies on my sd card most of the time there are no sync or stuttering issues. Other times I have to reboot the phone to stop the sync issues. Also is the FFWD and REW functions still as slow as they are on 1.5?
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What are you useing to convert your videos??

I use format factory. It is the best one that I have found. I usually have no stutters or sync issues as long as I have at least 60MB of RAM free when I start the movie. I use Act1 player.

I use DVD Fab Platinum to convert my DVDs. It will convert to any format you desire. I was testing 2.1, but I didn't try video (I figured it wasn't working until OpenGL was figured out).
With 1.5 I have successfully played eight different (full) movies using the "Video Player" app. This app is free on Market. I also use Auto Memory Manager by Mad Squirrel to keep enough memory free to eliminate any skipping.

I wasn't sure if it relied on OpenGL or not. I am not that familiar with android yet.

Any word on when the real 2.1 update is coming out? We're alway the last to get this kind of thing.

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Any word on when the real 2.1 update is coming out? We're alway the last to get this kind of thing.
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Early 2nd Quarter of 2010 (April-June)
http://twitter.com/sprint/status/9189584357

Thanks. Hopefully they'll keep on target.

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Finally A Working Android DIVX player

Here it is folks, on the market, yxflash, Check it out!
Its about time!
Believe i had this running on my 2g iPod touch. Currently doesn't playback videos smoothly, but hey, it's a start ^_^
didn't seem to work!
Worked for me, but some pauses in places and lag on the DivX moivie I tried. UI very rough. Pause/Play only in portrait mode. No menu options either while playing. Not worth paying for yet...more of a beta version.
Doooh....pauses after 2 mins because not registered! Still, UI needs work!
works fine with some glitches but 15$ for full version is insane
i'll stick with my encoding my videos
hi
how you get full version ? i havent tried this yet ... anyway besides this does anyone know when there will be an actual divx player available or is this the only one there is etc
Heeeeeeeeeelp,
can somebody help me please???????????? how can i install it?
shudnt be there more apps with an open source operating system?? :S
dying4004 said:
shudnt be there more apps with an open source operating system?? :S
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No particular reason why there should!
Regards,
Dave
schwlski said:
Heeeeeeeeeelp,
can somebody help me please???????????? how can i install it?
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Market->Search->xyflash->Install ?
does it support .srt files for subtitles?
It's still pretty poor! Very laggy and crashes occasionally.
Does anyone know of any decent video player for Hero
Can't wait for Coreplayer to be released for Android.
doesnt show up when I search for it in the market
I couldn't see it either when searching on Market, but it did come up when I searched for "divx"...
go figure...
Can anyone tell me wot the performance of this app is like on the HTC HERO? Can it play the standard 700MB movies you get off the net. 512x384 resolution etc or do you have to convert it to a lower res?
THANKS
It's ****ty. I tried episodes of 180mb, and it lags like hell.
Waiting for Coreplayer..
Lol
I thought something had finally come around that works when you resurrected this thread and I saw "finally a working divx...".
This player is aweful and you'd be best sticking to converting your videos.
full version doesn't work well too... still need improve before it can start charging. i done a crack for testing as request. it seem buggy & doesn't support all divx format. please do support paid version if you think the apps worth your $$.
On a similar theme, can anyone recommend a decent wmv player?
Or more info on iPhone/Zune/mp4 compatibility of the Hero?
Thanks
Phil
Plays for about 1/10 of a second then sends you back to the BUY section on 1.5......
Uninstalled

Choppy/Out of Sync Video

I've downloaded the HD version of the Superbowl to watch and tried on my gTab. With the stock player the video got way out of sync with the audio right away. I tried several other players from the market and most had the same issues. Each video is about 2 gigs (one for the first half and one for the second half). Is it just a case of the file size being too big for the tablet to keep up with?
I'll get more details about the video when I get home and post them.
What video players are other people using?
bmasephol said:
I've downloaded the HD version of the Superbowl to watch and tried on my gTab. With the stock player the video got way out of sync with the audio right away. I tried several other players from the market and most had the same issues. Each video is about 2 gigs (one for the first half and one for the second half). Is it just a case of the file size being too big for the tablet to keep up with?
I'll get more details about the video when I get home and post them.
What video players are other people using?
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What rom are u using? I had that problem with cyanogenmod 6 but then switched to vegan 5.1.1 and now runs smooth. My main video player is Act1.
manteka said:
What rom are u using? I had that problem with cyanogenmod 6 but then switched to vegan 5.1.1 and now runs smooth. My main video player is Act1.
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I'm using TNT Lite 4.2.4, maybe I'll give Vegan a try.

Is there a rom with smooth working flash and youtube?

With all the different roms and different versions I'm getting really confused and which roms can do what.
I've tried phiremod v2 and cm7 nightlies and the youtube app doesn't work at all in either. Youtube in the browser I couldn't get to work in phiremod v2. I can watch youtube if I change my user agent to desktop with cm7 nightly but it's choppy.
Can somebody enlighten me as to what I should be running if I want working and smooth flash videos?
This is not an answer to your question -
But if the widespread rumors are correct, then the B&N Stock NC will be updated to 2.2 with Flash by the end of the month, and then if you root that, you will be able to sideload Youtube App for Froyo to that. In fact, the update is supposed to include a B&N Market, and one would expect B&N to have all the Free Google Apps in their Market at startup. (But that's just speculation.)
Flash Player 10.2 working for me
I downloaded Flash Player 10.2 earlier today and it installed and works much better. I am running Phiremod 4.1. I got the APK from: freewarelovers(dot)com/android/app/adobe-flash-player
It's important to remember that Flash is an application framework that can deliver video among MANY other things. If you're looking for a FLV video player, then the performance still is not here: it requires hardware support and we don't have the drivers yet.
BUT, if you want to play games and use interactive websites written in Flash, then try out 10.2. It is WAY more functional.
Interesting. Are you saying that there are no roms with smooth playing flash video? It seems odd to me that everybody is so happy with these roms when they can't watch any flash video smoothly.
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Can somebody enlighten me as to what I should be running if I want working and smooth flash videos?
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To specifically answer your question, smooth video is supported in Eclair (the native Nook rooted ROM) and, I think, it plays acceptably in Froyo; although I could be mistaken.
A lot depends on the size/quality of the video; standard definition (640x480) should play acceptably well in either of those OS versions. Higher definition may stall from time to time.
Gingerbread 2.3 (CM7, etc) still does not have working drivers for the hardware assist features of the chipset, and hardware assist is essential to smooth video playback.
Here are the specs on Nook Color CPU/GPU (from Androidtablets.net):
CPU Processor: ARM Cortex A8-based Ti OMAP 3621 @ 800 MHz (same processor as Droid 2 and Droid X)
GPU Processor: PowerVR SGX530 Graphics Rendering: Open GLES1.1/2.0 Hardware Scaling: 854x480 scaled to 1024x600 Video Formats: .3GP, .MP4, .3G2 ** Video Codecs: H.263, H.264, MPEG-4, ON2 VP7 ** Image Formats: JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP ** (same GPU as Droid 2 and Droid X)​
As you can see, the GPU can support a native resolution of 854 x 480 (which is scaled in hardware to 1024 x 600); H.264/MPEG4 video (which FLV is a kind of) can be decoded in the hardware with the appropriate drivers. At present, all the players have to do this through software, which frankly is beyond the capability of the CPU at 800 MHz or even overclocked at 1.1 GHz.
We need to be patient; those hardware drivers will come.
Ok, I think I get it now.
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?
flammenwurfer said:
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
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I am not sure whether the Froyo rom can play video smoothly. It does on Droid and other phones, so I would guess those drivers have been tried out. I had Froyo on my Nook Color for a while, but frankly can't remember how the video was.
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So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?
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It depends on what you need/want. For me, the text handling of Froyo was awful. I have a HTC EVO 4G (with Sense UI on top of native Froyo). On my phone, I can type pretty effectively. The user dictionary is fast and smart and if I make a mistake, I have an arrows-equipped keyboard to move the cursor to the text I want to correct and fix it.
Froyo (Android 2.2) on both my Nook Color and my Viewsonic G-Tablet were nothing like my Evo. The keyboard often got what I typed wrong and when I tried to set a cursor to make a correction, it would end up one letter off. I tried out a bunch of keyboards - some with arrows - and had an OK Froyo-based system, but as soon as a decent Gingerbread-based ROM came along (and Phiremod's is EXCELLENT!), I went with that.
In Gingerbread, you have a much more accurate keyboard and dictionary lookup. The keyboard still doesn't have arrows, but you have a very nice cursor positioning tool, plus the ability to select a little or a lot of text and copy/paste it anywhere throughout the system.
But, as you note, certain of the multimedia features aren't there yet. Since I use my tablets more as very handy computers and less as multimedia entertainment systems, the choice was pretty straightforward for me. I can wait a few weeks for video playback.
And, frankly, the reason a lot of people get excited about roms - and having lots of different roms - is because they are fun in and of themselves. They like to tinker. And with the Nook, if you have a few bucks to buy a couple of micro SD cards, you can have two or three swap-in brains that completely transform your tablet. And take them out and still have a factory fresh Nook reader. It's really kind of awesome when you think about it.
But your mileage will certainly vary. If high definition is a deal breaker for you, you may find the Nook ultimately inadequate even when the Gingerbread drivers (and eventually Honeycomb drivers) come out. There's only so much power under this hood. A tablet based on Tegra 2 (like the Viewsonic G-Tablet or Xoom) may be more what you're looking for. With the right drivers, though, we should get perfectly acceptable 480p playback.
glg
The rom you are looking for is nookiefroyo. I have great YouTube playback in app including high quality. In browser 360p plays fine, but anything above that is choppy.
I also have tested other flash websites. CNN was perfect, as was megavideo.
I purchase my nook a few days ago and thus far nookie froyo looks to be the latest and most complete rom out. That plus the softkey theme I installed and the honeycomb keyboard makes this tablet a force to be reckoned with. I might even have to post a video soon because I'm so amazed atnhow well this thing runs.
I'm on CM7 Android 2.3.3 and am very happy. Not sure if it's the websites I've been on or what, but pretty much all non-HD flash works flawlessly for me. I've OCed my NookColor to 925mhz and have tried probably 5 or 6 different websites (including youtube and zomganime) Certain embeded flash players work better than others I"ve noticed, also, so not sure why that is, but so far I'm very happy. I even was running 3 flash videos (just to test it out) at once the other day, only one was choppy beyond watching. Oh I'd also like to note that it SEEMS to work better with Dolphin Browser, but that could again just be the website(s) I was on.
Sure not having a YouTube app kinda sucks, but the desktop website works fine.
Just a little notice, YouTube app doesn't use Flash for playback, it grabs MP4 version of a video stream, which is meant to play on mobile devices.
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I'm on CM7 Android 2.3.3 and am very happy. Not sure if it's the websites I've been on or what, but pretty much all non-HD flash works flawlessly for me. I've OCed my NookColor to 925mhz and have tried probably 5 or 6 different websites (including youtube and zomganime) Certain embeded flash players work better than others I"ve noticed, also, so not sure why that is, but so far I'm very happy. I even was running 3 flash videos (just to test it out) at once the other day, only one was choppy beyond watching. Oh I'd also like to note that it SEEMS to work better with Dolphin Browser, but that could again just be the website(s) I was on.
Sure not having a YouTube app kinda sucks, but the desktop website works fine.
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As in audio and video actually work smoothly (and are in sync)? What version of CM7 are you on?
I would like to know as well.
I'm on the latest CM7 Nightly and just installed the OC kernel. Youtube videos at 360p are playing ok now, but the audio is out of sync.
I might have to give Nookie Froyo another try. Interesting that the Youtube app works so well for you. I could have sworn that I would just get an error every time I tried to play anything.
flammenwurfer said:
Ok, I think I get it now.
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?
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Eclair does hardware video decoding but no flash. Froyo and cm7 both do flash and froyo has you tube and video harddware support. However froyo for me at least has buggy wifi and screen of death issues which made it non viable for me. Hope this helps.
From Nook Color dual boot with CM7
That does help. Thanks for the clarification.
I've heard good things about Nookie Froyoa so I will probably give that another try. I find it a little frustrating that there is not a single rom with everything working, but I know that's just the norm for hacking together roms. Oh well... Hopefully the update coming from B&N will help iron out the few issues that are left.
Honestly, most of my time will be spent reading, web browsing and playing a few games. I would just like to be able to pull up a funny video for friends every once in a while. I don't plan on watching movies or anything on it.
flammenwurfer said:
That does help. Thanks for the clarification.
I've heard good things about Nookie Froyoa so I will probably give that another try. I find it a little frustrating that there is not a single rom with everything working, but I know that's just the norm for hacking together roms. Oh well... Hopefully the update coming from B&N will help iron out the few issues that are left.
Honestly, most of my time will be spent reading, web browsing and playing a few games. I would just like to be able to pull up a funny video for friends every once in a while. I don't plan on watching movies or anything on it.
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Agreed I had thought froyo would be best compromise as it was fast had dsp and flash working, but the sleep of death and wifi connection issues led me to rebooting the thing many times/day which was a real pain.
For now I have a dual boot setup (see thread in development forum) So that I boot into eclair or CM7. This way I do most of my activities in or other rom and reboot into the other when I need say to watch a video or use stock B&N reader.....
Another thing I haven't really thought about. How does battery life compare between the roms? I seem to remember comments here and there about CM7 roms having worse battery life than froyo or stock.
I would suggest to those trying Nookie Froyo on eMMC now to try the kernel posted in post #770 of the Dalingrin kernel thread on the development forum. For myself and several others this kernel is solid and yields no wake or wifi issues whatsoever. Until a more stable interactive govenor kernel is developed this is the one I'll stick with.
glgehman said:
And with the Nook, if you have a few bucks to buy a couple of micro SD cards, you can have two or three swap-in brains that completely transform your tablet. And take them out and still have a factory fresh Nook reader. It's really kind of awesome when you think about it.
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Indeed. I'm a nooknoob but long time techie and am brimming with questions. Is that quote accurate -- that reverting to "factory fresh" state can be as simply as removing your SD card? (Because that's not the impression I've been getting; I thought you needed to do the 8 failed boots thing and/or reload ROMs.)
Hmm, guess not. I just noticed the thread titled "[HOW-TO] : Restore Nook Color back to stock EASILY".
I believe you can run most of the roms from the sd card without modifying the internal system. I don't know if you can do it without rooting though. You might have to root, then you an try roms on sd card. Someone else will have to confirm that or tell me I'm wrong , as I've not tried any of the sd card versions.

Degraded Video Playback After 1.2 Update

The developer of DVD Catalyst 4 is reporting a serious degradation in video playback with the 1.2 update. Anyone else experience this?
http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com...-2-FAIL/m-p/981754/message-uid/981754#U981754
If this is the case, and the methods discussed for blocking OTA don't work, looks like I'll be joining the legions of CM7 users. Video playback on the NC is a huge draw for me.
Unfortunately looks like I'll need a crash course. Doing some cross country traveling on May 7 and want to have a fully functional, video playback capable NC on that date.
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The developer of DVD Catalyst 4 is reporting a serious degradation in video playback with the 1.2 update. Anyone else experience this?
http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com...-2-FAIL/m-p/981754/message-uid/981754#U981754
If this is the case, and the methods discussed for blocking OTA don't work, looks like I'll be joining the legions of CM7 users. Video playback on the NC is a huge draw for me.
Unfortunately looks like I'll need a crash course. Doing some cross country traveling on May 7 and want to have a fully functional, video playback capable NC on that date.
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Its not really a quality issue, the smoothness of the video playback is affected.
After updating, the videos I already had on my NOOKcolor just looked like frames were being skipped or doubled. Its hard to describe, but they just look "off"
I tried a bunch of different conversion tools and a collection of different settings, and all resulted in similar playback issues, which basically points to an issue with the update rather than the conversion tool used.
I managed to play 3000Kbps h264 video on the NOOKcolor before the update, but now 800Kbps files have playback issues.
Testing youtube produces similar results. While I only played a few trailers from youtube, it appears quality is locked to 360, and even then I get audio sync issues.
I haven't tried the 1.2 update but I did integrate the hardware codecs from 1.2 into to CM7 and saw the same thing. For now I'm sticking with our existing codecs as they perform better.
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I haven't tried the 1.2 update but I did integrate the hardware codecs from 1.2 into to CM7 and saw the same thing. For now I'm sticking with our existing codecs as they perform better.
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some people reported that rebooting seem to fix this?
Canadoc said:
some people reported that rebooting seem to fix this?
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The developer of DVD Catalyst 4 conversion software has posted sample video files that demonstrate the degraded video quality. So I don't think a simple reboot will fix things. If it were that simple, I think he'd have figured it out, since his paychek in part depends upon the Nook Color being a decent platform for watching movies.
Sorry : Wrong Thread.
Mine worked but the selection method is key
My MP4's worked flawlessly with the new update - I ripped them from my own DVD's using DVD Catalyst 4.0 and the setting for Nook Color. BUT, they didn't work using the gallery - I had to select them using the My Files folder in the library app (I have two full length videos on emmc and two on my 8 Gb SD Card (a Transcend Class 6) - either choice worked.
I was looking at the new build.prop just now, and it's specifying a heapsize of 64M.
That seems to be very high to me. If someone's got a rooted 1.2, it might be interesting to see what manipulating the heap does for video playback. I'm still holding off on updating mine.

Crackle - Free movies and tv shows

I didn't see a thread for the Crackle app from Sony that is free in the Market. This app gives you access to a lot of free movies and television shows. I have it installed on both of my gTabs (one running VEGAn 5.1.1 and the other running CyanogenMod 7.0.3 (stable)) and it runs great. I have noticed that during some times of the day it seems that the network connection between Crackle's servers and my house come to almost a crawl. Other than that it's another great free way to watch movies and t.v. shows on our gTabs.
Can you please share the latest version of the apk, all searches outside US gives us the 1.0 version (which don't run on the gtab).
TIA
aasoror said:
Can you please share the latest version of the apk, all searches outside US gives us the 1.0 version (which don't run on the gtab).
TIA
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Here it is.
Works like a charm.
Thanks,
works here too
I just loaded it on my gTab, with Ginger Edition, and seems to work like a charm. Thanks!
chucket said:
I just loaded it on my gTab, with Ginger Edition, and seems to work like a charm. Thanks!
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I'm runnuing BOS from Roe with the latest edition and this will load and install.
Had audio for a while and no video.
Now nothing but a white screen when I hit the watch now button for Silverado which was the first movie listed.
How's this supposed to work-download the movie or is it streaming etc??
Saw a add to Que but don't know how this works.
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I'm runnuing BOS from Roe with the latest edition and this will load and install.
Had audio for a while and no video.
Now nothing but a white screen when I hit the watch now button for Silverado which was the first movie listed.
How's this supposed to work-download the movie or is it streaming etc??
Saw a add to Que but don't know how this works.
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I've never ran that ROM so I can only speak to my experience with a gTab running CM 7.0.3.
It streams the video like Netflix/Hulu/Fox TV, it doesn't download it like the BlockBuster app.
Like I said on my original post, at certain times of the day or with certain videos it seems the network connection is super slow which can lead to white or black screens with only audio as the app is trying to buffer the video. Try it when you have the best WiFi connection possible. When at home I have 12 mb downstream and it plays fine for me 90% of the time.
As for the queue, it's just that, a queue like on Hulu. It's sort of a playlist so if you have several shows or movies in your queue they will play one after the other automatically.
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I've never ran that ROM so I can only speak to my experience with a gTab running CM 7.0.3.
It streams the video like Netflix/Hulu/Fox TV, it doesn't download it like the BlockBuster app.
Like I said on my original post, at certain times of the day or with certain videos it seems the network connection is super slow which can lead to white or black screens with only audio as the app is trying to buffer the video. Try it when you have the best WiFi connection possible. When at home I have 12 mb downstream and it plays fine for me 90% of the time.
As for the queue, it's just that, a queue like on Hulu. It's sort of a playlist so if you have several shows or movies in your queue they will play one after the other automatically.
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Well I'll try again and thanks for the info.
I must say, I'm pretty unimpressed with it. Its organization is a mess, and it looks like it just has rather unpopular shows and movies on it.
I might be wrong. But it seems to me that I'm sticking with Netflix for the time being.
Some of us are too cheap to pay for Netflix.
It's still got a few decent movies on there, and Seinfield and Married w/Children are a hoot for quick watching. It's at least worth a download, even if you only watch a couple of movies and uninstall it.
Pretty awesome Running G-Harmony and watching Ghostbusters as I type this! Thanks for posting!!
Thanks OP Great App. Works great on my GTablet and Droid X phone
Radon_22 said:
Some of us are too cheap to pay for Netflix.
It's still got a few decent movies on there, and Seinfield and Married w/Children are a hoot for quick watching. It's at least worth a download, even if you only watch a couple of movies and uninstall it.
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LOL Seinfeld and MwC...what else does one need
Works great on TNT Lite 4.4
stsrep said:
I'm runnuing BOS from Roe with the latest edition and this will load and install.
Had audio for a while and no video.
Now nothing but a white screen when I hit the watch now button for Silverado which was the first movie listed.
How's this supposed to work-download the movie or is it streaming etc??
Saw a add to Que but don't know how this works.
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It sounds like Crackle is using Flash. And it's a well known issue that flash only kind of works in Bottle of Smoke. Flash will play audio but not video. Knowing this I will not bother trying to install this on my tablet which is running GTabComb (which is a 1.1 bootloader derivative of BOS). The only reason YouTube app works on BOS is because it is probably using html5 instead of flash in the app.
Could you u post the latest version?
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I would if I could find where the apk was saved to. I didn't find it in the usual \data\apps folder like all of my other apks.
Like this app. Just watched Resident Evil. Good flick.
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