when can we expect custom ROM's ??? - Click Android Development

guys, i cant wait to install custom ROM on my tattoo. i hardly congratulate those who worked really hard in getting this tattoo rooted...
but whats the real use when we cant play with this little device without exploiting it fully .....
sorry if i am humiliating all those who are actively involved in the development, but i am little more curious like rest of us. hence i am asking this question here....
roughly how long it will take to produce custom ROM after rooting a device ???

Expect an average development time between two days and one year but it might differ plus/minus 20%...
I understand your impatience but asking things that are already written elsewhere because the truth is reluctantly to believe ("nobody knows how long it will take") doesn't speed up anything! We don't write "We don't know" because we think it is funny to know more then the rest...
-bm-

Could you tell us what is needed for a custom rom? I'm new in android hacking, or mobile hacking in general. All I know is that for WinMo devices you'll need a hardSPL, application unlock and a RUU.
I think there will be less questions if we know what we're waiting for. Time is, at least for me, not really a question since there are numerous wonderful developers here and we all follow progress in the other threads.
For the tattoo we now have root access and r/w access to the file system. What else is needed? A new boot loader, a flash utility, kitchen?
I tried to find it elsewhere in the forum but information is scarce and/or scattered so it's quite hard to find out what is going on. Most information I found are howto's, but what we actually want here in this stage of development are whyto's .
Please, enlighten us

manuvaidya said:
guys, i cant wait to install custom ROM on my tattoo. i hardly congratulate those who worked really hard in getting this tattoo rooted...
but whats the real use when we cant play with this little device without exploiting it fully .....
sorry if i am humiliating all those who are actively involved in the development, but i am little more curious like rest of us. hence i am asking this question here....
roughly how long it will take to produce custom ROM after rooting a device ???
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NOT LONG....
1 month atmost... i have a good friend in ahmgsk and he just needs a buzz
and he complile what ever we needed for running the rom !
and if he do this ill maybe donate him me own tattoo donate ...naa ill post a pack for the dude with the tattoo. i guess..witch me self had for free by the way ..with the wish of me rooting it ... someone else did it .. HECK..
to late ..
THX Marsdroid

To easily flash ROMs, we'd need a S-OFF Bootloader and also a custom recovery that enables us to actually flash the ROM to the phone.
However, since HTC tried to play 'god' with our Tattoo/Click and bar off any root exploits or custom ROMs, it's tricky. We've had to play around with root, and now we've got the system partition writable, soon we can get flash_image to work.
Myself, I expect to cook a community ROM (CoburnROM 360) when we've got all the tools in place.
Online kitchen/automated tools like the Relentless Rom Roaster is a plus, but not a essential item to have on your arsenal. Real Devs use Linux and the command line!
Now, it's just a matter of playing the wait game. Dream about all the customizations in a ROM you'd like, and when the day has come (it most likely happen in the near future! ), we can plop the update.zip on the MicroSD, reboot into (custom) recovery and let the fun begin.

This is exactly the reason why I'm holding off with making root permanent on mt phone. I'll wait till everything becomes stable and more can be done with root, i.e. installing custom ROMs.

sheik_yerbouti said:
This is exactly the reason why I'm holding off with making root permanent on mt phone. I'll wait till everything becomes stable and more can be done with root, i.e. installing custom ROMs.
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Good idea. Mine at the moment is temp root, I jsut run the exploit and do the export commands to get a shell, instead of hardwriting su in my Tattoo.

is the custom ROM ready ??? i want to test it on my tattoo simultaneously i wanna root it at that time itself... so if you succeed in preparing cooked ROM, pls post it here for testing.
i will test it for you.... cant wait for its release... keeping my fingers crossed coburn.....

manuvaidya said:
is the custom ROM ready ??? i want to test it on my tattoo simultaneously i wanna root it at that time itself... so if you succeed in preparing cooked ROM, pls post it here for testing.
i will test it for you.... cant wait for its release... keeping my fingers crossed coburn.....
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The more you refuse to spend even 3 or 4 minutes to read through the forum, the longer you will have to wait for a custom ROM because you are stealing our time to develop one because we have to answer senseless posts. This time I won't post the link you are looking for because it will take you around 10 seconds to find Coburn64's thread - its just one view!
-bm-

@bm, there is no link for downloading a custom ROM buddy, i saw coburn's thread..... but there is no mention of when we can expect custom ROM.....
anyway, i thought you might be knowing the approximate date.... ok, i will wait till you receive.... dont waste your time.... carry on with your good work. i appreciate your contribution towards this project..... keep up the good work bro...

Seek and ye will find gold

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Now I have root

Hi every1,
I've just rooted my phone t-mobile(rc7) tested by turning on my phone typing enter reboot then enter which worked, now i have root is there anything i need to do before i put a rom on?
Whatis the best rom to use????
Mod edit : moved to Q&A, please post in corrrect forum.
Hi Mikey. 10
it was nice to meet you, jonnibravo
Hello, Have I done something wrong????
Look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Ccfpwc6bg
;-)
maxisma said:
Look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Ccfpwc6bg
;-)
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What is the problem, this so called community I've heard about is not much of a community is it.
There's no need for it at all.
Can someone please offer some real advice.
Ok, here is a real advice:
Please read the tutorials.
I have, but the one I am reading shows an old JF1.41 rom, when I looked at the other roms it says things like only for 36b phones ect..... It's confused me a little because tho I am amature techy I am also extra cautious and dont want to brick my phone.
Would I be ok using CyanogenMod [v3.9.7] && Palm Pre theme [1.8] ported for instance
I think the reason people are being a bit hostile is because you posted a question in the development section. That may seem OTT but there are some days when the whole first page of the development section is filled up with questions.
Before you flash a cupcake ROM (cyanogen, JF) you will need the new radio. I'm not entirely sure if you can flash that radio on RC7 or whether you will need to install a custom ROM first (like JF's RC9) so if someone could clear that up that would be useful. It can be found here. Copy that to your SD, name it update.zip and flash. Then you can flash a Cyanogen or any other cupcake ROM. That particular ROM you were talking about sounds like it was ported to the HTC Magic/Sapphire. Only flash ROMs from the dream section.
Jonnibravo said:
Would I be ok using CyanogenMod [v3.9.7] && Palm Pre theme [1.8] ported for instance
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Hi mate, I wouldnt flash 3.9.7 if you only just rooted your phone, go with the stable v3.6.8.1 first, then use Nandroid recovery to create a backup. Then worse case scenario you can always restore that image if needed.
There's a good reason 3.9.7 is marked as experimental, and there is alot to learn before attempting any Hero roms etc.
If you get stuck with anything feel free to shoot me a PM Im always around and happy to help.
Long time lurker first time poster btw
Thanks guys, I will not post in this section again and sorry to those I have upset, would hve been nice to have been simply told.
Thanks for the help.
lol that was hard as nails
maxisma said:
Look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Ccfpwc6bg
;-)
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Wow that was by far the hardest groaned I have ever seen in my few months on xda!
People are just tired of everybody posting in devolpment when there is a q and a section, and when there are 20 to 30 new threads that have already been discussed, the devolpers get annoyed. Go with the stable version of cyanogen's rom, flash the new radio image and get yourself the hard spl, not the special, if you see warnings, run very far away. Install the s a lifesaver
ahem...
I wasn't hostile before, attempting to be civil now.
You posted two questions in the development forum. The first was regarding root. There are numerous tutorials available on this forum and even more via a simple google search. I know this because I read them, learned the process inside and out and successfully rooted my phone within the first hour of owning it. So yeah, I made a joke about a hard working mod having to move your thread... no personal attack so whatever.
Your second question was an open ended request for what are basically opinions. There are a number of great custom roms being developed here on XDA and all of them are unique in their own way. Roms like HERO and Cyan's experimental rom are definitely not for newcomers and the threads posted by their developers clearly state the risks involved in attempting to run them. 15 minutes in the dev forum and you could have made an educated decision on your own. One post in Q&A and you would have gotten much friendlier responses but in the end, you'd still have to choose your own adventure.
Let me make one thing clear...
I'm not a dev. I'm an end user who tries to contribute something useful to this forum and learns a whole bunch in the process. I've offered help to many people via PM and replies in threads (as long as the discussion is on-topic) but over time I've come to the realization that simply handing out information instead of forcing you to find it on your own actually does a disservice to not only the forum, but YOU as a user. So hate on us all you want. I think you'll find that following forum rules in the future will make your experience here a happier one, and snarky comments like yours are better left un-submitted.
To answer your question: I started with JF's 1.5 rom and think it was a great way to gain exposure to the world of custom roms and root. A lot has changed since then and things have actually become a lot easier since cyanogen released his recovery image w/ nandroid and tools like switchrom came out. Its now very easy to hop between roms and there are fewer chances you'll screw something up in the process. Personally, I've been sticking with Cyanogen's roms since 3.4.6, and though there have been some bumps in the road I've had very few issues and am currently working with his 3.9 experimental builds.
Hope you get where I'm coming from, good luck to you in the future.

[Q] dump rom from phone

Hi All,
Please would someone be so kind and explain how to make a rom from a phone using anything would be good, but preferably flashable via odin
What i am asking is how to dump an I9000 rom so that I can flash it via Odin on a I900 once again, not porting just a basic dump.
i'm interrested too
Really dude? Read stickies, search, read up a ton before posting stupidly pointless threads like this. Sorry, but this is a busy forum and people like you asking baseless questions aren't a part of it.
In case you didn't know, porting ROMs from devices is extremely hard. There is progress going on porting HTC Sense from the Desire HD but it's extremely time consuming and difficult even for very experienced devs.
chambo622 said:
Really dude? Read stickies, search, read up a ton before posting stupidly pointless threads like this. Sorry, but this is a busy forum and people like you asking baseless questions aren't a part of it.
In case you didn't know, porting ROMs from devices is extremely hard. There is progress going on porting HTC Sense from the Desire HD but it's extremely time consuming and difficult even for very experienced devs.
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Did you do a search? well there is FA info at all on this topic, and I am not looking at porting a rom, i simply want to dump my rom as is as a image.
dd i guess could work, but how the hell do make it odin friendly?
"this is a busy forum and people like you asking baseless questions aren't a part of it"
you are the one !
fredapied said:
"this is a busy forum and people like you asking baseless questions aren't a part of it"
you are the one !
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Which am I, the one asking the baseless questions or the one telling others not to? =P
Dumping a ROM is definitely different than porting from another device, but the way your question stated you wanted to take a dump from another phone (Desire for example) and then magically stick that in Odin and make it work or something. Sorry for misunderstanding.
I take it you want to dump your current ROM and then publish for others to use, like Nandroid backup style? I guess that might be interesting although I'll personally stick to cooked ROMs like Docs that are ready to flash with all optimizations and changes applied at the get-go.
chambo622 said:
Which am I, the one asking the baseless questions or the one telling others not to? =P
Dumping a ROM is definitely different than porting from another device, but the way your question stated you wanted to take a dump from another phone (Desire for example) and then magically stick that in Odin and make it work or something. Sorry for misunderstanding.
I take it you want to dump your current ROM and then publish for others to use, like Nandroid backup style? I guess that might be interesting although I'll personally stick to cooked ROMs like Docs that are ready to flash with all optimizations and changes applied at the get-go.
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Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for life. Cryptic as it may be, but I guess the OP is interested in trying to make a backup.
I know samfirmware has most of the firmwares, but it would be nice to know how to create a flashable rom.
Some of us really would like to know how to do this. Samfirmwares does not have all the roms. They do not have the ntt docomo rom for japan on their site. The phone was just released the 28 October with the official 2.2 froyo rom on it. I would like to walk in the store dump the rom from their demo phone to sd card. Put the rom on my phone. I really want get my sp mode working. I have rom mananger. Does rom manager do rom dumps with the back rom option.
I agree this seems like a good idea, my bad for not understanding the Cyrptic OP lol
I don't think we get nandroid backups right now. I don't think anyone has taken a dump from a running SGS and turned it into a flashable ROM. I just know that Doc, Tatyuma and others have taken Samsung's packages and cooked them into their nice flashable zips.
chambo622 said:
I agree this seems like a good idea, my bad for not understanding the Cyrptic OP lol
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Post updated, hopefully it makes more scene now

Challenge yourself!!!

I know, if I knew how to programme and hack the software it would be a great challenge and a rush to make the new official Froyo release for Wildfire work!
So, come on all you "algorythm brainiacs"! Don't let us down! You make our days! You are the reasson, I sometimes feel like a kid who got a new toy I wished for so much!
Post the thread:" ...DO THIS...! " And let there be a solution! Bust that "status 7" error!
WE ARE DESPERATE (some of whom are probably even "housewifes" too )
We will make you a "thread-shrine" !
PLZ! Drink some coffee, don't sleep, make us proud...
What's the point of this thread?
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
Why do i always see you open so many threads, and also pointless ones?
I'm pretty sure FROYO for the htc wildfire DOES WORK...
Stupid. Unroot your phone to install OTA. Or leave the root and install custom ROM based on the latest RUU. There are plenty of them here and growing.
I´am also sure that most of our custom roms are working AND there are enough threads about installation, rooting , down / upgrades ...
You should just take a coffee or tea and some time so search the forum. I think every beginner can root and flash our lovely wildfire with the guides from that forum.

Starting to make own custroms

Hey guys, as the titel already tells you, I wanna start up making my own roms for the OB and only for myself. As soon as they are worth sharing, I will, but i am still about to learn the basics. Is there any possibility I can test a new created and already signed rom virtually on the PC? like an emulator or stuff?
I would be very pleased, if you could help me out and maybe also provide some links to guides that maybe helped you as well. Because as I said, I am willing to learn it...
do you mean like this?
http://source.android.com/source/index.html
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Main_Page
-CMIIW-
Ur fast man and thanks, but do you direktly have a link that shows how to emulate roms? As i don't have too much time these days, because of a test at university that is going to stop me from reading to much other stuff...
You can study and read a lot here -> http://developer.android.com/guide/index.html
I know my post won't help anything but i hope to see one MIUI based rom for our phone. Thanks
Sent from my LG-P970 using Tapatalk
http://www.htcmania.com/mediawiki/i..._entorno_de_trabajo_para_cocinar_para_Android
It may be obsolete and it is in Spanish ... but I hope it allows you to start ;-)
Most generic builds you do can test in android sdk once you successfully compile the rom. All you have to do is type emulator into linux terminal after your build is finished. However some will not run with it.
If you dont have time to read i would suggest waiting till you do. I have been learning for the past month and 80% of that time is reading, with the 20% going into actual hacking.
Good luck.
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium
Allright guys... so as u suggest me I guess I better wait till my tests are over and then start going through all the suggested links and I also guess I gotta improve my C++ skills a bit But is there a way to test .zip roms, which have only been modified by deleting data or adding data from other roms? Thanks very much anyway
try this one if you wanna cook something
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246

[Q] Samsung Captivate - Best ROM For Begginers...

Hey Guys...
First of all - I am Amazed by the level of this forum... Its truly great...
I am Very new to XDA. I Still managed to figure out essential things for my captivate.
I spent straight 8 to 10hrs [Approx a Month ago] reading and searching variety of threads, links and videos and got the Idea about rooting, Custom ROM, Flashing etc...
[I must Repeat - "Just Idea", Because having no real background and knowledge about anything related to these things... I obviously feel like Still Missing a lot of basic terms]...
Anyways - Point for explaining all that is to Make my 'Beginner' Level clear... B'coz Members here called as beginners are also quite good with all these basic terms...
I am using 'LANIGHT' ROM right now...
Now the problem is... There are still some bugs in this version... [Camera, SMS, etc]
So the question is:
1. The Best, latest and most stable version of ROM out there - which would be great for beginners like us? [We can have this thread for the updates of such ROM time to time] - For Us - This part seems very difficult to figure out...
2. Also the process of installing that ROM...
3. And if there is a quick way to figure out the 1st question in forum... Except spending hours just reading the threads... Very very difficult work... [Hats of to you guys...]
Thanks in advance...
ooDEWoo said:
Hey Guys...
First of all - I am Amazed by the level of this forum... Its truly great...
I am Very new to XDA. I Still managed to figure out essential things for my captivate.
I spent straight 8 to 10hrs [Approx a Month ago] reading and searching variety of threads, links and videos and got the Idea about rooting, Custom ROM, Flashing etc...
[I must Repeat - "Just Idea", Because having no real background and knowledge about anything related to these things... I obviously feel like Still Missing a lot of basic terms]...
Anyways - Point for explaining all that is to Make my 'Beginner' Level clear... B'coz Members here called as beginners are also quite good with all these basic terms...
I am using 'LANIGHT' ROM right now...
Now the problem is... There are still some bugs in this version... [Camera, SMS, etc]
So the question is:
1. The Best, latest and most stable version of ROM out there - which would be great for beginners like us? [We can have this thread for the updates of such ROM time to time] - For Us - This part seems very difficult to figure out...
2. Also the process of installing that ROM...
3. And if there is a quick way to figure out the 1st question in forum... Except spending hours just reading the threads... Very very difficult work... [Hats of to you guys...]
Thanks in advance...
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1. This question can't be answered. For many reasons but mainly because the Best ROM for you, that feels in your needs and such won't be the same as let's say, the best ROM for me. The best you can do if look at the features list and go through the last few pages of the ROM to know about the bugs/issues. There isn't a perfect ROM, just gotta find the one that suits you the best.
2. Follow the ROM's instructions in the OP (Don't forget the Gapps)
3. Refer to #1. Also, for respect for the Devs and to avoid flaming, threads like these often get closed.
Hey, we all start somewhere
Welcome and BWolf gave you some very sound advice. I've been flashing new ROMs pretty much on a daily basis this week to find the ROM that suits me the best. Enjoy flashing and playing around with different ROMs. The nice thing about this phone is that pretty much there are ways to revive it if something "happens."
Bane99 said:
Hey, we all start somewhere
Welcome and BWolf gave you some very sound advice. I've been flashing new ROMs pretty much on a daily basis this week to find the ROM that suits me the best. Enjoy flashing and playing around with different ROMs. The nice thing about this phone is that pretty much there are ways to revive it if something "happens."
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Dude hats off to you. Very correct. Even I flash ROMs almost daily. The worst thing ever happened to me was a boot loop and a home made jig saved me. Now I have a confidence that nothing can stop my phone. :thumbup:
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ooDEWoo said:
Hey Guys...
First of all - I am Amazed by the level of this forum... Its truly great...
I am Very new to XDA. I Still managed to figure out essential things for my captivate.
I spent straight 8 to 10hrs [Approx a Month ago] reading and searching variety of threads, links and videos and got the Idea about rooting, Custom ROM, Flashing etc...
[I must Repeat - "Just Idea", Because having no real background and knowledge about anything related to these things... I obviously feel like Still Missing a lot of basic terms]...
Anyways - Point for explaining all that is to Make my 'Beginner' Level clear... B'coz Members here called as beginners are also quite good with all these basic terms...
I am using 'LANIGHT' ROM right now...
Now the problem is... There are still some bugs in this version... [Camera, SMS, etc]
So the question is:
1. The Best, latest and most stable version of ROM out there - which would be great for beginners like us? [We can have this thread for the updates of such ROM time to time] - For Us - This part seems very difficult to figure out...
2. Also the process of installing that ROM...
3. And if there is a quick way to figure out the 1st question in forum... Except spending hours just reading the threads... Very very difficult work... [Hats of to you guys...]
Thanks in advance...
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Choosing a rom is a hit and trial method. Just go to captivate android development forum and choose any rom which looks good download it and flash it using recovery. Most common thing is clockwork mod recovery to install any ROM. keep flashing different roms until you find the one that suits you. Happy flashing. :thumbup:
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Avikar said:
Dude hats off to you. Very correct. Even I flash ROMs almost daily. The worst thing ever happened to me was a boot loop and a home made jig saved me. Now I have a confidence that nothing can stop my phone. :thumbup:
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I used to hold off buying a jig... until I truly needed one. Thanks to one click odin and heimdall, if anything happens, then you're always good to flash back to stock and try again
I highly recommend a jig as it can save you from a LOT of headache.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20710788&postcount=6
You can buy one or build it yourself. It's a great investment and insurance plan
Feel free to flash whatever Captivate ROM you like, just pay attention to the flashing procedures in each thread (as Bwolf said).
BWolf56 said:
1. This question can't be answered. For many reasons but mainly because the Best ROM for you, that feels in your needs and such won't be the same as let's say, the best ROM for me. The best you can do if look at the features list and go through the last few pages of the ROM to know about the bugs/issues. There isn't a perfect ROM, just gotta find the one that suits you the best.
2. Follow the ROM's instructions in the OP (Don't forget the Gapps)
3. Refer to #1. Also, for respect for the Devs and to avoid flaming, threads like these often get closed.
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Thanks...
But I will still Like to know The recent ROM - Which is stable and good for beginners Like me.
OK, start with CM10 stable.
ooDEWoo said:
Thanks...
But I will still Like to know The recent ROM - Which is stable and good for beginners Like me.
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Beginners like you? IMHO, there are lots of different beginners and you haven't shared enough for me to know what kind of beginner you are.
By recent and best, do you mean that you just want a stock ROM, perhaps rooted, but otherwise pretty much the same as the last stock release, Gingerbread KK4? It is 'recent' - because it is the latest and final official release, more recent than earlier releases.
Or do you want a ROM that is unofficial, won't be supported by your carrier or by Samsung, but that runs Jelly Bean 4.2 with an occasional bug or broken feature?
Beginner is relative to the field in question, yes? An Olympic gold medal swimming winner in his first year in medical school is a beginner at surgery,
Do you excel at really carefully reading and understanding all instructions before you start on a task?
So, if you are starting as a complete newbie, maybe go for KK4 Gingerbread and add the Corn Kernel. Get stable with that. Get comfortable making nandroid backups, and using root browsers to back up efs and other folders. get comfortable moving the files to your pc, to the external sd card, etc.
After getting all the stuff backed up with good knowledge about how to restore it all, then go flash a stable 4.1 or 4.2 jelly bean rom. you will need to flash twice. oh, and get gapps, too.
does this all sound like jibberish? read the sticky threads, read the glossaries, etc,.
If you're looking for a ROM with a lot of UI and benchmark improvements, Captivating by Sephi looks great, although I haven't tried it myself. No one here really wants to pick 1 specific ROM, because everyone is different and don't want to be rude to the dev's .
Flashing ROMs on the Captivate is fairly simple, and as others have stated if you have a jig (if you don't want to buy one pre-made, you can make your own w/o soldering, there's a guide in this forum for it), you can just play around with different ROMs and can almost always fix the phone if anything bad should happen.
Just browse XDA until you find one that you think you may like, read the reviews, and try it out for yourself
I recommended Captivating ROM by she phi.. U will not disappointed
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I consider myself a beginner and I like Cyanogenmod 10.1. I am using the nighties and I find it quite stable and easy to update.

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