I am planning on buying a HTC G1, but after I read that there is only 192mb RAM I decided to wait.
I have a few questions:
1. Can you make a swapfile on the G1?
2. Would there be a big speed/stability difference with 192 and 256 RAM?
3. How does 2.0/2.1 run compared to 1.6?
I will be using this as a PDA, not a phone and will be doing lots of gaming and web browsing on it.
Thank you,
~moonscapex
Buy a Nexus......
I would, but I can't afford one
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I would, but I can't afford one
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save up for one. Don't get a g1, it's already too outdated. save up and buy a good phone that'll last a while. By the time you have the money tucked away I'm sure you'll see phones even better than the nexus one.
Yes, I already have a high-end winmo PDA, so I am looking for a lower end Android phone.
I agree with others that say to get a different phone. I love my G1 to death, but there's no way I'd buy one today if I were in the market. It's just too limited.
That said, I'll try and answer your questions.
1. Yes, running swap is possible using a rooted phone and custom ROM. It's debated whether this actually helps any.
2. The 192 vs. 256 MB difference helps a great deal. There's just not a lot of memory left to run many apps and do much task switching on the newer iterations of the OS with only 192MB. The number of apps you can install is also limited by this number (unless you're running a rooted phone and installing apps to your SD card.)
3. On a G1, 2.0/2.1 is pretty slow. At this point I wouldn't use it as a daily use ROM.
The two functions you listed as your primary activities are the two things that the G1 does the worst. It's underpowered for a lot of games (not to mention the horrible battery life when you start playing games) and browsing the web can be a chore given the limited memory and CPU. It works great for basic things like email, maps/navigation, music, productivity apps, but it's pretty slow for other stuff.
OK, thank you. That is the kind of answer I was looking for. I will look into some other phones.
The G1 is ideal for what your looking for. Man people love to drift off don't they
Yeah they do...
Has anyone else tried Android 2.1 on their G1?
If you root it, in addition to the debatable swapping to the SD for more ram and cache, you can overclock the things. Probably a bit hard on your battery and might generate unacceptable heat, don't know. You might just get it up to 2/3's to 3/4th's the speed of a Nexus for the cost of a bigger battery. Maybe then you could run 2.1 effectively. Who knows.
I'd buy it used. They go for about $175 on ebay unlocked. If you screw it up you've not lost that much. You can resell your broken one on ebay for about $75
Regards, PK
Overall the G1 for me has just been fun to root and flash multiple roms. =P Some roms are moderately fast, but are limited to games as we have no video drivers
Thanks for the good answers. So the Open GL drivers are not available on the G1? And how easy is it to brick a G1. Ive flashed many roms on winmo with no problem.
EDIT: Yes I will overclock. Are the Vid drivers available on the Magic?
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Thanks for the good answers. So the Open GL drivers are not available on the G1? And how easy is it to brick a G1. Ive flashed many roms on winmo with no problem.
EDIT: Yes I will overclock. Are the Vid drivers available on the Magic?
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Yeah they are
Personally
I preordered a G1... rooted it early in the beginnings of Haykuro and JF... and 16 months later I still say there isnt a replacement... I got a full upgrade and I still havent taken advantage... The N1 is nice, if you can live wo the hard keyboard... If you want a low end android, the G1 is a good starter phone...
I run both 2.1 and 1.6 roms.. The 1.6 roms are really fast, The 2.1 roms are worth having on your phone to show off... I can stream music on 3G from 8am to about 230-3pm at work on either so batt life is fine either way on a normal day...
I dont know what kind of gaming you do, but my old school emulators do the trick nicely run on any rom and with the hard keyboard controls are great... I use a ram hack that removes the 3d accelerator for another 8mb of usable ram, so I cant comment on 3d games...
Bricking a G1 is almost impossible now with all the good tutorials... the G1 is the easiest to root, hack, flash, customize... all that in my own eyes... Ive brought noobs down the rabbit hole and now they are cookin up roms and themes like crazy...
I on the other hand still patiently wait for a new bigger better stronger phone (with a hard keyboard) to replace my G1 and I know it will not be in the low end android bracket..
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Overall the G1 for me has just been fun to root and flash multiple roms. =P Some roms are moderately fast, but are limited to games as we have no video drivers
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My setiments exactly. Hate to say it but it's just fun to see or learn somthing new.
Good thread for Android noobes.
Regards, PK
So far I'm convinced about the G1, thanks everybody. When I found out that the keyboard on the magic would not work with a stylus, and only your fingers, it made it obvious for me.
PS: Can you disable the RAM hack without reflashing?
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So far I'm convinced about the G1, thanks everybody. When I found out that the keyboard on the magic would not work with a stylus, and only your fingers, it made it obvious for me.
PS: Can you disable the RAM hack without reflashing?
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Not really. You must replace the kernel, so it's basically just as complicated as reflashing.
I'ts simple.
Flash the boot.img and reboot.
All gone.
(and vice versa)
you wont loose any data or anything.
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I was just about to buy Kaiser when I came accros this issue with video drivers. Was this sorted out or shoud I start looking for alternative pda?
I think we all love it but for some of its pains. You could get a touch pro; very good by the looks of things.
or an xperia
There's been some improvement with www.HTCClassaction.org. It's nice, but doesn't fix it all.
My recommendation has always been to go into the Cell Providers Store and use the Kaiser. Get a feel for it. If you like it buy it. If not put it down and pick up another phone to try.
I'm actually surprised how much the video drivers or lack there of has been a prolbem for me.
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My recommendation has always been to go into the Cell Providers Store and use the Kaiser. Get a feel for it. If you like it buy it. If not put it down and pick up another phone to try.
I'm actually surprised how much the video drivers or lack there of has been a prolbem for me.
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I don't know if the store experience is really what you should use to rate the phone, because you would only see it in stock ROM.... I think custom rom is much better and faster, inorder to experience that, you need to buy it... Can't you buy it, try it out for couple of days, and return it if you don't like it?
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I don't know if the store experience is really what you should use to rate the phone, because you would only see it in stock ROM.... I think custom rom is much better and faster, inorder to experience that, you need to buy it... Can't you buy it, try it out for couple of days, and return it if you don't like it?
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Yes I bet you could try it thgat way. I'm simply talking about holding it in your hands and getting a tactile feel for the device. You don't buy a baseball mitt that doesn't feel right in your hands do you. And also with stock ROMs you can get a feel for the workings. I guess I should have clarified that point.
Realize that by trying it out in the store you are running a Stock ROM, cooked ROMs and exponentially better in performance. (Wow this is the first time I got to use the word "exponentially" since I learned it in High School.)
All i can say is stay away from anything with a qualcomm process, later this year and next year there will be many devices released with different processors other than qualcomm.
newb here but, what does the video drivers do exactly, ive used my friends original, non upgraded htc tytn2 and it didnt seem that bad. what would the drivers improve, just the speed or somethig?
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newb here but, what does the video drivers do exactly, ive used my friends original, non upgraded htc tytn2 and it didnt seem that bad. what would the drivers improve, just the speed or somethig?
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That's exactly my point!
Apparently it makes Doom run slow.... But I don't care to play games on a 2.8" screen.
I have to agree with Jimmy. I use for my tilt for mainly messing around on the net when I'm bored or playing some small time games, no emulators or nothing. I thoroughly enjoy my device especially with all the help and fixes from here on XDA. I do feel that the drivers issues need to be fixed because a majority of users were misled... However depending on what you use it for the lack of drivers isnt that big a deal. Hell I like mine so much Ive pretty much kept it stock(no flashing of ROMS)
If you are getting it at a provider discount, go for it. Can't go wrong at that price point for AT&T for example. It's still an amazing high end phone, especially if you do Custom ROM.
First, I did a search on this and did not find the answers i wanted; so mods, please delete/move this thread if you don't approve - thanks
My question is pretty much in the title of this thread... I know the specs, but the amount of RAM/Memory after the phone runs its default processes and apps is obviously much different than what's stated on the fact sheet.
So, how much RAM and internal memory does the sprint touch diamond have after it's powered on straight out of the box with touchflo3d enabled?? Also, how much RAM if touchflo is disabled? I will be upgrading my mogul soon, so I'd like to know what I'm working with.
Please post any useful info, thanks in advance!
it doesnt matter you will hate the stock rom so bad. (its got **** all for spacke with all the sprint crap on it and its slow as hell) that you will flash a custom rom very shortly after your realize this.
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it doesnt matter you will hate the stock rom so bad. (its got **** all for spacke with all the sprint crap on it and its slow as hell) that you will flash a custom rom very shortly after your realize this.
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I have to disagree. While yes it is full of bloat, of the custom roms I've ran (/made) it was by far the most stable. I didn't have it freeze at all over the course of a week, while with the custom ones, there was almost an immediate problem I found within the first hour of playing with them.
All we need is a nice clean sprint rom to remove a lot of the bloat, and it will be a great place to start, just with all the sprint crap on it, there isn't much storage space. And to comment on it being "slow" all the roms seem about the same speed, I wouldn't say its much slower at all.
To top it off, personally I like the sprint theme more than any other (just needed the flip clock to be perfect which you can download a cab for that).
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I have to disagree. While yes it is full of bloat, of the custom roms I've ran (/made) it was by far the most stable. I didn't have it freeze at all over the course of a week, while with the custom ones, there was almost an immediate problem I found within the first hour of playing with them.
All we need is a nice clean sprint rom to remove a lot of the bloat, and it will be a great place to start, just with all the sprint crap on it, there isn't much storage space. And to comment on it being "slow" all the roms seem about the same speed, I wouldn't say its much slower at all.
To top it off, personally I like the sprint theme more than any other (just needed the flip clock to be perfect which you can download a cab for that).
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hate to burst your bubble, but if your getting freezing on the custom roms as opposed to the sprint one its something your doing or you have not hard reset after flashing. Juicy's sprint rom is exactly what you just described. its got all the crap removed. and some speed tweaks. its about 10x faster then the sprint rom or the telus stock rom with better then stock battery life.
again i say, your smoking the bong pipe and u need to put it down for a few and actually test my friend because any one here is going to disagree with your statement i bold'd above. I went back to the telus rom last night to test and was disgusted by the slowness. i became accustomed to my custom rom.
good cooked roms are much much better than stock roms IMHO
i have flashed a fair few and the bets ones do not freeze on me at all they have less memory leak and run faster as well as being leaner and get the best out of the phone ;0)
flash and flash some more, have fun see for yourself, but be safe
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good cooked roms are much much better than stock roms IMHO
i have flashed a fair few and the bets ones do not freeze on me at all they have less memory leak and run faster as well as being leaner and get the best out of the phone ;0)
flash and flash some more, have fun see for yourself, but be safe
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i agree.
when my device boots it has 144 MB free ram. that's an ass load more then the telus rom.
144mb FREE ram?
you're sure you mean rAm not rOm (even then it would be very much)
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144mb FREE ram?
you're sure you mean rAm not rOm (even then it would be very much)
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yes im sure, remember i have 256mb of ram you poor GSM guys only have 128
this back and forth dialogue about different ROMs is quite amusing, but I just want to know how much RAM out of the box - even with all of sprint's unnecessary features and what not. I'm just trying to see how much we actually get to play with. With the mogul, I had about 25-26mbs free out of the box of the 64 total. I know the diamond surpasses that minuscule amount greatly, but like i said, i just wanna know how much we're actually getting...
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yes im sure, remember i have 256mb of ram you poor GSM guys only have 128
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okay sry, my fault
wasn't around for a while ;-)
Is it worth me taking a new dream from Tmobile UK and rooting it to get a Hero ROM so I can have the new UI ??
Are there any problems with the ROM ?? that would stop it being used day to day ? also is it worth trading googlemail push for Microsoft Active Sync for Exchange which I used before on my WM device. ??
Hero is a port from a device with higher specs so to run on a g1, there will be a noticeble inherit slowness. I believe you will still have gmail on a hero rom though. For day to day use I would use a cyanogen rom. If you do want to run hero, you will need to partion your sd card into 3 partions, hero also has problems missing text, no bluetooth and no led notiifacations
Thankyou
Sounds pretty much like its not worth it then shame cause i love the dream QWERTy keyboard trying to type emails with on screen keyboard is a nightmare.
are there any screen shots of this ROM you mentioned ? What is good about this ROM ?
I just got the Dream yesterday it was supposed to be a Hero but they sent the wrong phone and offered me line rental discount if i kept it.
I just not sure if I should send it back and get hero.
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Sounds pretty much like its not worth it then shame cause i love the dream QWERTy keyboard trying to type emails with on screen keyboard is a nightmare.
are there any screen shots of this ROM you mentioned ? What is good about this ROM ?
I just got the Dream yesterday it was supposed to be a Hero but they sent the wrong phone and offered me line rental discount if i kept it.
I just not sure if I should send it back and get hero.
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it depends on how much you want the physical keyboard. personally i wouldn't be able to give it up. the cyanogen rom he mention looks like a stock rom unless you theme. sorry don't know where i can get stock screen shot right now. you can probably google it though.
Go over the devolpment sub-forum and go into cyanogenmod thread, you can see screnshots there, go witht the stable version which is 4.04, basiclly the feel and look of a stock rom but optimize for performance, it is the top rom for speed and stabilty at the moment. You can also download the cm updater from the market to stay on top of updates and a easy way to flash for now on. But make sure you make a nandroid backup for a just in case cause every once in a while you can get a bad download. Highly suggest also flashing cyanogen's pimped out recovery 1.4
Thanks for the info I might just hold off for a while and see how I go with stock ROM although I suspect I need to do something cause i am struggling to find any widgets that I want to use on the phone as standard
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Thanks for the info I might just hold off for a while and see how I go with stock ROM although I suspect I need to do something cause i am struggling to find any widgets that I want to use on the phone as standard
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im pretty sure you could find a g1/dream on ebay or somewhere fairly cheap so if you can i would get the hero and have the g1 i mean i am buying a practically brand new g1 from a friend that is rooted with the 1.33.2005 spl for $100 maybe i just got really lucky.
You got lucky, I just got mine from t-mobile for 150 with a new 2 year contract, so hopefully my g1 won't be extremely out of date and unsupported by then. At least by then there should be a new android phone with a snapdragon or tegra processor with 500mb ram and a pyshical keyboard which will blow away the g1 and even hero. Who knows by then we might have full graphic support with some cool ass games. Just hope we can get some better battery life by then
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Thanks for the info I might just hold off for a while and see how I go with stock ROM although I suspect I need to do something cause i am struggling to find any widgets that I want to use on the phone as standard
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actually gridlock is pretty much wrong.
bluetooth doesnt work but i dont need it so i can live without it. LEDs dont fully work. it shines green whenever i get something new,but it doesnt blink.
missing text only exist is some hero roms... in JACs 1.6r2a , sms works fine. there is a slowness when compared to other cupcake builds, but hero runs pretty fast in my opinion. just cyanogens cupcake builds run faster.
i really like the sense ui and included widgets. multitouch is nice. and watching youtube in High quality over a 3g network is wonderful.
i love using the twitter widget. its soo useful. i only use twitter to follow devs,android news,tmonews, and new ROM news. so its easy to keep track of what the devs are doing and releasing
also i enjoy using my phone as a wifi access point, so i can use my laptop anywhere i go.
there is lag at times,but its not like SUPER SLOW. and you cant open the keyboard while at the homescreen. u just cant yet. but in apps u can.
isn't there hero free from tmobile uk with a contract? or was that only for a while back? i remember seeing it when it was released. i would definitely get the hero then just buy a g1 off ebay or something. then just alternate between the 2. also it would take a large discount for me to keep the g1.
don't get me wrong i love my g1 but it would be easier to buy a g1 that it would be to buy a hero, just my opinion.
Ok so how do you figure I am wrong, you just backed up what I said, ok so you get your led to shine but it is still not correctly working, you backed up what I said about it being slower, I was saying hardware wise, and you backed up saying that some hero roms miss texts. Can you run your hero without swap or compchace without having a significant difference, I don't think so. Yes hero roms are getting better but in all reality how was I pretty much wrong when you said the same thing in nicer terms. Just out of curiosity. I think it just comes down to a matter of opinion
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Ok so how do you figure I am wrong, you just backed up what I said, ok so you get your led to shine but it is still not correctly working, you backed up what I said about it being slower, I was saying hardware wise, and you backed up saying that some hero roms miss texts. Can you run your hero without swap or compchace without having a significant difference, I don't think so. Yes hero roms are getting better but in all reality how was I pretty much wrong when you said the same thing in nicer terms. Just out of curiosity. I think it just comes down to a matter of opinion
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"hero also has problems missing text, no bluetooth and no led notiifacations"
jacs hero 1.6r2a has no sms issues. the ones that have sms issues are the one thats older and outdated, or the new hero roms that hasnt been optimized.
LED notifications exist. just not as good as cupcake, but they are there.
its late and i dont feel like arguing with u. hero does have lag compared to cupcakes builds,but its not major
i say get the hero and than get a g1 i got one from craigslist practically new without contract for 130=D
Just been looking down the specs
The Dream and Hero are pratically the same apart from the memory and camera.
Not really to bothered by the camera anyways I got a 12mp camera if i want a photo. The video on the Hero is poor anyways. The only thing id be paying for is widgets at the expense of a full keyboard of the dream.
I suspect the increase in ROM and RAM is only to allow the Hero to run the Sense UI interface.
I think im going to stick with the dream.....
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The Dream and Hero are pratically the same apart from the memory and camera.
Not really to bothered by the camera anyways I got a 12mp camera if i want a photo. The video on the Hero is poor anyways. The only thing id be paying for is widgets at the expense of a full keyboard of the dream.
I suspect the increase in ROM and RAM is only to allow the Hero to run the Sense UI interface.
I think im going to stick with the dream.....
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i would trade you a dream rooted with 1.33.2005 spl and like 150 or 200 dollars for the hero lol
I thought I had 512MB of ram on this. I opened task killer and it says 117mb free. Surly Android isn't using all of the other ram?
There is a small bug/issue with the stock Android o/s even 2.1 suffers from this.
With the mod/kernel I use below I can get up to about 275mb right after a fresh app task wipe. Then closer to 200-220mb when under normal use which is pretty good.
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I thought I had 512MB of ram on this. I opened task killer and it says 117mb free. Surly Android isn't using all of the other ram?
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You need to install a kernel that utilizes highmem. Basically, the easiest way to achieve this is to install a rom which has this by default (cyanogen is a popular option).
It's busy doing what it was put in the phone to do.
The other half hasn't woken up yet.
what they are saying is that google has not yet enabled the other half of the nexus one's RAM yet. so the stock nexus one only has half of the 512MB active, which is 256MB. so some of the custom ROMS, when rooted and installed, open up that additional RAM, giving the full 512MB.
who knows why google did this. maybe they thought it was a battery saving issue and that 256MB was plenty for users. or maybe they have some surprise in store for the nexus and will open it up in an upcoming OTA update.
This is a huge disappointment. I can't root because I can't risk breaking my nexus I paid the full price for it!
paid full wack for mine also, but hey what the heck, rooted and stuff as soon as it came through the door.
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This is a huge disappointment. I can't root because I can't risk breaking my nexus I paid the full price for it!
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I paid full price for mine too and my wife's N1. You wont brick your phone unless you screw up a Radio flash for the most part.
So either get comfortable with it and flash everything you want, just flash to a new modded o/s or just leave your phone alone and wait for Google.
In the end you do have to be comfortable knowing your warranty could be in jeopardy though. I have heard some cases of HTC still fixing hardware defects on rooted phones.
Ahhh I want to, I really do, but I so much don't want to break this
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This is a huge disappointment. I can't root because I can't risk breaking my nexus I paid the full price for it!
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This has been well discussed at length, and has been one of the bashing points used by the fan boys.
Besides that, the info in here is a bit wrong. It isn't set at 256MB, it is more like just shy of 400 IIRC, want to say 388 to be exact.
Also, have you noticed a lack of RAM yet? You say you still have 100MB free? Well, that is pretty damn good to say the least. Do you really need another 100MB of RAM sitting there doing nothing?
And it isn't a bug either... grrrr... it is because the Kernel's that do support the extra RAM were not stable enough at launch. Can you imagine what sort of uproar there would have been from people if their phone jsut randomly rebooted once every couple days? Maybe even once a day?
You're right. The lowest I've been to is 30mb free, when I was running around 7 apps. I'll just wait for the official google fix
before rooting, task killer would only free up about 70mb, i think. don't quite remember. now, after rooting and flash to enom's rom, task panel can free up around 260mb
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before rooting, task killer would only free up about 70mb, i think. don't quite remember. now, after rooting and flash to enom's rom, task panel can free up around 260mb
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That's because you're killing services and apps that don't need to be kill and actually have a negative impact on loading speeds.
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You're right. The lowest I've been to is 30mb free, when I was running around 7 apps. I'll just wait for the official google fix
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There you go! It is one of those things, when you notice your numbers are too "low" you are like what the heck? But until you saw the numbers, you never thought to yourself "man I wish I had more RAM since this thing is slow and can't multi-task my apps right".
I ran bone stock for the first month I had my Nexus One, never said once to myself I wish it was faster or had more RAM, ok that is a lie I always want faster, but never once was I honestly sitting there saying that because the phone was so slow.
I did finally root and start flashing (a month without flashing is a REALLY long time for me, longest I have ever owned a smartphone without flashing). And to be honest, despite what some may say, the custom ROMs really are not that much faster, and it matters about the kernel more than anything. And actually, I run into lag at times with custom ROMs that are not there with the stock ROM, granted some tasks are a bit quicker, I have themese, and what not to make up for it. None the less, speed and stability can co-exist, but you have to give up one for the other in general.
just root the thing and move on with life... ive got news for you... if you drop the thing on concrete and shatter the screen, HTC doesnt care whether its rooted or not... YOU BROKE IT YOU FIX IT
my car has like 50,000 mile warranty on it, but im pretty sure if i pour jet fuel into it instead of gasoline and I blow my block, the dealership is going to laugh at me and my warranty even if my car only has 200 miles on it...
root it and take care of it... its really not that hard...
I have installed the SDK and Eclipse. I have created an AVD and run through the little tutorial. I can start the emulator using the (windows) command line. How do I run a "cooked" ROM in the emulator? If there is a better place to post this question, please let me know. I am particularly interested in the Hero (CDMA, Sprint).
The sdk emulator emulates an older ARMv5. I for one don't think it's very practical for developing custom roms on but it has been done before. I remember hearing a couple people saying they had Sense UI running on it. Cool but kind of pointless if you ask me. Anyways:
http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/tools/emulator.html
has just about all the info you'll need to do it.
Speaking of emulators. I merged zen and emulator to get my name zenulator back when I messed around with console emulators for the ps1 and dreamcast. Before android took over
Zenulator,
Thanks for responding. That's exactly the page I was using. Can I simply replace userdata.img with the boot.img from the ROM? I'm just curious to see what the various ROM's will look and act like. (I do not yet have a smartphone; I've got a stupid one. My wife promised my a new phone when she upgrades hers, and the Hero looks really good to me.)
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Zenulator,
Thanks for responding. That's exactly the page I was using. Can I simply replace userdata.img with the boot.img from the ROM? I'm just curious to see what the various ROM's will look and act like. (I do not yet have a smartphone; I've got a stupid one. My wife promised my a new phone when she upgrades hers, and the Hero looks really good to me.)
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Ah I see. I'd get the evo if your planning on buying a new smart phone.
Also no you cant just swap out parts from the roms postrd in the forums since the emulator runs off a yaffs system image and also it doesn't run a boot.img. It uses a separate kernel and ramdisk.
Zenulator,
Thanks again, particularly for preventing me from wasting my time over an impossible task. One cannot help lusting over the EVO. However, I carry my phone in my pocket, and the EVO might be a bit too big for that. Furthermore, I don't really use a phone all that much, so it's hard to justify the extra expense. I have suggested to my wife that she get one.
Are there any other emulators or virtualization techniques I might use to display a ROM's function on a computer monitor? Do those guys who create the ROMs simply try them out on their own phones, or do they have software which will allow them to first test their creations on the computer? I fiddle with Linux, and have used VMWare under Windows and Linux. Took a stab at Zen once, but didn't have the right hardware.
just an idea.. It wouldnt be hands on but you could youtube the different roms and see what they look like
Furthermore, I don't really use a phone all that much, so it's hard to justify the extra expense.
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Aw man, you would sooo use your phone 300x more if you had a smart phone of any kind, though I'm partial to Android ; ) . I can't remember what i did before my first BB.... Ahhhhh the memories.
Easily justifiable expense. LOL
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I used my phone like 20 minutes total throughout the day when I had a dumbphone.
My Hero gets used and abused hours each day.
You all are preaching to the choir! I want a new phone so bad that I can taste it. I've been scouring the forums, learning as much as I can, and I can hardly wait. The Hero looks just right for me, and I'm really looking forward to using an open file system. It looks like Sprint will be dropping the Hero soon (price is going down) and replacing it with a "Hero 2," apparently essentially the same thing as the htc Legend. We'll see. Anyone heard any other news?
I probably play more on my phone than I text or talk, but don't regret paying $25 more a month than I was with MetroPCS. I can't see myself paying nearly $100 a month just for the Evo as I am on a plan by myself.
This is not completly on topic, but there is the Android OS for computers. You think I could take the kernal and ramdisk, etc from the Hero and swap it out with the ones from the Android OS
http://gadgets.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Run-Google-039-s-Android-OS-On-Your-Windows-PC-3897-01.html
&RoidRage,
Thanks for the link. I followed it out and downloaded the complete iso. I will look inside it and play with it, maybe live, maybe virtualized. It might be fun to see if some components can be swapped out, though I doubt it will work.
Dual processors running at 1.5 GHz seems overkill for a cell phone, but then, that's why we're here.
Hi all
I'm trying to load a ROM into the emulator, how can I do that ?
Kcarpenter said:
Aw man, you would sooo use your phone 300x more if you had a smart phone of any kind, though I'm partial to Android ; ) . I can't remember what i did before my first BB.... Ahhhhh the memories.
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seriously, my dumbphone was on like 20 minutes a day
and my hero is overused easily (especially in class)
how i run roms that dont have the system.img ?