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A european Blackstone XDA Event?

Hi to All,
I am just wondering if anybody would be interested in joining a real event where we could meet somewhere in europe (Geneva? quite central and well served by cheap low-fare flights).
We could meet for one weekend, for example, and the meeting could be focused to BXD: Blackstone Xda Developers!
the entrance ticket is quite obvious: the touch HD with a non-official ROM!
...ad maybe somebody could develop some nice apps for BT identification?
I post this thread here because i think it should be a targeted event, not a general public happening. I wonder if we could also get some support from HTC or some local media, for example to rent a meeting place. Maybe we could even make a few contests and share some acknowledgements, but these are just few ideas.
...Please post your opinions!
EDIT: for your information, the poll is "in clear" e.g clicking on the numbers you can see individual names...of course, it is not binding!

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Sounds good,
But XDA is going down words...
So don't think I'm in the mood to meet some haters here....
Still a good idea.

xmoo said:
Sounds good,
But XDA is going down words...
So don't think I'm in the mood to meet some haters here....
Still a good idea.
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Hi Xmoo,
we all have different opinions, i would be surprised if intelligent people would not understand each other point. I am not a moderator, but i didn't see any heavy personal offense - i know that some moderators are really very keen on that...

pzucchel said:
Hi Xmoo,
we all have different opinions, i would be surprised if intelligent people would not understand each other point. I am not a moderator, but i didn't see any heavy personal offense - i know that some moderators are really very keen on that...
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Well it's nothign personal.
I'm talking bout the no share issue.
I'm talking bout the android issue.
I'm talking bout the issue that many rom coockers are planning to leave.
One of my best friends and a long time member of XDA is planning to leave.
He is also a moderator... so.....
But on topic.
I would wanna go tho.
Geneva sounds good. So we can also see the car show

i like the idea, and had you suggested it a few years back then it would probably have been a big hit, but id like to echo the words above, some moderators have serious issues on here, the site is beginning to lose its self and its consistancy the admins dont appear to take any notice and let their mods run riot, even members seem to demand everything and give nothing,
Ive stopped my donations for my own reasons, i doubt i will continue unless things improve, at the mo id would rather support the individual programer than the whole community which is shame.
Still its a nice idea, but poor timing im afraid.

xmoo said:
Well it's nothign personal.
I'm talking bout the no share issue.
I'm talking bout the android issue.
I'm talking bout the issue that many rom coockers are planning to leave.
One of my best friends and a long time member of XDA is planning to leave.
He is also a moderator... so.....
But on topic.
I would wanna go tho.
Geneva sounds good. So we can also see the car show
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Off Topic: XDA is a container, as well as a real-life event. We are all civilized persons, and i am sure we could format different opinions into a real and pacific confrontations.
On topic: unfortunately, during the car show you cannot find lodging in the radius of 50 km....and becomes quite expensive.
I don't want to make any advertisement, but check for prices on www.easyjet.com from your place to Geneva and you'll realize it is one of the cheapest places to reach in Europe! Maybe London or Amsterdam are alternatives...

dazza9075 said:
i like the idea, and had you suggested it a few years back then it would probably have been a big hit, but id like to echo the words above, some moderators have serious issues on here, the site is beginning to lose its self and its consistancy the admins dont appear to take any notice and let their mods run riot, even members seem to demand everything and give nothing,
Ive stopped my donations for my own reasons, i doubt i will continue unless things improve, at the mo id would rather support the individual programer than the whole community which is shame.
Still its a nice idea, but poor timing im afraid.
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It is becoming quite a religious thing. To avoid what religions have been doing in the past, maybe an ecumenic event could help?
On my side, i moderate my signature - you are both right in saying that increasing the temperature doesn't help ourselves.

pzucchel said:
Off Topic: XDA is a container, as well as a real-life event. We are all civilized persons, and i am sure we could format different opinions into a real and pacific confrontations.
On topic: unfortunately, during the car show you cannot find lodging in the radius of 50 km....and becomes quite expensive.
I don't want to make any advertisement, but check for prices on www.easyjet.com from your place to Geneva and you'll realize it is one of the cheapest places to reach in Europe! Maybe London or Amsterdam are alternatives...
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Baa forget London its cheaper for most folk to get to the south of france and stay a few nights then it is to fly an hour in London, besides Scotlands better!

i am new here since i ve own a blackstone.. but without xda? htc would be nothing for me..
i am very interested in a meeting.. also i am more a computer geek (admin of very independent pctreiber.net) i am really interested in learning and in xda stuff, i really like it here and appreciate a lot. i have no negative opinion about xda, for sure.
meeting:
would be really nice.. and a place to learn and meet.. like a wordcamp (wordpress)

Sounds like a ssplendid idea... Will definitely think about it

i am really interested and will try everything to take part.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483612

dazza9075 said:
Still its a nice idea, but poor timing im afraid.
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There may be issues right now, with many people disillusioned, but I like pzucchel's style in bringing forward something so positive to the table. That's only to be commended and can only help to recover the spirit that is seen to be lost! Good on ya!

Count me in and it's 100% if it is London
Nice Idea (creative and constructive) - we need people like you here pzucchel - good man!

Schooleydoo said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483612
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Thanks Schooleydoo, i didn't know about it!
First of all, i would like to clarify that this is just a proposal for discussion and reflection. I personally hate "organizers" jumping on top of spontaneous events to get some personal benefits in terms of recognition and reputation, and i can tell you for sure i don't have any of these targets. But there is a large number of nice people here, and people that i respect a lot even if they have opinions different from mines....that i would like to meet in person.
(including Dutty if you really want to spell it out! He is a great cook, nobody should forget that he always shared a big number of his achievements by making cabs that were used by many other roms, freely...it must be just a big misunderstanding...right Dutty?)
...sorry, Back to topic:
Seeing the number of possible attendees after 12 hours of posting already of the order of 50, i would personally argue to restrict it to the blackstone device only, for three reasons:
1. Even if there is a lot to share technically, it could well be that we have never had contacts with people from other devices. and the interest in meeting will become restricted to social groups "per device".
2. It should be, in my opinion, mainly a social event. Technical matters can be easily discussed on the forum, in fact. And to be a useful social event we would need to be less than 100 or so, to be able to meet each other and say at least 2 words in 48 hours to people that we don't know a lot, but that we could know during our forum activity!
3. Parallel sessions is, in my opinion, a mistake. if we have a single session we could easily broadcast it on internet, and allow our asian and australian and american friends (those without CDMA support! ) to be part of the event. We are ONE community, don't forget! i would love to meet our viet friends also! but we could have webcam attendants, no?
In my opinion, the best number of attendes should be below 120. Of course it should be an OPEN event (Yes we share! ) , but we should try to target a manageable number, in terms of logistics and social aspects. Any other comments or opinions?
I alread imagine meeting a 15 year old guy with the badge "Schooleydoo"...
By the way: did anybody notice that apparently techno geeks are all males? or this is a demonstration of biological superiority or somebody is cheating...
(this to attract more attendees!!! )

hey.. of course i will take my girlfriend (n73me) with me to this event/party/meeting.. its not a wordcamp, its an xdacamp and sure a great idea and happening. i agree your words full!

question to all... please read

Hay guys, I am wondering... I would like to start a new blog, but I do not know what about. I don't want another phone site, I was thinking a car blog or an online deals blog... I am not sure. Any ideas guys?
I will also need some editors that would like to work on this new blog, and depending on the xperiance.. I could pay

Wen(WM) said:
Hay guys, I am wonderibg... I would like to start a new blog, but I do not know what about. I don't want another phone site, I was thinking a car blog or an online deals blog... I am not sure. Any ideas guys?
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What are your interests? What do you like?

Ill get people that are interested in the subject to be the editors and like work on the site... so my interest doesn't matter

A car blog would be cool. A deals blog may be a bit too involved .. unless your just posting deals and not necessarily selling or buy things on your blog site. Are you looking to have other people post on it or just strictly byou blogging?
I have 2 blogs myself.
Strangethingsinajax.blogspot.com (basically just wierd or interesting news from around the city i live in but not limited too)
TheSourceSports.blogspot.com (sports rumours and news with a twist)
Both are kinda new but its a cool way to write about stuff.. just goes to show you can write about anything that interests you... u just need an idea. I just recently started writing about the whole rogers mandatory fiasco.. I even created a facebook group for it!

A blog with random secrets and tips. Most people don't know that clicking with the middle button in Firefox opens a new tab or that the F2 key renames files in Windows Explorer or that holding the power button then the middle button on the iPhone can reset the device or force close an application.

Cars, for sure.

stillriza said:
A car blog would be cool. A deals blog may be a bit too involved .. unless your just posting deals and not necessarily selling or buy things on your blog site. Are you looking to have other people post on it or just strictly byou blogging?
I have 2 blogs myself.
Strangethingsinajax.blogspot.com (basically just wierd or interesting news from around the city i live in but not limited too)
TheSourceSports.blogspot.com (sports rumours and news with a twist)
Both are kinda new but its a cool way to write about stuff.. just goes to show you can write about anything that interests you... u just need an idea. I just recently started writing about the whole rogers mandatory fiasco.. I even created a facebook group for it!
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I PMed you... and it seems the Car blog is becoming the winner here... and I dont sell anything, so no, just like deals from everywhere on the web, because there is no site that does that.. like a central blog that tells you all the deals and stuff.
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A blog with random secrets and tips. Most people don't know that clicking with the middle button in Firefox opens a new tab or that the F2 key renames files in Windows Explorer or that holding the power button then the middle button on the iPhone can reset the device or force close an application.
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I dont think I would really want to do that... but thanks for the idea
fiktion said:
Cars, for sure.
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Ya, it seems people like that instead

I voted for fashion, but, then your reader base would be limited. So....CARS!

Cars is good (though it depends on what kind of cars of course). Maybe racing orientated (and by that I don't mean F1, but the "proper" stuff like LMS, ALMS or V8 Supercars )

I'd rather read a blog about sex secrets and dirty tales

Many men would want that

check out the new car site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5811749#post5811749 I did it all tonight, so if you guys wanna write for the site... please PM me, because I do not own a working car anymore and I cannot write about something I do not know about.
Thanks Wen

Who wants to be in podcast/video show?

Attention Mods/XDA staff. We have permission from svetius to post this here. I wasn't sure about doing this either, so I made sure to ask first. We will not directly link to our site so that we do not leech traffic from XDA. We aren't trying to compete with XDA either. We are looking for interns/unpaid staff interested in tech and mobile news, so the job board doesn't fit us.
Alright guys, here's the deal. I'm looking for video/podcast personalities for a website I'm involved in. The site is Install or Not dot com. I'm not linking to it directly so we don't get in trouble with XDA by leeching their traffic.
If you are interested in becoming a personality and can commit to several hours a week in recording audio and/or video, please post a reply here, and we'll talk about it.
There are three unpaid positions available at the moment. We're looking for video personalities, podcast personalities, and media editors. Requirements for the positions are listed below. You may be able to do more than one thing if you want to and are good enough.
All positions must adhere to the following rules:
- You MUST be able to commit at least five hours per week to recording and researching the shows.
- Media editors may need to commit ten or so hours, depending on skill if they are doing shows as well. You need to be available during the week and on weekends.
- You must be able to work within the site guidelines that we set.
- You must be able to be fair and unbias in your discussions. I don't care if you hate Windows Phone, iOS, or Android. You have to be a fair reporter.
To apply for a spot, please prepare a sample of your ability for me to preview.
Podcast sample should feature you talking about two different articles of your choosing for a minimum of ten minutes. Podcasts are meant for spinning out the news and discussing it with others. Try to put your own spin on the news. Make it entertaining. It doesn't need to be funny, it just needs to hold my attention. Feel free to work on submissions as a team if you know other people who want to be involved.
Video samples should follow the same guidelines as the podcast. I'd prefer to see a ten minute video of you talking about a few articles or topics that interest you. Videos are more generally targeted than podcasts. Again, this needs to be interesting and entertaining. it does not need to be funny, it just needs to hold the viewer's attention. Videos are solo pieces.
Editors should either team up with others who are submitting clips, or make a work on their own from the podcast and video guidelines. If you have prior experience in editing, you may submit any prior work as well, so long as it is appropriate. (no porn )

FYI: The positions are unpaid internships.
Site guidelines are set by myself and the owner. They may change from time to time, but you will always know in advance. Generally, just use common sense. It's not MTV or Cinemax; it's a tech news blog.
We don't want excessive profanity in any media on the site. A few bad words throughout the media is fine, but nothing excessive, and nothing horrible. If you can't say it on cable TV, you can't say it on our site either.
Be open to new ideas and other operating systems or OEMs. I don't care how much iOS pisses you off, or how bad Samsung screwed you over on a phone. You will report on the news in a fair and balanced manner. This includes reporting on iOS, Apple, Motorola, RIM, webOS, Symbian, and anything else you can think of that might make you cringe. If you can't wrap your head around being fair to everyone, do not apply.

I too being involved in the site can say, this may look like not such an appealing postition for now, as it's unpaid - but we will surely value your contribution, which can in future but you on our regular team.
Some of the incentives of doing the job are:
Attend tech events
Gadgets to review
Meet big shots of the tech arena
Make a name and get fame for yourself
Adds value to your CV, which employer would not like a person who is popular on the internet ? This might become your full time job, who knows ?
A business card with a fancy position
An identity which can never be erased, yes that's the beauty of the internet - you might be gone and forgotten in the world, but on the internet your name and work will always stay !
And some other perks too, which I'd rather not mention on a public domain.
Besides, I would also like to tell you, you don't need to be a pro at anything to do this job, just be enthusiastic, dedicated and responsible - though you should know tech and shall be able to speak english !
Age, Nationality, Location, Occupation or Gener all of those do not matter as far as you can do the job !
So hit us up if you think you are in for it !
PS: If you think, audio or video is a bit too steep you can even write for us

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Okay guys. I would like to participate in it. As you previously said that we can even write articles for you, I might be interested
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Back to the top.
If you guys know anyone who might be interested in doing this, please send them here as well.

Bump to the top, for the interested lot ! Send those PMs right away

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boborone said:
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Interested, or just sending to the top?
We're looking for news writers as well.

cajunflavoredbob said:
Interested, or just sending to the top?
We're looking for news writers as well.
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Too ugly for on air but yes I am interested in a writer position. Unpaid is completely fine with me. Plus a bump for old xda'er buds.

Verge fantastic journalism

Seriously after watching this video .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66-4uMQqerA&feature=youtube_gdata_player. I don't remember anyone who covered it so professionally oh well I really enjoyed it..
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I totally agree!

The Verge is awesome. Best Tech site ever...besides XDA of course...

Not to bash on the verge by any means. But its more like Google invited them and did this video as a replacement for the NY event that was cancelled.
I don't see it as journalism. A Google sponsored infomercial is more like it honestly.
Probably did not want to change the launch date. No time to get a another venue & date. Don't want to do webcast event with only a couple people present. Do something like this with the verge.

For unbiased reviews my top sites are :
- Anandtech
- Heelsandtech
- Gigaom
Other than that I take the 2nd tier sites like theverge, engadget, etc with a grain of salt.

I think they must have been invited earlier, maybe last week, and they just asked them not to publish the video until after they announced the device.
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ap3604 said:
For unbiased reviews my top sites are :
- Anandtech
- Heelsandtech
- Gigaom
Other than that I take the 2nd tier sites like theverge, engadget, etc with a grain of salt.
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Anandtech is definitely bias.

osi13 said:
Anandtech is definitely bias.
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you straight crazy son
Anandtech is one of the most unbiased review sites ever. The scientific analysis he does, instead of just simply regurgitating the spec list and saying if he like's it or not the way so many other tech sites do, is above all else.

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Not to bash on the verge by any means. But its more like Google invited them and did this video as a replacement for the NY event that was cancelled.
I don't see it as journalism. A Google sponsored infomercial is more like it honestly.
Probably did not want to change the launch date. No time to get a another venue & date. Don't want to do webcast event with only a couple people present. Do something like this with the verge.
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I highly doubt they recorded that after the event was cancelled. Most likely they were going to release it today whether the event took place or not and released it as soon as they were allowed by Google.
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ap3604 said:
you straight crazy son
Anandtech is one of the most unbiased review sites ever. The scientific analysis he does, instead of just simply regurgitating the spec list and saying if he like's it or not the way so many other tech sites do, is above all else.
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Anandtech is good at technical reviews but not necessarily real world reviews.

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I agree. Websites that do reviews have to make revenue so they are bias regardless or at least restricted on the amount of negativity, otherwise they won't receive new phones from the same carrier/manufacture in the future.

Lol at people getting mad that review sites are biased. Of course they are! What do you expect, a glorified press release? That's not journalism at all. Journalism is suppose to be critical and investigative.
The only reason Anandtech is unbiased is because their reviews are more like scientific tests: charts, numbers, quantifiable stuff. Once you start asking them whether you like or dislike the phone, it turns BIASED. I personally don't give two ****zus about numbers and graphs. I want an educated opinion from a geek about whether he likes a phone or not, someone who has handled more than one phone and can make comparisons on a whole host of questions.
It's when the fanboys get angry that their baby wasn't reviewed positively that they start screaming bias. As long as reviewers support their opinions in detail and remain respectful (unlike Gizmodo when they **** all over Blackberry for not sending them a review unit or gave their Nokia N8 to a person who could barely type), it's all good. When they act disrespectful and start throwing insults, place double-standards, and have terrible supporting evidence, do you say, now that is TRULLY BIASED BS.
Here are some ****zu-y sites I've come across:
NokiaBlog, WMPowerUser, WPCentral (duh)
AndroidCentral, AndroidCommunity, Android_______ (double duh)
Gizmodo (no allegiance. Just tabloid fare to provoke and garner hits)

katamari201 said:
Lol at people getting mad that review sites are biased. Of course they are! What do you expect, a glorified press release? That's not journalism at all. Journalism is suppose to be critical and investigative.
The only reason Anandtech is unbiased is because their reviews are more like scientific tests: charts, numbers, quantifiable stuff. Once you start asking them whether you like or dislike the phone, it turns BIASED. I personally don't give two ****zus about numbers and graphs. I want an educated opinion from a geek about whether he likes a phone or not, someone who has handled more than one phone and can make comparisons on a whole host of questions.
It's when the fanboys get angry that their baby wasn't reviewed positively that they start screaming bias. As long as reviewers support their opinions in detail and remain respectful (unlike Gizmodo when they **** all over Blackberry for not sending them a review unit or gave their Nokia N8 to a person who could barely type), it's all good. When they act disrespectful and start throwing insults, place double-standards, and have terrible supporting evidence, do you say, now that is TRULLY BIASED BS.
Here are some ****zu-y sites I've come across:
NokiaBlog, WMPowerUser, WPCentral (duh)
AndroidCentral, AndroidCommunity, Android_______ (double duh)
Gizmodo (no allegiance. Just tabloid fare to provoke and garner hits)
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I like watching youtube reviews like MobileTechReview and Pocketnow, although they are bias too it still give enough of a hint about a device. In all honesty, I fear more the elitist group of Android fanboys from the Galaxy Nexus forum section, once they obtain this device and move on to here, I will be making my retreat.

katamari201 said:
The only reason Anandtech is unbiased is because their reviews are more like scientific tests: charts, numbers, quantifiable stuff. Once you start asking them whether you like or dislike the phone, it turns BIASED. I personally don't give two ****zus about numbers and graphs. I want an educated opinion from a geek about whether he likes a phone or not, someone who has handled more than one phone and can make comparisons on a whole host of questions.
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I personally don't give two %#&! about a site that says : "battery life is ok". That doesn't tell me squat.
I would MUCH rather have a scientific study done showing the amount of battery life based on what you were doing the entire time to run it down.
I personally don't give two %#&! about a review site that says: "screen brightness is good". That doesn't do anything for me.
I would MUCH rather have a scientific test done showing the screen brightness in nits so I can compare it against other phones.
I would rather have too much knowledge than not enough and make my own choice based on the knowledge given to me, rather than someone elses opinion who might not have the same preferences I do.
Of course it's helpful to have differing opinions of phones, but most review sites beyond anandtech don't know how to write a real review.

Verge is crap. I sheep infested site. Took it off my favs long time ago and never looked back.

Nice video

Nice sales video and definitely pre-recorded

boodies said:
Verge is crap. I sheep infested site. Took it off my favs long time ago and never looked back.
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iSheep? The website that has been highly critical of Apple and iOS? You must be confused. Their editor in chief uses a Galaxy Nexus.
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To be fair almost all of the Verge's review/investigative type videos look like this. They spend on a lot of money on their video team apparently.

I enjoyed the video from the Verge and the articles were very well written. They perfectly answered my questions about the lack of an LTE Nexus 4; from Google's standpoint, it makes perfect sense. Shame on you Verizon...
That being said BGR is the BEST! I'm SO joking - In all seriousness, I read a lot of those sites, them formulate my own opinion about how said device stacks up. I rarely take the opinion/bias from one site alone.

Everyone on this planet is subjective. There is no such thing as objective, except when looking at a spec sheet.
I subjectively object to the word journalism being used to describe any review site.

eksasol said:
I like watching youtube reviews like MobileTechReview and Pocketnow, although they are bias too it still give enough of a hint about a device. In all honesty, I fear more the elitist group of Android fanboys from the Galaxy Nexus forum section, once they obtain this device and move on to here, I will be making my retreat.
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And who should that be? And why not just blocking them?

White Nexus 5

Check it out posted on the verge http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/27/5034992/google-nexus-5-smartphone-white-color-leak
Sorry if old/boring/uninteresting
Looks nice but i'd rather the frame be white swell rather the just the back

Roxas598 said:
Sorry if old/boring/uninteresting
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You forgot unnecessary new thread in the mix.

[email protected] said:
You forgot unnecessary new thread in the mix.
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Oh really? Meh!

Roxas598 said:
Oh really? Meh!
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Yeah, this is already being talked about in the designated leak threads.

JCreazy said:
Yeah, this is already being talked about in the designated leak threads.
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Aww damn sorry I did a search beforehand but I obviously didn't search hard enough

I heard it was possibly fake, not sure though

rohithaip said:
I heard it was possibly fake, not sure though
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If it doesn't come from Google there's a high chance its fake
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If it doesn't come from Google there's a high chance its fake
Sent from my supercharged LGOG
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True, I have to stop relying on unofficial sources.

It's an obvious fake, look at the camera and power button position on the first and third image.

SetPT said:
It's an obvious fake, look at the camera and power button position on the first and third image.
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There's a reason that reputable sites like The Verge and Android Police are referencing it from evleaks twitter account. evleaks has been in the game for a long time and is rarely wrong about anything he posts. It's usually a safe bet that if he puts it out there, then it's going to come to pass.

Watcher07 said:
There's a reason that reputable sites like The Verge and Android Police are referencing it from evleaks twitter account. evleaks has been in the game for a long time and is rarely wrong about anything he posts. It's usually a safe bet that if he puts it out there, then it's going to come to pass.
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What i'm trying to say is there is something wrong with that leak.
Maybe we'll have a white nexus 5, maybe not (most certaintly yes), but the inconsistency in the image is visible.

I would not say verge and android police are reputable sites.
These guys just follow the standard blogging information dissemination of re-posting the same info/stuff everywhere.
That being said I'm definitely getting a white nexus.

It is NOT a fake.
Look at the official black render from the Google Play Store page, it have the "issue" about powerbutton and camera too. It is simply an error that comes from LG/Google

the1onewolf said:
I would not say verge and android police are reputable sites.
These guys just follow the standard blogging information dissemination of re-posting the same info/stuff everywhere.
That being said I'm definitely getting a white nexus.
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Not sure why you say they're not reputable sites. They've got a history of fairly accurate reporting, a few "sources" that they can identify legitimacy from, and they tend to pass on things that common blogs gobble up and spew out. Despite all the leaks of release dates as an example, I saw no indication from either of anything until the evleaks post, which many including other sites like Android Central and Engadget use.
Add to that the Google themselves left a message to the Android Police apk teardown team in the code of the latest Google Play Store release before it went live. Watching the G+ Nexus community post blog after blog talking about "unofficial" this and that, with no coverage from sites like Android Central, Android Police, The Verge and Engadget shows that they don't tend to simply post whatever is floating out there, they take their time to vet it.
Like any news outlets, of course they've been fooled a couple of times but overall their accuracy, as well as tact in reporting make them more reputable in my eyes.
And black Nexus 5 for me please, though I will admit that it is the first white phone I've ever even remotely thought of getting.

the1onewolf said:
I would not say verge and android police are reputable sites.
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Show me a more reliable source of information on this phone than Android Police, @evleaks, or The Verge.
None of these sites have ever claimed to know "facts", they simply put the information out there with a disclaimer to "take this with a grain of salt".

the1onewolf said:
I would not say verge and android police are reputable sites.
These guys just follow the standard blogging information dissemination of re-posting the same info/stuff everywhere.
That being said I'm definitely getting a white nexus.
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Remember last year when Google was going to announce the N4 and the event got cancelled because of the giant storm in New York? They invited The Verge's Editor in Chief personally instead and announced it there.

Anyway, kind of brings me back to my original point. Many reputable tech publications across the board follow the evleaks twitter. Head over to his and look at his followers, you'll see many tech giants in there. Take a look at this article that talks more in depth about Evan Blass (evleaks) and you'll see why he's someone that the tech industry pays very close attention to.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...rview-with-evan-blass-the-man-behind-evleaks/

Well not to rehash this.
I think what I said was misinterpreted.
There certainly are many reputable sources (industry insiders, distributors, manufactures, people closely connected and etc) out there and evleaks is definitely one of them. When it comes down to exclusives, breaking news and leaks these kinds of sources are generally very reputable because they're in the heart of it and in the know.
However, these blog organizations are just outsiders who just quote reputable sources - in this case they basically just posted what evleaks wrote. In a sense all they did was "retweet" what evleaks. Saying what the other reliable guy say doesn't make you, yourself, a reputable organization. That rep comes from the own content you produce and the way you vet information.
When it comes down it, these blog sites are just all following the same sources on twitter or whatever. Most people here probably follow these same sources as well. These are not exclusive sources who only give your organization exclusive information - this is free information that is posted for all to see and it's just being passed around/circlejerked by all the blog sites and even xda right now.
As for the content these blog sites actually produce. Well the way these blog editors review products is cursory and superficial at best. Whenever, I watch a review posted by a blogging site I can tell they haven't dug deep enough and that's because those guys aren't real industry experts or even "power" users. I'd love it if these guys actually would dive in their products more and even disassemble the products to check the quality of the internal components. I know alot people who use a product heavily or for a particular purpose/industry would really love and appreciate that.
That's where I'm coming from and that's my two cents.
Now back on the subject.
I really hope they do simultaneously release both colors.
I always hate it when they release the white version 3-5 months after.

why do people believe this is real? anyone could accomplish that using photoshop

hello00 said:
why do people believe this is real? anyone could accomplish that using photoshop
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It may be a fake rendering, but the information itself may be real. Evleaks has always been dead on with his stuff in the past, so I think his leak is credible.