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Hi please help me , i'm stuck in boot loader mode trying to update my rom to windows 6.1 , i have vista on my computer .
I searched the forum but cant find any useful help.
I know lot many had this problem and have got sorted out , so please help me with clear instructions.
Thanks in advance,
shank
since you are using vista, it is very unlikely, that your device is actually stuck in bootloader mode, it was your pc, causing that error. because the device changes its identity, while upgrading, vista (and windows 7) seem to think, it is necessary to look for new drivers. maybe you saw the driver search in the bottom right corner of the task bar.
so, basicly you have 2 options to get your device back, either you get to a pc with xp and perform the upgrade properly, or you try the vista method.
for the xp way, have a look here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardUpgrade1_WM2003SE0
that is the first step in the tutorial on how to upgrade and i bet you didn't do that in your first attempt
for the vista way, refer to this page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardUpgrade4_Vista
or if you want it in pictures, this:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardUpgrade4_Vista_Pic
i personally never got the vista way to work, not in vista home premium 32, nor in ultimate 64, and in windows 7 ultimate 64 it does not work for me neither.
the very best you can do in your situation is, try the vista method, and either it works, than proceed with the wizard i gave you as the xp link, or get to an xp computer and start with the wizard right away.
if your device really is stuck in bootloader (still unlikely), post back, and we try mtty
got the same problem but am working under windows 7 x64 so it willl be a serious issue
neverdmind fixed worked on my laptop with xp
I am still stuck
Can do nothing. Have this message on the screen and even then I try to connect it to my Vista there is no connection.
Is it that ****ty or something can be done
welcome to the forum!
your problem starts with v and ends with a (like so many evil things do): vista. ok, that was off, sorry, let's get to the facts now:
this is probably what you have experienced during the unlucky attempt to upgrade your device:
you start upgrading, everything looks fine, your pc's RUU (the rom upgrade utility, what you used to start the upgrade) is working fine, your device's screen said usb and v2.0X and then "upgrading" but then at some point, your pc said, "wait a minute, this is not the device i am used to, i cannot charge or sync it, and it also does not respond with the usual name!" so, vista is as 'smart' as trying to get a new driver for the device, making the sounds of a usb device unplugging, and a new one plugging in, that's when your connection is lost, and that is bad, because the wizzard told you before, to "never unplug the device, unless the upgrade process is over". you see, what happened there?
vista's ability, to make driver installation easier for the user has become bad for you in this situation, as you were relying on, say, windows xp's stubbornness.
ok, you say, why would he tell me all that? i saw that happening!
yes, but now you know what caused the problem. now we get on to solving it.
there is a nice tutorial in the wiki, where you can find a driver for vista x86 and x64, that will behave like the xp driver used to, it will charge the device, sync it, and still be able to upgrade, you find the wiki entry -=here=-, and -=here=- again with screenshots.
when you arrived at successfully having installed the driver, so making the screen on connection change from serial to usb, without vista searching for new drivers, you arrived at the point, from where on you can continue, or better restart, flashing the rom you originally intended to.
but let me say, after breaking rule 1, when it comes to flashing, may i advice you to read a little more about the general topic in the link -=here=-, because i can guarantee you, that that was not the last mistake you made with the upgrading process, and since you probably don't want to start from scratch again in a few days, you should ask yourself these questions:
have i formatted the extrom?
have i resized the partitions to gain storage space?
do i have a proper RUU?
did i pick the right rom?
what about sim unlock?
what about radio rom update?
do i know how to reset a device with a higher os than wm2003?
if to either of these questions, your answer was not a clear "yes!!", but a "no" or even "what is he talking about?" you should definetely make a little research before starting over, because you are breaking hardware limitations here, doing things, htc originally intended trained service professionals to do, not home users, this is something that could break your device or at least cost you a lot of time to repair, when done wrong, so please read the links i gave you, it will save a lot of your nerves. here you are again, -=the most important link=-
and -=another link with a common misunderstanding cleared up=-
have fun reading, you won't regret it.
Hello,
I have searched thoroughly on this site and I cannot find any help. I used to have vista ultimate and I down loaded the usb modem drivers and it worked like a charm. I had to re image my pc and now I have vista business. However now when I try to load the drivers they do now show up on the device list and it does not successfully install the modem. Am I missing something? is there an updated driver? Can anyone please help or point me to where I can get some help. I really need to get back on line. Thanks XDA
I have a suggestion which might work.
Look at your device manager and see if there is anything on there thats coming up as unidentified... if there is, and with the phone connected to activesync so the PC knows the phone is there (assuming activesync is working), delete those entries one by one and when you delete one you need to click *scan for hardware changes under the *actions menu.
If you didnt start from scratch with the PC - IE format the hard drive and rebuild the system - that may mean there is a corrupt version of the driver still floating about and causing problems. This is why in the places I have worked we always backed machines up - did a full format - and then either imaged or rebuilt the box manually.
Another option is to go online to the manufacturers support site for updated drivers and install them from a location you have saved them too to your hard drive..
From my experience dealing with recalcitrant USB devices I would think that the first issue is more likely.
However there is another possibility that may be the root of the problem. I know that different versions of Vista support different connectivity options and setups - aka Vista Basic doesnt do Active Directory or Domains (im dredging this up from memory so its a little hazy). There is the remote possibility that the Business version doesnt support phones as USB modems, although I would be very surprised if that was the case.
It does strike me as a little odd that you have gone from one version of the same OS to a different version of the same OS and have had this sort of problem... but then Microsoft are known for compatibility gremlins - two words - Windows ME
Hope that helped.
I know, it is very surprising to me that now it does not work on Vista Business. You would think that it is basically the same OS but with less features. It is the 32 bit version. Its driving me crazy because I depend on it to do my work from my laptop and it just does not populate the device name when browsing and selecting the drivers. It sees the device it just does not pupulate. When I try to do the right click and install it does install it but it still does not show up under modems. If any one else has more suggestions I will greatly appreciate it.
No need to panic fello xda members and friends. It is all good now...i am typing thins theteering from my laptop through my tilt. Thanks xda you are the best. The speed trough my tilt is faster than my 2wire at home....ftw.:d
Coming from Nexus one where it was no issues with installing ROMs. However life is not as easy with my SGS.
I'm using VMWare on my mac to use programs that are only for PC. My issue is getting the SGS to even show up in VMW. Anyone with some mac experience (I'm a couple of month old mac user after 15 years on PC) Who has made this working So I can start ODIN and get back to 2.2.
Kind regards
Frewys
MAC = fancy closed source Linux
anyways in VMware you have the option to ADD a USB device to your VMware machine, once you do that you can MAP the USB on the VM machine to the phsyical USB port where the SGS is connected to
Fancy, nice looking. I was curious and bored of PC.
This sounds interesting. I get the popup asking me to which machine to connect it to. But then absolutly nothing.. No missing drivers or anything in Device manager.
Do you have a link where to read more? looking around on VMWares sight is of course an option.. unless you can point me in the direction.
Kind regards
Fredrik
EDIT. Looking over VMWares sight didn't really give some help. So I'm still where I started. I even tried to disable the USB 2.0 since there where apparently some instances where it didn't work but in the end still no go.
Eh. Have you installed sgs drivers in virtual machine yet? Easiest is to install kies
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Apple being notoriously strict on following the USB standard to the T might be an issue, I don't even think VMware gets around this but I could easily be wrong since it is software that is detecting hardware but I know people that have problems with the SGS that haven't been cleared up with VMware. I think they do this so customers are more likely to buy Apple branded products and they get their mega premium due to a lack of competition that their comps will support.
So, what happens that is applicable to you here, is that the device doesn't get recognized to begin with and Samsung (assuming they test on Macs at all) sees this at some point and says F it, it's not worth our time...possibly even under the belief that all mac users would want iPhone anyways.
PS, I don't consider this, nor am I trying to spread, FUD. That's just what I've seen from other Mac/PC device intermingling in other areas and part of the reason why many users can't charge their iPads on their computers.
I setup a small Windows XP install on Boot Camp. I already had it so I can play Starcraft 2 since it runs like ass in Mac but worked out perfectly for my phone too.
You could try installing the Android SDK.
I have installed Eclipse and the Android SDKs on my Macbook and use ADB to control my phone (debug mode turned on in the phone). That's the way I have developed and debug my Android apps.
I also have Parallels installed to use the Bootcamp partition from Mac OS X. I found I could only get Kies to work (USB debugging turned off again) when re-booting into Bootcamp, not via Parallels, so I guess Samsung is doing something funny at a low level USB driver level, which neither Parallels or VMWare support.
Thanks for all the reply guys!
@ickyboo, alovell83 Yes. Installed Kies. Installed separate drivers. No effect. It is not even in device manager list.
@decepticon The problem for me with bootcamp is to my knowledge (like I said new to Mac) they don't allow bootcamp on a partition HDD. Maybe I'm just "PC" and don't really need to make extra partitions to save time in case of need to reinstall (saving all music. images, movies etc on "D" partition). Enlighten me. Come to think of it. I could remove the extra partition install the bootcamp and THEN remake the partition?
(of topic. How much better FPS do u get on bootcamp compared to native mac? I ran it on my 2010 MacBook Pro 17" and have to lover the the settings pretty much to lowest settings to get playable frame rate)
@shawnfr that is interesting!! So I can use the bootcamp partion as a source in virtual machine!? Sounds sweet! Know if it is only possible in parallels? yea looks like there is something going on With the USB thing on the Samsung.. shame..
So After getting rid of all my PCs I had to use my fathers to finally flash the ROM. A LOT easier!!
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@decepticon The problem for me with bootcamp is to my knowledge (like I said new to Mac) they don't allow bootcamp on a partition HDD. Maybe I'm just "PC" and don't really need to make extra partitions to save time in case of need to reinstall (saving all music. images, movies etc on "D" partition). Enlighten me. Come to think of it. I could remove the extra partition install the bootcamp and THEN remake the partition?
(of topic. How much better FPS do u get on bootcamp compared to native mac? I ran it on my 2010 MacBook Pro 17" and have to lover the the settings pretty much to lowest settings to get playable frame rate)
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If you already have a spare partition then you can use it. Just run through the Boot Camp setup and it will walk you through it. You can read your Mac partition in Windows but it's read only to protect it from any Windows virus.
I haven't checked FPS because it runs so bad on my 2007 Macbook Pro but in Windows I get a noticeable improvement due to the newest nVidia drivers in Windows. Sadly Apple won't allow hardware providers to release drivers directly for Mac.
That is just it. I get this cryptic error that i googled and to my understanding it cannot install on a partitioned disk. Right now I'm copying my entire drive to an external so that I can remove the partition and copy it back after hopefully getting the bootcamp up and running.
No I know about that whole driver fiasco for Mac. They are waaaaay behind windows on the graphdrivers... But thankfully steam seems to put some sense in Jobes.
Coming from Windows I think that the virus thing is exaggerated.. I had ONE virus of negligence during 15 years of PC. But don't trust common sense to all other million PC users
frewys said:
That is just it. I get this cryptic error that i googled and to my understanding it cannot install on a partitioned disk. Right now I'm copying my entire drive to an external so that I can remove the partition and copy it back after hopefully getting the bootcamp up and running.
No I know about that whole driver fiasco for Mac. They are waaaaay behind windows on the graphdrivers... But thankfully steam seems to put some sense in Jobes.
Coming from Windows I think that the virus thing is exaggerated.. I had ONE virus of negligence during 15 years of PC. But don't trust common sense to all other million PC users
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I don't know if it's relevant for newer MBPs but I did get a video update that says it solves issues with SC2.
I had some issues with Boot Camp and partition tables at first but I removed them all and did it all through Boot Camp and it worked fine. The virus things is exaggerated but common sense takes a back seat to "see me live on my web cam click here" lol
Been working on this annoying thing for a couple of hours.. Bootcamp is NOT very flexible.. But I found a way to "cheat" it.. I had to remove the second partition. Then make "system" partition the entire drive. THEN I make the Bootcamp partition. And after windows is installed I can repartiton the System and make my second "data" partition!! Messy. But hope it works. Installing windows soon.
The SC2 update didn't do anything for me. But I'm happy to see it.. At least that is a start.. I read it had some effect for some older MacBooks...
Nope.. No luck at all. Giving up for now on BootCamp. I guess I will stick to PCs for my SGS in the future. I dont really have time for gaming anyway so the issue with lack of partitioning is not really worth it
I have not yet had any luck getting my SGS to show up in a Windows 7 VM running on VMWare Fusion.
USB virtualization is a tricky animal. A device has to be enumerated twice - first on the host, then on the guest. I imagine the SGS is having a hard time with the low-level second set config request. This seems fairly typical with high-bandwidth USB devices like PDAs.
When I get to work tomorrow I'm going to try it out against VMWare Server and VMWare Workstation. I might even try Hyper-V just for giggles. Workstation has the ability to disable the set config command. So maybe it will have more luck (doesn't help Mac users though!)
ok. Interesting. Good luck with that
I just realized Mac has VirtualBox to! Anyone tried it? Maybe there is a small difference for the better in this case...
I'm thinking it's a virus that I have...my computer has slowed to a crawl and is acting all sorts of messed up...I've pulled the important info I want off of it. Wondering if reformatting and using a Linux OS would help...Considering dual booting windows and linux but wasn't sure if the problems would persist since I think it is a virus...I downloaded AVG anti-virus and comodo cleaning essentials...the computer is just acting WEIRD..won't recognize my wifi half the time, super slow to load...not starting in windows 7 starter...any advice is appreciated.
If you can start it in safe mode you can then go to start menu / accessories and choose run. Type msconfig into box that appears then press your keyboards enter key.
It will open a window with a few tabs, go to the one that says startup and you will see a list of programs windows runs at startup.
Untick those you're not sure are things you installed, malware and viruses often show up with a random name made of letters for example kwge.exe if you see weird names like that untick them then click save and ok buttons and reboot.
If you have a nasty program affecting pc its common for it to try starting up at boot time.
Another option is download malwarebytes malware scanner but you need pc able to start up to do these things even if only in safe mode.
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mistermentality said:
If you can start it in safe mode you can then go to start menu / accessories and choose run. Type msconfig into box that appears then press your keyboards enter key.
It will open a window with a few tabs, go to the one that says startup and you will see a list of programs windows runs at startup.
Untick those you're not sure are things you installed, malware and viruses often show up with a random name made of letters for example kwge.exe if you see weird names like that untick them then click save and ok buttons and reboot.
If you have a nasty program affecting pc its common for it to try starting up at boot time.
Another option is download malwarebytes malware scanner but you need pc able to start up to do these things even if only in safe mode.
Dave
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Thank you...the computer will start up the issue is that I will get about 80-90% done installing an anti-virus or using the Comodo Clean up and it will restart...thinking the virus maybe blocking it from using an application like that...I want to run Jolicloud or another Linux based OS if you know any made for netbooks. It will go into startup repair when it restarts and won't finish the startup repair deal
So something is seriously wrong with my computer...every anti virus/cleaning program has frozen and gone to not responding...AVG Anti Virus, Comodo Cleaning Essentials and now Malwarebytes Anti Malware...this is getting ridiculous...how I reformat this piece of **** and get a non-Windows OS on here? I have Jolicloud on my SD card.
semperfidoordie said:
So something is seriously wrong with my computer...every anti virus/cleaning program has frozen and gone to not responding...AVG Anti Virus, Comodo Cleaning Essentials and now Malwarebytes Anti Malware...this is getting ridiculous
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Google a program called rkill from bleepingcomputers.com, download this program and run it, it will stop most processes when it's done, allowing you to run Malwarebytes.
Good luck.
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Trying it now...just wondering if a new laptop/netbook would be a better idea...I think the HDD in this one is dead from everything I've read online...just want a Ubuntu or other Linux OS laptop I'm done f_ing with windows lol
Tried installing Julicloud (Ubuntu) got it to load after restart to dual boot menu...selected jolicloud go to about 95 or 96% and it restarted and came up with the message "No init found. Try passing init=bootarg. Busybox v1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-lubuntutii) built-in shell (ash) Enter help for a list of built in commands.
(initramfs)
help???
That's sounds more like a hardware issue because your problems are still there even after formatting.
Try to run a short dst then a long dst. Look up on google on how to get there for your computer. To me this sounds like a software issue more then anything else but try it. If either one fails your hdd is really close to dead. I just went through a short dst failure on my hdd so to me it doesn't sound like hardware but dot your i's and cross your t's kinda thing. If both pass then its most deffinitly software. Try an online antivirus toll so that there is nothing to install. If you are still having issues and your sure its a virus and you want to go to linux then write zeros to your hdd. Basically its a massive reformat. Reformatting can sometimes leave the the virus on the sector of a hdd and still make your computer run like ****. But writing zeros is basically a very thorough format that takes a bit of time and usally formats it quite a number of times.
Or go an easier root buy a new hdd, take out the old one put in the new one in the computer and install jolicloud and destroy the hdd then through it away and be done with it.
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Tried installing Julicloud (Ubuntu) got it to load after restart to dual boot menu...selected jolicloud go to about 95 or 96% and it restarted and came up with the message "No init found. Try passing init=bootarg. Busybox v1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-lubuntutii) built-in shell (ash) Enter help for a list of built in commands.
(initramfs)
help???
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Not used that myself but did a google search and found someone who had the same problem and blogged about how to fix it.
The page is http://codeabout.wordpress.com/2011/03/05/fix-your-non-bootable-linux-partition/ hope it is of some use.
Basically it would appear that by installing a second os you have made the boot sector unusable for the second one. Some netbooks allow you to select a specific partition to boot from, if yours does you can tell it to boot from the linux one.
Its usually done by pressing a function key before it tries booting but most netbooks don't allow it so just mentioning it in case yours does. Keys differ depending on model but typically is f1 though one was the del key.
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Damn I guess I will start looking at HDD's mine pretty much instantly failed the short DST test. Any advice on upgrading netbook memory while I'm in there? I know how to take it apart and all just don't know a lot about upgrading these little things.
Man things go from bad to worse lol...tried to run chkdsk and now everyone it boots it boots running chkdsk and freezes after 6% and having quite a few bad sectors. Is there a way to bypass this and get it to start with command prompt? If I buy a new HD could I install a Linux OS right off the bat and not mess with windows? Also is there any definitive way to tell without a doubt it is the HD?
Yes you can switch hdds and see if the problem still occurs... if not then the problem is fixed.
That's a good point. I am considering buying a new laptop and starting fresh...wish you could build one like you build a desktop. I want one built the way I want it running on a Linux OS. Don't really want to waste the money buying a new computer and paying for Windows and not use it.
Hmm... Have you tried to install Ubuntu? I recommend you use Wubi to install and dual boot it with some dead simple automated repartioning
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That's a good point. I am considering buying a new laptop and starting fresh...wish you could build one like you build a desktop. I want one built the way I want it running on a Linux OS. Don't really want to waste the money buying a new computer and paying for Windows and not use it.
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Not sure if that's available there, but here we get pcs with no OS or DOS, and then you can install what you want
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This is what I would do, if I were you...
First and foremost, make sure nothing is wrong with the hardware itself. The most common issues are with the HDs, as they tend to break first...
Schedule a diskcheck from the disk properties, and make sure to check the surface for errors also.
Then I would start the hunt for the virus, if it exists. Bear in mind that formatting the disk and installing another OS does NOT eliminate some virus types, like rootkits, so you have to make sure that the disk is clean before doing anything.
For a quick test, I always download a portable version of Superantispyware and do a smart scan. Then I'll download from Malwarebytes and do the same.
You may or may not solve your problem with the above. In case you don't, keep reading...
The most secure and guaranteed way of virus checking (and cleaning) is with a Rescue CD or Usb key. Download yumi, it lets you make a multiboot usb key with multiple rescue cds. Don't worry about finding the cds, it has the option of doing it for you, from inside the utility. I will go for Avira and Kaspersky, make a boot usb key and boot my pc from it to check for viruses, particularly rootkits. You can also try with other companies, if you cannot find any viruses with Avira and Kaspersky, like Panda or F-Secure...
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Hmm... Have you tried to install Ubuntu? I recommend you use Wubi to install and dual boot it with some dead simple automated repartioning
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I have tried but I get an error when trying to boot using Jolicloud (a netbook version of Ubuntu) I may a different version though.
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Not sure if that's available there, but here we get pcs with no OS or DOS, and then you can install what you want
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That's pretty cool. The computers are out there it's just finding a company that will let you build one that way haha. Everyone seems to have a hard on for Windows crap.
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This is what I would do, if I were you...
First and foremost, make sure nothing is wrong with the hardware itself. The most common issues are with the HDs, as they tend to break first...
Schedule a diskcheck from the disk properties, and make sure to check the surface for errors also.
Then I would start the hunt for the virus, if it exists. Bear in mind that formatting the disk and installing another OS does NOT eliminate some virus types, like rootkits, so you have to make sure that the disk is clean before doing anything.
For a quick test, I always download a portable version of Superantispyware and do a smart scan. Then I'll download from Malwarebytes and do the same.
You may or may not solve your problem with the above. In case you don't, keep reading...
The most secure and guaranteed way of virus checking (and cleaning) is with a Rescue CD or Usb key. Download yumi, it lets you make a multiboot usb key with multiple rescue cds. Don't worry about finding the cds, it has the option of doing it for you, from inside the utility. I will go for Avira and Kaspersky, make a boot usb key and boot my pc from it to check for viruses, particularly rootkits. You can also try with other companies, if you cannot find any viruses with Avira and Kaspersky, like Panda or F-Secure...
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I have downloaded Malwarebytes, Comodo Cleaning Essentials and AVG. None of which have been able to complete a scan the computer will always freeze up and shut itself off before they get the opportunity to. I have finally been patient enough to let chkdsk run though and so far although it's taking forever it has been finding bad sectors, replaced a bunch of bad clusters and what not. I am hoping when this finally finishes it may function somewhat more normally.
If your hdd failed the short dst then your hdd is pretty much gone, dead, about to be taken off life support, and it needs to be replaced. Which explains why its failing to install programs, jolicloud and would seem like a virus.
Its a dying hdd. Go to bestbuy, newegg, microcenter, etc and buy a 2.5" hdd. Then install it into your netbook. Once you replace your hdd you will need to install a os as there will be nothing for the netbook to boot up. So choose jolicloud, ubuntu, win7 or what not and you will be good to go.
Once you done all that buy a 2.5" housing for the hdd. Basically this will make the internal hdd into an external hdd and plus it in via usb and copy all your files to the new one.
The only thing you can do for a short dst failure is to replace your hdd. Nothing else will work. Its only allowed matter of time before it can't even be accessed.
Ps if you never removed a hdd from a netbook or laptop its a little bit different from a desktop. You need to remove the brackets from the old hdd and put them on the new one so you can install it.
Also the checkdisk repairing sectors will not fix a short dst failure. That is a hardware issue. All you are doing is waisting time. Your computer is crashing and restarting its self cause the hdd is having issues trying to process the info on a hardware level, not software.
If you manage to repair all the sectors it won't mean anything. Cause if you try to still do any installs (mine going through a short dst allowed installs btw) it may still fail and any intense task will cause it to crash. And by intense i mean any multitasking could crash it. Your hdd is very unstable and os use a lot of the hdd functions. So when you make it an external to get the files off it becomes more stable because of the less work from the os allowing you to remove your files.
I know its not what you want to hear but the truth is hard to take at times.
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That's a good point. I am considering buying a new laptop and starting fresh...wish you could build one like you build a desktop. I want one built the way I want it running on a Linux OS. Don't really want to waste the money buying a new computer and paying for Windows and not use it.
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You can semi-build your own by going to the brands website (like alien, hp) and get one custom fitted for you. But you will still be stuck with windows7 at that point you can keep the serial codes and use them on your netbook to get a different verision other then starter on that if you decide to replace the hdd and get a new laptop. Or hold on to it if it turns out that you don't like linux on your laptop. Linux is not meant for everyone. And its nice to have a safety net just in case.
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Okay, so I have been having some problems with a recent upGrade I did on an older computer I'm using as a kind of file server...anyways I'm baffled and getting quite annoyed at all the problems I'm having that seem to have just appeared out of thin air.
Motherboard specs here: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...=en&product=3184095&lang=en&docname=c00683218
Ubuntu 12.04 x64 dual boot with Windows 7 Ultimate x32
Integrated Nvidia 6150le (see mobo specs)
IDE hard drives
AMD Athlon x2 3800+ dual core @2.0ghz
Railink rt2561 WLAN card
Upgrade:
Before: 1.75 GB total of different speed and size hodge podge ****ty ram; pc2100
After: 3GB pc3200 3x1gb (got four sticks, one was DOA so sending it for exchange)
For the record beforehand ubuntu and windows were both installed updated and tweaked with no major problems and were fully working before the switch
That was the only change. First I booted into Ubuntu, and it was like pissing its pants...it seemed to boot and logged in fine but apps started crashing I couldn't get anything to open and my network cards disappeared both Ethernet and WLAN. Ok, weird, I guess I will just reinstall.
Also, I've never had a significant problem installing from The normal desktop iso on USB...I had to be connected to the Internet to download extra stuff to get my nvidia graphics working but other than that it installs with no problem.
This time though, I pop in my USB, boot and I get the black screen. It completely booted but no x server. I tried all the different switches even burned to a cd to try that way, nothing. So I tried the alternate ISo install. Got that to install finally, booted, same black screen! Had to goto fail safe X, try a few times because it kept freezing, and finally got to the desktop. I added the x-updates ppa as I have to to get gnome 3d to work correctly, and ran the general update. Not only do I find out as I'm waiting for everything to download and install that the nvidia driver that usually installs and allows me to use unity 2d was never activated, the damn update fails and one package breaks and now I have to start over again....
Here's the kicker: through all of this, before during and after, windows 7 booted like nothing happened. It just ran faster from the ram as I expected. No weird graphics or errors or anything. It's completely baffling....as I thought if anything would blow up it would be windows...
So I ask...what the hell is going on??? Is there some relationship between my graphics card and the RAM? I was under the impression that there was 64mb of graphics memory separate from the physical ram. And as most branded mobos are I can't do **** in the bios...so what am I supposed to do? Just fight Ubuntu until I can get it to play nice? Even the installer acts differently now with the upgrade. It just doesn't make any sense to me
Please she'd some light? Thanks.
Are you using unity with Ubuntu? It's really resource intensive and it's better without it (if you're a purist and comfortable with linux). Did you install all updates to Ubuntu? Also did you install closed source additional drivers for your hardware?
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Are you using unity with Ubuntu? It's really resource intensive and it's better without it (if you're a purist and comfortable with linux). Did you install all updates to Ubuntu? Also did you install closed source additional drivers for your hardware?
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Oh I put gnome on there as soon as I install all updates because I need an updated nvidia driver to use gnome properly....I install them every time I install Ubuntu and usually the ones bundled that are installed automatically during setup, while they don't work very well they at least gave me basic functionality, now they don't install or activate at all at any stage, and I have to coax it into fail safe x just to get connected to WLAN and install the updated nvidia driver