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If I wanted to root my G1, but retain the stability of the Tmobile ROM, which would be the best path to follow? Reason for rooting is for the tether ability.
I LOVE the Hero interface, but it sounds kinda dicey on stability. Lag doesn't concern me too much, as long as it doesn't affect calls.
I need BlueTooth to sync to my car stereo (actually not sure of the stock ROM does that, got my G1 yesterday). Another must is the WIFI. GPS is a major gravy item, but not a must have. Really diggin the Bubble application. Would love to have a cooler looking clock like I see on Hero, but the retro from the market is not bad.
I don't really care much about playing music, and I will probably never use the camera.
Glad to have found this site, I am having waaaay too much fun with this phone.
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If I wanted to root my G1, but retain the stability of the Tmobile ROM, which would be the best path to follow? Reason for rooting is for the tether ability.
I LOVE the Hero interface, but it sounds kinda dicey on stability. Lag doesn't concern me too much, as long as it doesn't affect calls.
I need BlueTooth to sync to my car stereo (actually not sure of the stock ROM does that, got my G1 yesterday). Another must is the WIFI. GPS is a major gravy item, but not a must have. Really diggin the Bubble application. Would love to have a cooler looking clock like I see on Hero, but the retro from the market is not bad.
I don't really care much about playing music, and I will probably never use the camera.
Glad to have found this site, I am having waaaay too much fun with this phone.
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Cyanogen's latest non-experimental builds are probably your best bet. They're fast, stable, bluetooth, GPS, and of course WiFi.
If you want the awesome Hero Clock, look on the market for Beautiful Widgets or Weather Widget - donate for $1.49 or something like that.
captsammy said:
If I wanted to root my G1, but retain the stability of the Tmobile ROM, which would be the best path to follow? Reason for rooting is for the tether ability.
I LOVE the Hero interface, but it sounds kinda dicey on stability. Lag doesn't concern me too much, as long as it doesn't affect calls.
I need BlueTooth to sync to my car stereo (actually not sure of the stock ROM does that, got my G1 yesterday). Another must is the WIFI. GPS is a major gravy item, but not a must have. Really diggin the Bubble application. Would love to have a cooler looking clock like I see on Hero, but the retro from the market is not bad.
I don't really care much about playing music, and I will probably never use the camera.
Glad to have found this site, I am having waaaay too much fun with this phone.
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First...welcome to XDA, second...just make sure you don't fall victim to useless Threads or Post (Like most Noobs do) without doing some extensive searching, pretend your a Ninja creeping through the Forums learning and observing and when you feel confident...Attack!!! (Meaning make your Thread or Post) Clearly I'm not talking about this Thread as you posted in the correct section...so on to your question, you say you want stability well look no further than CyanogenMod v. 3.6.8.1 but if your feeling edgy then upgrade to CyanogenMod v. 3.9.1...obviously Root your G1 first and then flash Cyanogen's Recovery Image v. 1.4 to complete the ROM. Everything you need is here in XDA-Developers/Dream...have fun.
P.S. Since your a fan of Hero also, once your done everything I recommend flashing the Dark Hero theme.
Im kind of a fan boy myself i would say try haykuro's 5.0.2h or g build they stable and are the best looking roms without needing a theme or skin. Features are great its way to go if you ask mr or try his ion rom its fast and very stable but you lose features like exchange and a pdf viewer, etc.
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Im kind of a fan boy myself i would say try haykuro's 5.0.2h or g build they stable and are the best looking roms without needing a theme or skin. Features are great its way to go if you ask mr or try his ion rom its fast and very stable but you lose features like exchange and a pdf viewer, etc.
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The benefit you get with Cyanogen though is that he is constantly updating his ROM to make it faster and more stable.
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The benefit you get with Cyanogen though is that he is constantly updating his ROM to make it faster and more stable.
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+1 cyan 3.6.8.1 is great
cyanogen's rom is the best very stable n fast.
Recommend the CRC1 Based ROM here Or cyanogen!
I appreciate all the suggestions. I am still waiting for my SD card to arrive I am receiving an 8 gig card, what partition layout would best suite Cynogenmod?
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I appreciate all the suggestions. I am still waiting for my SD card to arrive I am receiving an 8 gig card, what partition layout would best suite Cynogenmod?
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fat32, ext2 (upgrade to ext3 using upgrade_fs command in recovery console). You can throw in linux-swap but you'll have to configure it your self with a a2sd script.
What size for each? Can I not start with ext3? My desktop is running Ubuntu.
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What size for each? Can I not start with ext3? My desktop is running Ubuntu.
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Use gparted. Ext3 should be about 600-700mb so give the rest for fat32. You must start with fat32 and then ext3. Must be in that order.
I recommend the Rogers Roms, they are designed for the Dream (G1) hardware and have the HTC Dialer and Exchange support (which Cyans will probably never have). Are super fast and stable.
How does the HTC dialer differ? Is there a "best" Rogers ROM?
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How does the HTC dialer differ? Is there a "best" Rogers ROM?
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bump for an answer to this?
Best rogers rom is Soulife's... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523608
HTC Dialer looks up contacts as you are dialing, it's really slick. You can type out a name via the numbers, or a number, it'll sort and bring up the matches from contacts. Soulife's rogers is MEGA stable, no force closes, lightning fast with the bonus features like Exchange and HTC Dialer.
Plus there is a version that doesn't require the new SPL if you wish to not risk a brick. In my opinion, this outshines Cyan's.
It comes stock with normal/factory theme. If you want there is a kickass Hero theme available as well for the ROM.
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I recommend the Rogers Roms, they are designed for the Dream (G1) hardware and have the HTC Dialer and Exchange support (which Cyans will probably never have). Are super fast and stable.
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Cyans roms have exchange support through an app called Work Email (pulled from a MyTouch), even in the stable 3.6.8.1 build. Although, 4.0 Stable is just around the corner, and its been significantly improved since the last STABLE release. Depends what you are looking for.....I've become somewhat fond of Cyanogen's constant updating, but the choice is yours....+1 for open source and CyanogenMod STABLE release
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Cyans roms have exchange support through an app called Work Email (pulled from a MyTouch), even in the stable 3.6.8.1 build. Although, 4.0 Stable is just around the corner, and its been significantly improved since the last STABLE release. Depends what you are looking for.....I've become somewhat fond of Cyanogen's constant updating, but the choice is yours....+1 for open source and CyanogenMod STABLE release
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Work Email is not a real exchange a solution. It doesn't sync contacts or calendar.
You can get replacement dialers as well that also serch contacts when dialing... Its certainly one feature I miss from my N95 along with fast global search. I used an app once which enabled global search on the homescreen and it worked like a charm, sadly I've forgotten what it was called as I now use QuickDial for direct calls, texts and as a shortcut home for most used apps.
Going back to the original question though I haven't flashed any Hero ROMs due to speed (no matter how tempting it is!) so can only vouch for the Cupcake releases. As it stands Cyanogen's is the most recent and stable out there however Dude is also returning soon. If I had to pick one ROM then it would be Cyanogen's (Stable version, unless you're happy to deal with issues then pick the Experimental one).
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You can get replacement dialers as well that also serch contacts when dialing... Its certainly one feature I miss from my N95 along with fast global search. I used an app once which enabled global search on the homescreen and it worked like a charm, sadly I've forgotten what it was called as I now use QuickDial for direct calls, texts and as a shortcut home for most used apps.
Going back to the original question though I haven't flashed any Hero ROMs due to speed (no matter how tempting it is!) so can only vouch for the Cupcake releases. As it stands Cyanogen's is the most recent and stable out there however Dude is also returning soon. If I had to pick one ROM then it would be Cyanogen's (Stable version, unless you're happy to deal with issues then pick the Experimental one).
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Dude is actually working on Soulife's Rogers ROM now.
What do you guys think? Do you wanna have a Android ROM, and please tell why.
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What do you guys think? Do you wanna have a Android ROM, and please tell why.
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Because in can make this phone useable...
Yes, because I would like to have a smooth operating system.
+1 to the idea but i think the problems with backlight should be top priority
Not yet, because many things are not working and for example now you can restart device and use WM for gps. This would not be possible with rom.
But when most things are sorted out, ROM would be a great option.
I agree with you matejdro, android is working okay now but not good enough. A couple of things aren't working which are important to use.
i think before a ROM can even be considered, android needs to be able to recognise all hardware and then it needs to be able to work with all hardware. once android is at this stage, it could then be made into a ROM.
Nice system to use and two xperia one with wm one with Android, but too manny issue yet
Yes, I would very much like to see an Android ROM for the Xperia, for the following reasons:
1. I don't like WinMo that much, and I would be happy to replace it on my Xperia altogether in favor of my favorite OS.
2. It's over a year since I last used the Xperia as my main device, and I mainly use it for experimentation now, so I wouldn't mind an Android ROM even if the port still is a bit buggy.
3. You wouldn't have to launch Haret in order to run it.
4. Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you launch Android through Haret, it isn't run concurrently with Windows Mobile, right? But still, having a dedicated ROM ought to speed up Android a bit, when it's not launched through WinMo.
5. The internal storage is faster than memory cards, so that would speed up things a bit as well.
I'm really looking forward to an Android ROM, just wish I could do more to help making it
Thanks
Yes, but, it is needed a working screen light/bluetooth/gps/headphones
it is still not working in android.
But, i wouldn't rewrite ROM to android. For me is better to use heater.exe. 2 minutes(just like windows) and android is ready!
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Yes, but, it is needed a working screen light/bluetooth/gps/headphones
it is still not working in android.
But, i wouldn't rewrite ROM to android. For me is better to use heater.exe. 2 minutes(just like windows) and android is ready!
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u mean HaRET not heater right? xD
indy.89 said:
i think before a ROM can even be considered, android needs to be able to recognise all hardware and then it needs to be able to work with all hardware. once android is at this stage, it could then be made into a ROM.
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but before making a ROM every thing wud e fixed then only a ROM can be made out of it not before fixing every thing
broknheart_008 said:
but before making a ROM every thing wud e fixed then only a ROM can be made out of it not before fixing every thing
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thats not true, you could probably make a ROM out of android as it is now, you just wouldnt have windows mobile to fall back on, and your battery would drain instantly!
Yes, but ill wait till all things will be fixed.
Xperia is the perfect phone for android rom.
The disign and construction is thinner and most elegant than any other android phone, even nexus....
I can donate for working rom, and also be an betta tester.
+1
Yeah I would really like to have an Android rom for my Xperia. There are no good phones with qwerty keyboards on Android. Couple of HTC phones have keyboard and Android on them, but their hardware is not impressive at all.
I might be getting a Xperia X10 soon, but it doesn't have a keyboard. I find keyboard is important for me, but there is no point in buying phones like HTC hero as I have X1.
As long as Samsung S pro doesn't comes out I would love have an Android ROM on my X1.
rom instead of windows
it would be nice to see it in reverse, android rom working as main boot and run windows on sd card
so if you need to have gps, or send mms (TP2 you cant) so if you can here I did not say a thing.
anyways whatever is not working and you really really need to use it then boot winmobile.
+1 on beta test. I do not have a gsm carrier, but if selected I will go and buy a prepaid sim or just pay month to month on the new tmobile plan
pm me thanks
but to answer your question why a rom, the battery is a drain huge. and just love to show it to the others "Droid" users, what their device CAN'T
I WANA HAVE IT I WANNA HAVE IT!!!!
But i WAnt to have the HERO interface on my X1..i really really like Hero...
circleofomega said:
I WANA HAVE IT I WANNA HAVE IT!!!!
But i WAnt to have the HERO interface on my X1..i really really like Hero...
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HERO INTERFACE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641021
dexteral said:
HERO INTERFACE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641021
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This didnt work for me :S
It booted but was stuck on the HTC Hero boot-up screen... Then it looped repeatedly...
Any help?
I've recently purchased an HTC Vogue (Bell) and wasn't recommended to stray to Android ROMs as this is really my first time around, however, I was really impressed by the themes and how clean the interface looked.
I am currently on WM 6.1 and contemplating updating to 6.5+ or to Android. Some problems about 6.1 that I really didn't like were: the SMALL keyboard, bland looking threaded txt msgs, inability to play youtube (among other video/audio files) out the box.
I'd love to give Android a go, but wouldn't know where to start (must have apps/games, familiarity with OS, etc).
Any suggestions and help would be awesome.
Thanks!
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I've recently purchased an HTC Vogue (Bell) and wasn't recommended to stray to Android ROMs as this is really my first time around, however, I was really impressed by the themes and how clean the interface looked.
I am currently on WM 6.1 and contemplating updating to 6.5+ or to Android. Some problems about 6.1 that I really didn't like were: the SMALL keyboard, bland looking threaded txt msgs, inability to play youtube (among other video/audio files) out the box.
I'd love to give Android a go, but wouldn't know where to start (must have apps/games, familiarity with OS, etc).
Any suggestions and help would be awesome.
Thanks!
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Go with an SD card build mate, you can test android out while leaving windows mobile untouched!, plenty of FAQ's and stuff on this forum to sort you out
Just install Android on Nand. It takes 10 minutes to flash back to winmo if you don't like it.
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Just install Android on Nand. It takes 10 minutes to flash back to winmo if you don't like it.
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Run haret off the SD card first, all it takes to go back to winmo is a simple reboot
r3ddrag0nx said:
I've recently purchased an HTC Vogue (Bell) and wasn't recommended to stray to Android ROMs
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Who recommended you not "stray" to android roms? They must be crazy..... Honestly, from your dislikes of winmo, you will LOVE android, trust me. It has gotten to the point where it seems almost native to the device. I would look up tatnai's FAQ and try the sdcard/haret method just to get a good feel so you're not committed to a full flash. But I guarantee you'll be wanting to go to a full flash within no time.
See this thread for instructions, etc.: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628353
If you just want to try Android out, run it off of your SD card. Once you're ready to permanently move to Android, then you can install it to NAND. Keep in mind it's a bit laggier off of the SD card and the battery performance is worse.
Does Android support Divx, Xvid, quicktime, AVIs, and various other types of video/audio?
Well, it can play youtube videos. Divx and avi (not too sure about).
Personally, this is why i switched to android:
Apps! Apps! Apps!
Widgets and icons
Fast and fluid interface
Its modern and up to date
Vogue Community seems to be shifting android (personal gut feeling)
Not having to worry about customizing my phone as much as i did with windows mobile.
Subtle android features that windows mobile on vogue doesnt have (i.e. animation when you open and close apps, slide down notification curton, web based apps )
Android is Perfect for My everyday use
What i miss from Windows Mobile:
My Garmin GPS
Taking Higher resolution/ better quality pictures.
I may be missing things... someone who is android biased help me out!
One more reason to love android "Sense UI"
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Here are some screenshots.
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wow... sense is epic... sucks i just flashed to 6.5 too.
i kno winmo has a lot of apps too just gotta find some nice ones to install now on b-rom's release (mighty fine release too).
gps doesnt work on android yet?
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wow... sense is epic... sucks i just flashed to 6.5 too.
i kno winmo has a lot of apps too just gotta find some nice ones to install now on b-rom's release (mighty fine release too).
gps doesnt work on android yet?
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gps works great on android, it actually gets a better fix on android then on winmo
I recently switched to Android on my vogue and love it! Sd card install just to make sure you like it, then nand.
i have been experimenting with droid since i got my Vogue a year ago with haret. the beauty of droid is its smooth and clean, and its not M$. there are pros and cons to both... first ill suggest get off 6.1- there is no hope for that build. there are plenty of builds either here or on ppcgeeks.com you can pick and choose what you want to or not to have. now you can also flash android NAND here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636024
i prefer android hero builds as i feel they are just 'cooler' but i ran into an issue with the last build i used and have been experimenting with some of the other builds out there. currently using MYN's warm donut located
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619980
there are some pretty cool themes there as well.
from the skeptics and paranoid perspective, i read and read for months until i flashed my first rom. dont do anything til you are ready. there are plenty of smart folks here to help you.
read read read, subscribe, and ask questions when you need to.
also remember, the search tab is your friend, i can almost guarantee, if you have a problem (android or otherwise) someone has morethan likely had it. there are a couple where there are new threads needed.
i cant express enough, there are alot of good folks here to help if you need it. they made a believer out of me!!
do your research, and move at your own comfort level.
best of luck
YEahh.. i'm in the same boat as you.. like i love android, and all my friends have it on there droid eris.. but i'm affraid to flash, and not be able to go back (if needed). Like can i go back? and is everything working on 1.6 android build?? (like texts, calls, and camera?) i'm reading, but some of this stuff is just SO confusing..
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YEahh.. i'm in the same boat as you.. like i love android, and all my friends have it on there droid eris.. but i'm affraid to flash, and not be able to go back (if needed). Like can i go back? and is everything working on 1.6 android build?? (like texts, calls, and camera?) i'm reading, but some of this stuff is just SO confusing..
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Just use haret, it's not rocket science, or even hard.
MarkkInNj said:
YEahh.. i'm in the same boat as you.. like i love android, and all my friends have it on there droid eris.. but i'm affraid to flash, and not be able to go back (if needed). Like can i go back? and is everything working on 1.6 android build?? (like texts, calls, and camera?) i'm reading, but some of this stuff is just SO confusing..
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i thought everything was pretty confusing at first too. its actually all pretty simple. everything works on 1.6 except camcorder/mms(sending works on verizon and receiving works on sprint)/wifi. i was scared to death when i flashed android to my phone but its as easy as 123. just try android from your sdcard first and if you like it(which you will) then you can do some research on how to flash it.
Can I use a 4GB card to try Android from SD on a Bell Vogue (XV6900?) or do I require a 2GB micro sd card?
Also, if I decide to actually flash the phone, do I need to unlock it first, then install Android to NAND?
I have been doing so much reading, I am getting confused...easy to confuse an old guy!
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Can I use a 4GB card to try Android from SD on a Bell Vogue (XV6900?) or do I require a 2GB micro sd card?
Also, if I decide to actually flash the phone, do I need to unlock it first, then install Android to NAND?
I have been doing so much reading, I am getting confused...easy to confuse an old guy!
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you can install android with any sd card, but you can only flash a rom from sd card with a 2gb size and lower.
if you do just a haret run then you don't need to unlock, however when you install to NAND you do have to unlock it inorder to flash a rom
Made the jump from SD to NAND today and have to say its running faster and better than ever. Its worth the jump.
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i thought everything was pretty confusing at first too. its actually all pretty simple. everything works on 1.6 except camcorder/mms(sending works on verizon and receiving works on sprint)/wifi. i was scared to death when i flashed android to my phone but its as easy as 123. just try android from your sdcard first and if you like it(which you will) then you can do some research on how to flash it.
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Hmm.. maybe thats why i cant recieve a text on my sd lol i have verizon. But people can get them but it gives me an error message. But i need texting..
Hmmm..
By installing the new ROM my phone works better and faster, no lagg.
But I understand that it can be even better...
I have deleted bloatware (using root explorer) and at this point have not reinstalled many of my apps (waiting for the next DC ROM release)
How can I find how much free space / memory I have left on my phone?
RAM, MB, etc?
I have read that if you monitor the use of space then it will be a fine tune machine.
I read about Ap2sd and that might help? Others say it doesnt beacuse it slows the response time when running an app.
Any words of wisdom?
Thanks
Any help will be appreciated.
I know, I know...DB comment but get an EVO. No substitute for raw horsepower.
4 Things.
1. Over Clock
2. JIT
3. Remove Sense (optional)
4. Class 6 SD card, not a cheap-o
should be in q/a or general forum. not here for future reference this forum is really for devs and ROM discussion only...not general questions like this.
with that said...
each person could probably give you their own ways of tinkering with their ROM and making it "faster".
You can download systraymonitor from the market, which gives you RAM/MEMORY/BATTERY, etc.
A2SD could be beneficial if you are installing more than 25+ apps, as it allows your system memory to combine with a partition of your SD card, thus keeping available memory higher, which leaves plenty of room for browser cache, app cache, etc.
Welcome to the wonderful world of ROMs for our Hero.
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should be in q/a or general forum. not here for future reference this forum is really for devs and ROM discussion only...not general questions like this.
with that said...
each person could probably give you their own ways of tinkering with their ROM and making it "faster".
You can download systraymonitor from the market, which gives you RAM/MEMORY/BATTERY, etc.
A2SD could be beneficial if you are installing more than 25+ apps, as it allows your system memory to combine with a partition of your SD card, thus keeping available memory higher, which leaves plenty of room for browser cache, app cache, etc.
Welcome to the wonderful world of ROMs for our Hero.
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Thank you for your input. Will check that app.
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By installing the new ROM my phone works better and faster, no lagg.
But I understand that it can be even better...
I have deleted bloatware (using root explorer) and at this point have not reinstalled many of my apps (waiting for the next DC ROM release)
How can I find how much free space / memory I have left on my phone?
RAM, MB, etc?
I have read that if you monitor the use of space then it will be a fine tune machine.
I read about Ap2sd and that might help? Others say it doesnt beacuse it slows the response time when running an app.
Any words of wisdom?
Thanks
Any help will be appreciated.
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ap2sd only helps really if you have a fast sd (ie aftermarket class 6 or 10) but ap2sd is mainly to free up space, you won't notice a preformance boost this way.... at least I haven't even with a class 6 card. It's just to allow you to install tons of apps.
android self manages it's ram but there are times where it doesn't do it very efficently, there's roms out there esp from flipz and darch that optimize the internal task killer/memory management to give a more fluid expereince.
I would reccomend agianst a task manager as I've had nothing but problems with it.
as far as making it faster look for roms that have JIT, BFS, and/or overclock. Mind you each one of these removes stability from a stock based rom, they're not perfect but they are pretty nice. And in my opinion the leeway you give is worth the benifit with that type of thing. But each one of those has a significant preformance boost advantage. BFS being what I reccognize as the biggest improvement in overall system preformance.
I would personally reccomend fresh toast, really research how to install it correctly but it's one of the best most stable I've personally tried. Next being my personal favorites darchdroid.
hope this helps.
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4 Things.
1. Over Clock
2. JIT
3. Remove Sense (optional)
4. Class 6 SD card, not a cheap-o
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Excuse my ignorance...I have heard of all the option but number 1.
Over Clock? I dont know what does that mean.
Thanks for the info though.
aisseleacim03 said:
Excuse my ignorance...I have heard of all the option but number 1.
Over Clock? I dont know what does that mean.
Thanks for the info though.
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short: makes your processor go faster than it was designed to do within proven stable(ish)/safe(ish) limits
long: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overclocking
Kcarpenter said:
1. Over Clock
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...at your own risk. My phone runs great without this. I don't think it's worth the risk of cooking my proc's bacon.
Grease Lightning yo!!!!
In all seriousness, if you wanna rev up your performance but at the expense of our already limited battery life, try out FreshToast 2.1 or if you want a clean trimmed vanilla feel try out DarchDroid and make sure you follow the directions for getting the OC app configured (OC Widget or SetCPU)
That'll definitely give you the max possible bang out of your phone. Buyer beware, these roms are not without their quirks, so please for the love of NY Cheesecake (oh hush, haven't eaten since 8am this morning heh) read through each of the respective threads to hunt down and possibly cure the kinks that plague your configuration.
Thread Moved to Q&A.
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...at your own risk. My phone runs great without this. I don't think it's worth the risk of cooking my proc's bacon.
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Ive had my phone overclocked to the max the last few days. Running smooth. I underclock while phone is sleeping
I made mine 3x faster by picking a rom with no sense, rm EVERY apk that I don't use ( friendstream, flickr, tweet, etc...everything except what I USE) and apps2sd. I run a buke naked pure hero, installed apps i DO want,and it never lags. I Only get 2.2 mflops
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Honeycomb on Nook is awesome, the work done here is impressive. Congratulations!
I want to try it out, giving a Nook Honeycomb, and use it instead of a Moto Xoom (it's impressive, but I doesn't need the big screen, HDMI, cameras, dual-core CPU...)
what I need is a small tablet so that I can:
# browse and read news etc.
# use Gmail
# watch a few videos (YouTube or files)
# maybe read e-books (Kindle, B&N)
# run various small apps (maybe some games) - from Android Market
And I want:
# 6" or 7" display
# low weight
# long battery life
# WiFi
# 3G through a Bluetooth connection to my phone
# and low cost
Thats not an 800 USD Xoom for that. But a Nook with HoneyComb!
I'm not a developer but a relatively technical user, so I'm not afraid of buying a Nook and try out some stuff.
But I have som questions and would like some input. I may have misunderstood things and I apologize for stupid questions.
First decisions/questions:
1; what is eMMC? I can see that I should choose between SD or EmmC, so this is probably a fairly basic decision.
2; I gather I need to choose which port of Honeycomb to use. Right? (I have listed a few below).
3; it appears to be possible to either boot Android Honeycomb from the SD-card. Does that mean I can use the Nook as it was delivered if the SD card isn't present?
4; Is there any other basic decisions I need to take?
There's lots of posts here, and I've been reading back and forth, and from what I see this is what I need:
# get a Nook
# get a microSD card. Is there any recommendations?
# get a Honeycomb image/build. Could be:
-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936995 by deeper-blue
-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925451 by dalingrin
-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954902 by phiredrop
# overclock the Nook to 1 or 1.1 GHz
# Disabling B&N OTA updates (or is this done automatically?)
# Dualboot?
# Installing various apps
# Network using Bluetooth - how?
Is this too deep water for me or should I plunge in?!
I personally think that you should dive in. Now first emmc is the name of the nooks internal memory.
I would recommend buying one and first using a micro SD to boot honeycomb and decide if you want to run it. It's a great port and great os but its not prime time yet on the nook.. I use it only, and even with its faults it is too 'tablet friendly' for me to switch.
YouTube is tricky at best. Ill let someone with more experience post about it. In my experience it's not real reliable for some reason
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I love my nook color, and it has a bright future. But u mentioned you wanted 3g and Bluetooth. Those are not available as of yet on nook color. I'm not sure if it has those internal components or not.
But it is a very capable device. Mine is setup comparable to the galaxy tab I would say, after rooting it and adding a custom rom.
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Thanks for the answers so far!
I can live without 3G/BlueTooth.
And I can live without YouTube. That will probably fixed along the way.
Is the current Honeycomb builds based on a prerelease SDK or is considered a final release?
Caspar07 said:
Thanks for the answers so far!
I can live without 3G/BlueTooth.
And I can live without YouTube. That will probably fixed along the way.
Is the current Honeycomb builds based on a prerelease SDK or is considered a final release?
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You can't use bluetooth for data, but you could certainly tether your nook to your smartphone. That's what I plan to do when I find myself without a wireless connection.
EDIT: Oh and you could visit the actual youtube website if you have flash installed (on a 2.2 or higher ROM).
Definately dive in. Buy a few microSD cards. Start by rooting the stock firmware and play with a launcher and the market. It's the most stable.
Install Honeycomb on an SD card and boot it. It's not bad but will be much improved in the next few weeks.
No bluetooth yet but you can wifi tether to your phone if your phone supports it.
BanditRider said:
Start by rooting the stock firmware and play with a launcher and the market. It's the most stable.
Install Honeycomb on an SD card and boot it. It's not bad but will be much improved in the next few weeks.
No bluetooth yet but you can wifi tether to your phone if your phone supports it.
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"Rooting stock firmware"?
Does that mean sort of copying the firmware, so You can restore later?
Again: good replies, much appreciated
To get you started.
At $250, the Nook Color sucks as an eReader. But as an android tablet, its the best purchase you could make. Nothing else comes close. Some notes on your comments.
1. The Nook Color(NC) has a boot priority to the microSD card, making it nearly impossible to 'brick.' I'd reccommend having two sd cards. A good class 10 one for your daily use, and a cheap 1gb one to keep a copy of clockwork recovery for quick repairs.
2. The bluetooth doesn't work, even though the device has the hardware. At this point, there is no speculation of it working in the forseeable future. HOWEVER, it works great using the WiFi hotspot on my HTC evo.
3. The device will run android 2.1 (eclair), 2.2 (froyo), 2.3 (gingerbread), and 3.0 (Honeycomb). All four have their issues. I've tested them all thoroughly, and prefer the standard 2.1 (also called stock NC) build for its stability. Feel free to try them all.
IF YOU SHOULD BUY ONE:
Instructions to root
Instructions to build a recovery SD card
Instructions on how to make root stock NC work well for you
Remember these links. They'll save you the hours of time I lost.
YouTube and Flash work perfectly for me on the 2.2 phiremod beta2 rom. I would say it is pretty stable. But if one is new to root they should just get used to rooting first. We are also over at androidtablets if you need help http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/nook/
The above link for rooting seems broken. Here is the NookDevs links http://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Rooting *edit nevermind it's working sorry
Thank you
I've not yet done any recover steps after auto nootering a few weeks ago. This is going to help me go do these steps this weekend.
Tethering is going to be something i need come summer vacation where there's no connection any place, i have the MOTO Droid, and PDANet, so i'll try that some day soon, see if it holds up.
admiralnorman said:
At $250, the Nook Color sucks as an eReader. But as an android tablet, its the best purchase you could make. Nothing else comes close. Some notes on your comments.
1. The Nook Color(NC) has a boot priority to the microSD card, making it nearly impossible to 'brick.' I'd reccommend having two sd cards. A good class 10 one for your daily use, and a cheap 1gb one to keep a copy of clockwork recovery for quick repairs.
2. The bluetooth doesn't work, even though the device has the hardware. At this point, there is no speculation of it working in the forseeable future. HOWEVER, it works great using the WiFi hotspot on my HTC evo.
3. The device will run android 2.1 (eclair), 2.2 (froyo), 2.3 (gingerbread), and 3.0 (Honeycomb). All four have their issues. I've tested them all thoroughly, and prefer the standard 2.1 (also called stock NC) build for its stability. Feel free to try them all.
IF YOU SHOULD BUY ONE:
Instructions to root
Instructions to build a recovery SD card
Instructions on how to make root stock NC work well for you
Remember these links. They'll save you the hours of time I lost.
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You need to use an Adhoc method to tether droid to autonootered nook I believe. It doesn't work as is right off the bat with a 2.1 nook color and droid1.
Caspar07 said:
....But I have som questions and would like some input. I may have misunderstood things and I apologize for stupid questions.
First decisions/questions:
1; what is eMMC? I can see that I should choose between SD or EmmC, so this is probably a fairly basic decision.
2; I gather I need to choose which port of Honeycomb to use. Right? (I have listed a few below).
3; it appears to be possible to either boot Android Honeycomb from the SD-card. Does that mean I can use the Nook as it was delivered if the SD card isn't present?
4; Is there any other basic decisions I need to take?
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I was in the same boat... wanted a tablet to do pretty much what you are looking for... after reading the threads here, I got a Nookcolor...
1.. eMMC is the Nook's internal memory, where its current/stock B&N OS and apps are stored and run from. If you wanted to use a "custom rom" like Froyo, Gingerbread, Honeycomb, you could install it to eMMC, overwriting the stock B&N stuff... BUT you don't have to.
2. Right now, the honeycomb ports out there are based on the Pre-Release SDK (software dev kit), and made to work on an actual device, i.e. the NookColor. Because of this, it has some limits and bugs. The best HC Ports will come once HC goes AOSP (hopefully soon since the XOOM, which uses HC, is now for sale).
3. The NookColor is setup to try and boot from MicroSD card first, and if no OS on MicroSD, then boot off the eMMC. So, you could load up a card with another OS, play with it, and NOT TOUCH the stock B&N stuff... just pop the card in when you want to boot the other OS, and pop it out when you want to go "stock" (that is what I'm doing now).
This also means you can make up a MicroSD card strictly for the purpose of recovering/reloading the OS on your NookColor if something goes wrong when trying to install an alternate OS to the eMMC. (i.e. helps you "unbrick" your device).
Note: when getting a MicroSD card to boot an alternate OS from, its generally better to get a higher class card as they are usually faster (means the OS runs faster/smoother). But some of the lessor known brands often don't live up to their class ratings. And there have been issues with some people getting certain Class 10 (fastest) 16gig cards, so you'll have to do some home work, searching and reading the threads to decide on which card to buy.
4. You have many choices to make. Do you want to run stock B&N os/firmware (Eclair/2.1) as is out of the box? Do you want to root the stock OS and add your own apps? Do you want to try one of the Froyo (2.2), Gingerbread (2.3, the CM7 builds) or Honeycomb (3.0) ports and do you want to run them from MicroSD (slower) or eMMC (faster)?
While Wifi works with each Froyo and HC build I've tried, Bluetooth doesn't work with any of them.
Each port of Froyo, Gingerbread and HC has its own positives and negatives, so you have to investigate and figure out which one works best for you as a daily driver.
Me, I left the stock B&N NookColor OS and Apps untouched, and loaded up one MicroSD (Sandisk 8G class4) with Froyo following this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922324
And I loaded up another MicroSD card using the HC Preview v4, but it didn't meet my needs, so I'm waiting on the AOSP of HC to try again.
admiralnorman said:
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3. The device will run android 2.1 (eclair), 2.2 (froyo), 2.3 (gingerbread), and 3.0 (Honeycomb). All four have their issues. I've tested them all thoroughly, and prefer the standard 2.1 (also called stock NC) build for its stability. Feel free to try them all.
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Remember these links. They'll save you the hours of time I lost.
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Great help - thanks.
Still one question:
Is lack of stability in Honeycomb due to the fact that it's still early and very new, or is it due to incompatible hardware?
This is getting increasingly interesting
Caspar07 said:
Great help - thanks.
Still one question:
Is lack of stability in Honeycomb due to the fact that it's still early and very new, or is it due to incompatible hardware?
This is getting increasingly interesting
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Not really. Its kind of a developer's platform. So its made to run on a generic android device. As the programmer type people around here play with it, it gets better and better.
Sent from my HTC Evo 4g using XDA App
KidJoe said:
I was in the same boat... wanted a tablet to do pretty much what you are looking for... after reading the threads here, I got a Nookcolor...
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And I loaded up another MicroSD card using the HC Preview v4, but it didn't meet my needs, so I'm waiting on the AOSP of HC to try again.
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Thanks for the lengthy answer. That was a helpful explanation.
Caspar07 said:
Great help - thanks.
Still one question:
Is lack of stability in Honeycomb due to the fact that it's still early and very new, or is it due to incompatible hardware?
This is getting increasingly interesting
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The devs currently do not have the Honeycomb source. What exists now has been pieced together from the emulator and is glitchy. Once they have the source (which should be soon as the XOOM is out now) we should begin to see improvements in HC roms.
Also, please recognize that not everyone has stability issues. I've been running the initial version of Sam's "flashable" Deeper Bulue image for 2 weeks, and don't have any stability issues.
It really depends on what apps you want to run. I have market working fine, with lots of apps downloaded. I did the ADHOC tweak early on, and can connect to wireless networks pretty much at will.
I read quite a bit, and spend a lot of "nook time" using it as an eReadr. I've worked my way through a number of books using the B&B Reader, Kindle, and Aldiko without any issues.
It's not a "production" image, but for me it works well.
admiralnorman said:
The bluetooth doesn't work, even though the device has the hardware. At this point, there is no speculation of it working in the forseeable future. HOWEVER, it works great using the WiFi hotspot on my HTC evo.
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Just got an execuse to buy myself a new gadget - a HTC Evo or similar
"Is the Nook Color the right Android tablet for me?"
I think the easiest way to answer this question is by how much you enjoy tinkering with things. If you want a tablet that "just works" then you'll want a Xoom or Galaxy Tab. But if you love playing and learning about how your gadgets work 'under the hood' then the Nook Color will be the best gadget purchase you've made in awhile.
I've honestly spent more time "getting it to work perfectly" than I have actually using it, but I've loved every minute of it. I won't lie, Java and/or Linux experience is a big plus, but by no means necessary.
admiralnorman said:
At $250, the Nook Color sucks as an eReader. But as an android tablet, its the best purchase you could make. Nothing else comes close.
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I just bought a Nook Color about a half hour ago and this post made me feel so much better about it. I've been debating it for some time and decided to take the plunge. I was worried that I might be late to the game but it has only been out for like 3 months.
Can anyone point me in the direction of Honeycomb for the NC? EDIT: Unless someone recommends a better ROM for now?
By the way, my name is Raj and I'll be spending lots of time here!