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Broke Tilt in half

So one of my friends at work had an att tilt. However his son dropped it out of his pants pocket and the screen popped off. Screen is still in one piece however completly seperated from the tilt mechanism and the ribbon cable is missing. So I told him instead of throwing it away (cause att does not offer insurance) to give it to me and I'd see what I can do (Gonna unlock it and use it as an upgrade for my wing ).
I've read some of the hardware manuals and can already see I'll need parts to fix it. But I have no ideas what ones. Or if it's even worth it to fix. I mean its basically a free tilt minus any repair costs. Any help?

wshader said:
So one of my friends at work had an att tilt. However his son dropped it out of his pants pocket and the screen popped off. Screen is still in one piece however completly seperated from the tilt mechanism and the ribbon cable is missing. So I told him instead of throwing it away (cause att does not offer insurance) to give it to me and I'd see what I can do (Gonna unlock it and use it as an upgrade for my wing ).
I've read some of the hardware manuals and can already see I'll need parts to fix it. But I have no ideas what ones. Or if it's even worth it to fix. I mean its basically a free tilt minus any repair costs. Any help?
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Check thi site, there is a manual how to dismantle kaiser. Could be helpful:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live....smantling+%2f+Disassembling+Guides+HTC%2fETEN

Thank you, however thats actually the repair manual I looked at. However while looking for parts I have yet to find the ribbon cable that connects to the display.
This is basically what I have except the ribbon cable is missing. And alot of steps missing to get it this way.

wshader said:
Thank you, however thats actually the repair manual I looked at. However while looking for parts I have yet to find the ribbon cable that connects to the display.
This is basically what I have except the ribbon cable is missing.
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OMG, that had to hurt.

Yeah, kid was playing basketball and fell out of his pocket. I guess the kid has broke 4 phones this month... curve, tilt, 2 pantec duos. Told my friend to get him a $20 go-phone now lol. And use the savings to get me a tilt
I dont know what kind of damage besides the physical the drop may have caused. Phone was not on at the time so that may have helped it (I hope)

wshader said:
Yeah, and I dont know what kind of damage besides the physical the drop may have caused. Phone was not on at the time so that may have helped it (I hope)
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I hope u repair it. Wish u luck.

Without actually looking at it, its hard to say what exactly you need. But you for sure need a new flex cable. Unfortunately that is the hardest part to find. At least here in the US. I usually buy broken phones from people who don't want to pay for a repair. Then I use the parts from them. You can get a new housing easily enough if you need it but the flex cable will be your biggest hurdle.
I suggest trying to find one broken on ebay and using the 2 you have to make one working phone. Even a broken Tilt can run for $200 on ebay though.

Anyone notice that case has already been replaced at some stage as it has a camera hole (not standard for Tilts) a keyboard without the white part and no logo. Perhaps the replacement was weaker than the original one. If the O/P searches the forum here for LCD Screen replacements there's loads of links to different companies supplying parts for Kaiser variants. I have no experience using any of them though so cant suggest which ones are best.

@Planet Neo
Yeah I was thinking that but was hoping it wouldn't come to that. Would suck to spend $200 for parts just to find the motherboard is broke or something to that effect. Was hoping someone knew of a place to buy a new cable or had one to sell. Also was hoping someone with some experience could let me know if they think I'd need a new tilt assembly.
@Flying Kiwi
Lol, I used a picture from kaiser disassembly guide to show what i was referring to. It has the standard tilt case. I'll be taking pictures of what I have as soon as I have the phone in my possession.

Okay I assume that its going to be very hard to get the ribbon and you're going to need housing. I believe that it will be the same as making a new tilt, because the screen is as good as dead without the ribbon so all you could do is get new housing and a new screen and it should rack up about $150-200. Which in my opinion is much easier and faster and better than frustrating on getting a ribbon.
Just my 2 cents.
Kraize

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Without actually looking at it, its hard to say what exactly you need. But you for sure need a new flex cable. Unfortunately that is the hardest part to find. At least here in the US. I usually buy broken phones from people who don't want to pay for a repair. Then I use the parts from them. You can get a new housing easily enough if you need it but the flex cable will be your biggest hurdle.
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I'm sure you'll think I'm busting your balls / stalking you but hard to find? Hell no! Expensive, maybe ( $100) but hard to find? I think not. Good job you're not charging people for you expert advice else they'd be wanting refunds....how long did you say you'd been doing this for?
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=tytn+flex&category0=
You need a TYTN II flex. There are many other suppliers and if you go direct they may be a bit cheaper. google is your friend....
To check the board - connect to a windoze computer with a mini USB cable and power up or press the soft reset button to boot it - it should ident and install then try to sync. It should boot fine even with no LCD if it's OK assuming the battery still holds some charge.
A full housing will run you about $60. Some sellers have just front panels for about $40 though I'm unsure if these have the pivot.
M.S

Mysterious Stranger said:
I'm sure you'll think I'm busting your balls / stalking you but hard to find? Hell no! Expensive, maybe ( $100) but hard to find? I think not. Good job you're not charging people for you expert advice else they'd be wanting refunds....how long did you say you'd been doing this for?
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=tytn+flex&category0=
You need a TYTN II flex. There are many other suppliers and if you go direct they may be a bit cheaper. google is your friend....
To check the board - connect to a windoze computer with a mini USB cable and power up or press the soft reset button to boot it - it should ident and install then try to sync. It should boot fine even with no LCD if it's OK assuming the battery still holds some charge.
A full housing will run you about $60. Some sellers have just front panels for about $40 though I'm unsure if these have the pivot.
M.S
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Man, MS you really need to get off my nuts. It's getting creepy. I said in my post hard to find at least in the US. And the link you gave was for a seller in China. One more word of advice for the OP, Make sure this part actually works for the AT&T Tilt variant. I had a customer buy a Flex cable for the HTC Herald thinking it would work for the T-Mobile Wing but due to the modified button layout of the Wing it did not fit correctly. Much like this person HERE experienced.

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Man, MS you really need to get off my nuts. It's getting creepy. I said in my post hard to find at least in the US. And the link you gave was for a seller in China. One more word of advice for the OP, Make sure this part actually works for the AT&T Tilt variant. I had a customer buy a Flex cable for the HTC Herald thinking it would work for the T-Mobile Wing but due to the modified button layout of the Wing it did not fit correctly. Much like this person HERE experienced.
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These things are made in Shenzhen so where you think the parts come from?
Stop talking &*%(* and I'll stop correcting your posts Instead of saying something is a fact say it's your opinion. It's not a 'rare' part - and they ship WORLDWIDE. It's not as if he'll get one from a local mom and pop store - it's gonna be mail order wherever you get it from and looking at the seller's feedback is a good judge - all my parts come from China - so why pay a middleman such as yourself extra $ just so it has a US stamp on the package?
Someone needs to act as quality control on your posts and it looks like it's gonna have to be me if you keep posting [email protected]
M.S

Broken LCD

Hi Guys,
Last night my phone got damaged in an accident. The LCD is broken i think. but the digitizer is alright. I have run out of warranty so just wanted to know how much does the HTC service center charge for the repairing.
I am living in INDIA, Pune.
Also is there any way I can do it myself?

ebay tytn ii lcd... you should be able to find a couple... make sure you get a trox screw driver with it... its really simple to replace

HTC repair services are hard to come by, but there are some online services around $150 or so. you could find a screen on ebay for cheaper, but you will also need a T5, T6, and T7 torx screw drivers as well as tools to break the seam, and flat head and philips screw drivers, along with directions and about 3.5 hours of your time if you want to fix it yourself.

higherbeing said:
ebay tytn ii lcd... you should be able to find a couple... make sure you get a trox screw driver with it... its really simple to replace
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I found this listing
http://cgi.ebay.com/LCD-Touch-Scree...286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:15|39:1|240:1318
IS it so cheap?

mufazzal123 said:
I found this listing
http://cgi.ebay.com/LCD-Touch-Scree...286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:15|39:1|240:1318
IS it so cheap?
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Ummmm nope friend....thats just the digitizer. They generally run around 45$ or so.
This one looks pretty decent

thanks!
I hope this works. Also I read somewhere that there are two types of LCD,
Green and Normal.
Which one is this?

Take a look there:
http://cnn.cn/shop/8925-tilt-kaiser-c-277_448.html
I purchased one, my was broken too, its very cheap and delivery from China to Swizerland costs only 5$.

ziko said:
Take a look there:
http://cnn.cn/shop/8925-tilt-kaiser-c-277_448.html
I purchased one, my was broken too, its very cheap and delivery from China to Swizerland costs only 5$.
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That shows 75$ + 5 SHIP
What I linked was 36 + free ship.
I was trying to keep costs down for him lol

pyraxiate said:
Ummmm nope friend....thats just the digitizer. They generally run around 45$ or so.
This one looks pretty decent
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I already ordered that one. I got a offer of free shipping too.
But I will need the help of you guys to fix the screen, Because though I am a Mechanical Engg. I am not so expert in such delicate things.

Mike Channon Should be your friend then
Mike has got you covered for detailed pics and I thought he had vids on his site as well, found HERE. It truly is a simple task. I've done it on 1 Hermes and 2 Kaisers. I should put a shingle up for this kinda stuff !

Stu_Can_Sam said:
Mike has got you covered for detailed pics and I thought he had vids on his site as well, found HERE. It truly is a simple task. I've done it on 1 Hermes and 2 Kaisers. I should put a shingle up for this kinda stuff !
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Thanks. Doesn't look that easy. But I think Practical is always easier than theory

mufazzal123 said:
Thanks. Doesn't look that easy. But I think Practical is always easier than theory
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Ive taken apart my hermes about 50 times in total. It doesnt look like the kaiser is much harder. Ive had no need to as of yet. It might look a tad intimidating at first, but you should be fine. Just take careful to note what came from where as you disassemble it. Mikes guide is pretty in-depth do I would print it out and have a hard copy near you as you make the attempt

asrrin29 said:
HTC repair services are hard to come by, but there are some online services around $150 or so. you could find a screen on ebay for cheaper, but you will also need a T5, T6, and T7 torx screw drivers as well as tools to break the seam, and flat head and philips screw drivers, along with directions and about 3.5 hours of your time if you want to fix it yourself.
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It took me 35 mins while watching tv and checking emails.
so it may not that long...

It was much easier than I thought. However use the 'only four screw removal method' - no need to take two parts apart as mentioned in some of the instructions you will find here.
I was able to take out four screws, pry apart the two pieces (had to order the special pry tool) and just push up the LCD screen, remove the connecting cable and take it out by sliding it out.
See the following links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390724&page=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337102&page=5

Thank You guys for all your support and guidence.
I have fixed the LCD and yes it is very simple task, hardly took 30 min.

Need Parts for Nexus One

I cracked my screen so I decided to order a new one and fix it myself, while in the process I accidentally tore the top flex circuit board and now I can't find spare parts other than screens anywhere. Does anyone know where I can get some or have one that is broken I am willing to pay ...

Hate when **** like that happens. . . try to fix something and something doesn't go right.
Not sure where you can get the parts you're looking for, but wanted to give props to you for taking the initiative to try and fix it yourself. Alot of people will be like "that's what you get for not just sending it back to HTC and having them fix it." How're you going to appreciate the intricacies of something if you don't take the occasional risk like this?
Hope you find what you're looking for.
Ps. Have you looked at http://www.monoprice.com/home/index.asp to see if there's anything you could repurpose to work?

Ha yea, I am definitely a DIY-er. Unfortunately this is a risk I knew I was taking heading into it, wasn't too worried though because I have fixed a lot of cell phones in the past, just got a little too careless with prying open with a flat head screw driver, it slipped and cut right into the flex circuit board. Should have been a little more careful haha. New screen looks great though! Now only if I could get it to power on! Of course HTC tells me it will cost up to $300 to send it to them to fix it.

http://www.lunacommerce.com/154-nexus-one
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=7921c16b7b46096e&hl=en

Not sure exactly, but is this what you are looking for? http://cnn.cn/shop/google-nexus-digitizer-p-8252.html

Yea I tried that number and also that lunacommerce site is located in China, no prices on their website, no way to purchase anything other than contacting them first (which I have tried to no avail...). You would think some online store somewhere would have started selling spare refurbished parts. Whatever, guess I will have to pay HTC to fix it, kinda sucky.

If you find somewhere that can help you, please post back. I just had a similar experience, replaced the digitizer and the display wouldn't work afterwards. Figured I had damaged the AMOLED, so purchased another. Problem still persisted.
I've decided that I must have damaged the AMOLED connector on the logic board.
The upside is I can still use the phone when connected to a PC and using Android Screen Monitor.
So now I've ordered another Nexus One, I find it hard to get by without my daily Android.... it became an expensive drop of the phone.

Kman Gymrat said:
Not sure exactly, but is this what you are looking for? http://cnn.cn/shop/google-nexus-digitizer-p-8252.html
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No that is what I replaced in the first place. I am looking for the Logic Board. I will keep searching and update this thread if I ever figure it out. Going on 3 days without a phone and only being able to use Google Voice via my computer is starting to drive me insane!

Dropped captivate, screen had purple spots, then black :(

Hello
I recently dropped my Samsung Captivate. First time it had purple spots on the screen in 1 day the whole screen went purple and the next day the whole screen went black The sensor and everything else is working.
How do you think, what may be the issue of this? is the screen completely screwed or there may be another, less important damage.

Lejolasho said:
Hello
I recently dropped my Samsung Captivate. First time it had purple spots on the screen in 1 day the whole screen went purple and the next day the whole screen went black The sensor and everything else is working.
How do you think, what may be the issue of this? is the screen completely screwed or there may be another, less important damage.
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My guess is that you'll have to replace the digitaliser. You can do it yourself or contact mobiletechvideos.com for the job.
If you have any experience in it though, you can try opening your phone and see if anything isn't correctly connected.

BWolf56 said:
My guess is that you'll have to replace the digitaliser. You can do it yourself or contact mobiletechvideos.com for the job.
If you have any experience in it though, you can try opening your phone and see if anything isn't correctly connected.
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did you mean the whole lcd?

Pretty sure it would be easier to replace the digitizer + screen, since I think they're glued together on the captivate? (correct me if I'm wrong).
It's about $75. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Cap...izer-i896-AT-T-Galaxy-S-Display-/160787040070

Lejolasho said:
did you mean the whole lcd?
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Pretty sure it would be easier to replace the digitizer + screen, since I think they're glued together on the captivate? (correct me if I'm wrong).
It's about $75. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Cap...izer-i896-AT-T-Galaxy-S-Display-/160787040070
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You would have to replace both, yes.

BWolf56 said:
You would have to replace both, yes.
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At the cost of replace them both i can buy a captivate in better condition i did hope, that there could be another issue. thank you guys.

You can...? Please shoot me a link...haha .

x0ne215 said:
You can...? Please shoot me a link...haha .
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Yeah, I'd like to grab a spare if they are sitting that cheap now.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using xda app-developers app

As far as I've seen, the cheapest I got mine was $80. Bad idea, too many issues, wasted money. Buying anywhere but swappa they're about 150$+. Swappa has one for $135 (hoping to buy that one actually, but either have to wait a week and hope someone doesn't buy it, or sell my pantech crossover faster so I have the money haha).

x0ne215 said:
As far as I've seen, the cheapest I got mine was $80. Bad idea, too many issues, wasted money. Buying anywhere but swappa they're about 150$+. Swappa has one for $135 (hoping to buy that one actually, but either have to wait a week and hope someone doesn't buy it, or sell my pantech crossover faster so I have the money haha).
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You just have to put "i897" or similar as an ebay saved search that notifies you when new products matching that description are posted.
I bought 1 cappy for $60 from ebay seller alltechwholesale, out of Texas I think. In my experience, they do a good job inspecting the phones first so you know what your going to get. In my experience and many others, the phone arrived in better condition than described....Then I picked up two more sold together on ebay for $70 that were listed as one bad digitizer and the other bad charge port. I got them as parts phones. The one with the "bad digitizer" ended up being just a bad search button because the screen lifted on that corner a little. A 50 cent tube of adhesive fixed that. Then the second of the two just had a dirty charge port and a squirt of crc electronics cleaner fixed it...Now I have a main phone, a backup flashed to be identical, and a media device!!
After taking this phone completely apart a few times it gets pretty easy to see it really is a mini computer and most of the major parts can be bought on ebay for decent prices and replaced fairly easy....The ribbons that connect the various parts can bend and break easily so that is something to keep in mind. I broke the ribbon for the headphone jack assembly but a little hunting on ebay and I had one on it's way for $1.50 after shipping lol.

rmntruexjr said:
You just have to put "i897" or similar as an ebay saved search that notifies you when new products matching that description are posted.
I bought 1 cappy for $60 from ebay seller alltechwholesale, out of Texas I think. In my experience, they do a good job inspecting the phones first so you know what your going to get. In my experience and many others, the phone arrived in better condition than described....Then I picked up two more sold together on ebay for $70 that were listed as one bad digitizer and the other bad charge port. I got them as parts phones. The one with the "bad digitizer" ended up being just a bad search button because the screen lifted on that corner a little. A 50 cent tube of adhesive fixed that. Then the second of the two just had a dirty charge port and a squirt of crc electronics cleaner fixed it...Now I have a main phone, a backup flashed to be identical, and a media device!!
After taking this phone completely apart a few times it gets pretty easy to see it really is a mini computer and most of the major parts can be bought on ebay for decent prices and replaced fairly easy....The ribbons that connect the various parts can bend and break easily so that is something to keep in mind. I broke the ribbon for the headphone jack assembly but a little hunting on ebay and I had one on it's way for $1.50 after shipping lol.
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Haha yes, I can relate to the mini computer aspect. Just spent my day repairing about 8 hp Touchsmarts, the cappy compared to that, is a dream lmao. Much less to deal with . I planned on using the cappy I have now as a spare part phone anyway, unless I can somehow get it to work. But I didn't know about the whole ebay thing. I shall do that now, thanks a TON :fingers-crossed:
EDIT: Just checked alltechwholesale ebay store, SO MANY CAPPYS FOR SALE!!! All around the same price, seems they put it up for 0.99 and someone keeps jacking it up to $70 shortly after. My only thing -- I hate auctions . But great share and bookmarked

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Haha yes, I can relate to the mini computer aspect. Just spent my day repairing about 8 hp Touchsmarts, the cappy compared to that, is a dream lmao. Much less to deal with . I planned on using the cappy I have now as a spare part phone anyway, unless I can somehow get it to work. But I didn't know about the whole ebay thing. I shall do that now, thanks a TON :fingers-crossed:
EDIT: Just checked alltechwholesale ebay store, SO MANY CAPPYS FOR SALE!!! All around the same price, seems they put it up for 0.99 and someone keeps jacking it up to $70 shortly after. My only thing -- I hate auctions . But great share and bookmarked
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yeah, alltech is just auctions but I just took time to read conditions and saved a bunch and you'll find that they go for different prices depending on what's wrong and even depending on the day or time of day lol......That's why I suggested saving the search too. I use the ebay app and when there is new listings of my saved searches I get a notification so I go and look. If your quick, You can possibly snag a "buy it now" at a decent price depending on the condition your looking for. I really couldn't believe I ended up with 3 100% working phones and maybe I just got lucky, but I'd say it's worth a try lol.

I'd say it was a combination of good research, and amazing luck hahaha. But I do appreciate it a lot, thanks for the info, cheers

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At the cost of replace them both i can buy a captivate in better condition i did hope, that there could be another issue. thank you guys.
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Sorry we kind of got off the subject, But for the digitizer try what Bwolf said about the connections.
Once when I was testing the power button I soldered on my old cappy I didn't get one of the ribbons all the way on (i believe it was the ribbon near the power button), and the screen flashed a few different colors.
There is at least one probably more youtube vids with pointers on how to get the cappy apart in a way that wont do damage.

I know there's a tare-down guide here, and there was a YouTube video where someone replaced the screen, if I can find it on my history I'll edit this post

rmntruexjr said:
Sorry we kind of got off the subject, But for the digitizer try what Bwolf said about the connections.
Once when I was testing the power button I soldered on my old cappy I didn't get one of the ribbons all the way on (i believe it was the ribbon near the power button), and the screen flashed a few different colors.
There is at least one probably more youtube vids with pointers on how to get the cappy apart in a way that wont do damage.
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i have checked and now i am sure, that the screen is broken. I live in a state, that is not supported by paypal and and where can i buy used captivate for parts with my credit card?

The only place I can think of would be ebay, if you can find a seller who accepts things other than paypal. Or you can try craigslist.

Anybody think this prototype edition screen will work?

So I have had a Nexus 6 with a broken LCD sitting in a drawer for a while because screen prices (in addition to Motorola repair options) are much more than I would like, in addition to the phone running a custom ROM with an unlocked bootloader. So today I decided to look on ebay and screen prices are still pretty high, except this one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Motorol...sh=item3d1e0d1aaf:g:8dkAAOSw8RJXCR70#viTabs_0
Looks like this guy got his hands on one of those prototype LCD assemblies. I'm not sure who would part out and sell one of these but, here it is. I was wondering if this was worth a try or if I should just leave it dead in my drawer. The dude doesn't seem to know what he is selling but, mentions the ribbon cable is a bit short. If anyone can guide me on this, I would appreciate it.
EDIT: Meant to say Prototype rather than Developer, my apologies. If a mod wants to come through and fix the title, that would be great.
Thanks, TriguyRN

TriguyRN said:
So I have had a Nexus 6 with a broken LCD sitting in a drawer for a while because screen prices (in addition to Motorola repair options) are much more than I would like, in addition to the phone running a custom ROM with an unlocked bootloader. So today I decided to look on ebay and screen prices are still pretty high, except this one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Motorol...sh=item3d1e0d1aaf:g:8dkAAOSw8RJXCR70#viTabs_0
Looks like this guy got his hands on one of those prototype LCD assemblies. I'm not sure who would part out and sell one of these but, here it is. I was wondering if this was worth a try or if I should just leave it dead in my drawer. The dude doesn't seem to know what he is selling but, mentions the ribbon cable is a bit short. If anyone can guide me on this, I would appreciate it.
EDIT: Meant to say Prototype rather than Developer, my apologies. If a mod wants to come through and fix the title, that would be great.
Thanks, TriguyRN
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Assuming you can do the repair yourself, I would just shell out the extra bit of cash to get a legit LCD. But, if you want to take the risk to save a buck, nothing is holding you back. It did say something about flex cables being different, in which case you would have a bit of trouble. Cheers!