Android as primary OS? - XPERIA X1 Android Development

Guys i thought i would start a thread to discuss the possibilities of creating an android rom or the possibilty replacing winmo as the primary os.
i know the current build for x1 is buggy, however the x1 is an outdate device now, i own one only as a testing device for my winmo programming. therefore i cant see why we cant have fun with it...
anyone with thoughts, or references welcome. i have a bit of free time coming up so im looking to jump on the x1 - android bandwagon!

I think more important for now is create krenel that contains all hardware configuration (working WiFi, BT, Camera, GPS, turn off LCD, fast working etc. ) if it will be fulfilled it is possible to think about create android rom

radzix27 said:
I think more important for now is create krenel that contains all hardware configuration (working WiFi, BT, Camera, GPS, turn off LCD, fast working etc. ) if it will be fulfilled it is possible to think about create android rom
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although it is not a priority it is still interesting to look at...
for instance it would reduce the non helpful post on how to use/install

Reversedhex said:
although it is not a priority it is still interesting to look at...
for instance it would reduce the non helpful post on how to use/install
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You're absolutely right. But ... who would flash his phone with a rom, which can't use the speaker for ringtones and which drains the battery.
I agree with vdelf - as soon as we see a working kernel worth for daily use, we might look into the issue of flashing android rom.

Bluetooth, GPS and Camera still not working for many htc devices. However, sound, ringtone is of highest requests for X1

I am with _Sensible on this one (not the "outdated"-part ). Android is not ready for primary OS on the X1, but it is not that far away. Why not start to create a rom? IMHO that will take some time, too. And that way we do not have to wait for a rom when the kernel is ready

If speaker and screen issues will solve then may try to cook android rom

drlucky said:
You're absolutely right. But ... who would flash his phone with a rom, which can't use the speaker for ringtones and which drains the battery.
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I would....
but then again I do have two xperia's so it wont matter if one isn't working properly.
btw this would be a nice time to stop talking about why and start talking about how.
maybe the knowledge can be found in the tp2 forum again....?

thanks for all your thoughts guys. i realise a flashable rom isnt a priority but i was thinking along the lines of vdelf. if we start this development now it may tie in nicely with a functional kernel.
in terms of how to do it...
1. binary image written via a 'flasher' app etc etc.
2. I wonder if we can install an os via android-through-haret? like the install option from an ubuntu live cd?
like i said, i have some free time soon so will do some R+D.

I hope so for that Android ROM .

android as a rom. hmm lookin forward to it. cant wait

dexteral said:
android as a rom. hmm lookin forward to it. cant wait
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same here - im sick of winmo glitches and problems,been reading alot about this project and i hope that all the x1 hardware works on it.

I'm looking forward for rom too. But not because of WM glitches, but because android will extend life of xperia. WM6.5 is dying os. Most software from actual companies is either for Android or iPhone (and probably for WP7S soon), apps for WM6.5.x and older are becoming rare.
I would really like to see actual rom, but i think you should put priorities on power managemnet, brigthness and sound. I can live with haret until then

Anyone have experience using the fastboot bootloader / recovery options for android roms?

matejdro said:
I'm looking forward for rom too. But not because of WM glitches, but because android will extend life of xperia. WM6.5 is dying os. Most software from actual companies is either for Android or iPhone (and probably for WP7S soon), apps for WM6.5.x and older are becoming rare.
I would really like to see actual rom, but i think you should put priorities on power managemnet, brigthness and sound. I can live with haret until then
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Totally agree !

_Sensible said:
Anyone have experience using the fastboot bootloader / recovery options for android roms?
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Im not sure but the key combo to trigger it is set in kernel and need a recovery image, if thats what you are looking for...
1. binary image written via a 'flasher' app etc etc.
2. I wonder if we can install an os via android-through-haret? like the install option from an ubuntu live cd?
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Cant the android os be cooked into a nbh, so an existing flasher or microsd method can be used?

oh yaaa man me to wud love an android rom it wud be awesome plz work on this hope to see a android rom soon man

@Reversedhex,
Yes, a ROM can be cooked and I don't see why the RUU utility couldnt be used either
I will have a play - I believe this has already been done on the HTC Vogue...
Tinboot is also a possibilty...

Ok,
Ive been looking into this, I reckon the best way to do is to jump on the back of the 'tinboot' bootlader developed on this forum. So far Its only been ported to the Kaiser....however with a bit of R&D it shouldnt be too hard to port to kovsky.
Please check it out
git://androidhtc.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/androidhtc/tinboot
Oh, I dont suppose anyone has a kovsky nand dump lying around? Or info on the tables?

Well, you know, it 'kinda' works. I've even made a video. But we need to fix panel initialisation (or it's more likely that i've simply messed something up). You can watch. After hanging on the SE logo, it makes two vibrations and the screen covers with strange pattern which means the kernel does start. Maybe i'll work on it later.
http://rapidshare.com/files/371867580/x1.avi.html

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To all the Mobile Geeks, Crack This ??

Which is the best WM5 Upgrade
Tuma 1.3
Tuma 1.4(Beta)
Ivan V4R3
I dont think it is Tuma 1.3 coz it loses out on BT and Wifi Perfomance
It cannot be Tuma 1.4 coz it has a bug whil opening Photos and Videos also other problems reported(like icons listed several times, Registry issues)
It cannot be Ivan V4R3 coz it lacks the basic feature of Device Lock(Although I havent checked the OS thruly this was the first fault i came to know abt) "Lt. Gen. Ivan how can u forget such a basic feature"
:idea: Cant someone combine all 3 and make something that can beat wat the OEM's are making :idea:
I feel ashamed to use any of these roms when all my friends use their OEM's that are much better than these
Come-on Guys lets show the OEM's that we are the best :Cheers:
Why would you need to device lock when there's already the default Lock All Except Power Button?
delltech
I dont think you understand how much work goes into creating a ROM with no support from M$. Nobody gets payed for what they do, so they must support themselfs in other ways (i.e going to work). If your that worried about a basic feature like device lock, create it/sort it and post a fix up here. This is after all what XDA-devlopers is all about. Not just leeching other peoples work and *****ing about it missing features...........
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It cannot be Ivan V4R3 coz it lacks the basic feature of Device Lock(Although I havent checked the OS thruly this was the first fault i came to know abt) "Lt. Gen. Ivan how can u forget such a basic feature"
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If you had actually read anything about wuther of the roms you would see that the TuMa versions are based on a ported rom from the Wizard device, hence the wizard's device lock + today screen plugin, however Ivans roms are based on a patched up leaked beta of a origional BA rom, which doesnt include the device lock function and AFAIK doesnt support it. Both ivan and I have tried including the device lock in his rom but it either fails to function or doesnt show, so no luck yet.
In regards to which rom to use may i suggest using Ivans with a 3rd party lock application (i personally use Mort's Mortsaver PE as it is a very powerful and free one, after you have spent 2 minutes configuring it)
@delltech
first read, try than talk
mambojambo said:
Why would you need to device lock when there's already the default Lock All Except Power Button?
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Try playing a file in media player and putting the phone in ur pocket and u will realize why u need a device lock, and yeah by the way u cant use the power button when u r playing a file in media player or else u need to do a Soft Reset
WWWeed said:
delltech
I dont think you understand how much work goes into creating a ROM with no support from M$. Nobody gets payed for what they do, so they must support themselfs in other ways (i.e going to work). If your that worried about a basic feature like device lock, create it/sort it and post a fix up here. This is after all what XDA-devlopers is all about. Not just leeching other peoples work and *****ing about it missing features...........
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Excuse me Sir, Just to bring it 2 ur notice, I am a manager with microsoft and i know how to work this around, perhaps i tried patching the OS with a device Lock but the OS fails to Recognize the Exe file, I m not trying to blame someone for missing out on something and i do understand that no one gets paid for it, infact i really appreciate all the efforts all the guys are putting in to help the community, My only concern was that if all the guys work together to make a rom that really has all the features that would be just great (instead it seems they are busy making their own roms by patching different versions of the OG Roms, and last....... I m not a leecher ... i m making my own rom that will consist of a lot more features than the one's listed and that too without any bug... does that sound good or change ur opinion abt me :?:
Midget_1990 said:
delltech said:
It cannot be Ivan V4R3 coz it lacks the basic feature of Device Lock(Although I havent checked the OS thruly this was the first fault i came to know abt) "Lt. Gen. Ivan how can u forget such a basic feature"
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If you had actually read anything about wuther of the roms you would see that the TuMa versions are based on a ported rom from the Wizard device, hence the wizard's device lock + today screen plugin, however Ivans roms are based on a patched up leaked beta of a origional BA rom, which doesnt include the device lock function and AFAIK doesnt support it. Both ivan and I have tried including the device lock in his rom but it either fails to function or doesnt show, so no luck yet.
In regards to which rom to use may i suggest using Ivans with a 3rd party lock application (i personally use Mort's Mortsaver PE as it is a very powerful and free one, after you have spent 2 minutes configuring it)
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Sorry abt that dude, if only i had read abt it earlier
But anyways i really appreciate that u r putting in efforts to make things possible
I will surely try the other software u mentioned hope it works gr8 for me as well
sorry delltech
I am not to start a flame war here or anything of the sort, but sure... delltech you work as a manager for microsoft. I believe you, and you have changed my opinion about you...
stop *****ing

So... Windows Mobile 6 is here?

midget_1990_v0_1_vanilla_wm6.rar
I've found this link in the wm5 upgrade forums but without any explanation or comment...
1-What is included in this file?
2-Ripped from which device?
3-Radio compatible with BlueAngel?
4-Every devices may had different hardwares, is that rom had universal H/W
support?
5-Are the Rom makers interesting or working on this rom?
6-Who had test this rom?
7-Which device still use this rom?
8-What is new in this rom?
9-Is there any screenshots here?
10-If someone crash him device when upgrading to this rom, who can help?
11-I know this is not a forum thread but that mean this rom-link not dangerous?
12-Can anybody give some explanations over Windows Mobile 6 (I wrote allways as 6 because this rom is not Windows Mobile 2006 <I've heard somethings on somewhere>)
At the last:
This is the best of Windows Mobile
Powered Devices Fan forum...
This site had very very unique threads, tools, roms, and lots of stuff...
I've BA & use wm5 rom by helmi_c;
what I think about this rom, 3 answers I have:
1-Bluetooth problems with my headset.(msi and motorola h3 too) without BT_Patch. But it's my problem and thats mine choose, i must wait fix. GPS and other BT services works perfect.
2-Wifi problem, sometimes needs to reset. May this problem will never resolve, i can live with this
other side Wifi give beter performance than windows 2k3, really! I think it's come from ram paging pool,
exm: I control my pc with wifi and i can play GTA san andreas from my pda, eheheh, i can show my msn web cam to
my friends
"When they out of my house! range som's 30 m"
but som's pda goes slowing down.I don't know why.
3-Phone sometimes give error while turning on/off flight mode and phone goes to lock while speaking longtimes. But not allways.
now,
There is 5 creators here, and they make wm5 roms whith different roms but they have some problems may the creators can works together and give us a clean wm5 or wm6 rom.
"What a good wish"
Sorry for the long message, but i need some information, may someone can givethis. Because i've belive here.
MANY MANY THANKS READING.
I allready saw too , but it's for Universal, let's hope we will have soon a wm6 for BA
Well they have one for both the Wizard and the Universal now, we just need one for the Blue Angel, come on guys, the suspense is killing us
Will it be possible to port the ROM for BA? 'Cos I saw some post somewhere in 4rum saying it seems impossible???
Will it be possible to port the ROM for BA? 'Cos I saw some post somewhere in 4rum saying it seems impossible???
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that we dont know yet, also because most of BA developers are changing to Universal at the moment. honestly, I dont see that it's gonna happen soon specially without having enough developers working on it.
There is a ROM out for the HTC Universal and HTC Wizard. There is nothing yet for our HTC BA.
I did have a look porting it, but it looks pretty impossible for me to do -I'd never done it before and there is no base ROM at the moment.
Only thing we can hope for is some of those BA gods do a spiffing job on it!! (We know who they are )
Pray that it'll be quite possible!!!
imatrix said:
that we dont know yet, also because most of BA developers are changing to Universal at the moment. honestly, I dont see that it's gonna happen soon specially without having enough developers working on it.
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So sad to hear this. All we need are the base cleaned ROM and relevant tools to edit. But like you said, I guess we may be gonna have to wait for long, if it's really possible.
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So sad to hear this. All we need are the base cleaned ROM and relevant tools to edit. But like you said, I guess we may be gonna have to wait for long, if it's really possible.
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You can edit the crossbow roms with mamaich tools for WM5, but there is more than adding drivers for make WM6 work on BA, the main problem is WM6 core, if someone manage to port it it will work
(Nothing's impossible, but some things are harder to achieve)
xplode said:
You can edit the crossbow roms with mamaich tools for WM5, but there is more than adding drivers for make WM6 work on BA, the main problem is WM6 core, if someone manage to port it it will work
(Nothing's impossible, but some things are harder to achieve)
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totally agree to that xplode, so hurry up, we are all waiting
anyway plz do your best
alternately you COULD try running xbow on top of wm5 core (similar thing was done for OS X on PC's, until recently for that they used 10.4.8 OSX with 10.4.4 kernel) If this works (it should - kernel for WM5 is 5.1.xxxxx, WM6 is 5.2.xxx, only a 0.1 increment) then you could run crossbow just without the core
without the core rom, are we gonna have most functionalities still?
i dont know - im just brainstorming atm
hopefully most of the features will be separate from the core, remember it's still based on CE 5 and only a .1 increment
Hi guys,
I've been looking at the WM6 leaks for Uni and Wiz with a view to getting something running on BA.
The 2 biggest problems are
- the kernel (nk.exe) is compiled per-hardware platform.
so a WM6 kernel exists for universal, and for wizard, but not for BA
the only reason we were able to run WM5 on BA was because of a leaked
kernel for our hardware platform
- the WM6 roms are much larger than wm5 ones
Even a base set of features seems to need careful packaging and some
UPX compression to fit in the BA's 32mb ROM
Even if the WM6 applications and features could be persuaded to run in the existing WM5 kernel, the result could never be really called "WM6".
Without a proper kernel for BA, I doubt it's really worth the effort.
So we all wait for the right kernel, then thing's done. Think that It's gonna be available someday.
That seems im? Possible.
Why?
Some members already try to tell this
bastard reality but it's true.
Core system = kernel structure
must be emulate to BA's H/W.
The kernel softwares especially written for which device will use it.
but we forget a point!
All of Windows Mobile OS's had a SDK
and they have flexible content.
What i mean?
We have 2 problems.
1- Hardware compatibility.
(Drivers and device functions management )
2- OS infrastructure
(Device based shell and kernel api management.)
Explanation:
1-We're already know all of PocketPC devices had different hardwares. We must make or find or emulate current drivers to our BA...
How?
Too hard... it's an engineer work.
Assembly and C knowledge necessary.
But we have a key:
Every Windows Mobile OS kernel versions
written in same way. May we can use
old drivers? may anyone can emulate them.
2-OS integration and device management structure with shell and kernel api's.
Windows OS's allways use API system with 2 types.
1) Shell api ( Interface )
That used for visual and non-visual OS functions. like DirectX api's.
2) Kernel api (Core system)
To use device funcitons,
accesing Processor, RAM, ROM and
others.
Some Windows mobile versions had same hardwares but they managed
with different API's
Why?
I don't know...
what we need?
We must emulate this API's?
How?
Not hard as first problem but not easy too...
I think there is one way.
We try to hardluck, remake and convert old API's to the new ones.
This is illegal and outlaw. Goes to reverse engineering and Bill gates will angry...
Yes that is impossible as first one.
Windows Mobile 5 OS's can be port but at this time no one have so much information about WM6 kernel and shell systemand nobody did make an explanation about WM6 SDK how it's works.
This comments mixed with what i've earned from internet.
If you don't understand...
Think so as;
is Windows98 have transparency windows?
is Windows XP have 3D desktop? or AURA interface?
I CAN SAY CLEARLY:
This is impossible just yet,
may be next times but not at now.
Note: Universal and BA uses smiliar hw than others.
THANKS.
When will crossbow actually be realeased in final version (leaked or non leaked, but a stable version)?(I know we can't tell whether it will be leaked or not!)

Touch IT....Kind off...stripped..for wing

Here is as requested, a base rom.
Im giving you here, something I didnt actually want to do. My kaiser build for wing, but no apps but comm manager and touchdialer (I left those because the default has been stripped out)
The stuff removed:
All custom apps
Games
Transcriber
office
internetsharing
my5 fav
win live
live update
alot of ringtones and unusefull sounds
alot of gif files
cant remember the rest right now
This roms is ment for cooking your own rom, not for release of "your rom" after building it like you want. But I cant control that, but do so, and you will never again see work from me on xda.
I left in the rom the .rgu files, so recooking wont be a problem.
If you need apps to include, find them. I will not provide that for you.
Oem packages is all over this place.
So, follow my tutorial to extract it and make your oem, sys and rom folder.
Add the stuff you want and build it as you want for your own device.
I have not had the time, nor do I have the time to flash this to my own to test it, but I see no reson why it should not. But before you come yelling about it not working after you followed the tutorials and w/e, test it by flashing it to your device before you try to cook it.
I removed aprox 16 mb of stuff, but Im not sure what this will show up as after flashing since I dint have time to test it myself.
btw
pagepool is left to default
The os.nb is packed with winrar, so unrar/unzip it.
happy cooking/flashing
cheers
Download:
Rapidshare
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(The reason im releasing this is because I have other projects I wanna do, my own device has been neglected to long, and I need to give p4350 users a better build too.)
and yeah, im sure many are waiting for the next part of the tutorial, I hope to finish it before next weekend, my schedule is pretty tight right now.
Maybe I will give a go for ppl to release their rom from this, but not yet for awhile.
Please try to build your own if you wanna release something
good luck experimenting on this
cheers
Thanks for this clean baserom.
But for now my Terra is dead. It felt on the floor and the camerabutton is broken. So i can ONLY enter bootloader - because the cam is allways pressed....
I have to send it to service.
And btw - Hard-SPL isn´t working. Not now....
Thanks for your great work.
awesome dude i'll be sure to try this out and report my (hopefully!) favorable results!
papamopps said:
Thanks for this clean baserom.
But for now my Terra is dead. It felt on the floor and the camerabutton is broken. So i can ONLY enter bootloader - because the cam is allways pressed....
I have to send it to service.
And btw - Hard-SPL isn´t working. Not now....
Thanks for your great work.
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aw thats crappy. cant you "jog" the cam button loose?
but I guess, its better to make the pros fix it then attemting and ruining it more
btw, if its broken, you can by my p4350
Im getting a Kaiser in january
cheers
Question...
You said you wouldn't like anyone to release a ROM based on your ROM. What about a kitchen and use your ROM as one of the base ROMs they can use? All the TOUCH-IT stuff would stay untouched (if the "branding" is still there), all credit to you would still be there. All they would be doing would be checking boxes of what apps they would like to have. They won't be able to do a lot, since it's a fixed function, but at least for people who don't have time, like your ROM and want to make a personal one with the apps they want, it would help out. It's the alternative to a fully cooked ROM which would have a truly customized setup. I could even draft up a "license agreement" stating that they can't release a ROM created with that kitchen... (And place something hidden from them in the ROM to let you and I identify if the ROM just released was made with the kitchen.)
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You said you wouldn't like anyone to release a ROM based on your ROM. What about a kitchen and use your ROM as one of the base ROMs they can use? All the TOUCH-IT stuff would stay untouched (if the "branding" is still there), all credit to you would still be there. All they would be doing would be checking boxes of what apps they would like to have. They won't be able to do a lot, since it's a fixed function, but at least for people who don't have time, like your ROM and want to make a personal one with the apps they want, it would help out. It's the alternative to a fully cooked ROM which would have a truly customized setup. I could even draft up a "license agreement" stating that they can't release a ROM created with that kitchen... (And place something hidden from them in the ROM to let you and I identify if the ROM just released was made with the kitchen.)
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Thats why this rom has been released, so that ppl can use it as base in hypercore.
Im not gonna build a kitchen, to hypercore is far the best I know of (kudos to anichillus) And oem packages are placed all over xda forums, search in kitchen threads for the other devices, most apps work for herald.
I dont need no agreement, I was hoping that what I said would be enough
cheerz
I was porting over a new kitchen for people who just wanted point and click, but instead, I might just make a thread as a repository of all the different packages that they can use with your ROM... I don't know. I guess it depends on how much time I have to work on it. The Kitchen Port seems simpler since I have it set ready for the most part...
thanks but i hope the repairing will cost less than your p4350
btw - it was an brand new device since they changed it after i disclaimed the loose slider. it was only 2 month old.....
we´ll see what happens...
itje said:
aw thats crappy. cant you "jog" the cam button loose?
but I guess, its better to make the pros fix it then attemting and ruining it more
btw, if its broken, you can by my p4350
Im getting a Kaiser in january
cheers
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I guess this means I'm buying a Kaiser in January too
duprade said:
I guess this means I'm buying a Kaiser in January too
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And on christams I take your WIng as a present under my christamstree.....
lol
papamopps said:
And on christams I take your WIng as a present under my christamstree.....
lol
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I guess it's unanimous, Kasiers for everyone, LOL. It will be a Christmas gift to myself, lol. Maybe I can sell my p4350 and Ipaq 6828 for accessories, lol.
your a bunch of copycats
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I'm actually planning on upgrading from my P4350 by Christmas anyway, lol. It's time for an upgrade anyway, I had this device for a year now and served me well. I'm either going to get a HTC Kaiser 120 or E-ten Glofiish M800; and a 6mb memory card or course, lol. I'm leaning towards the HTC Kaiser 120 because of the, video calling capabilities, 128MB of onboard RAM and the 3meg pixel camera. I just hope that these devices are not obsolete by then LOL.
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Has anyone cooked with this ROM, yet? I get it installed, it boots but I can't get past the setup because the touch screen won't work.
EDIT: I tried flashing this ROM directly and the touch screen did not work. Did you remove the touchflo from it? (And thus removed the standard touchscreen driver? As I thought they were tied in together. I might be dead wrong about that.)
Sorry, man. You're ROM doesn't quite work.
EDIT: Were you using FTouchFlo instead? I thought they had actually cracked Touchflo itself...
Either way, the ROM's touch screen system doesn't work. :-/
ivanmmj said:
Has anyone cooked with this ROM, yet? I get it installed, it boots but I can't get past the setup because the touch screen won't work.
EDIT: I tried flashing this ROM directly and the touch screen did not work. Did you remove the touchflo from it? (And thus removed the standard touchscreen driver? As I thought they were tied in together. I might be dead wrong about that.)
Sorry, man. You're ROM doesn't quite work.
EDIT: Were you using FTouchFlo instead? I thought they had actually cracked Touchflo itself...
Either way, the ROM's touch screen system doesn't work. :-/
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All oem apps are stripped out, that includes touchflo. therefor the default touch.dll folder is also removed. from oemdrivers
This rom is more ment to be a base for the tutorial, extract it, then build on it. Add touchflo..w/e.
But the thing is, it boots up, and youi get to the point where you are supposed to setup touchscreen, and thats actually a working rom for me. It proves that the 50mb limit I mentioned before is no issue, so to me, is your info good news, Im happy for herald users. And so should you be.
So why not extract it, and move it to the build section of hypercore.
Then extract the wing official, go to oem/oemdrivers and copy the touch.dll folder, move it to the build/oem/oemdrivers build the rom, flash it and have a working base rom.
and no, I never have used ftouchflo, I use the original htc touchflo
cheers
itje said:
All oem apps are stripped out, that includes touchflo. therefor the default touch.dll folder is also removed. from oemdrivers
This rom is more ment to be a base for the tutorial, extract it, then build on it. Add touchflo..w/e.
But the thing is, it boots up, and youi get to the point where you are supposed to setup touchscreen, and thats actually a working rom for me. It proves that the 50mb limit I mentioned before is no issue, so to me, is your info good news, Im happy for herald users. And so should you be.
So why not extract it, and move it to the build section of hypercore.
Then extract the wing official, go to oem/oemdrivers and copy the touch.dll folder, move it to the build/oem/oemdrivers build the rom, flash it and have a working base rom.
and no, I never have used ftouchflo, I use the original htc touchflo
cheers
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Cool [about the touchflo] What I mean, though, is that when I flash the base ROM with NO changes, the part where you setup the touchscreen is NOT working for me. I tried it three times. hmm...I wonder if it's a wing vs herald thing?
EDIT: ohhh, I see what you're saying now. lol sorry
touch.dll isn't in the official dump. That doesn't make sense... it HAS to be there somewhere... I'll try to redump it.
lol. I figured it out!!

New Rom Making Suggestions!!! (What would you like?)

Well, I want to make a new ROM, but this is the part I need help on. I want as many people to put in what they might like in a new ROM. Once I get enough replies, I'm going to check out which ones were the most popular. If all goes well, I'll try to make the ROM as best I can.
Why do I want to do this? Well, occasionally, I'm really bored and I have nothing to do, and plus it's really fun making them.
Just another note, please don't spam or go off topic on this thread. I just want this specifically for opinions about the majority of what people might like on a new ROM.
Thanks!
umchriswho said:
Well, I want to make a new ROM, but this is the part I need help on. I want as many people to put in what they might like in a new ROM. Once I get enough replies, I'm going to check out which ones were the most popular. If all goes well, I'll try to make the ROM as best I can.
Why do I want to do this? Well, occasionally, I'm really bored and I have nothing to do, and plus it's really fun making them.
Just another note, please don't spam or go off topic on this thread. I just want this specifically for opinions about the majority of what people might like on a new ROM.
Thanks!
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Wow,
Your already thinking about the next release?
Your first rom was just released a few days ago..Man your fast.
ttran001 said:
Wow,
Your already thinking about the next release?
Your first rom was just released a few days ago..Man your fast.
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Well, my ROM was pretty basic.
For this one, I want everyone to have a say, and I want to try to make it different. It's not like it's going to come out soon, but I just want to get the idea of things. So basically, it's undecided right now.
How bout something Totally Different?
Just a thought.
How about a total vista rom. From the splash screens to Today and system Icons -- totally vista orbs and icons. Not a big fan of vista but the interface is really nice. I won't use the word pretty.
Built on WM6.1 with the latest radio rom. Glossy black bars. Even the animated orb at boot up. ????
Just a thought. Bet it would be popular.
yeaa do what zcinc said...and make it almost like a tablet pc if possible..make it as close to the pc experience as possible...i no u can do it..
Yeah, from my experience most people either way as much speed and space as possible ( blank rom like ur 1st ) or EyE Candy (Vista Release perhaps ?
mac anyone?
full mac ui for us mac lovers, and I don't mean iphone-blah.
would be nice to see a mac flavored rom -- =)
One thing i'd like to see and i don't hope is a spanish rom... i'd tried to make it myself and didn't do a great job exactly... i'll try another time, maybe.
This isn't a suggestion, i understand there's no interest in making one, just a loud-voice-thought.
Really popular having vista theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350011
papamopps said:
Really popular having vista theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350011
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This looks like something to be included with my next release...lol
papamopps said:
Really popular having vista theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350011
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Ohh... pretty... Interesting tidbit of information: One of my original cleanROM themes was a vista themed everything. But this is prettier.
I might include it as part of the kitchen I may or may not be releasing this week...
More Ideas
This is something like what I was thinking for the boot end:
***really awesome animated splash screen included in the .zip file .............
also, I have tons of icons and system files for the Vista look, extracted from wisebar themes. let me know if you want them for cooking.
Also, if someone can figure out this whole orb replacing the flag thing, they would be a ****en Genius.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342077
I just downloaded a Kitchen today. Going to try my hand at cooking. I may or may never come up with a rom but I will try. Totally lost at this point but I will learn.
How about a 6.1 that has MMS working
umchriswho said:
I just want this specifically for opinions about the majority of what people might like on a new ROM.
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Everyone makes ROMS with lots of stuff pre-installed. I'd like to see a ROM that's as close as possible to the WinMo that came pre-installed on my Wing, except for the following:
Leave out:
Adobe Reader LE
MyFaves app
t-zones wifi finder
Esmertec Java
misc crap I'm forgetting right now
Add:
BatteryStatus
6 MB pagepool
Today theme of Developer's choice
Touch dialer
Touch comm manager
WM6.1 if possible
Oxios mem manager or similar
As well as a package of "highly recommended" cabs that can be installed individually. For example, lots of ROMs have HTC Home 6 tab pre-installed. I hate the profiles tab, so I just use 5 tab.
Just my $.02
I would like to see the option to create a paging file on SD card and the ability to turn EV-DO off and make it STAY off, especially while connected to WiFi (my phone occasionally will use ev-do even when a wifi connection is present). Turning data off in comm manager does no good as it will automatically redial.
reddhanky said:
I would like to see the option to create a paging file on SD card and the ability to turn EV-DO off and make it STAY off, especially while connected to WiFi (my phone occasionally will use ev-do even when a wifi connection is present). Turning data off in comm manager does no good as it will automatically redial.
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1. Paging file?
2. EV-DO? I'm gessing you don't have a herald. hehe -Turn off automatic Mail Push, though, and it should stay off. (Also turn off anything automatic, time and all.)
NotShorty said:
Everyone makes ROMS with lots of stuff pre-installed. I'd like to see a ROM that's as close as possible to the WinMo that came pre-installed on my Wing, except for the following:
Leave out:
Adobe Reader LE
MyFaves app
t-zones wifi finder
Esmertec Java
misc crap I'm forgetting right now
Add:
BatteryStatus
6 MB pagepool
Today theme of Developer's choice
Touch dialer
Touch comm manager
WM6.1 if possible
Oxios mem manager or similar
As well as a package of "highly recommended" cabs that can be installed individually. For example, lots of ROMs have HTC Home 6 tab pre-installed. I hate the profiles tab, so I just use 5 tab.
Just my $.02
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hmm... sounds like my preference in ROMs... I may or may not release something this week that may fix this for you...

Going to buy the x1, need some help plz

hi guys i'm new to this forum and i'm going to buy the x1 tomorrow hopefully, first i wanted a samsung jet but the x1 is way better because of WinMo, The keyboard and other things wich i really like.
there r few things that i'd like to know, and yes i did some reading first
1- is there any drawback that i might expect from the x1?
2- is it upgradeable to WinMo 6.5?
3- what is ROM development? is it changing the whole OS?
4- what r the mods or tweaks that i might consider to do first?
sry if i'm asking something that is answered somewhere else but i'm new to SE and WinMo so any help will be greatly appreciated
ahmedsalem89 said:
hi guys i'm new to this forum and i'm going to buy the x1 tomorrow hopefully, first i wanted a samsung jet but the x1 is way better because of WinMo, The keyboard and other things wich i really like.
there r few things that i'd like to know, and yes i did some reading first
1- is there any drawback that i might expect from the x1?
2- is it upgradeable to WinMo 6.5?
3- what is ROM development? is it changing the whole OS?
4- what r the mods or tweaks that i might consider to do first?
sry if i'm asking something that is answered somewhere else but i'm new to SE and WinMo so any help will be greatly appreciated
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1) Xperia is great in many ways, and you would be investing in something that can last for a long time. Right now, there are no serious draw back to it, at least Physical wise. Its been a long time since it's initial release date, so I would expect Ericsson to have tweaked the structure for its advantage. The best part about the xperia x1 is that its very compatible, and can withstand many different types of ROMS
2) In short, yes, but only through ROMS
3) ROMS are to Operating systems as Phones are to Computers; or its the operating system of the phone. Yes, the operating system gets changed when you flash a ROM to your device (Mobile 6.1 is boring anyways). There are a couple ways of doing this, which you shoudl read up on, but in general, you hardSPL your device from your computer using a program (which allows custom ROMS to be transformed to your device), and then use the computer to run a customRUU, in which the new custom ROM is then transferred to the device. There are other ways of doing this, but you can research that yourself.
4) I recommend either Phoenix 2 or valkyrie 6.0, which are custom ROMS with a ton of tweaks already preloaded in them. Go to the ROM threads for more info.
Thanx So Much For Ur reply,
so u r saying that i can have WinMo 6.5 without any mods or with mods?
is this process hard that i might kill the phone or something? if it is not easy like placing some files on the phone and enjoy, can i backup the whole thing so i can flash it back to the state which i bought it in? cause i'm new to the whole WinMo thing, also will it spoil the warranty? cause if so, i'll stick with mods on the normal WinMo 6.1 for a while.
ahmedsalem89 said:
Thanx So Much For Ur reply,
so u r saying that i can have WinMo 6.5 without any mods or with mods?
is this process hard that i might kill the phone or something? if it is not easy like placing some files on the phone and enjoy, can i backup the whole thing so i can flash it back to the state which i bought it in? cause i'm new to the whole WinMo thing, also will it spoil the warranty? cause if so, i'll stick with mods on the normal WinMo 6.1 for a while.
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Yep, you can either find a clean Win 6.5 ROM with nothing pre-loaded into it, or one with stuff pre-loaded into it. The process is easier than I first thought: just hardSPL your device, which an app does for you, and then do the same thing for ROMS, in which you dowload the ROm, hook up your computer to your phone, and launch the customRUU exe that comes with it. A lot of peopel might say its way more complicated, but this is generally it. Search hardSPL in forums.
nice, thanx for these useful info but i guess i'll stick with WinMo 6.1 for a while now, but i messed it up anyway tried to install mobidiv arabic support but it showed letters backwards so i uninstalled it and now i have no words in some certain places can u refer me to a working mobidiv multilangual support?
ahmedsalem89 said:
nice, thanx for these useful info but i guess i'll stick with WinMo 6.1 for a while now, but i messed it up anyway tried to install mobidiv arabic support but it showed letters backwards so i uninstalled it and now i have no words in some certain places can u refer me to a working mobidiv multilangual support?
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Did you check here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=525763
thanx so much for ur replay I installed the second one and it worked great, overall the phone is amazing I installed some programs like xperia tweak, and touchresponse, i have a lot of games with the phone but they r all demo i guess all the games out there must be paid for, I just have more questions,
1-what's a manila?
2-I remember I once used internet on a WinMo phone connected to a computer through USB, is it possible with the xperia? I.E. if i have a working internet connection on my computer, can i use internet on my xperia through this same connection via USB cable?
3-Flash support for opera?? I'm downloading Opera Mobile 10 and then try to play a youtube video and see what happens
4-Can u plz refer me to a good music player that has equilizer?
5-Despite the quality of the sound is very good but the volume is low, is there something to raise or boost the volume?
I know these r lots of Questions but i'll really appreciate if u answer
ahmedsalem89 said:
thanx so much for ur replay I installed the second one and it worked great, overall the phone is amazing I installed some programs like xperia tweak, and touchresponse, i have a lot of games with the phone but they r all demo i guess all the games out there must be paid for, I just have more questions,
1-what's a manila?
2-I remember I once used internet on a WinMo phone connected to a computer through USB, is it possible with the xperia? I.E. if i have a working internet connection on my computer, can i use internet on my xperia through this same connection via USB cable?
3-Flash support for opera?? I'm downloading Opera Mobile 10 and then try to play a youtube video and see what happens
4-Can u plz refer me to a good music player that has equilizer?
5-Despite the quality of the sound is very good but the volume is low, is there something to raise or boost the volume?
I know these r lots of Questions but i'll really appreciate if u answer
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1- manila is another name for Touch Flo 3D, which is HTC's proprietary GUI. Since it's extremely finger friendly and easy to use, a lot of cooks include it in their ROMs
2 - sync your phone using active sync, there is a check box that will let you use your desktop's internet on your X1 as long as your phone is connected via active sync (sorry for being vague, i don't have AS installed)
3 - most cooked ROMs already have flash support for internet browsers. for stock ROMs, there are cabs around that'll give you flash (again, sorry for being vague, i'd been using cooked ROMs for more than a year and all of them have flash)
4- Manila has the Audio Booster app has EQ settings. You can also try windows media player, nitrogen, coreplayer... there are tons of music apps for WinMo
5- Look for the "audiopara" cab somewhere in the forum
thanx so much for these useful info., so is manila a .cab that could be installed, cuz i'm downloading a 33 MB file that is supposed to install touchflo panel it's a .cab i think.
right now i'm looking for a good audio player, and a divx player, BTW can I play Rmvb video files on the xperia??
regarding the audiopara i searched but all i found was related to roms or certain roms: new roms, and others that i don't rembember the name but the prob. is that I don't know which one will work for my x1, can u help me?

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