Running Cyan's 4.2.15.1. - Apps installing to phone Memory - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello Everyone, I was hoping someone could tell me if there was a quick fix or if I need to do a reinstall & add something that I didn't add.
I noticed today, my phone telling me it is running low on space & when I checked, it said I only had 9 megs left on the phone memory, however it did show I still had 465 megs on the secondary sd memory free.
I decided to try & install an app to see if the sd memory would go down or the phone memory. Well, the phone memory went down, but not the sd secondary.
I'm looking at the storage & unmount sd card & format sd card are "grayed out"
I also do have a \system\apps folder with some apps, along with the same one under \sd card\system\apps which that also has some apps.
Is there something I can do that can fix this? Or something else I need to check?
The only thing that I didn't do originally was create a swap partition.
Thanks

i believe if u reboot your phone all apps get thrown into ext partition. also try using cachemate , that will free up tons of space on your phone

choli0090 said:
Hello Everyone, I was hoping someone could tell me if there was a quick fix or if I need to do a reinstall & add something that I didn't add.
I noticed today, my phone telling me it is running low on space & when I checked, it said I only had 9 megs left on the phone memory, however it did show I still had 465 megs on the secondary sd memory free.
I decided to try & install an app to see if the sd memory would go down or the phone memory. Well, the phone memory went down, but not the sd secondary.
I'm looking at the storage & unmount sd card & format sd card are "grayed out"
I also do have a \system\apps folder with some apps, along with the same one under \sd card\system\apps which that also has some apps.
Is there something I can do that can fix this? Or something else I need to check?
The only thing that I didn't do originally was create a swap partition.
Thanks
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If you want to have your apps on your sd card then you need an ext partition. You cannot currently house your apps on your sdcard.

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CyanogenMod 6 Apps2SD

I've got CyanogenMod 6 on my N1 but it tells me I'm running out of space. Even using the Froyo apps2sd it's not saving me much.
If I go into CyanogenMod settings and tell it to use external, it doesn't move them? How does this work?
Also, if an app is Froyo'd to the SD, the market seems to struggle to update it?
Anyone help me?
AndyCr15 said:
I've got CyanogenMod 6 on my N1 but it tells me I'm running out of space. Even using the Froyo apps2sd it's not saving me much.
If I go into CyanogenMod settings and tell it to use external, it doesn't move them? How does this work?
Also, if an app is Froyo'd to the SD, the market seems to struggle to update it?
Anyone help me?
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You can use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715940.
Just create ext partition on your sdcard and flash downloaded zip from recovery.
First boot takes little longer because all apps will be moved to ext partition.
Thanks, seems to be doing the trick. I think it leaves the apps behind still. Do you know if I can safely delete them from the internal memory now?
You should not delete them. You probably don't understand how app2sd(ext) works.
In froyo everything you have moved on SD is at fat on you SD (froyo style) and everything you have on internal storage is on ext partition (old app2ext style).
Yes, but not really internal storage, it's on the partition at the beginning of my SD Card. Disk Usage looks like it's saying all the old apk's are still on the internal storage of the phone.
Anyway, no real issue. It picked up all the apps I used to have on the partition, so I had to clear a lot of those out.

[Milestone] Help with using mem card for installing stuff?

i am using the cyanogen mod and have been installing apps to my sd card thru "managing applications". However, i found out that not all of the data is being transferred and some are still left on the internal phone storage. As u guys alr noe, the milestone has very little phone storage, so my phone storage are still quite full at times.
I've seen threads regarding partitioning the sd card so to install the apps to it. Does this really work? I mean is it better than the one mentioned above?
Can someone help with this? I'm new to partitioning so can anyone help by giving step by step instructions, or simply just justify whether this whole partitioning thing works.
Thx in advance
You may give Titanium Backup a try - it can force-move apps from internal memory to SD and vice versa. Long-tap onto the app-> move to sd (or similar, got a german one )
//EDIT: partitioning the sd card is called "app2sd" - there're scripts for this, but with memhack etc. I have enough memory for the moment, so I don't use it

[Q] apps2sd whats the downside of running the apps from sd card

samsung galaxy SL-GT-I9003, running froyo 2.2.1
Since froyo allows moving apps2sd I have got a sandisk 32gb class 4 micro sd card & wonder if there is any downside to run an app from the sd card?
Should I partition the sd card for my data & apps separately?
If we update to a new ROM or firmware, and the APPs are on the SD Card do we have need to back up APPs ever again?
all my apps are on my sd card, there isnt really a downside, you dont need to make a partition.
The only thing is. if you accidently format your sd card, your apps will go. it saves memory on the phones internal card, allowing for a quicker response.
Just be sure to make a backup with titanium backup.
I do a backup every week, because im a constant flasher, but you can just make a backup and store it on your pc, just to be safe.
Flashing a new rom wont delete your apps unless you do a WIPE version or do it thru Odin. but if you do flash a new rom just make a backup anyway it only takes 5 mins.
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it saves memory on the phones internal card, allowing for a quicker response.
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so you mean to say the apps are on the external card but each application save its cache on internal phone sd card.
There are some apps that although you can move them to SD do not work properly when you do. Among these are many home screen widgets and some live wallpapers.
Oh I didnt know that, good I will keep that in mind.
Tehpriest said:
There are some apps that although you can move them to SD do not work properly when you do. Among these are many home screen widgets and some live wallpapers.
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Yes i forgot to mention that, but the ones you want on your homescreen like live wallpapers, music player whatever just leave on internal.
And yes i think the cache (or something like that) is saved to the internal, because when i remove my sd card, my apps still show but just wont launch....
Read many other post & checked my external sd card it does not have any of the moved apps, instead apps2sd moves the files to internal sd only.
So wondering whats the real use of apps2sd when you have limited internal sd space in my case only 1.51gb, I thought it is moving the apps to external sd which is 32 gb card I bought for this purpose only.
My phone shows 181mb left only.

SD Storage & Partition

I am running CM7.1.0 on my nook color off the SD card. I used the YouTube tutorial by the Crash Tech Dummies. Now I notice that I am only allowed only 1GB of storage on the SD card. I used partition wizard to increase the space on the 4th partition like I was instructed. I would prefer to install the apps to the SD card so I have already burned through the space provided. Bellow I have listed what I see in partition magic. Should I move the free space in the 4th partition into the first? Or should I load the cm7 onto the HD of the nook? I am a bit of a noob but I have gotten this far.
My 16 GB card partitions read:
G:boot 30.32mb used 118.69mb unused
*: 179.55mb used 283.25mb unused
*: 367.34mb used 597.50mb unused
*: 6.68 gb used 6.61gb unused
Any suggestions would be great…I don’t know what else to do.
Help me XDA Developers you my only hope…
Steve da Noob
First of all, what is "1GB of storage on the SD card" you're talking about?
Secondly, the 4th partition has nothing to do with holding installed apps.
votinh said:
First of all, what is "1GB of storage on the SD card" you're talking about?
Secondly, the 4th partition has nothing to do with holding installed apps.
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when i go into settings, apps, storage use, sd card it says 1.0 gb used 0.00 free...i was assuming this was referring to a section of the sd card. I also assumed that the 4th partition was being used by something do the fact that half of it has been used by something...
Steve
Quoting from VeryGreen's instructions
Partition layout for the SD cards depends on size:
Less than 600M - unsupported.
up to 1G cards gets: system of ~300M and data of the rest of space. No FAT partition
2G cards (more than 1G up to 1800M) gets: 300M system, 612M data, rest is FAT sdcard
more than 2G cards gets: 460M system, 975M data, rest is FAT for sdcard.
Your first partition is the boot, nothing else should go on here.
Your second partition is the system partition containing the OS and system applications
Your 3rd partition is the data partition used for downloaded apps. The space allocated is adequate for a decent number of downloaded apps but may get tight if you load lots of games. You can move apps to "SD" which is the 4th partition if you get tight on space.
Your 4th partition is the "SD" user data area. This can be used by apps for their working folders and is also where you put stuff like media (pictures, music, video). It is the partition that will normally get mounted as a drive on a PC when the USB is connected and USB disk storage is turned on via the notification panel.
You say the 4th partition has got 6.68GB data on already? That should start off fairly empty until you put stuff on there.
I do have music and pictures on the device that i uploaded so that's where the items on partition #4 came from.
When i try and move the applications to the sd card it tells me that there is not enough room on the card. Also when i plug in the nook to my computer without the sd card in it shows the applications on the internal hard drive. Should i try and move space from the 4th partition to the 3 and see if that helps?
Thanks,
Steve
WileECoyote79 said:
When i try and move the applications to the sd card it tells me that there is not enough room on the card. Also when i plug in the nook to my computer without the sd card in it shows the applications on the internal hard drive. Should i try and move space from the 4th partition to the 3 and see if that helps?
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I'm a little surprised it says there is no room available to move an app if the partition still shows 6GB free. Have you tried using Apps2SD app. This will show space available and is a convenient way to move stuff around. Another possibility is that you are trying to do this whilst USB connected to the PC. That won't work as the Nook software can't access the SD partition while it is PC mounted.
Currently you said there was nearly 600MB free in your 3rd partition where new downloads go. If so I wouldn't bother with trying to move stuff until you get tight on space there.
If that happens and you just need to create some more app space in the 3rd partition then you can use a partition tool on the PC like minitools to reallocate some of the space from 4 to 3 to give yourself more app space.
I tried the apps2sd and i get the same error. It sends me to the same place as i discussed above and when i tell it to send it to the sd card i get the same error. "failed to move application, there is not enough storage space".
I am not trying to move anything while i have the nook attached to my computer. the only time i really used that function was to add music and some pictures.
This is really starting to get frustrating. I do appreciate all your help.
Is another option loading CM7 to the nook instead of the SD card?
I only used the SD CM7 method for a short while and I don't think I ever tried to move apps to the "SD" so maybe there is an issue trying to do this.
I think you have two choices.
If you stick with SD then increase the data partition to give yourself more room for apps.
If you never want to use the B&N OS then the internal memory is the best option. The SD card then becomes a single partition user space card and you can certainly move apps to it. If you do this then also consider using the zip that increases the internal data partition to 2GB to give yourself more internal room for apps anyway.
bobtidey said:
I only used the SD CM7 method for a short while and I don't think I ever tried to move apps to the "SD" so maybe there is an issue trying to do this.
I think you have two choices.
If you stick with SD then increase the data partition to give yourself more room for apps.
If you never want to use the B&N OS then the internal memory is the best option. The SD card then becomes a single partition user space card and you can certainly move apps to it. If you do this then also consider using the zip that increases the internal data partition to 2GB to give yourself more internal room for apps anyway.
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I think ill try adjusting the partition and see if that helps. Like you said if it doesn't ill look into loading onto the internal memory. I am not to impressed with the B&N software and i use the kindle software for my e-reading.
Is there a method you could recommend for loading it onto the internal memory? A step by step tutorial would help out lots. I am not familiar with the zip you are referring to.
Thanks,
Steve
WileECoyote79 said:
I think ill try adjusting the partition and see if that helps. Like you said if it doesn't ill look into loading onto the internal memory. I am not to impressed with the B&N software and i use the kindle software for my e-reading.
Is there a method you could recommend for loading it onto the internal memory? A step by step tutorial would help out lots. I am not familiar with the zip you are referring to.
Thanks,
Steve
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Yes. If you don't think you'll use the B&N then internal is the way to go. Especially if you use Amazon Kindle for your books.
The easiest method in my view is to use the Eyeballer Clockwork boot SD and use that then to flash the main ROM and gapps zips.
You can find the most straightforward instructions here but I would use the KANG MiRaGe ROM as the main OS.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/8208-guide-install-cm71-clockworkmod-to-emmc-all-nooks-updated101111/
The 2GB partition zip can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094371
This can actually be applied at same time as installing the OS and gapps. Put the repartition zip, the ROM zip and the gapps zip on the Eyeballer SD card then use the menus to flash repartition, ROM and then gapps.
If you also follow the advice to put ROM manager and flash clockwork to the internal as well then future updates become very easy and do not even involve removing the SD card.
Ive decided that the best solution is to install on the internal rather than the sd card. i think this will be less of a pain in the butt in the long run.
being new to android and coming over from apple (booooo) is there anyway to easy re-install the apps that i have already downloaded? I do have one that i did pay for.
Steve
easy way to re-install? hmmm, maybe not but I would suggest you make the backup for all of your apps first (meaning save all .apk files to somewhere else)
ok here goes nothing lol
Titanium backup would allow you to back up all your apps. If you save the Titanium back up folder (say onto a PC via USB) then after you have done the internal install then put the Titanium back up folder back onto the fresh SD card and you can restore the apps back from there.
everything seems to be working just fine...thank you all for the help and advice...
Steve

Why does my phone say there isn't enough space to install an app when there is?

After shenanigans yesterday I've pretty much got my Moto G 2014 LTE running on Marshmallow.
\the problem I have now is one I've experienced a number of times before, on various devices and Android versions:
Why is it that, despite the storage screen showing that I have plenty of available space, am I not unable to install some larger apps?
Settings > Storage shows internal storage 1.15GB used of 5.52GB (as well as SanDisk SD card 890MB used of 14.59GB)
But when I try to install Injustice: Gods Among Us (1.12GB) i get the error message App requires external storage: "Injustice: Gods Among Us" can't be downloaded. Insert an SD card or USB storage with sufficient storage, and try again.
This app was installed prior to upgrading the OS, and while quite large, should still fit on to my device.
Can anyone tell me what causes this, what I can do to get round it, and also, if there is a way to make the OS see the SD card as part of the internal memory so I can install apps directly to it
On Marshmallow, it is possible to use external SD card as internal but don't do it.
Why ? Because you have a too small SD card. This option doesn't merge internal and external, it just sets the external as internal. So you need a 8gb or more SD card (or you will get less storage than before)
Maybe the play store doesn't want to install because your SD Card doesn't have enough space to install the game. I know it is weird, but sometimes even if you want to install to internal, it checks the SD card's available memory.
You can try to wipe the play store cache and data, and if it doesn't work do a wipe cache from recovery.
Try getting the apk file by google'ing it. Install it. Open it then check if it is downloading files or not.
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Mavireck said:
On Marshmallow, it is possible to use external SD card as internal but don't do it.
Why ? Because you have a too small SD card. This option doesn't merge internal and external, it just sets the external as internal. So you need a 8gb or more SD card (or you will get less storage than before)
Maybe the play store doesn't want to install because your SD Card doesn't have enough space to install the game. I know it is weird, but sometimes even if you want to install to internal, it checks the SD card's available memory.
You can try to wipe the play store cache and data, and if it doesn't work do a wipe cache from recovery.
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Sorry that should have read 14.59Gb for the SD card, so loads of space
Mavireck said:
On Marshmallow, it is possible to use external SD card as internal but don't do it.
Why ? Because you have a too small SD card. This option doesn't merge internal and external, it just sets the external as internal. So you need a 8gb or more SD card (or you will get less storage than before)
Maybe the play store doesn't want to install because your SD Card doesn't have enough space to install the game. I know it is weird, but sometimes even if you want to install to internal, it checks the SD card's available memory.
You can try to wipe the play store cache and data, and if it doesn't work do a wipe cache from recovery.
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Tried to download the apk and it just days no SD card. I know its there, still shows up in settings and shows apps installed on it. Must be a dodgy card or something, but now i cant work out how to tell the phone to stop using it for apps and install internally unsteady (told it to use it as internal when I did set up, not sure how to go back)
EDIT: OK worked out how to get it to stop using the SD as internal and formatted it for data, and seems to be installing the game now. So I think that pretty much solves my immediate query, but still interested as to why android sometimes says insufficient space despite it reporting in settings that there is plenty
KeransHQ said:
Tried to download the apk and it just days no SD card. I know its there, still shows up in settings and shows apps installed on it. Must be a dodgy card or something, but now i cant work out how to tell the phone to stop using it for apps and install internally unsteady (told it to use it as internal when I did set up, not sure how to go back)
EDIT: OK worked out how to get it to stop using the SD as internal and formatted it for data, and seems to be installing the game now. So I think that pretty much solves my immediate query, but still interested as to why android sometimes says insufficient space despite it reporting in settings that there is plenty
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Yeah sorry for my mistake I have read 1.xxgb instead of 14.xxgb
Android reports the storage to be full as soon as XX% of the storage is filled (maybe 90%, I'm not sure). Then if you have a 100gb device, even if you have 10gb free it won't allow you to do anything.
That's weird, but that's how it works.
Have you tried wiping cache ? It sometimes solves the problem.
It is better not to use the format as internal storage except if you really know what you are doing.

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