beta expired - need help - XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi All,
Hopefully someone can help me out here. I just suffered the unfortunate fate of having the beta ROM expire on me. Now it looks as though I will need to reflash the X1 with a new ROM.
If I reflash the ROM is there anyway that I can save my pictures and videos from the internal phone memory or will they get erased by the flash? If they get erased by the flash, can I recover them after?
Is there anyway to bypass the white screen that states the beta has expired? I really need to get to the pictures.
Thanks,
T

I don't have much experience with this(I don't even see the point why your rom isn't timebomb fixed). But are you able to connect via activesync?

No, I can't connect via active sync. The only thing that I see when I connect the phone to the PC is the removable sd card.

killer8nl said:
I don't have much experience with this(I don't even see the point why your rom isn't timebomb fixed). But are you able to connect via activesync?
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What do you mean by "timebomb fixed"? Where do I find the timebomb fix?

no you cant recover it after flash.. if possible copy those files of yours to the sd card.. then flash.. frankly speaking i didnt know that there was a rom with a expiration.. really.. got me confuse there bud..

Hi ,
same case here. I had an energy ROM which does not have time bomb fixed and now all the internal data needs to be saved. i have also looked to many posts to seek solution and being a newbie was reluctant to ask around. if anybody has a solution pls post. this effects WM6.5 series ROMS. Thx in adavnce for help

i doubt you will get the images back i dont know what format is the phone is, if you flash over it or with a smaller rom, the sectors will be free for allocation, but if you manage to use data recovery program you might have a chance depending on the allocation size, they tell you to hard reset after flash so there is something left behind, but its interesting to know that in the tri color boot screen connects to the pc via usb so there is some communication there.
good luck

Did anyone ever figure this out?
This stupid ROM that has expired seems to prevent the bootloader from starting up somehow.
I tried holding the volume down button while pressing and holding the power button, but it always boots into the Energy ROM. Instead of immediately seeing the tricolor screen, I get the SE logo followed by the blasted HTC logo then the Energy ROM.....
I have tried doing a hard reset (stylus in the pin hole with the two silver buttons on the front pressed down) and no luck...it just boots up normally....
I really need to get my files off of the phone, but I cannot access it via Activesync (phone not visible), and the blasted screen on the phone is completely white with a stupid message. Man I am really p***** off./
If anyone here can help I would really appreciate it as I have some files that are very important that I desperately need to get off the phone...
PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!

taz1973 said:
Did anyone ever figure this out?
This stupid ROM that has expired seems to prevent the bootloader from starting up somehow.
I tried holding the volume down button while pressing and holding the power button, but it always boots into the Energy ROM. Instead of immediately seeing the tricolor screen, I get the SE logo followed by the blasted HTC logo then the Energy ROM.....
I have tried doing a hard reset (stylus in the pin hole with the two silver buttons on the front pressed down) and no luck...it just boots up normally....
I really need to get my files off of the phone, but I cannot access it via Activesync (phone not visible), and the blasted screen on the phone is completely white with a stupid message. Man I am really p***** off./
If anyone here can help I would really appreciate it as I have some files that are very important that I desperately need to get off the phone...
PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!
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I'm sorry that I still have no clue how can you get your files...so sorry
About entering the bootloader, the main point is, did you continue holing the down volume button while you are holding the power button??
Hold volume button, press and hold power button (still keep holding the volume button), wait and you will see 3 color screen....
hope you can some how to connect to the computer...
Good luck....

I keep holding the volume down button while I press and hold the power button and it just boots up normally...
I have even trien a hard reset and it also just boots up normally...
wtf....

you can also use the camera button instead of the volume keys... camera+power... that's what i do
seems as tho everyone who has this problem with the volume keys are the only ones who use custom roms

HolyChristmas!!!! That worked...it was the only %^## combination of buttons that I did not try. Thanks a million spike.
Not when I have my X1 in boot loader mode and then connect to the PC, will I be able to access the files on it using Activ sync? Right now I see nothing.....

taz1973 said:
HolyChristmas!!!! That worked...it was the only %^## combination of buttons that I did not try. Thanks a million spike.
Not when I have my X1 in boot loader mode and then connect to the PC, will I be able to access the files on it using Activ sync? Right now I see nothing.....
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You can plug your USB in your X1 while in bootloader, so you can flash a new ROM, you can't back-up your files from there.

glad to here that ur problem i solved

The problem solved?....50% but not quite completely out of the woods yet.
Now that I can get to the bootloader, I need to fetch my personal files from the phone memory before flashing a new ROM onto it. So that is where I stand now.
I know that the phone is somehow communicating with the PC as I was able to re-run the HARD-SPL as a test and it worked. Now it is a matter of getting the phone to be seen by the PC so that I can get my data from it....the data is very important to me so I cannot afford to lose it.
AAny suggestions short of applying blunt force with a hammer will be appreciated...

taz1973 said:
I keep holding the volume down button while I press and hold the power button and it just boots up normally...
I have even trien a hard reset and it also just boots up normally...
wtf....
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your data is already gone if you already did a hard reset, so there is no way to get it back.
The phone can't communicate with your pc unless winmo is up and running and activesync service is running, so from within the bootloader, i think it isn't possible.
You could read around at the forum on how to make a dump of your rom, then all files on your phone will be "dumped" to the pc. But i don't know if you can do that through the bootloader. Good luck
EDIT: Ow, sorry, I didn't look to the last posts, i see you already found out that the camera button already works.
To get in bootloader, try the camera button and the power button instead of the vol. down button.

I know that the data is still there for the following reasons:
1. hard reset was not done
2. when phone boots up normally I do the the custom desktop background (which is a picture that I took with the camera) before it gets covered up by that white screen with the "beta expired" message.
3. I am able to communicate with the phone because when I was in bootloader mode, I ran the Hard-SPL.exe from my PC and the phone responded by loading the hard-spl.
I also thought of trying to dump the ROM, so that is one of the things that I will try soon.
Any other suggestions of how I can access my files in the phone memory?

Just took a look at the "how-to dump your ROM" guide and it does not look feasible considering I can't see the screen because of the white "beta expired" message. However, since I was running a custom ROM, perhaps the sdkcerts.cab was already pre-installed along with the registry settings...will try it anyway.
Any other ideas?
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2) Preparing your phone:
Before your X1 will allow the dumping to be done, the following Sdkcerts.cab file must be installed.
- Copy Sdkcerts.cab to your phone or storage card and install it to the device.
Also, your phone must accept changes that pdocread makes. You can do this with the regedit function of the FdcSoft Taskmanager.
- Set the following registry keys to "1":
* HKLM\Security\Policies\Policies "00001001"
* HKLM\Security\Policies\Policies "0000101a"
- Connect your phone to your pc with activesync.
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in the future, never save info on ur device that's valuable, im sure this is the reason why u have a sd card... i learn this the hard way on my p1i
just imagine you having info on ur device thats valuable and something else had happened, your goose would have been cooked... utilize the sd card as a safe storage way and always keep backups on an external storage... even myphone service from M$ gives this...
wish u luck in getting that info

I think that I definitely learned my lesson this time around...I am usually a bit more careful with my data....perhaps a moment of insanity lead me to this.
Back to trying to recoup the data....

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My kaiser died after flash :(

Hi. I tried to flash my kaiser to new Dutty's wm 6.1 rom (had Dutty's v3 before so i had hardSPL) and after the rom update process completed my kaiser died , screen is always black no matter i connect it to charger or push power, is there any possibility to bring my phone back 2 life?
Have you taken the battery out?
Have you tried flashing from SD card?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336158&highlight=flash+from+card
Worked for mine when i bricked it.
i have taken battery out , it wont help. also flashing from sd card works only when u can actually power on the device and i cant do it. name of my rom wasnt RUU_signed.nbh it was : Ruu_Signed_Duttys_WM6.1_5.2.19716_1.64.08.21.nbh maybe thats the reason of error
Well did you try the special key sequence to try to turn it on?
special key sequence? U mean both softkeys and stylus into reset hole?
Can you get it to the HSPL screen?
hold camera button and stylus into reset hole?
If you can to there you can reflash it using the sc card method.
3. Plug the card into the phone, then enter boot loader mode by pressing down the Power and Camera buttons simultaneously, and using the stylus at the same time to press the RESET button at the left side. Continue pressing the two buttons for a few seconds after pressing and releasing the reset button until the bootloader screen appears. (taken from Wiki)
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not the soft keys
thanx but it wont work, if i could enter bootloader i would just reflash the rom, but i cant get my phone on, screen is all the time black. if i plug in a charger there is no charging led too.
Ok, so your saying you tried it and it doesn't work?
im saying this doesnt work because my phone is totally dead. i cant get any response, it just wont turn on.
ok I'm taking it that you didn't try that sequence because you won't say that you tried it.
Hell no he/she ain't tried it. Probably has no idea what you are telling him to do.
Well Belizibub told him, I just started reading between the lines and noticed that he never admitted to trying it.
I love your avatar Tater.
can't all read, he can't turn it on, so how is he suppose to enter the bootloader or flash it from the sd card.
how come i try to enter bootloader , the phone is D E A D, it doesnt respond on any key cominations. i cant see even blank screen, nothing, it just wont turn on.
take the battery out and plug it into the charger, if a red light comes on thats a good thing if not then you probably have whats known as a "bricked kaiser" and sent it in for repairs or go buy a new one and save that one for parts.
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can't all read, he can't turn it on, so how is he suppose to enter the bootloader or flash it from the sd card.
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LOL, not even worth it.
So let me ask this, Why was this thread started? Was someone seeking help? Has someone provided the possibility of help? Do you think that the devils friend didn't understand that to this requester of help, that his phone appeared to be dead? Or is it possible the Devils right hand man knows something that the requester of help doesn't know and kindly attempted to share it with him, just to have the secret unlock code ignored.
Try up up down down left right left right a b select start.
That will fix your phone.
ps, what I'm getting at is if you haven't tried it then you need to try it. The special key config could possibly turn the phone on for you.
OK, now I see this same conversation going on in 2 different forums by the same person. Here and in Dutty's latest 6.1 release.
I noticed you are an Orange user. I have seen Multiple Orange users trying to flash radios to their phone and locking them up. I suggest looking/searching for one of those threads and see if they have a solution.

[Q]Please help, I am desperate.

Today I needed to perform a restore from a backup (using Sprite backup), but when the unit rebooted, it won't progress beyond the "smart mobility" screen.. There are the usual orange numbers in the bottom right of the screen, but it doesnt boot beyond that
I have tried hard resetting it (press both vol up and down, then power on) but I cant get to the screen that says caution you are about to hard reset the device etc etc..
Can someone please help me? This has really got me depressed. I paid a lot of money to get this imported from the UK (I live in Australia), and have found the unit so damn valuable/useful to date..
If anyone has any thoughts / ideas, please help..
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Today I needed to perform a restore from a backup (using Sprite backup), but when the unit rebooted, it won't progress beyond the "smart mobility" screen.. There are the usual orange numbers in the bottom right of the screen, but it doesnt boot beyond that
I have tried hard resetting it (press both vol up and down, then power on) but I cant get to the screen that says caution you are about to hard reset the device etc etc..
Can someone please help me? This has really got me depressed. I paid a lot of money to get this imported from the UK (I live in Australia), and have found the unit so damn valuable/useful to date..
If anyone has any thoughts / ideas, please help..
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Well, I can't actually see your device, however, relax Bro., the HR procedure on the HD is a bit tricky, took me a couple of trial/errors to perform successfuly, but finally I got it right.
Take deep breath, do it again following the instructions in the Manual (on CD) and it'll be OK.
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Ahh man, this well and truely sucks. I have tried HR about 40 times now. Nothing.
Can't even power off the device without pulling out the battery.
First which version of Sprite did you use to backup your phone , and second if you know your rom version enter bootloader and reflash it from there.
Woohoo! I accidentally discovered bootloader and flashed a new rom from there.. pity I didnt know what my original rom was, so now I have to re-install everything as sprite seems to corrupt everything whenever I restore (meaning i have to reflash over again)..
wackyD said:
Woohoo! I accidentally discovered bootloader and flashed a new rom from there.. pity I didnt know what my original rom was, so now I have to re-install everything as sprite seems to corrupt everything whenever I restore (meaning i have to reflash over again)..
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For my undersanding only, how did you flash a new rom on your HD as I get the strong feeling this can not be done unless you have the original rom version from your operator.
Thus please explain what rom you used, what is your orginal rom as in what carrier did you get your device from.
Maybe I missed something.
Yeah... show off some of your moderator skills and enligjhten us with some nice fact and details about your flash action. From German to WWE or so ?
lucid said:
Yeah... show off some of your moderator skills and enligjhten us with some nice fact and details about your flash action. From German to WWE or so ?
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I would love to but as you see I can't else I would have a WWE rom on my Swiss device.
So as you see I am in the same boat as you.
I'm pretty sure he just had a matching shipped ROM
wackyD said:
Today I needed to perform a restore from a backup (using Sprite backup), but when the unit rebooted, it won't progress beyond the "smart mobility" screen.. There are the usual orange numbers in the bottom right of the screen, but it doesnt boot beyond that
I have tried hard resetting it (press both vol up and down, then power on) but I cant get to the screen that says caution you are about to hard reset the device etc etc..
Can someone please help me? This has really got me depressed. I paid a lot of money to get this imported from the UK (I live in Australia), and have found the unit so damn valuable/useful to date..
If anyone has any thoughts / ideas, please help..
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When HR, what does it say when you press both vol up and down, then power on?
did you do HR in power off? or you may try HR after reinstall the battery.
I have not met this, just my suggestion.
the reinstalling battery trick seems to work
I had tried several times to hard reset my stock ROM and finally got it to work by taking out the battery then putting it back in, then first thing hold two volume buttons and press power button on top. Weird how difficult that is!
Yes hard reset is tricky with the buttons... Now I can get it to hard reset quite easily.
1. Press both vol up & down and keep them depressed.
2. Now press the power button briefly while step 1) vol up + down is still depressed. Very important do not press the power button for too long otherwise it won't work. Just press and release...
3. Release the vol up + down keys when you see the red/blue/green stripes on the screen.
4. Follow on screen instructions

Lost Button & Keyboard Functionality

Started experiencing a strange issue with my tilt today..
When I soft reset it loads the Today screen, and then attempts to search for the contact 'wszx' (these keys are located next to each other). After this I can navigate the phone just fine using the touch screen, but the only buttons that work are the directional and center buttons located on the front of the phone, and the arrow keys on the keyboard. I cannot type at all using the keyboard, and pressing any of the other buttons does nothing (except the directional/center/Power). I also cannot Hard reset because the two soft-keys do absolutely nothing. I've hard reset in the past but it no longer works.
So am I SOL? I think I've tried everything.. and now I have a custom rom, etc on the phone and I have no way of getting it back to factory rom without the ability to hard reset.
Thanks for any help.
dam1en said:
Started experiencing a strange issue with my tilt today..
When I soft reset it loads the Today screen, and then attempts to search for the contact 'wszx' (these keys are located next to each other). After this I can navigate the phone just fine using the touch screen, but the only buttons that work are the directional and center buttons located on the front of the phone, and the arrow keys on the keyboard. I cannot type at all using the keyboard, and pressing any of the other buttons does nothing (except the directional/center/Power). I also cannot Hard reset because the two soft-keys do absolutely nothing. I've hard reset in the past but it no longer works.
So am I SOL? I think I've tried everything.. and now I have a custom rom, etc on the phone and I have no way of getting it back to factory rom without the ability to hard reset.
Thanks for any help.
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Sounds like a hardware issue or simply a bad flash. Have you attempted to reflash the rom? Which rom are you using?
Well...
It wasn't working again this morning, but suddenly - out of nowhere - began to work properly. I'm stumped. If I ever figure out the exact issue I'll be sure to post back.
Thanks
Greetings,
I have same problem on my tytn...
Sometimes it suddenly starts working fine, but shortly it breaks again.
I have tried hard-reseting while it was working, but didnt help.
I think the problem appeared after charging my phone with a motorola v3 charger, so maybe it damaged my phone with over-voltage or something...
Anyway, if someone can suggest something i would be very grateful!
Hi I have exactly the same symptoms with my HTC Tytn II...when you power it on it starts typing letters (in my case CEDF). If the recording button is active it will start recording too. This happened suddenly and I haven't used any other charging apart from the usb and wall socket charger supplied with it.
All buttons (except front center key) and keyboard do not work. Any suggestions would be appreciated very much. This phone is only 8 months old.
Hi,
my Kaiser with dutty's WM6.1WWE ROM did the same this morning Yes I disabled the button 6 and stopped the voice recordings but all the hardware keys but few in the center of the keyboard are not responding. So I cant make or receive calls without taking the stylus out and touching the screen soft buttons andd that's pin in the ... while I am driving. I am using this ROM for almost a year now and I am extremely hapy (up to now) with its performance. When it all happened there were no activities on the phone - I woke up from a SMS notification (Yes I did receive an SMS from my bank) followed by repeting Voice Recordings. Any help will be highly appresiated! Thanks in advance!
keyboard problem
I am experiencing a similar problem with my stock tilt my keyboard does work however none of the text appears on the screen. I have tried hard reset and everything else I could think of, short of a clear storage reload. I would appreciate any help or suggestions from some of you more experienced users.
Bisonwill
anyone ever figure this problem out? im having the same thing happen now.
Same here
I've had it for a couple of weeks now.
I'm running WM6.1 from HTC (rom ver.3.29.422.1 from 2009-01-12) so nothing fancy here.
I even ordered and replaced the D-Pad and I replaced the keyboard (just the sticky part though). I totaly dismantled the phone and didn't find any issues with the cables.
Any ideas would be highly appreciated
Join the club!
This is crazy. My problem is exactly the same. I re-romed to the latest phoenix and it did not change a thing.
Help!
help....
any body here found a solution for the keypad/keyboard yet??? i have the same problem as you guys... any idea, thanks so much...
i have the same problem And there is something else. My Kaiser wakes up every 2 minutes - it's killing the battery. It works only for 6 hours now
Help
bump!!!
No more people with this issue or any solutions?
Pls! Help
ive joined the gang!
I decided to flash my cooked rom ive been working on.
i hadnt changed much in the kitchen and i think the flash has went badly.
it starts booting windows and where it should state "calibrate screen" it goes white and hangs there, buttons seem to respond by lighting up when pressed.
Now when i try to get it into bootloader or even hard reset it just doesnt work.
it just restarts the phone.
before this happened the backspace key hasnt been working for ages.
anybody got any ideas??
(lucky for me i have a backup kaiser!)
I'm having the same problem. Automatic wakeup, applications starting automatically, can't use keyboard, have to to use screen to use phone etc. I've hardreset using the clear storage method, reflashed a couple of times, but nothing helped. So here I am joining the club
If it's not a hardware issue, then try to flash another radio, many of the custom ROMs here doesn't include a radio, so if it's caused by a wrong radio, flash a new ROM without a radio doesn't help.
Check the Sticky for 'how to' if not aware.
PS: Check here for something need to know..
The question is.... how do I flash the device if I cant get it to go to boot loader and the OS wont boot properly !?
I think its an official Brick!
the really odd thing I've discovered is sometimes the OS leaves the loading screen on, and when it does if I press the FN and folder key, I get explorer up but its not responding... I haven't tried inserting a memory card yet to see if I can access that.
Danhargreaves said:
The question is.... how do I flash the device if I cant get it to go to boot loader and the OS wont boot properly !?
I think its an official Brick!
the really odd thing I've discovered is sometimes the OS leaves the loading screen on, and when it does if I press the FN and folder key, I get explorer up but its not responding... I haven't tried inserting a memory card yet to see if I can access that.
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Try this:
1. Take out the battery from the phone.
2. Take out SIM card and SD card.
3. Press in and hold the CAMERA button.
4. Plugin to your computer using the USB cable, while keep holding press in the CAMERA button.
See does it enter the BOOTLOADER mode.
Once entered the BOOTLOADER mode, you can flash a new radio or rom right from there, in your regular way of running KaiserCustomRUU.exe.(Since you already have a HardSPL flashed on, otherwise a HardSPL is needed to flash first.)
Good luck.
Edit: If the power button and the camera button is still working, you can use the regular way of entering BOOTLOADER mode, and flash from bootloader mode or flash from SD card.
Originally posted by Manpreet @ www.sakajati.com
To enter in bootloader mode:
Simply Switch off your phone. Press and hold camera button and also press and hold the power button..You can remove ur finger from power button when phone is switched on but keep holding camera button until u come to bootloader …Now attach the usb to ur computer and do the flashing you normally do.
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Thx for your suggestion:
I tried removing battery as sim and sd were already removed due to previous attempts in fixing!
so:
i removed battery (did not put back in), plugged in while holding camera
got nothing, so held power button at same time, the green light came on, then went off, and came back on again. but no bootloader.
i tried same procedure with battery in, and all i get is the OS loading up, no bootloader no matter how long i hold the buttons.
is there any other alternative method to get into bootloader (possibly involving other button presses)?
or any other ideas.
Really want to fix this as it was my "experimental" phone for cooking roms with.
Thanks again.
Suspect you have some hardware issue with the camera button. Can you ever take a photo with it?
Edit: Did you read through every post onthis thread:
MTTY (How to fix a bad ROM flash!)
If you tried that and still no luck, you can post your questions there. There are masters will keep an eye on that thread. And generally they only have time to look into their 'subscribed' threads, chances are they will not look into here.
Edit: Maybe the procedure I told is wrong, since I call from memory, check this:
dwny said:
If you have a bad flash....that's no reason to worry.
I haven't had to use MTTY to recover.
In most cases, if there's no issues with the Rom itself...you can pop out the battery and re-flash the same ROM from BootLoader Mode. This will also work if for some reason your computer crashes or loses power & restart during the FLASH.
If the Rom has issues.....the flash will not complete and the device will be stuck in BootLoader Mode. At this point,you must FLASH a FACTORY ROM!!
Pop the battery off 1st, power up the device, device will power up in BootLoader Mode, connect to pc & FLASH your devices FACTORY ROM. This will restore your device back to it's original out the box settings.
The above only works if the device has been put through the Hard SPL or SuperCID process.
I personally have never tried to flash a cooked ROM without unlocking any of my devices. From what I've read what others have experienced...the flash would just fail and they're stuck in BootLoader Mode.
Myself ... I've experienced bad flashes, bad cooked roms that I've cooked, lost power to a pc & had my pc crash during a flash. Listed above is how I've recovered. There is life after Bootloader Mode.
The only time you have to worry is if your device does not power up at all
As a public chef...it's your responsibility to set the parameters of your ROM! Meaning, Radio, HardSPL, program conflicts, etc.
You are not ultimately responsible if someone bricks their phone but if they pushed the issue, you could be hit with some form of liabilty because you failed on providing a simple Disclaimer that sets the expectation.
I hope I've been helpful.....
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Edit again:
And try like:
Plug in USB first, and thenn press & hold Camera, Power button etc.
I remember once I read there is a way to enter bootloader without battery, just can not find the original again.

treo 750 freezed at bootup

Hello, i just got a Treo 750 that just freezes a boot up, i can see logo at start and charging bar, but at the end of charging bar sudently stops, im looking a way for flashing it but i cant by usb because pc doesnt detect in this state, in boot mode it does detects but doesnt flash, im just begining with this, im pretty new flashing this kind of phone, if somebody can help me to solve this i would be thankfull.
BR. Masterunlocking
hey im having the same problem, i thhink theres a way to flash it using a bootup method from the phone but it hasnt been working for me. theres a link here http://rapidshare.com/files/89355384/Treo750_WM6.1_WWE_Lite.rar
but i tried it out just leaves my phone in the rainbow screen, dont think its installing anything. maybe you can give it a try see if it works. found the link on this on this page 3rd post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441785
if anyone can help with the install of 6.1 using this method, i was already on 6.1
GOT IT!! check this link out, all you need to do for a hard reset is hold the red power button and press the reset button which is right by the memory card slot just pull up the memory card cover and youll spot it, just press it with the stylus. keep holding the power button till you get the option to erase all your data and press up
http://kb.palm.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE?New,kb=PalmSupportKB,t=ooccase,case=obj(887)#hard

Screen goes black/fixed/keyboard problem now

So I inherited a G1 that looks like its in good shape. But when I turn it on it briefly flashes a boot screen that quickly fades to black.
If I hold down the power and camera button it starts to boot, I let go of the power button and keep the camera button held down the screen will stay lit and I can see the fastboot mode. As soon as I let go of the camera button some other words flash on the screen and it dies again.
I looked through the forum assuming I could quickly fix this and have a new backup phone but this forum is now so advanced nobody seems to be having basic problems like this. And anyone who is still here seems to have lots more experience than me with this particular model of phone. Usually the stickies have an unbrick thread but I cant seem to find it.
I am sure this is something simple but if someone could point me in the right direction, or say the screen is burned out, I its bricked, or whatever you think it might be, I would appreciate it.
After more reading and discussing with previous owner, I think that the Camera and power button puts it into fastboot. (not sure exactly what that is yet)
From there it tries to install something from the SD card but fails.
The SD card contains DREAIMG.nbh and two empty folders. It seems to be trying to install something else besides DREAIMG but it fails so fast I cant catch it.
Is there something else I should place on the external SD card or perhaps a different version of the same file?
The previous owner also told me the G1 had been running CM6 if that makes any difference. ( I know it does on CM7 ).
I can get it to the screen with the three skateboarding androids (engineering spl indication? )but any time I let go of any of the buttons the screen fades right to black, making any further button pushing useless.
Any helpful hints? Anyone? Even a thread you think I should read completely?
I copied the DREAIMG.ngh to the desktop of my computer and reformated the SD card. After I bunch of button pushing and holding I managed to get it to hold on the HBOOT screen without going black. I pushed the trackball down and it reloaded the image apparently. Now it turns on and such but none of the keyboard buttons work and it says safemode in the bottom left corner. I will continue to read and search.
I cant find anything in this forum about safe mode. I am stumped.
The phone will boot and tries to get me to sign up for the gmail account but the keyboard only has the d, e, f, and x keys working.
The emergency dialer seems to work. I dialed my other phone with it and it said its not an emergency number and wont let it dial.
I am pretty sure this is not a lost cause here. There is just something I am missing. Could it be a bad flash from the DREAIMG.nbh?
Would it be possible to download a different image.nbh from someplace and try that?
Anyone have any ideas?
ok what are you trying to do exactly? i think your having trouble because the files on your sd... take them all off and see what happens??
can you boot into recovery? holding home+power??
ldrifta said:
ok what are you trying to do exactly? i think your having trouble because the files on your sd... take them all off and see what happens??
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Trying to get a functioning phone is all. I am comfortable fiddling with it , just dont know the process to go through.
I pulled the SD card and rebooted and its the same result. Little grey box in the bottom left that says 'safe mode' and it proceeds to the google account screen.
The touch screen works, and the trackball seems to. but Home and Menu dont so I cant even back out of the sign in screen.
Booting up with home+power gives me the triangle with the ! inside it instead of any kind of recovery mode like I expected.
Like I mentioned earlier, I believe it might be running CM6 but I am not even positive about that. I was told it was.
Any suggestions on my nextstep to get it into some kind of functoning state? I am willing to try anything suggested. New ROM or whatever.
I really thing its something simple, I just dont have any expreience with this model at all.
After more searching I guess the ! with triangle is the first screen of the recovery mode? But pushing Alt+L or Alt+I doesnt do anything.
I am used to the Galaxy S recover mode being all right there on the screen.
So next step would be......?
no wait you get the triangle and the !?? thats good lol that is the stock recovery mode.. so now i know what to work with when you get to that screen you can press alt+L and a list should pop up!!
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After more searching I guess the ! with triangle is the first screen of the recovery mode? But pushing Alt+L or Alt+I doesnt do anything.
I am used to the Galaxy S recover mode being all right there on the screen.
So next step would be......?
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oooo it doesnt do anything?? hmmm
you sure nothing happens? try pushing down alt hard and keep holding it.. than press down on L hard see if a list pops up.. it only like 3 choices..
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you sure nothing happens? try pushing down alt hard and keep holding it.. than press down on L hard see if a list pops up.. it only like 3 choices..
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Nothing, hold down Alt and then press and hold L. No changes.
The other odd thing is now when I do the camera+power combo it takes me to the welcome screen instead of the HBOOT screen. I was going to try reflashing the image on the external SD card and now it wont do that either.
The return+power combo also takes me to the welcome screen now.
The welcome screen is where I want to be except the 'safe mode' seems to be keeping the keyboard from functioning?
what welcome screen? lol
are the keys sticking maybe? lol
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what welcome screen? lol
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First I get the T-Mobile G1 screen.
then the Android guy
then the Welcome to T-MobileG1, touch the android to begin.
That all seems normal to me, except for teh grey box that says 'safe mode' in the corner.
So i touch the android and it moves to the Setting upp your T-mobile G1 screen and wants me to enter my account info, which I cannot do because the keyboard is not funtioning properly. Its almost like the image flash borked the keyboard drivers or something.
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are the keys sticking maybe? lol
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the d, e ,f , x keys are all working so I think its not a stuck key. no other keys seem to work though. nor the menu buttons.
would safe mode mean some of the drivers are disabled? kind of like on a desktop computer?
And if so, how to get out of safe mode?
uhhh i never even been on safe mode.. is the led blue while its on? my advice would be to unroot but you cant get recovery functioning properly so im not sure what to do.. do you know what radio and hboot you have?
does it go to safe mode when you just boot up normally?
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does it go to safe mode when you just boot up normally?
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Yes, safe mode shows in the bottom left corner of the screen when I power up normally.
I should have writen down what radio and such as I saw it displayed when I was in HBOOT and installing the DREAIMG.nbh file but I didnt think to.
Now I am either getting the Welcome to T-mobile screen or the first step of the recovery screen depending on the button combo I use.
But I am unable to proceed to do anything useful.

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