guide wanted for the following - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I could search through the whole forum but maybe is a guide on it's place here.
Is there a way to backup all things except the installed Rom and Kernel, and maybe the launcher?
So smsses, applications and it's settings, keyboards etc.
Purpose: being able to install clean CM and applying a kernel and after that restoring all my applications, smss's etc...
Thanks for taking the time to explain this!
J

Why don't you just reflash new ROM without wipe? All you data you want stays and you have new rom.

I want to make sure nothing old remains. Why do they advise to do a wipe anyway?

wrong section but titanium backup should do the trick

huuub said:
I want to make sure nothing old remains. Why do they advise to do a wipe anyway?
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To ensure that no remnants of the previous Rom/kernel remain. If you notice weird behavior wipe is advisable

With other words it is unclear. That is why I want to do that.
Now I have Tit. backup on my device, however never really used it. (I bet 90% of the people don't). So my question remains. A little guide to be fool proof to do this.

huuub said:
With other words it is unclear. That is why I want to do that.
Now I have Tit. backup on my device, however never really used it. (I bet 90% of the people don't). So my question remains. A little guide to be fool proof to do this.
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It's very easy. If you are using Titanium (the paid version) go into the app and press the backup all apps + data option. This will copy everything. Once you wipe and reinstall a ROM go back into Titanium and press restore all apps +data. Pretty much simple as that

Thanks man!!! That indeed is not to difficult!

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Back Up Question

I will admit although I am a seasoned mac user and program specialist im totally lost with my fairly new Touch Diamond,Sprint, I have don many hacks and mods and i really like the phone. I would like to try different roms but i will only do so if i can totally back up the phone, I mean so i can just restore to the exact same way it is now Is this possible? Sorry for the possibly lame question. Thanks,
Mike
NOw that almost 40 of you have viewed this can i get some kind of answer
Hi
I use SPB backup.U can download CAB file from spb website.
But i never restored what i backedup.(exept contacts)
My backup file 30 mb and it does not contain any pictures,videos,music.
U can try do backup then uninstall some programs and try to restore.
That looks great.....but im on osx, so its a no go =/
mjb94 said:
That looks great.....but im on osx, so its a no go =/
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U DONT need computer to do a back up or restore,unless you format internal storage on device.
Install the program and do the backup.
The back up is stored on internal storage,you can keep the .cab file of the backup program there to.
So when somthing wrong-(wipe device) and after fresh install of windows install spbbackup .cab and then restore what ever you backed up.
Somthing like this
and forgive my english
ah very nice. thank u muchh
Is there a way to "image" the phone, so EVERY thing is backed up? Like installed programs, settings, contacts, colours... everything?
mjb94 said:
I will admit although I am a seasoned mac user and program specialist im totally lost with my fairly new Touch Diamond,Sprint, I have don many hacks and mods and i really like the phone. I would like to try different roms but i will only do so if i can totally back up the phone, I mean so i can just restore to the exact same way it is now Is this possible? Sorry for the possibly lame question. Thanks,
Mike
NOw that almost 40 of you have viewed this can i get some kind of answer
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There are many backup options available. You can use an app like Sprite Backup or Sashimi to backup anything you want to keep including the registry. Microsoft has the MyPhone service as an option.
You can always flash back to the shipped rom to get your device back to factory state. If you don't flash your device and you do some tweaks/hacks that screw it up you can always hard reset and start fresh. Good Luck!
mr.horndoctor said:
There are many backup options available. You can use an app like Sprite Backup or Sashimi to backup anything you want to keep including the registry. Microsoft has the MyPhone service as an option.
You can always flash back to the shipped rom to get your device back to factory state. If you don't flash your device and you do some tweaks/hacks that screw it up you can always hard reset and start fresh. Good Luck!
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Most backup options won't do a "complete" backup - like an "image" of the phone that can be put back on so that there is absolutely EVERYTHING on the phone back on it.
I'm talking like putting a ROM on, but it being my entire phone - settings, documents, call log, pictures, installed programs, etc.
The reason being is that I already had to hard reset earlier this week, and it's a pain to have to do EVERYTHING over again.
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Most backup options won't do a "complete" backup - like an "image" of the phone that can be put back on so that there is absolutely EVERYTHING on the phone back on it.
I'm talking like putting a ROM on, but it being my entire phone - settings, documents, call log, pictures, installed programs, etc.
The reason being is that I already had to hard reset earlier this week, and it's a pain to have to do EVERYTHING over again.
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I don't know if there is anything like what you want yet. I was trying to help the OP.
I think the closest thing you can get right now is Sashimi but I seem to remember that someone was working on something similar for frequent rom flashers.
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I don't know if there is anything like what you want yet. I was trying to help the OP.
I think the closest thing you can get right now is Sashimi but I seem to remember that someone was working on something similar for frequent rom flashers.
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I'm going to try Sprite Backup. Sounds like it might work.

[Q] Freeze and crash problem!!! Always!!

Whether rom&kernel i've tried (darky, tweaky, hawkish, extraordinary roms, semaphore, darky, cf root kernels) my phone always freezes anytime, anywhere. When i open a game sometimes it freezes in the loading screen, sometimes doesn't freeze. Sometimes when writing sms, sometimes killing tasks, everytime and everytime! I'm tired of this problem and it started to make me so angry! Please help if you have any suggestion.
There are two other posts in this sections that sounds like the exact same problem. Have you read them? Should be within the first 2 pages...
Edit: Ok just re-read, its similar, but still see if there are any solutions there that you haven't tried
Also are you restoring backups? If you don't restore them, does it still happen? Have you tried stock? Have you repartitioned? Have you cleared cache, dalvik cache. Factory reset after rom update? Turned lagfix off when flashing? Used odin to flash....
Need answers to these questions to help further... Always give as much detail as possible to enable us to help you in the most efficient way.
Talon26 said:
There are two other posts in this sections that sounds like the exact same problem. Have you read them? Should be within the first 2 pages...
Edit: Ok just re-read, its similar, but still see if there are any solutions there that you haven't tried
Also are you restoring backups? If you don't restore them, does it still happen? Have you tried stock? Have you repartitioned? Have you cleared cache, dalvik cache. Factory reset after rom update? Turned lagfix off when flashing? Used odin to flash....
Need answers to these questions to help further... Always give as much detail as possible to enable us to help you in the most efficient way.
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Thanks for your answer. Yes not at all but i've tried and read the other posts but they don't look like my problem but i exactly want to know what's causing this and suggestions, it makes me think if i have a hardware problem maybe, or what may be causing this and want to solve that problem forever, if it goes on i'll change my loved phone cause of this
Yes, i'm restoring backups using titanium backup, but without installing backups, it's the same, freezes, i didn't try stock and i don't wanna try i didn't repartiton, i cleared every kind of caches, factory resetted after update, turned off lagfix, didn't try odin
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Also are you restoring backups? If you don't restore them, does it still happen? Have you tried stock? Have you repartitioned? Have you cleared cache, dalvik cache. Factory reset after rom update? Turned lagfix off when flashing? Used odin to flash....
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Ok can you please answer the above questions then and give any further detail you can
Talon26 said:
Ok can you please answer the above questions then and give any further detail you can
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Yes, i'm restoring backups using titanium backup, but without installing backups, it's the same, freezes, i didn't try stock and i don't wanna try i didn't repartiton, i cleared every kind of caches, factory resetted after update, turned off lagfix, didn't try odin
Well then from those answers i think its obvious what im going to suggest
Try an odin install Darkyrom 10.2RE people say always works.. and is reliable. Ive used it myself. And I suggest repartition. This is because it gives you the freshest install like it is brand new. If it happens then as well, then you need to flash stock, again with repartition via odin, for the same reason and because you need to identify the problem. If you have problem with stock then it is most likely a hardware issue.
In terms of backup, do not do batch backups as this sometimes causes conflicts, instead select each app you want and pick backup, then restore only data. Market apps you have downloaded can be logged using "app list" from the market. Use this to pick which apps you want to restore and it will take you straight to them, obviously after you download that app from the market again.
Also backup you internal sd card on you computer (drag and drop) and then restore only what is needed. Titanium backup should be kept on exsd in my opinion, and you can move the default folder there via settings.
Darky10.2RE You only need to do the odin install the second install is if you want all the apps, but again this can be configured using the darkyrom app, if you miss anything go to the last tab in the app after flashing and it will be there for you to pick out.
Things that can are unlikely to be an issue- is your imei the same? Do you have the correct csc code?
Talon26 said:
Well then from those answers i think its obvious what im going to suggest
Try an odin install Darkyrom 10.2RE people say always works.. and is reliable. Ive used it myself. And I suggest repartition. This is because it gives you the freshest install like it is brand new. If it happens then as well, then you need to flash stock, again with repartition via odin, for the same reason and because you need to identify the problem. If you have problem with stock then it is most likely a hardware issue.
In terms of backup, do not do batch backups as this sometimes causes conflicts, instead select each app you want and pick backup, then restore only data. Market apps you have downloaded can be logged using "app list" from the market. Use this to pick which apps you want to restore and it will take you straight to them, obviously after you download that app from the market again.
Also backup you internal sd card on you computer (drag and drop) and then restore only what is needed. Titanium backup should be kept on exsd in my opinion, and you can move the default folder there via settings.
You only need to do the odin install the second install is if you want all the apps, but again this can be configured using the darkyrom app, if you miss anything go to the last tab in the app after flashing and it will be there for you to pick out.
Things that can are unlikely to be an issue- is your imei the same? Do you have the correct csc code?
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So much thanks for your answers and suggestions, but i don't want to use darkyrom i want to use s2 ported roms what should i do
Find them, under android development, its one of the pinned threads...2.3.4 roms or something. This is to identify the issue but as you wish, if you still have problems then maybe try darky then, or go to stock..
GL
Talon26 said:
Find them, under android development, its one of the pinned threads...2.3.4 roms or something. This is to identify the issue but as you wish, if you still have problems then maybe try darky then, or go to stock..
GL
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Thank you very much for your help, i'll try now and inform you about the results.
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Thank you very much for your help, i'll try now and inform you about the results.
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First i've installed stock 2.3.5 rom via odin and then extraordinary s2 rom via odin and the problem is mostly resolved but it rarely crashes sometimes but its not making me crazy cause it doesnt happen regularly. Thanks for everyone who tried to help me, especially talon

Some questions for my LG 4X HD

I have the LG 4x for some time now and i am wondering how to go about with it. I have certain questions, maybe knowledgeable people can answer them.
-I bought the phone with the German 10c firmware. I am now thinking of applying the European 10h one. When i click "software update" from the phone, it says no update available. When i click it from the LG pc suite, it says, the 10h is available, but does not give more information on which 10h it is. I also have downloaded the firmware from the internet, so i am wondering which is the safest, easiest, most certain procedure, to apply the updated firmware. I still have not rooted my phone. And what i have not figured out yet, is, DOES UPDATING THE FIRMWARE MEAN FACTORY RESET? Or is it more like a software update, where it just updates things needed to be updated, not touching anything else?
-Is it possible, if i root the phone, to unroot it, using a reverse procedure? You know, if the need for using the warranty arises.
-It really bothers me, the new type of file system with this android version. I ve been using the 2.3 before i got the phone, which requires, just a backup with clockworkmod and a copy of the external sd and you re done. Now, i don't know which is the best method to backup my phone. ALL apps, except for a couply of offline maps apps, install in the INTERNAL memory of the phone, all game data, etc, which has nearly filled half my phones internal memory so far. I understand that the only solutions to this, are root, and Directory Bind, and one other app i don't recall the name now. So, thats two reasons to root the phone, moving apps to sd, and using Titanium Backup with root, for backup. So the question is, what other option do i have for backup, WITHOUT root?
Everything else works great, good hardware on this phone!
ZTEBlade0 said:
I have the LG 4x for some time now and i am wondering how to go about with it. I have certain questions, maybe knowledgeable people can answer them.
-I bought the phone with the German 10c firmware. I am now thinking of applying the European 10h one. When i click "software update" from the phone, it says no update available. When i click it from the LG pc suite, it says, the 10h is available, but does not give more information on which 10h it is. I also have downloaded the firmware from the internet, so i am wondering which is the safest, easiest, most certain procedure, to apply the updated firmware. I still have not rooted my phone. And what i have not figured out yet, is, DOES UPDATING THE FIRMWARE MEAN FACTORY RESET? Or is it more like a software update, where it just updates things needed to be updated, not touching anything else?
-Is it possible, if i root the phone, to unroot it, using a reverse procedure? You know, if the need for using the warranty arises.
-It really bothers me, the new type of file system with this android version. I ve been using the 2.3 before i got the phone, which requires, just a backup with clockworkmod and a copy of the external sd and you re done. Now, i don't know which is the best method to backup my phone. ALL apps, except for a couply of offline maps apps, install in the INTERNAL memory of the phone, all game data, etc, which has bearly filled half my phones internal memory so far. I understand that the only solutions to this, are root, and Directory Bind, and one other app i don't recall the name now. So, thats two reasons to root the phone, moving apps to sd, and using Titanium Backup with root, for backup. So the question is, what other option do i have for backup, WITHOUT root?
Everything else works great, good hardware on this phone!
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All of your question was answered. don't be lazy
L2Deliver said:
All of your question was answered. don't be lazy
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Maybe they have been answered at some post in some thread, but i have no way of finding the exact post!
Why dont you help a fellow smartphoner and answer me here, if you know the answer?
1 - if you update via official SW it maybe leave data untouched and only update system
2- to unroot just reflash SW (via lgflashtool for example)
3- LGs backup app...
Maybe they have been answered at some post in some thread, but i have no way of finding the exact post!
Why dont you help a fellow smartphoner and answer me here, if you know the answer?
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You have a search feature in the forum, which you can use.
And the reason some of us don't answer questions that have been repeatedly asked and answered is that, if we do, we say that it's OK to open a thread to ask a question that's easilly answered.
But I'll do you a bit of a favor: I'll tell you WHERE you can find the information, and I'll even answer one of the questions (the last) since, regardless of having seen it asked and answered a few times before, I'm not able to direct you to the right place where this sort of question has been asked and answered.
ZTEBlade0 said:
I have the LG 4x for some time now and i am wondering how to go about with it. I have certain questions, maybe knowledgeable people can answer them.
-I bought the phone with the German 10c firmware. I am now thinking of applying the European 10h one. When i click "software update" from the phone, it says no update available. When i click it from the LG pc suite, it says, the 10h is available, but does not give more information on which 10h it is. I also have downloaded the firmware from the internet, so i am wondering which is the safest, easiest, most certain procedure, to apply the updated firmware. I still have not rooted my phone. And what i have not figured out yet, is, DOES UPDATING THE FIRMWARE MEAN FACTORY RESET? Or is it more like a software update, where it just updates things needed to be updated, not touching anything else?
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If you want to update it through flashing the .kdz, you should find that information in the respective thread, as it not only refers the correct method, but also the consequences.
ZTEBlade0 said:
-Is it possible, if i root the phone, to unroot it, using a reverse procedure? You know, if the need for using the warranty arises.
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This information can be found, as it turns out, in the two possible threads for rooting the LG 4X (one for ICS and one for JB). I'll give you a bit more help, as the threads aren't in the same sub-forum - the one for JB is in the General Forum, the one for ICS is in the Development Forum.
ZTEBlade0 said:
-It really bothers me, the new type of file system with this android version. I ve been using the 2.3 before i got the phone, which requires, just a backup with clockworkmod and a copy of the external sd and you re done. Now, i don't know which is the best method to backup my phone. ALL apps, except for a couply of offline maps apps, install in the INTERNAL memory of the phone, all game data, etc, which has nearly filled half my phones internal memory so far. I understand that the only solutions to this, are root, and Directory Bind, and one other app i don't recall the name now. So, thats two reasons to root the phone, moving apps to sd, and using Titanium Backup with root, for backup. So the question is, what other option do i have for backup, WITHOUT root?
Everything else works great, good hardware on this phone!
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Most backup programs don't care where you've installed your apps. That said, if you don't want to root your mobile, the only option you have is the LG Backup app. I'm not sure if it saves and recovers every bit of data (meaning the saves of your games and other information you may have configured into your apps), but it's your best bet for a root-less 4X.
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1 - if you update via official SW it maybe leave data untouched and only update system
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It "MAY" leave data untouched??? In computers, this word is not supposed to be used, either it WILL, or it will NOT. So you re telling me it will be an unstable procedure if i update via the official Software?
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Most backup programs don't care where you've installed your apps. That said, if you don't want to root your mobile, the only option you have is the LG Backup app. I'm not sure if it saves and recovers every bit of data (meaning the saves of your games and other information you may have configured into your apps), but it's your best bet for a root-less 4X.
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Great. So you re saying too, that the only backup option a non rooted user has is not even to be trusted. If it will not save apps data, its useless then. What am i supposed to do, play all games over again?
No, i used maybe , because i only flashing via LG flash tool and it erase all data ... but i THINK official update MAY leave data ( like on xperias phones)
its hard to root it, make complete backup and then flash it ? if answer is yes, dont go to upgrade...
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No, i used maybe , because i only flashing via LG flash tool and it erase all data ... but i THINK official update MAY leave data ( like on xperias phones)
its hard to root it, make complete backup and then flash it ? if answer is yes, dont go to upgrade...
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No, if there is a procedure, i ll follow it and root it, i am just thinking, that i read that 4.1 will have a DIFFERENT rooting procedure, so i was thinking to wait, upgrade to 4.1 and THEN root it.
I am now backing up for the first time from within the phone app, see how it goes.
ZTEBlade0 said:
I am now backing up for the first time from within the phone app, see how it goes.
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Well, the backup is over, just about 1.3gb. Strange, the internal memory is full up to about 6.5gb. I don't understand WHAT exactly it backed up! It said it will back up "app data", along with other stuff (contacts, call log, etc.). I have no idea what it backed up from the Apps. Left more confused than before!
maybe that backup is justl ike you backup via CWM - backup system and data, and this lg backup tool make data backup... so you backup all of your internal storage to PC (before that make backup of contants and messages) try update , and after that run restore ...
or you can root, backup, flash, root again, restore...
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It "MAY" leave data untouched??? In computers, this word is not supposed to be used, either it WILL, or it will NOT. So you re telling me it will be an unstable procedure if i update via the official Software?
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Official method leaves stuff untouched. It warns you it will erase the data, but from what I've heard, it doesn't. Although, everyone is advising for you to do a factory format after you update it, as it solves a lot of slowdowns and other possible incompatibility problems.
Great. So you re saying too, that the only backup option a non rooted user has is not even to be trusted. If it will not save apps data, its useless then. What am i supposed to do, play all games over again?
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Please stop putting words into other people's mouths. I said I'm not sure. I myself haven't used the app. Other users have been mentioned having used it (but then again you'd know that if you went to the trouble of looking around a bit), so I think it would be a viable alternative, but I won't vouch for it and/or its abilities because I have no experience with it.
Point is, if you don't want to use root, you lose the ability of writing into the /data folders (and some times even correctly reading from it). If LG, by some bending of those rules, made it so you can, count yourself lucky. If they didn't, you can't really blame them - it's Google's OS (who IMO should have come up with a decent Backup solution a long time ago).
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maybe that backup is justl ike you backup via CWM - backup system and data, and this lg backup tool make data backup... so you backup all of your internal storage to PC (before that make backup of contants and messages) try update , and after that run restore ...
or you can root, backup, flash, root again, restore...
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I did a backup using the LG app. So it said it backs up "application data, contacts, etc". Ok. The size is just 1.8gb. The used space in internal memory is 9gb. So i don't understand WHAT exactly it backed up from the applications. Everything EXCEPT for the "sd data" of games?
So i would do a firmware update, then a factory reset, to have the new firmware installed, CLEAN, then restore my backup. Right? So after the factory reset, it will have wiped ALL applications, deleted them from the internal memory? Is that correct? So i would use the 1.8gb restore, and what will it give me from my 9+gb applications (games, etc) that i have now?
Or, do i have to COPY all "sd data" files from the internal memory to PC, and restore the 1.8gb backup AND re-copy the "sd data" files of games and applications, back to internal memory?

Dirty flash or full wipe rom?

When should you do a full wipe when installing a custom rom and when is it ok to dirty flash? Can someone please explain?
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If you're changing bases it's always good to wipe. And if you're changing roms you should always wipe. But if you're just applying an update you might get away with a dirty flash. Save a backup first and you don't risk much with a dirty flash.
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lampel said:
If you're changing bases it's always good to wipe. And if you're changing roms you should always wipe. But if you're just applying an update you might get away with a dirty flash. Save a backup first and you don't risk much with a dirty flash.
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I apologize if this is a stupid question. When you say change base what exactly do you mean? Is this from one rom to another or a version change on the same rom like 5.0 to 6.0? Or is it a kernal change? If it is a version change would 5.1 to 5.6 be considered changing base?
Thank you very much. Again, I apologize if this is a dumb question. I have read around a little and did not quite get an answer I was comfortable with.
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I apologize if this is a stupid question. When you say change base what exactly do you mean? Is this from one rom to another or a version change on the same rom like 5.0 to 6.0? Or is it a kernal change? If it is a version change would 5.1 to 5.6 be considered changing base?
Thank you very much. Again, I apologize if this is a dumb question. I have read around a little and did not quite get an answer I was comfortable with.
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What rom are you using?
CYNiCAL2KX said:
What rom are you using?
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I am using VenomOne 5.7.0 but it is more of a general question. I am a bit new to this and want to have a good understanding of everything from the ground up.
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easyrabbit said:
I am using VenomOne 5.7.0 but it is more of a general question. I am a bit new to this and want to have a good understanding of everything from the ground up.
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Sorry I meant ViperOne...
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I am using VenomOne 5.7.0 but it is more of a general question. I am a bit new to this and want to have a good understanding of everything from the ground up.
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Sorry I meant ViperOne...
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'4.19.401.8' that is the current base which is in use by viper. Sometimes it's okay to flash, it's trail and error.
Always make a Nand before you flash, incase anything goes wrong, you can go back to the previous version, like a windows restore point.
A fresh install is wiping data and cache in TWRP it's called a factory reset. This doesn't format the /sdcard/0 so all sd card data remains.
If you were to flash a older base with a newer one, it may work perfectly, it may not, what I do is: Create a Nandroid of system,data,boot. Wipe, then install, then I restore data only. This way the phone tends to be (fairly) just how you left it, with messages, apps etc still remaining.
Like I said, after making a Nand, just flash unless the OP says specifically not to. Then if you have issues, it's a simple case of rolling back by restoring Data, System. I hope this answers your question, I think you'll just get the hang of how it works just by actually giving it ago, not much can really go wrong unless you start flashing things not meant for your phone.
CYNiCAL2KX said:
'4.19.401.8' that is the current base which is in use by viper. Sometimes it's okay to flash, it's trail and error.
Always make a Nand before you flash, incase anything goes wrong, you can go back to the previous version, like a windows restore point.
A fresh install is wiping data and cache in TWRP it's called a factory reset. This doesn't format the /sdcard/0 so all sd card data remains.
If you were to flash a older base with a newer one, it may work perfectly, it may not, what I do is: Create a Nandroid of system,data,boot. Wipe, then install, then I restore data only. This way the phone tends to be (fairly) just how you left it, with messages, apps etc still remaining.
Like I said, after making a Nand, just flash unless the OP says specifically not to. Then if you have issues, it's a simple case of rolling back by restoring Data, System. I hope this answers your question, I think you'll just get the hang of how it works just by actually giving it ago, not much can really go wrong unless you start flashing things not meant for your phone.
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Thank you very much for the info. So now I understand what the base is. Aside from time or laziness I would think that doing a full wipe is the way to go. Maybe I am wrong but I would rather not take chances.
Right now Iam currently having some issues. I basically did a dirty flash of the same version I am on to clear the theme and it went wrong. It never came back up after an hour in the "starting applications" state. After that I got back in to recovery (TWRP) and did full wipes and installs. They seem to go OK but then the android setup crashes right after the "name your device" part and the launcher wont start (chose Nova). Everything just hangs. I reboot but then it just hangs. I just did my nandroid restore and I am back up and running but not sure what is going wrong. I tried the install a few times with different options but everytime the setup part crashes. So my simple question is now another full blown issue haha.
I love this board tho, everyone is so helpful. One day I hope to be the one giving the advice.
CYNiCAL2KX said:
'4.19.401.8' that is the current base which is in use by viper. Sometimes it's okay to flash, it's trail and error.
Always make a Nand before you flash, incase anything goes wrong, you can go back to the previous version, like a windows restore point.
A fresh install is wiping data and cache in TWRP it's called a factory reset. This doesn't format the /sdcard/0 so all sd card data remains.
If you were to flash a older base with a newer one, it may work perfectly, it may not, what I do is: Create a Nandroid of system,data,boot. Wipe, then install, then I restore data only. This way the phone tends to be (fairly) just how you left it, with messages, apps etc still remaining.
Like I said, after making a Nand, just flash unless the OP says specifically not to. Then if you have issues, it's a simple case of rolling back by restoring Data, System. I hope this answers your question, I think you'll just get the hang of how it works just by actually giving it ago, not much can really go wrong unless you start flashing things not meant for your phone.
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May I ask, is restoring the data folder similar to adb backup/restore or even titanium? With titanium I could just restore messages or whatever. Doing the whole data folder could put back something I dont want or something I want to get rid of. With my current situation I think this might solve my issue with setup but I really wanted to start from scratch and retweak everything.
Regarding the base, I cant seem to find where I can check that on the device. It is not in settings-about where I would expect to find it.
I am finally working my nerve up to try this again and figure out why the initial android setup is crashing. I am getting more comfortable now especially since I know my nandroid restore works. Good fun but scares the hell out of me at the same time when things go wrong haha....
easyrabbit said:
May I ask, is restoring the data folder similar to adb backup/restore or even titanium? With titanium I could just restore messages or whatever. Doing the whole data folder could put back something I dont want or something I want to get rid of. With my current situation I think this might solve my issue with setup but I really wanted to start from scratch and retweak everything.
Regarding the base, I cant seem to find where I can check that on the device. It is not in settings-about where I would expect to find it.
I am finally working my nerve up to try this again and figure out why the initial android setup is crashing. I am getting more comfortable now especially since I know my nandroid restore works. Good fun but scares the hell out of me at the same time when things go wrong haha....
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Ususally most issues regarding cross flashed bases are problems derived from the system partition, however i'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I've never really had many issues restoring data. Also, once you back up data , you can install a Nandroid manager app where you can restore certain things from nand backups. This is what I chose to use over things like titanium as it's just another thing to do
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Ususally most issues regarding cross flashed bases are problems derived from the system partition, however i'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I've never really had many issues restoring data. Also, once you back up data , you can install a Nandroid manager app where you can restore certain things from nand backups. This is what I chose to use over things like titanium as it's just another thing to do
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Thank you very much. I have heard back and forth on wiping the system but had never done it till now. I am still not sure what was happening. in my initial installs I allways removed sense and used Nova. The last time I left Sense and most off the apps. I also 're-downloaded the zip. it worked like a charm. soon I will start investigating kernals and updating firmwae and antennas. Will play with the basics for a while first tho. eventually I would like to try my own. However the bar is set high with venomone.
I am now dealing with sense which is ok bit for me Nova is as close to perfect a launcher for me. still investigating battery lifevetc but will probably do another flash removing sense. venomone fixed everything I didnt like about it for the most part but I love to be able to swipe up or down anywhere to get quickbar and app drawer... still testing tho, I have a full life but definitely want to contribute here... my new obsession.

Updated CM12, now phone wont go past the "Sony" boot screen

I can access the CM12 Recovery but thats it. I have tried with many nightlies sideloading through adb or just from the sd card but it still isnt working. I don't mind downgrading but I can't work out how to.
H0lmEd said:
I can access the CM12 Recovery but thats it. I have tried with many nightlies sideloading through adb or just from the sd card but it still isnt working. I don't mind downgrading but I can't work out how to.
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Hello
You have to flash the stock rom with flashtool to recover the phone.
I give you a link of the stock rom for the xperia z3 compact.
And if you need instructions tell me here.
I hope that I help you.:good:
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ovejasrepublicanas said:
Hello
You have to flash the stock rom with flashtool to recover the phone.
I give you a link of the stock rom for the xperia z3 compact.
And if you need instructions tell me here.
I hope that I help you.:good:
Regards
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No offence but that's crappy advice, imo. If you tell people that the only way to recover from a soft brick is by restoring stock, you'll help raise a full generation of idiots. Flashing a stock .FTF can do many things if you don't know how to use Flashtool, including wiping the internal storage (which I'm sure OP doesn't want), and is only really necessary if nothing else works.
@H0lmEd: Try flashing the TWRP recovery (2.8.5.0 is the latest available version) and while you're at it, flash the boot image of the nightly you've downloaded. Boot into TWRP, then backup your data partition (if you have any data on there that you'd like to restore later). Then wipe /system, /cache, /data and dalvik (basically anything but your SD card and internal storage), and flash the ROM zip. You should be up and running again.
If you want to restore any apps and such, you can try just restoring from TWRP, or (preferably) using an app (like Titanium Backup) to restore your apps and their data from the recovery backup.
someone755 said:
No offence but that's crappy advice, imo. If you tell people that the only way to recover from a soft brick is by restoring stock, you'll help raise a full generation of idiots. Flashing a stock .FTF can do many things if you don't know how to use Flashtool, including wiping the internal storage (which I'm sure OP doesn't want), and is only really necessary if nothing else works.
@H0lmEd: Try flashing the TWRP recovery (2.8.5.0 is the latest available version) and while you're at it, flash the boot image of the nightly you've downloaded. Boot into TWRP, then backup your data partition (if you have any data on there that you'd like to restore later). Then wipe /system, /cache, /data and dalvik (basically anything but your SD card and internal storage), and flash the ROM zip. You should be up and running again.
If you want to restore any apps and such, you can try just restoring from TWRP, or (preferably) using an app (like Titanium Backup) to restore your apps and their data from the recovery backup.
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You offended me.I go with the good intetion to help other people.
I want to remove my account.There are more experts than me.Now i know that my help don´t served.
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ovejasrepublicanas said:
You offended me.
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While that was not my intention, and I do feel apologetic, that doesn't change anything. I don't know why you felt the need to write this.
I go with the good intetion to help other people.
I want to remove my account.There are more experts than me.Now i know that my help don´t served.
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I believe that your intentions were good, as were mine; I was simply pointing out that your advice is valid and satisfactory, but that there are many methods that are more efficient and overall superior.
You are free to remove your account should you so please, but having somebody correct you is no reason to wish to do that -- must I switch schools (or worse, commit suicide) because my math teacher corrected me when I had made an error!? We're here to help other people learn, both you and me. There are hundreds upon hundreds of people that know better than both of us, and we are here to learn from them. Taking the comment of your advice to your heart is no way to go about it (or anything else in life, for that matter). Instead what you should see is a short critique of your advice, followed by a comment on what is better and why that is so -- see the knowledge and helpfulness, don't stop because you did something that wasn't perfect.
And though my comment was not meant as a derogatory one, I do see that my poor choice of words could and, in fact, should, be improved upon.

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