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Is there a list of 'official' roms?

I was wondering if there is a list somewhere of "official" roms. By that, I mean manufacturer created. We have the usual Android that is made by Google and also the HTC Hero rom, but there are others on the way (like the moto blur and whatever SE have in the works) and I would like to see what I can do with them, which parts can be used in custom roms and just generally have a tinker.
I know there are lists of the custom roms around, but is there something like that for manufacturer roms?

Dev phone 1http://www.htc.com/www/support/android/adp.html#s3
Google I/O Device (Ion)http://www.htc.com/www/support/andro...io-device.html
Here's two.

There's a question mark in the thread title, so I can see why Q&A would be a highly inappropriate place for this thread
Testing has listed the ION/ADP1 ROM links, Rogers HTC Dream ROMs do have to be ported to the T-mobile G1, so there's no point in finding links for the original ROM. I don't believe any MotoBlur ROMS *shudder* have been released.

Ah my apologies, I sometimes forget the other sections exist since I spend all of my time in the this part.
Thanks for the links. Well your shudder at the moto blur rom is kind of my point. There's bound to be some parts of it which are nice and can be put to use in other roms, which is why I'm looking for a list of the manufacturer roms. I'm kind of hoping if Android gets ported to platforms other than mobiles we will start to see features that can be used on our phones which expand on the standard smartphone features. That's when Android will really start to take down the iPhone.

Is there a list of 'official' roms?
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is there a Q&A section?

stefan.buddle said:
is there a Q&A section?
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Was your aim to point out what was already pointed out?
If it was, congratulations. I already apologised. Try reading the rest of the topic in future.
I can't move it now so you'll just have to stop crying.

Theme set up

I read Stericson's post but honestly I liked how it was set up the old way. What do you guys think? Would it be possible to bring it by "Popular Demand" of what we the users want? Or is it set and locked like this for ever. I don't know imo makes things a bit confusing..

I agree with you. I only have a G1; therefore, I have only tested my theme with a G1, and anyone with another android device, while it should work, but I will not know whether it will work out of the box. Also, I do not care to see all of themes made exclusively for the htc hero (since those will not run on the G1). There should be the android themes forum for themes that have been made to run on every android phone on this site, but there should be a place in the specific device forum for themes that will only work with that phone.

Exactly, it should be kept within the appropriate device section how it was before. I have XDA DREAM bookmarked never saw the front page in my life until today.

lmao, so i am not the only one that has never seen the front page. i forget there are even other areas on this site. like you said about having a dream, that is what i have, i don't want to see things for other devices that i cannot use, or other people with other devices to see what i have and cannot use it.

I thought that dream/magic were the only 2 phones on this site since i had those bookmarked.

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lmao, so i am not the only one that has never seen the front page. i forget there are even other areas on this site. like you said about having a dream, that is what i have, i don't want to see things for other devices that i cannot use, or other people with other devices to see what i have and cannot use it.
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same here lol

i was so confused when i saw all the threads in the theme section were marked as read, then i noticed they were moved and i thought to myself "this does not please me." haha

yuh now i had to re bookmark and its not as easy on the phone now i have to re direct my bookmarks..this is honestly a bad decision but id probably get banned for speakin my mind!

mrnv45 said:
yuh now i had to re bookmark and its not as easy on the phone now i have to re direct my bookmarks..this is honestly a bad decision but id probably get banned for speakin my mind!
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no joke lol
codani got banned for that

It is onwise to speak your mind here
But screw it, this new setup is absolutely retarded
Can't find what you are looking for and what device it runs on

even better, go look past the first 2 or 3 pages in the dream themes and wallpapers section, nothing has been moved. all of the device specific stuff was moved to general, and all of the general was left in the device specific area. now i just feel even more confused by this decision.

[SOLVED/THANK YOU MODS]moving of themes

frankly: this sucks big time. the theme section is so crowded with themes for all the dream and magic and cyanogen mods, our few hero themes disappear. looking into the theme thread i can only find one(!) theme for the hero on the first page. also the titles are not always indicating clearly for what device/rom the themes were made.
seriously guys, at least give us a subforum for hero themes. i didn't see the problem with posting them here (in the thread called "themes and apps"), are you really expecting me to go through hundreds of themes for the dream, to find the hero themes? come on...

Agree, sucks....
Whats wrong with having the themes for the hero in the thread entitled "HERO Themes and Applications"
It needs to have every post title changed to show what device/ROM its for before its usable.

I agree too, even with edited titles, it's still going to be messy and we'll end up missing most of the themes for Hero as they will just get lost in the flood of G1 themes

I have to agree as-well, the hero themes does not work with any other phone anyway

This sucks...

Yes, it sucks!
I did my first Themes and now nobody can find it.

Have to agree lumping all the themes from different devices together is a big mistake.

I would suggest, that either:
- The themes be left here on the "HTC Hero Themes and Applications";
- Or, that subforums for the phone models be made on the "Android Themes" section.

Agreed, this is a horrible way to compile everything. Only reason I am even posting this is so the mod team can see they made a mistake by the number of people posting about it.

Agreed.
The Hero and G1 themes should be separate.
The G1 has been out a lot longer and it floods the forum (I should know I had one! )
Seriously mods, please rethink your strategy.

Its bad, and its not fair seeing upcoming themes for other devices too lol

While I understand your frustation here, the point is that there is no point in keeping the themes in seperate places.
Almost every theme will run on any rooted phone. Therefore they are being meshed together. Now, Like I've said, Your theme devs, will need to label their posts accordingly so you can sort through them quickly.
For instance, a hero theme would look like this:
[Hero Theme] *title of theme here*
Its a simple thing to do.
This is a benefit to the entire community to do this. Which is why its been done.
Stericson

Every theme runs on every rooted phone??
I can't believe!
No way!
When it is so, I say sorry, but I can't really believe.
we have SenseUI here.

Stericson said:
While I understand your frustation here, the point is that there is no point in keeping the themes in seperate places.
Almost every theme will run on any rooted phone. Therefore they are being meshed together. Now, Like I've said, Your theme devs, will need to label their posts accordingly so you can sort through them quickly.
For instance, a hero theme would look like this:
[Hero Theme] *title of theme here*
Its a simple thing to do.
This is a benefit to the entire community to do this. Which is why its been done.
Stericson
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so you are saying that my rooted hero will run any theme made for g1?
but i downloaded themes for dream, sapphire and found out that maximum image names are different. so how will hero run those themes?
then why we make themes for different devices then? why did u guys make seperate theme sections in the 1st place?

Yes every theme will run on a rooted phone PROVIDED you have the apropriate rom loaded for the specific theme on your Rooted phone....

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Yes every theme will run on a rooted phone PROVIDED you have the apropriate rom loaded for the specific theme on your Rooted phone....
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yeah really funny since we got... wait let me recount... exactly one custom rom for the hero (yes i know there are others, but not really worth to mention).
well i guess we just have to eat the **** they are throwing at us, they are the mods...

Than I don't want to publish my themes here anymore!
It makes now sence, because no one can find them.
for a few days there were many themes at once and every Hero user in this section was happy to use them.
Now....
Sorry, I can see threads and postings from many users, who are not embraced about this changes.
but when the admins and mods are that mind it is better, then we, the themes maker must agree with that.
Admins, mods:
Take it seriously! Everybody thinks, this changes are not good!
carry out soundings of public opinion

Guys lets not give up just yet! I always found xda developers willing to listen to the people in the past after all its THE PEOPLE that make a great forum.
Also try and post comments here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591137 in one place where our Dream users brothers can also post

Even though I don't like using themes, I cannot see the sense in moving Hero themes to the generic Android themes section. The sub-forum is STILL called 'Hero Themes and Applications' - how ridiculous!

Stericson said:
Yes every theme will run on a rooted phone PROVIDED you have the apropriate rom loaded for the specific theme on your Rooted phone....
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So its not true that all themes run on all phones. Your phone has to be rooted, AND it has to have the appropriate ROM loaded for that specific theme.
Goodness. That's kinda a lot to look for in a theme.

Complaint Section - NO SWEARING!!

I locked the thread because of the language, not for the complaints.
Let me say that this has been done because every theme can be run on any rooted phone. Since this is the case then themes need to be moved to the "general" theme section since they can be put on any device.
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I don't mind the complaints, but the language in which yall choose to voice yourselves is not acceptable.
Stericson
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Well since complaining is fine....
POST COMPLAINTS HERE BUT WITHOUT THE LANGUAGE!!!!!
Then it wont get deleted!
Ill go first:
I Hate the way android and windows mobile combine!
I hate the new move!
It was dumb because the original one was fine! and i was on it since the beginning!
now i gotta add more bookmarks where as all i had before was one for it all:
Dream - That was all i needed... it seems to clutter my part up now and that stinks! lol
Complaint away!!! lol

Well like I said, there was no point in keeping all the themes seperate when they, so far, work on any device.
As for having a hard time finding them, you just need to have your theme dev label his thread correctly to help you sort through them.
People always hate change, no surprise

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Well like I said, there was no point in keeping all the themes seperate when they, so far, work on any device.
As for having a hard time finding them, you just need to have your theme dev label his thread correctly to help you sort through them.
People always hate change, no surprise
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they DID label them before the move and they do not run on any device lol

Yes they run on any rooted phone with the appropriate rom loaded.

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Yes they run on any rooted phone with the appropriate rom loaded.
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my dear bro. i tried 10 themes from dream and sapphire and not a single of them run in my european hero. i had to do nandroid restore in every case.

Like I said, youd have to be running those roms
but your phone is capable of running them. If your running a hero rom, then look for the themes marked Hero.
If your running cm rom, look for any g1/mytouch theme....
Stericson

in that case i will have to look for hero rom as i have hero and in here i see 100 of themes in them only 10 for hero. dont u think this is difficult to search for these?
and if there is a quation of rom compatibility then how come u r saying every theme will run in every phone?
and 1 more thing... its not that i will leave this forum if u keep theme section like this but the thing is that maximum users are complaining this new system. this forum is for the users and if max users complain about this then whats the point of keeping it?
cheers man.

A phone is strictly a piece of hardware, and any rooted phone, with the appropriate rom(software) loaded, can run any of these themes.
And yes there are only about 10 hero roms, there are not many of them.
And no I dont find it difficult, as I've looked on the first two pages and found them, clearly marked with "Hero"
Stericson

Stericson, I completely see your point about the merging of the theme areas. I have a MyTouch and browsed the Dream Theme area regularly (and almost never visited the Magic Theme area). While this does lead to a certain bit of confusion by putting everything in the same area (just as the Magic 32a/b rom differentiation gets confusing). Would it be possible that when a dev posts their rom, have all of the rom details in the first post, and all of the supported themes in the 2nd post? Granted, this would probably cause alot of work on everybody's part, but it would make our whole environment better as everything corresponding to a rom would be in a single place.
Now, I know what you're thinking. With this, we'd have to worry about the clutter in the Dev forums; however, what about breaking up the Dev forum to have it be strictly a place for Dev's to work and brainstorm, then setup a seperate area strictly for releases/contributions. I don't know, just an idea.
Ps. For an example of the 1st post Rom, 2nd post Themes, check this out by Enomther. A couple people got posts in between his, but you get the idea.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456

If only life was that simple
Stericson said:
A phone is strictly a piece of hardware, and any rooted phone, with the appropriate rom(software) loaded, can run any of these themes
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Sorry but this statement is simply not true. A theme designed for the same hero rom running on both the dream and hero will NOT run on both. A good example is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572151 I also think its very clear that the mass majority of htc "android" users are against this move, whats more is that a simply poll on each android themes section would of made this clear and could of avoided the trouble we android users now face.
Oh and I DO understand that clearly labelled post could avoid any problems but that fact remains that most if not all themes moved are not labelled with there device name included.

I make Themes for Hero. I don't think they work on any other device.
For every ROM you must change anything/many things.
No, guys, so I didn't want to use this section to release my themes.
It's hard work.
In the forum "HTC Hero THEMES and Apps" there must be this themes placed...
Give me one of the themes in this new section, that works on an Hero!
Thats completely.....ouhhh!
If I can spell english so good as german I could better explain, what I mean.

Putting all the themes for "Android" was a bad idea. Plain and simple.
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Yes they run on any rooted phone with the appropriate rom loaded.
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Your argument would hold if there was a Cyanogen ROM that COULD be used on the Hero, which there isn't.
I don't know who's bright idea it was to put all the android themes together, but it did not help in any way, no matter how much you argue.

Stericson said:
A phone is strictly a piece of hardware, and any rooted phone, with the appropriate rom(software) loaded, can run any of these themes.
And yes there are only about 10 hero roms, there are not many of them.
And no I dont find it difficult, as I've looked on the first two pages and found them, clearly marked with "Hero"
Stericson
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Well consider the fact that not every (and probably no) developer is going to have every Android device and therefor cant test and verify that their theme runs on whatever device. Even if they are all running the same rom you are asking us to assume that they will work for any device with a compatible rom. I dont think that will be the case honestly. But either way, it still begs the case of organization. It would still be more organized to have sub-forums for things like themes on a device to device basis and if the dev finds that their theme works for different devices and chooses to add a thread under another devices themes forum that should be their choice.
There is a reason that personal computers group system sounds in a system folder and give you the option to store your music in a different place. Its more organized!

Well putting all the android thems to gether has just made it a huge mess ...
Instead of having a nice overview i need to go search for themes and i will miss new themes this way
Place restore the android theme sections as they where so a seperate theme section for every device.

anyone else notice the contradictions that happened when stericson talks???
HAHA
you are in a battle with your own statements, which in my opinion... do not make sense when put together cause they say 2 different things lol

If I have to add another bookmark its no big deal. The g1 theme section is a mess either way because of all the different builds out for the g1. I was gonna suggest that they make submenu's for different builds such as cyanogen, dwang, hero etc. Either way its no biggie to me.

Said it before say it again.. Went from working and clean to cluttered and not working so well. Dont know why they wont change it back as I have not seen anyone who likes it better this way. Thought the whole reason for a fourm is to see what the people like and want.... well its pretty clear what we all want we want it to be the way it was. it was working just fine...

Ryanmo5 said:
If I have to add another bookmark its no big deal. The g1 theme section is a mess either way because of all the different builds out for the g1. I was gonna suggest that they make submenu's for different builds such as cyanogen, dwang, hero etc. Either way its no biggie to me.
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So let me get this right..... the old dream theme section was a mess and could of benefited from splitting into even more sub sections but now that 3 different devices theme section have been merged to make a bigger mess.... its no biggie?!
Sorry you really have lost me with that one....

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Sorry but this statement is simply not true. A theme designed for the same hero rom running on both the dream and hero will NOT run on both. A good example is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572151 I also think its very clear that the mass majority of htc "android" users are against this move, whats more is that a simply poll on each android themes section would of made this clear and could of avoided the trouble we android users now face.
Oh and I DO understand that clearly labelled post could avoid any problems but that fact remains that most if not all themes moved are not labelled with there device name included.
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If I put this rom on my G1 then yes it will run on my phone. I know very well how themes work and the limitations provided by them.
For now, we will move the hero themes back.
Stericson

Thank you
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If I put this rom on my G1 then yes it will run on my phone. I know very well how themes work and the limitations provided by them.
For now, we will move the hero themes back.
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Sincerely THANK YOU! this was a major problem for hero users at this time.

What happened to gsm and cdma development links

what happened to the sub categories of the GSM and the CDMA development.
I logged in today and only one.
does it not matter what version you have of the Tab anymore?

smali26 said:
what happened to the sub categories of the GSM and the CDMA development.
I logged in today and only one.
does it not matter what version you have of the Tab anymore?
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Less mess now.

ya i was just asking the same question. kinda silly that they removed them. i know there were some issues with honeycomb port and SOMEONE posting the same info in 4 categories unnecessarily. they should just make one honeycomb sub category instead of mixing everything up again. what a stupid move mods.

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i dont think they should have separated them just because of one honeycomb port. i mean i appreciate what your doing but its not worth it to combine everything again just because of that.

cuz we will soon have a Galaxy Tab WiFi development

whoever decision it was, it was a stupid one.

i wish the moderators would change it back. it makes it more confusing.

cant one simply have one development forum, which shows all the development threads.
And then one has 3 subcategories; GSM, CDMA, WIFI.
And the creator of the thread can decide in which subcategories to display his thread.
Development - All Threads
|-GSM
|-CDMA
|-WIFI

I figured since there wasn't any development they removed it. Hmmm
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