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My N1 is rooted running CyanogenMOD 5.0.7.1, color trackball alerts, the Desire Camera, Helix Launcher, etc... basically all the goodies. I know a lot of people in my situation went back to stock and flashed the pre-release Froyo. My question is why? I watched the Google I/O conference and yeah, Froyo looks great, but it doesn't seem like there's anything (other than Flash) that Froyo can do that all these custom ROM's out there can't. Is there something in Froyo I'm missing that I can't get in these custom ROM's? I'm thinking about just waiting until Cyanogen comes out with his own custom Froyo ROM....
I think it's the google apps that are different. they look good and work better. for me the Froyo didn't had the bugs that where in eclair. Btw the live wallpapers work better on froyo.
Mainly - Flash, JIT and a speedier browser. Nothing that can't wait for a month.
Browser speed is enough for me, since that's what I use most on my phone.
- JIT
- Flash
- Chrome to Phone
- Install to SD (without having to deal with creating the SD partitions)
- Froyo Radio is more stable/reliable (from my own experiences anyway)
I'm also using pershoot's .34 kernel and LauncherPro and the overall "experience" is excellent.
Way better than CM5.0.7.x? No, but it was enough for me to jump on the bandwagon.
i'm the opposite kinda, i am using cm 507 and WANT to try out froyo, but not sure if its gonna be worth it cause A) i dont wannt burn in my screen any worse with that horrible white notification bar, and B) not sure about the new radio update (is it better or worse?).
i'm the opposite kinda, i am using cm 507 and WANT to try out froyo, but not sure if its gonna be worth it cause A) i dont wannt burn in my screen any worse with that horrible white notification bar, and B) not sure about the new radio update (is it better or worse?).
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A burn isnt because froyo. It isnt even a burn it isnt annoying me. I even can barely see it. I have my nexus almost 4 months and always used white bar and the burn is almost invisible i had to lool closely to see it
B for me the new radio is way better have more bars. The 3g speed at home has improved. So i am happy with it
You can try froyo if you dont like it go back to cm.
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commodoor said:
A burn isnt because froyo. It isnt even a burn it isnt annoying me. I even can barely see it.
B for me the new radio is way better have more bars. The 3g speed at home has improved. So i am happy with it
You can try froyo if you dont like it go back to cm.
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the burn in i'm talking about is when using the standard white notification bar. this has been permanently burning in your screen and many people have it including me. since froyo cant truly change the notification bar color, using froyo will continue to worsen your screen using that horrid white notification bar. this is why i'm hesitant on switching.
about the new radio, i've read both good and bad. some people love it, and others hate it. so i dont know which to believe until i try it myself. again, this is the reason i havent yet jumped at froyo. of course i could always switch back if i dont like it. but laziness....
Bluetooth implementation is better in Froyo with my headset at least. For that alone I won't go back
If you're worried about burn in, the latest version of launcherpro lets you hide the notification bar.
I'm currently using it, my notification bar is hidden, and I'm on completely stock 2.1 unrooted rom.
I was happily running CM5.0.7.1 and decided to try FroYo. I found that the benefits were no where near enough to outweigh the excellent features I was missing from CM (not least the themes).
In the end I decided to go back (although in the process managed to brick my phone in a new and never-before-seen way but thats another story!)
In any case, the FroYo that is about turned out to be a non-final version that was pushed out by mistake. Google has since withdrawn it.
My advice is to just wait until the FroYo code is in AOSP and Cyanogen releases a CM6 branch based on it.
CM6(when it appears)>rooted 2.2>CM5.0.7>2.1 Which is why I'm using 2.2
rsm86 said:
If you're worried about burn in, the latest version of launcherpro lets you hide the notification bar.
I'm currently using it, my notification bar is hidden, and I'm on completely stock 2.1 unrooted rom.
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i wonder if it works on froyo. so does it hide the notification bar all the time, or only on certain screens? how do you pull down the notification shade?
RogerPodacter said:
i wonder if it works on froyo. so does it hide the notification bar all the time, or only on certain screens? how do you pull down the notification shade?
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Works on froyo. Only hides the notification bar when you are on homescreens. To bring it down you just hit the menu button, and it'll show.
Namuna said:
- JIT
- Flash
- Chrome to Phone
- Install to SD (without having to deal with creating the SD partitions)
- Froyo Radio is more stable/reliable (from my own experiences anyway)
I'm also using pershoot's .34 kernel and LauncherPro and the overall "experience" is excellent.
Way better than CM5.0.7.x? No, but it was enough for me to jump on the bandwagon.
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I agree with you. It all depends on what you use your phone for. The things named up above is what matters most to me. Little customizations like themes. I have apps that are taking advantage of jit, there is no way I'm going back to cyanogen until next release. If apps2sd didn't work then I would go back but even that works
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I upgraded from CM5.0.6 to Froyo. I loved the JIT and the new Gmail app, but in the end it was a wee bit too unstable for me for daily use, so I went back to 5.0.6 and then upgraded to 5.0.7.
My Froyo has proven VERY stable for me.
I love the new Gmail app, now I can receive Gmail from my other account and stop having to forward everything.
JIT? man oh man, I love how my Nexus flies now!
It is noticeable faster than before!!
Apps2SD was never a concern for me, as I keep things to a minimum.
Will I go back to Cyanogen?
Nope.
But I will upgrade to a Cyanogen powered 2.2
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Works on froyo. Only hides the notification bar when you are on homescreens. To bring it down you just hit the menu button, and it'll show.
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yeah i finally tried it out. and i finally updated to froyo too tonight.
Sorry if this is a naive / frequently asked question, but I've searched and haven't found an answer.
Does anyone know why trackball colors only seem to work for mms/sms in CM6 / enom 2.9.2 (and possibly on other custom froyo ROMs)?
Enomther's ROM even has settings for different apps, but they only seem to work for sms. Other notifications come through with the standard white flash.
I thought froyo was supposed to have native support for trackball colors?
Is it just the apps don't support it, but if that's the case how come some of the apps that bring up colored trackball notifications on custom 2.1 ROMs don't on these 2.2 ones?
Did you try enabling "Trackball flash while screen on" on Enomther?
Trackball colors in Froyo are pre-selected and you can't change them, unless you use Trackball Alert app, or use custom ROMs. Also, the phone wouldn't flash anything by default when the screen is on.
I know you can't change the colours on stock 2.2, but I'm talking about custom roms (CM6, Enom).
The only notification color I can get to work is mms/sms, on either of these roms (screen on or off).
Every other app/notification gives a white flash (and on Enom's rom it doesn't matter what I set in the spareparts trackball settings).
Just tried it on Enomther with Email notification, indeed stays white.
Jack_R1 said:
Just tried it on Enomther with Email notification, indeed stays white.
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Gmail app does not have trackball colors is enom's ROM, it has been this way for as long as I can remember.
SMS, voicemail, missed call and the native Email app all light up for me the colors I select.
Gmail Notifier will give you different colors on stock Froyo or custom roms. It's what I use.
In the development section there's an active thread that enables trackball flashing in succession of all the alerts you have waiting...Those mods are a hit and miss as they will work with some (CM, Modaco, and some others) but DONT work with a few as well. If you try them out, just make sure you nandroid because if it doesn't play nice you'll get stuck in a loop during boot animation
kavyt said:
Gmail app does not have trackball colors is enom's ROM, it has been this way for as long as I can remember.
SMS, voicemail, missed call and the native Email app all light up for me the colors I select.
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Cool, thanks. Got confused, thought that Email stands for Gmail too.
Tried using Gmail notifier, the major problem with it is that it can't be turned off. And I allow Gmail notifications only on special occasions. Guess I'll stick with the white light.
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Cool, thanks. Got confused, thought that Email stands for Gmail too.
Tried using Gmail notifier, the major problem with it is that it can't be turned off. And I allow Gmail notifications only on special occasions. Guess I'll stick with the white light.
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didn't know that about turning it off...Locale sort of puts my phone in the correct mode to take care of this, but I'm finding the location setting lagging quite a bit or sometimes not picking it up at all.
Colored trackball flashes for Gmail work for me on on Enom's 2.1 rom (1.9.2), but not on the 2.2 version.
CM6 you can on the MMS, the rest, there is no option for color. It doesn't support the trackball alert either.
Yup, but my question is: Why?
2.1 based custom roms had coloured trackball alerts for everything.
why not 2.2?
GlenH said:
Yup, but my question is: Why?
2.1 based custom roms had coloured trackball alerts for everything.
why not 2.2?
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Enom has colored alerts for everything but Gmail, but you can download gmail notifier and get lights for everything.
Most other 2.2 roms work with trackball alert for colored trackball alerts.
Im confused on what your asking for?
As I say, I can't get any to work apart from mms on enoms 2.2.
It's not just gmail that doesn't work for me. Missed call, answer phone message etc are all white flashes too, no matter what I set (this is with a fresh install btw).
CM6 is just a release candidate. Given some time I'm sure a lot of liked features from previous CM's will begin to work there way back in.
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As I say, I can't get any to work apart from mms on enoms 2.2.
It's not just gmail that doesn't work for me. Missed call, answer phone message etc are all white flashes too, no matter what I set (this is with a fresh install btw).
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Possibly look at your install. If it is working for everyone else and not you im leaning towards a bad install or backup.
I personally hate titanium backup as almost everyone who reports issues with installs uses it.
I don't know if this idea has been tossed around or not, but obviously there are people out there like me who miss having an LED or trackball flashing for notifications on the Nexus S. Something I thought would be cool is to somehow have the soft keys at the bottom of the phone flash or light up whenever a SMS, MMS, E-Mail etc. comes to the phone. Does anyone know if this is possible? I'd like to have something like that for this phone. Hell, I'll even provide a generous donation if it really is possible. If it's been done before, let me know. Thanks all.
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I don't know if this idea has been tossed around or not, but obviously there are people out there like me who miss having an LED or trackball flashing for notifications on the Nexus S. Something I thought would be cool is to somehow have the soft keys at the bottom of the phone flash or light up whenever a SMS, MMS, E-Mail etc. comes to the phone. Does anyone know if this is possible? I'd like to have something like that for this phone. Hell, I'll even provide a generous donation if it really is possible. If it's been done before, let me know. Thanks all.
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I'd really suggest trying to use the search function before making threads, mate, 'cause this is about the fifth time someone has asked that. Yes, there's an app that will do that but it requires a some coding in custom kernel that's unavailable right now. Patience.
In the meantime, I suggest you check out NoLED from the market. That app will use your screen with little colored dots/icons showing what kind of notification you've received. Aside from the colored dots, the rest of your screen will be solid black which on SAMOLED consumes almost no power so the impact on battery life is negligible.
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I'd really suggest trying to use the search function before making threads, mate, 'cause this is about the fifth time someone has asked that. Yes, there's an app that will do that but it requires a some coding in custom kernel that's unavailable right now. Patience.
In the meantime, I suggest you check out NoLED from the market. That app will use your screen with little colored dots/icons showing what kind of notification you've received. Aside from the colored dots, the rest of your screen will be solid black which on SAMOLED consumes almost no power so the impact on battery life is negligible.
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I didn't see anything about this particular subject when the Title brought up the results so I figured it hasn't been talked about yet. Furthermore, I'm not that much of a fan of NoLED when I tried it but maybe I'll give it a second go until something else comes about.
Is there any way that I can go back to the look of Messaging from Android 2.2.2?
I've just moved into my Note (running ICS 4.0.3) from my trusty old Dell Streak, and am very disappointed to find that messaging uses the common speech bubble layout, which I hate. 2.2.2. on the Dell presented messages in a black and white text format, one message underneath the next, and I'm extremely keen to get this back on the Note.
Is there any way I can either tweak Messaging 4.0.3 to look like 2.2.2, or else can anyone recommend a messaging app that doesn't use left/right side speech bubble/boxes but presents messages in - dare I say it, at the risk of sounding arrogant - a more adult way?
Thanks.
That isn't the ICS messaging app, it's Samsung's skin. There are a few different messaging apps such as GO SMS but I've never used any.
Many thanks.
I've installed Handcent and I think I may indeed be able to tweak it to my liking. Under a "Bubble settings/conversation style" you can choose "Android", which is very close to what I'm used to.
Problem solved - I think!
Good to hear you solved the problem. The beauty of Android, if you don't like something change it!
Hello, I would like to know, is it possible to keep a stock rom, and have the same keyboard as Cm 9? Don't know if it's the same as the normal ICS one. I use the ICS keayboard app from Google Play, it's really good, keyboard is the same, but I liked the way it underlined the wrong words in red, a bit like Microsoft Word!
And also, is it possible to have the same type of sms app? With the pictures of our friend always shown for new sms's and not just bubbles.
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Hello, I would like to know, is it possible to keep a stock rom, and have the same keyboard as Cm 9? Don't know if it's the same as the normal ICS one. I use the ICS keayboard app from Google Play, it's really good, keyboard is the same, but I liked the way it underlined the wrong words in red, a bit like Microsoft Word!
And also, is it possible to have the same type of sms app? With the pictures of our friend always shown for new sms's and not just bubbles.
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For your first issue. You wont get it to underline in red, because that is handled by the SMS app, not the keyboard. and why are you on XDA and using GB anyway?
So, this can't be done with a stock rom?
I'm on XDA because I used to have a Custom rom, CM9 then, Remics. But I use Tango quite often and apparently this app doesn't work with roms so this was kind of a deal-breaker. Moreover, tha camera app and the browsing experience was better with the stock rom, easier to watch Flash videos on my phone