Mobile signal - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have alot of problems when out of wifi/3g areas.
When im in a 2g zone i have to twist the phone and point it in a specific direction to get a data connection.
WTF
Am i the only one with that problem?
Doesnt matter what ROM or Radio i use.
Kinda sad about that, never had these issues on my Magic.

I guess i will have to send my N1 to repair since im the only one with the problems.
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The antenna is at the bottom and in low signal areas your hand can interfere with reception. Might be what you're experiencing.

Does anyone know of a Nexus One tear-down that clearly documents and shows the actual size, shape and location of the different internal Cellular, BT and WiFi antennas? Even a sketch with dim's would be helpfull.
TIA,
Bob, B.
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Nexus One
T-Mobile
Manualy updated to 2.2

The only teardown I've seen is here: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-One/1654/1

Thanks, it's kind of hard to tell what's what though.
Bob, B.
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Nexus One
T-Mobile
Manually updated to 2.2

Does anyone know of a Nexus One tear-down that clearly documents and shows the actual size, shape and location of the different internal Cellular, BT and WiFi antennas? Even a sketch with dim's would be helpfull.
TIA,
Bob, B.
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Nexus One
T-Mobile
Manualy updated to 2.2
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If you read that I fix it link I asked this exact question and they responded to me. Read the comments on the above link.

Thanks, I didn't even know there were comments until you said so.
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My idea is to:
1.
Start with a snap on hard shell case.
2.
Add connectors to the case for the external Nexus One charging pins.
3.
Laminate foil element/s to the inside bottom of the case.
4.
Laminate a foil reflector element to the outside bottom of the case.
5.
Laminate foil element/s to the outside top of the case.
6.
Laminate a foil reflector element to the inside top of the case.
7.
Electrically connect the appropriate element/s with thin shielded wire epoxied to the outside of the case.
8.
Electrically connect the reflector elements to the ground pin.
9.
Possibly add an extend-able whip.
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The idea is to relocate the radiating element/s passively to a better location for improved range, reception and battery life. It would also make sense to improve the element/s as well.
The Nexus One antenna issues are well known, lets just say I need mine to work allot better.
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The questions are:
A.
Can something like this actually work well enough to bother doing it?
B.
How hard would it be to design much improved element/s without having to stuff them into the phone itself like HTC did?
C.
Does the Cellular, BT and WiFi all use the one antenna element?
D.
Would it be best to simply mimic the exact size and shape of the existing element/s?
Any input is welcome.
Bob, B.

No they do not all share the same antenna. Most phones share a single antenna between Bluetooth and WiFi because both use 2.4 ghz and I believe the nexus does this too. This antenna is located near the top of the phone. The cellular antenna is obviously at the bottom shown in that tear down. I'm not sure where the gps antenna is.

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Anyone ever consider using their phone as a garage door opener?

Well the title pretty much says it all...
I was just wondering if there was any way this was possible...
I mean after all, it cant be that difficult of a program to work.
if you can find a door opener that works via bluetooth then sure! why not?
icewhitenewyear said:
Well the title pretty much says it all...
I was just wondering if there was any way this was possible...
I mean after all, it cant be that difficult of a program to work.
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Oh man, I'll never be bored to read this board . Please keep us inform if you succeed that .
icewhitenewyear said:
Well the title pretty much says it all...
I was just wondering if there was any way this was possible...
I mean after all, it cant be that difficult of a program to work.
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or through home wifi net. Probably you'll be able to use one of pc remote programs.
but there is other way how this could be done. with any phone, just ringing number. there is a device, based on simtoolkit which you should place in any old cheap mobil with simtoolkit (nearly any) with prepaid sim card just for receiving. it's connected through sim reader connector. device is configurable, you can have more outputs. you can set it to open when number is ringed from predefined numbers. e.g. just one ring, without answering.
you can have sms's being send from home as alarm triggers.
i wanted to use this in car. to open car, as car alarm, i think it also can send cell id as sms. it was intended for this purpose. also has acceleration sensors in it.
http://www.bladox.cz/index.php?lang=en
icewhitenewyear said:
Well the title pretty much says it all...
I was just wondering if there was any way this was possible...
I mean after all, it cant be that difficult of a program to work.
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I only looked at this thread coz i thought it was some kind of joke lol. Kaiser doesnt have an infra red port so unless you have a garage door opener that works on either bluetooth or wifi i very much doubt anything can be done.
One of these hooked to a momentary relay would do it. Attach the relay to the door opener button. You could also turn on the lights, unlock the doors, pretty much any thing you wanted.
Just do a search for the garagedooropener.cab file somewhere here.
There is also a boilwaterwhileyouconvertvideos.cab, and
swatfliesinthekitchen.cab, and
smokingcigar.cab, and my all-time favourite, the backmassager.cab
Hope this helps
OMG It works! Don't need to install anything!
Step one: Hold Tilt in the middle, with the top facing upwards. Very important!
Step two: Push the top of the tilt into your Garage Door opener button.
Step three: PROFIT!
Yes, it's possible... Currently, I'm working an a project for opening doors via bluetooth. I use the hardware of a bt headset to trigger a relay that opens the door. It's already working, but I haven't had the time to build it into my backdoor... I have tested it with my Qtek 9000, working flawless. And tested the security also: other phones can't connect to the lock, without having the proper code.
And remember: there has to be a *mechanical* backup solution also, in case of electricity failure...
khaytsus said:
OMG It works! Don't need to install anything!
Step one: Hold Tilt in the middle, with the top facing upwards. Very important!
Step two: Push the top of the tilt into your Garage Door opener button.
Step three: PROFIT!
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i can confirm this method works hahaha
you made my day
Here is the cab you need Garagedoor.Cab
Install, Hard reset, And BAM you are in buisness. You can thank me later.
khaytsus said:
OMG It works! Don't need to install anything!
Step one: Hold Tilt in the middle, with the top facing upwards. Very important!
Step two: Push the top of the tilt into your Garage Door opener button.
Step three: PROFIT!
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OMG HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Garade door openers operate on the 390 megahertz band. Unless the magical radio fary jumped in our devices the phone's cannot/will not operate on that band. The only thing that is allowed on that bandwith (according to the F.C.C.) is Military Freq's and, (you guessed it) Garage Door Openers.
icewhitenewyear said:
Well the title pretty much says it all...
I was just wondering if there was any way this was possible...
I mean after all, it cant be that difficult of a program to work.
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Being as garage door openers are RF and you have nothing in the phone to xmit on those frequencies it should be easy right?
hahaha there was already a thread about this like a few months back but yeah that would be sick using the blue tooth for a garage opener. i would also like to see my tilt transform in to a 8in tall robot with laser and rocket boosters to if anyone nows how pm me lol
The problems I see are range, and delay. Are you going to drag your phone out, wait for it to pair, then open the door while you are parked right in front of the garage? Most decent cars have homelink or you can just use your stock remote. I use a 2 channel EMX receiver that is inside my gate post with a high gain antenna for over 1000 foot range and a wire running to the garage for the garage door. When I round the corner to come down my street I hit one homelink button for the gate then immediately the button for my garage, and the gate is open by the time I get there. No waiting, no fumbling, easy as can be. Convenience drives innovation, making something more difficult to do just because it's one less device isn't really the best bet.
A friend of mine has a home automation system installed. He can control anything in the house from a website, which also has a pda companion application. He can turn on/off/dimm any light in the house, control the a/c temp, unlock/lock front and rear door, fans, blinds, and... you guessed it garage door!
I forgot how much he paid for it but its a new home and had it installed during construction. So i guess check out the first link and do some research on home automation systems. You can do it so you can only control one aspect, dont have to network the entire house.
Ok, there are a lot of people making fun of the question he made, but it is not that stupid.
No, not all "door openers operate on the 390 megahertz band", there are a lot of other frequencies available (I've seen 27MHz and 2,4G for example), in this case we have specifically one, 2,4GHz in bluetooth and WiFi. Given the low power of the bluetooth radio in our PDA, it has a low range but can be used as the user Tacoboy said. For the specific application of a garage door I would suggest WiFi, given the wider coverage of those devices.
It is not that slow, you can connect you PDA to a access point pretty quick...
Actually I am thinkig of doing something similar in free time. I've found this thread because I was wondering if someone had already done this and supplied the source codes, making it more easier .
I am plannig on doing a main application to be used on a old computer that will be used as the "central" for the automation system, who will receive instructions over the network for several tasks, for example open the garage door... This can be accomplished using webservices or something similar.
You can argue that just using the stock remote is much faster, and it is, but the standard remote cannot connect to the internet and open you garage door remotely in case someone is at your door and you are stuck in traffic, for example
works!!!
Try the X10 module
fone_fanatic said:
A friend of mine has a home automation system installed. He can control anything in the house from a website, which also has a pda companion application. He can turn on/off/dimm any light in the house, control the a/c temp, unlock/lock front and rear door, fans, blinds, and... you guessed it garage door!
I forgot how much he paid for it but its a new home and had it installed during construction. So i guess check out the first link and do some research on home automation systems. You can do it so you can only control one aspect, dont have to network the entire house.
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It is definitely something that can be done, but how much are you willing to pay to do it.....I'm not talking about on the radio band cause that one is not really possible....reasons stated above......but with remote management via internet and automation/plc control computer to plc to electric relays....yeah it is very plausible. There are field irrigation systems that work on the sim card recieve only system. You call them up on your cell and turn them on, set how long they are to be on for and all sorts of other neat stuff. Just don't really see the cost effectiveness as a new garage door opener runs 20$. these are at least in the hundreds to thousands range no matter which way you go. If someone is there in your driveway and needing the door opened hope you installed one of the touchpads that you can give him a temp password to...also just thinking $$$

No service - any suggestions?

I broke the screen of my tilt (I'll remember not to put my phone in a bag that also has a wrench in it). bad
I bought a new screen online and managed to replace it (way more involved than I expected). good except.....
I cannot get a phone service. Everything else seems to work. The screen looks/works fine. Apps work fine. Wifi works fine. I am just not able to get cellular service.
I tried a hard reset. nope.
I am using one of Dutty's ROMs (forget exactly which at the moment)
Am I missing something obvious? Does anyone have a suggestion? Or am I now stuck with an expensive, mini wifi device?
to add to my own post..
I sort of suspected an antenna problem but am kind of ignorant to how the antenna works on my phone. Are there separate antenna for the wifi and cellular signals? What/where is the antenna(s)? Under what is called the antenna cover I see four brass contacts but the matching contacts in the cover do not seem to go anywhere.
Can anyone explain this to me?
Which leads me to...
When I opened up the back again I noticed that I have three springing brass connections on the board and one flat one. Since all four matching connections on the cover are flat I guess I must have broken off one of the springy ones. The missing spring-connection is one of the pair on the upper left corner.
I tried to temporarily rig a connection with a piece of folded aluminum foil to see if I could get some signal but had no luck.
Can anyone with more knowledge in this area tell me if I might be on to something or just barking up the wrong tree?
Just to keep talking to myself and keep my loyal audience updated ....
I re-rigged the connection using a (tiny) piece of sheet metal and was able to pick up a slight signal and unreliable signal. I am actually on to something.
Now how do I make a more permanent connection?
I am not all that confident in my soldering skills to solder something so small/delicate at this time. I have heard of conductive glue but am not sure how well they work and if they will affect the function if the antenna (being as I don't understand how the antenna works). Do I just try to hone my soldering skills and hope for the best?
What metal should I use for the contact? Does this impact the function of the antenna?
Progress but ever more questions.

[Q] Need solution for "Nework Signal" problem

I bought an unlocked G1 (Stock Firmware 1.6). When I inserted my sim (2G vodafone) in it, it worked. I could make calls and send msgs. I could also connect using wifi and bluetooth etc.
Later, I realized that I was loosing network randomly (any time-any place) even at those places where I got full signals in my "htc Tornado". When there is no network in my G1 and I try to manually search for network and connect, it says "your sim card does not allow connection at this time". I tried sim cards from same and different service providers but same problem.
I did case study and ruled out following possibilities:
1). Since I tried several other sim cards, there is no problem with my sim or service provider.
2). Since I get full coverage and I can make calls sometimes, so the unlocking was done successfully.
3). I also checked the radio version, it was up to date. But still, I tried re-installing the radio....no luck
4). Even if I don't have network signal, I am able to connect using wifi and bluetooth. So, I "think" and "beleive" that my radio hardware is also fine.
.....Possible problems left:
1). Hardware (loose sim connections etc)
2). Firmware
....I "Rooted" my G1...and upgraded to "CyanogenMod 6 RC1".....But the problem did not solve.
Now, the "firmware" possibility is also ruled out.
Then I searched to various forums and blogs and I found several other people having the same or similar problem. Below are few links:
1). http://androidforums.com/g1-support/5192-g1-no-signal.html
2). http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2845
Then I found a solution (Below is the link - I posted). I just have to turn off/on the "autosync" and turn off/on the "radio".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8047496&postcount=29
PS. Toggling ONLY radio "off/on" does not works mostly.
Now there are two problems:
1). The solution has to be applied several times in a day to get continuous network.
2). What exactly is happening? How is this problem related to "Autosync" (if it is).
Can somebody please try to understand what is the problem? We need help......
EDIT: If I reboot after connecting to my laptop (having drivers installed) I will have full signals as long as I stay connected.
Is there a apn showing under the networks list? Like T-Mobile US?
Whenever I have network bars...I can see Vodafone APNs in the list but when there is no signal...the apns are also gone.
I also think (not sure) that whenever I am connected to wifi...I don't loose signal frequently and even if I loose....they come back automatically...I don't have to do autosync toggle and radio toggle.
Can somebody please take interest and help me????
Try to find an apn for your carrier and do it manually...see if that helps.
Unlockin' phones always result in manually setting up networks ,apn's and all sorts of things.
So try that .
Sent from my HTC Dream using XDA App
I tried that but it did not work. Moreover, I'm using CM6 rom which have all the APN settings of my service providers. I tried with two different service providers.
Please find a solution for me....My G1 is out of action.....
Have you tried to flash the latest radio?
..Yes...I have the latest radio from the cyanogen's site. I'm running CM6.
Can you plz tell me what commands can be run from adb shell to fetch out various information and logs about network, radio etc, so that I can provide you more details.
Menu > Settings > About Phone
Android Version: 2.2
Baseband Version: 62.50SC.20.17H_2.22.23.02
Kernel Version: 2.6.34.5-cyanogenmod
Mod Version : CyanogenMod-6.0.0-DS
Build Number : FRF91
##### Older #####
Android Version: 1.6
Baseband Version: 2.22.19.26I
Kernel Version: 'don't remember
Build Number : DRC93
Note: I had the problem with original firmware (without rooting) as well as the 2.2 firmware (rooted).
As long as I am connected through USB to my laptop, I don't see any network problem
same problem here!
since 2 months ago, I'm having EXACTLY same problem as you.
it happens with 1.6 vodafone original, 1.6 roms, 2.1 roms, 2.2 roms... (cyano, theOriginal,superatmel,htcmania)...
with radio updated and all the stuff. I also put it back to original 1.6 with perfectspl via a sapphire image I found in htcmania. I have STOCK 1.6, but I keep having EXACTLY THE SAME problem that you describe.
p.d. I'm Vodafone in Spain.
I'm thinking of taking the phone to the store where I bought it and have HTC fix it.
I have found a sure shot thing......please see if this can help to troubleshoot the problem.
Most of the time I don't have signals. If I reboot my phone the problem does not solve. But, if I connect my phone to my laptop (having android phone driver installed) and then I reboot my phone....I get full signals. I can make calls as long as phone is connected and there is no problem during that period.
Now I don't understand what is the problem and why is it happening?
I've had the same problem here and there. At first I thought it was a side effect from running Froyo on my MT3G that has been carrier unlocked for maybe 9 months but I was wrong..I switched back to Donut and had same issues. So I called T-mobile US and they did a network reset that helped for maybe an hour or so, they explained that maybe my phone could have been "Locked on to a cell tower that was just close enough for the phone to connect to" I just figured I'd play dumb and say OK. I personally believe that it's the cell tower here near my house causing the problem. As of right now my phone isn't acting up so who the hell knows, maybe in my case it has to do with the hspa+ upgrades as of late in my area.
Hey have you tried toggling to just the edge network and seeing what happens?, when my phone starting acting up that seemed to allow me to keep a consistent signal. You mentioned "you tried re-installing the radio", did you mean it was unsuccessful re-installing or it worked but no improvement? You should also check out HTC's developer website if that's the case, they have a good tutorial on reinstalling the radio image.
Good luck hope I had sensible input.
What do you see when you type *#*#4636#*#* into your dialer and select "Phone Information" and scroll down to "Set preferred network type"?
I believe you wanna see "WCDMA preferred" in a normal setting. It will change what it displays if you toggle to edge through the settings menu.
nrmerritt said:
I've had the same problem here and there. At first I thought it was a side effect from running Froyo on my MT3G that has been carrier unlocked for maybe 9 months but I was wrong..I switched back to Donut and had same issues. So I called T-mobile US and they did a network reset that helped for maybe an hour or so, they explained that maybe my phone could have been "Locked on to a cell tower that was just close enough for the phone to connect to" I just figured I'd play dumb and say OK. I personally believe that it's the cell tower here near my house causing the problem. As of right now my phone isn't acting up so who the hell knows, maybe in my case it has to do with the hspa+ upgrades as of late in my area.
Hey have you tried toggling to just the edge network and seeing what happens?, when my phone starting acting up that seemed to allow me to keep a consistent signal. You mentioned "you tried re-installing the radio", did you mean it was unsuccessful re-installing or it worked but no improvement? You should also check out HTC's developer website if that's the case, they have a good tutorial on reinstalling the radio image.
Good luck hope I had sensible input.
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....any word towards solving this issue is useful for me....and thanks....
Earlier I was using WCDMA setting but later I changed it to GSM Only because my service provider does not support 3G. In either case, I had the same problem.
I succeeded installing the radio but that did not solve my problem.
So, what are you doing with your phone now?
nrmerritt said:
What do you see when you type *#*#4636#*#* into your dialer and select "Phone Information" and scroll down to "Set preferred network type"?
I believe you wanna see "WCDMA preferred" in a normal setting. It will change what it displays if you toggle to edge through the settings menu.
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I have set it to "GSM only" because my service provider supports only EDGE. I have switched off auto-sync.
Do you have any idea about why it works when I'm connected to USB?
logcat of radio
Hi!
I am attaching here the output from #logcat -b radio
plz. see if someone can find a culprit in it.
Thanks
This is normal. Learn to live with it.
I have ****ty tmockery service here. Of our 5 family phones, only my wife and I (G1's) have relatively decent service. I modded ours as listed below. My children's phones, samsung gravity's, have horendous service! They have to walk around to find a spot. All of this is at home... we live in a low spot. There is no chance of us ever getting 3G in this area.
Our G1's used to have the same issues as theirs. I modded our G1 antennaes with psuedo- tesla coils and doubled our coverage! I'm using the xda app right now and can't take or post photos of it, but it works. I'm also running the lasest radio. 23.02 I think..
We live in a brick home. Before, I would have to walk to the far left vorner of our backyard or the frontyard near the road to get enough service to make a call without losing service. I'm sitting in the bathroom right now and have 4 bars! Used to be that I would get one or none right here!
I'll give you basic instructions and will post pics later. I take NO responsibility if this burn, breaks or melts your device. Only do this on phones that have no warranty or the warranty has been voided! IE. I have a bronze and replaced the silver keys with black ones! This will void any warranty you have!!!
Remove back, batt, and sim. Take a wire, your choice of size, and remove the insulation. Sepparate all the strands. Choose one strand. Remember, the thicker the strand, the harder time you'll have keeping your back on the phone. There's very little clearance in there. On the back of your phone, the radio antenna is on the right side. Same side as your volume button. On the lower end of it, remove some of the paint/sealant. 4mm x 4mm maybe... enough to solder on. Set your wire end on this spot. Lay the wire down the phone's back. You will need this to be inside the flat area and not on the curved slope. When you get to the same spot on the bottom, make a sharp turn left. Go close to the sim card area and make it turn up. Near the battery are turn it right. Once you get near the wire again, turn it down. Stay about 2mm away from the wires original path. Continue these turns until you run out of room. In the end, you'll have a wire that spirals to its center in a box fashion. Lay the wire back on the phone and press out any imperfections. Next, solder the begining end of the wire to the spot on the phones antenna. Use caution when soldering! Practice on something before trying this! The phones antenna is held in place by small tips of the plastic going though it and melted down. If you get the original antenna too hot, you will mess up these little tips. Solder the wire with as little solder as possible. Make sure the wire is as flat as it can be with the antenna and is making good contact! Now, make sure the wire is as flat as possible on the plastic. Put a couple of dots of superglue on the length of wire down to the corner. Let these set, holding the wire in place. Don't let your finger become attached to the glue. Use only enough for it to make contact and stick! With superglue, less is best! After this length dries, start glueing each corner of the coil, not letting any part of the wire touch itself. Maintain the sepparation down to the center. After it's dried, you will need to file down the solder to make sure your back will fit. If you can't get the cover to fit, you may need to scratch some grooves into your back cover. When you set the back on the phone, it may make slight indention in the plastic where the wire is pressing against it. If not, maybe use a little chalk to outline the wire and then put the back on. The point being to transfer a line to the back where the grooves need to be made. The plastic of the back is not verry thick! Use caution or you could go through the back! You should see significant gains in signal strength. Mine has been modded for close to a year now. No problems so far.
Pics later today.
Sent from my BBQ flavored G1 using XDA App
....Ok...you put the pics....let's see how scary is this...
.....did you try a signal booster (an after-market thin antenna kind of thing placed under the battery) before doing that??

[Q] Blocking Smart phone readers

Has anyone seen in the news the electronic readers the government is using which is capable of illegally stealing all private information from any type of smart phone?
Can anybody create a mod that will block a device like this from being used on the Nexus one?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/cops-us...l-cellphone-data-from-innocent-americans.html
Do you really believe what you read?
Say, 16GB of photos&data on iPhone, 1.5 minutes, count required transfer rate - quite simple - and then tell me, what kind of wireless connectivity does this "device" use to "steal data from unsuspecting people"?
Then ask yourself the first question again.
Now, if you look up the stated device's manufacturer site, http://www.cellebrite.com/forensic-products.html, you'll see that even in their photos it's perfectly clear this device has to be connected by wire to the phone. Does anyone in their right mind willingly connect the phone by USB to some device with unknown functionality? In that case, no, the data can't be protected.
Now, if you go even one more step further, and open the "supported devices" catalog on the site, you'll see that the only thing that can be done wireless to the iPhone is extracting phonebook - and I'm not sure about the requirement to allow the BT connection - but if you look up Nexus One, you'll see that it definitely has to be attached by wire to do anything with it.
And now back to the first question: do you believe everything you read?
Jack_R1 said:
Do you really believe what you read?
Say, 16GB of photos&data on iPhone, 1.5 minutes, count required transfer rate - quite simple - and then tell me, what kind of wireless connectivity does this "device" use to "steal data from unsuspecting people"?
Then ask yourself the first question again.
Now, if you look up the stated device's manufacturer site, http://www.cellebrite.com/forensic-products.html, you'll see that even in their photos it's perfectly clear this device has to be connected by wire to the phone. Does anyone in their right mind willingly connect the phone by USB to some device with unknown functionality? In that case, no, the data can't be protected.
Now, if you go even one more step further, and open the "supported devices" catalog on the site, you'll see that the only thing that can be done wireless to the iPhone is extracting phonebook - and I'm not sure about the requirement to allow the BT connection - but if you look up Nexus One, you'll see that it definitely has to be attached by wire to do anything with it.
And now back to the first question: do you believe everything you read?
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But, it's on the internet, why would the internet lie? Are you calling the internet a liar?
I believe that if you soak your phone in warm, salty water overnight it will block this device - haven't tried though, so I can't confirm...
Umm... those Cellebrite devices are very real, and Michigan police are/were using them. The have the ability to pull the data off of thousands of different types of phones, over USB. I've never see Android specifically listed on their site, but I'd be willing to bet their devices can pull data from Android too.
That being said, I can't believe people are handing over their phones. This whole thing stinks of illegal search and seizure. But, they're getting away with it by saying the person willingly handed over their phone (even though I'd bet they're being coerced), There would be absolutely no way I'd hand my phone over to any LEO with out seeing a warrant first.
I was just mulling this over in my head... and I think the only way to block something like this would be to disable the data port on the phone. What that would involve from a software stand-point, I have no idea, and may not even be possible with how the hardware/software is designed... but that is basically the only way I'd see it to be possible.
Removing the USB driver (device functions) from the kernel would be enough, I believe.
In order for adb to work, you have to enable usb debugging. Wouldn't that be a requirement with this device, also?
ok just because I pulled this from prison planet doesn't mean its not true, it was the most convenient link at the time and hours later it was on front page of yahoo and all the major news sites. it would be easy for a police man to take your phone from you and hook it up to whatever they want.
Yep, saw it tonight on NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams. Looks scary with some cops not using warrants to get your phone on a traffic stop...

[Q] What kind of RFID tags can the NFC read?

This is my first phone with NFC, and I was assuming I could read RFID tags with it. So far, I haven't had much luck. I used the "NFC TagInfo" app and was able to scan my touch-to-pay bus pass, but it didn't recognize any of my other proximity-based cards. That is, when tapping the cards to the phone, the app didn't even respond.
Next, I went around the house looking for items with RFID stickers (I could have sworn I had them all over, but found surprisingly few). I found a book that had one of those flat stickers with the metallic coil antenna and the phone didn't recognize that either. I also tried it on one of those security stickers that are slightly "bumped" out rectangles . I even tried scanning my cat who has one of those RFID capsules implanted for identification, and no luck there either.
Clearly I misunderstood the concepts of NFC and RFID. What types of devices/tags can the NFC on the Moto X interact with?
(PS: I tried attaching images of examples of the different tags I was talking about, but xda won't let me since I'm new)
droible said:
This is my first phone with NFC, and I was assuming I could read RFID tags with it. So far, I haven't had much luck. I used the "NFC TagInfo" app and was able to scan my touch-to-pay bus pass, but it didn't recognize any of my other proximity-based cards. That is, when tapping the cards to the phone, the app didn't even respond.
Next, I went around the house looking for items with RFID stickers (I could have sworn I had them all over, but found surprisingly few). I found a book that had one of those flat stickers with the metallic coil antenna and the phone didn't recognize that either. I also tried it on one of those security stickers that are slightly "bumped" out rectangles . I even tried scanning my cat who has one of those RFID capsules implanted for identification, and no luck there either.
Clearly I misunderstood the concepts of NFC and RFID. What types of devices/tags can the NFC on the Moto X interact with?
(PS: I tried attaching images of examples of the different tags I was talking about, but xda won't let me since I'm new)
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NFC is Near-Field Communication. RFID is Radio Frequency Identification. In theory they are similar, but the technology behind them are quite different. RFID requires a power source whereas NFC does not it one major difference. I've looked into this a lot (I wanted to digitize my work badge into my phone) and found these two cannot be combined in any fashion unless one of them incorporates the other. As in, the RFID scanner at your work also has an NFC chip in it basically.
What you can do with NFC is device to device communication linking and sending of data. Also NFC tags can be used to execute tasks. In its nature it is a very very simple type of technology that is essentially IFTT (If This Then That).
MKBHD has a pretty good video about it thats quick. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp5il7yhM4Y
Also, install this app if you have any NFC tags to mess with. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jwsoft.nfcactionlauncher&hl=en
You can get some tags here: http://www.tagstand.com/

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