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YouMail Visual Voicemail Android App Beta

Don't know if anyone else has seen this yet (or cares), but since I love YouMail, I thought I'd post this up.
They have a link in this forum topic to download the .apk file, but since it says it's a closed beta, I'm not sure if you need to have YouMail allow your YouMail account to use the software.
LMK
http://api.youmail.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=15

Downloaded. It works pretty well. No option to save MP3 messages to SD. Uses polling, which can be a total pain in the ass, and kinda pointless for a voicemail system.
I actually started writing this app about a month ago, but the project manager(i assume) didn't really understand what I was talking about. I tried explaining to him that polling from the device is kinda a kludgy approach, and they should try and implement a different system. I even went so far as to writing a small server side program that would ping the device when there was new messages.
Here's the weird thing though, I sent him a long email one day asking him a bunch of questions about the hardware and software they're using for this system(so I can better design this software), and he never got back to me. THEN, a few weeks later(a month maybe) calls me asking how things are going.
Mind you, I hadn't signed any agreement with them, no deal was in place, and I do have other responsibilities. After a week or so I just assumed they were going with another developer. I assumed from the beginning that there were multiple people working on multiple apps, and they would just release the best one first. Oh well, that's my run-in with them.
Other than all of the above, the service itself is VERY useful. As far as the app is concerned, I think it's a great first-go, but it needs a little refinement. It's a bit slow, and scheduled server checks just isn't going to cut it. Why manually check my messages when I can have them deliver it in MP3 for to my email directly on my phone?
In anycase, good job whoever wrote the app!

I installed it and it shows my messages however it doesn't play anything. I click open and it just sits there. Im running cm 3.4 with hero 1.2, maybe thats why

How is this compared to PF Voicemail?

Probably not as cool as a dedicated app, but I:
1. Simply turn on email notifications on the youmail website with the option to attach an MP3 of the voicemail and send the emails to my gmail account
2. then I setup a filter in gmail to label all youmail messages with attachments to "YouMail"
3. I put a shortcut on my homescreen by "add shortcut" "Gmail label" "YouMail"
4. for good measure I tell the Android message settings to sync emails in the youmail folder for 4 days worth of voicemail in case I run into a problem with my network connection.
Instant Visual Voicemail with push.

wagz said:
Probably not as cool as a dedicated app, but I:
1. Simply turn on email notifications on the youmail website with the option to attach an MP3 of the voicemail and send the emails to my gmail account
2. then I setup a filter in gmail to label all youmail messages with attachments to "YouMail"
3. I put a shortcut on my homescreen by "add shortcut" "Gmail label" "YouMail"
4. for good measure I tell the Android message settings to sync emails in the youmail folder for 4 days worth of voicemail in case I run into a problem with my network connection.
Instant Visual Voicemail with push.
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Yea, that's pretty much what I do too...I wish you could set it up to automatically download attachments though, especially since the beta app kinda sucks right now.

The app is in Open Beta now - feel free to download and try it out.
The only thing we (I) ask is that if you find any problems, or have any suggestions - either send us an email ([email protected]) or join in the discussion on the forums.
And yes, currently you need a free YouMail account in order to use the app. At some point you'll be able to sign up as part of the installation process, but that's in a later version.

YouMail for G1
Hi,
Could I please ask that you send *me* a private email with details about who at YouMail you were talking to? I'm the one responsible for the Android app and this is the first I have heard of someone contacting us regarding this app.
Regarding your comments about polling. We would absolutely ***love*** to push your voicemail to the phone similar to the way our Blackberry cousins get their email. Problem here is that in order to do that YouMail would need an interconnect agreement with T-Mobile (and other carriers) letting us use their push technology (yes, the G1 software does support push). The chances of T-Mobile (and other carriers) allowing that to happen are pretty much nil. (We all know that competition is bad... don't we?)
So, out of the box, what the Android app does is:
* Poll every hour to catch up on changes you may have made via the dial-in interface, or the web site (you can adjust it to be as often as every 15 mins, or as infrequent as 'never')
* Poll a couple of minutes after you miss a call - to see if the caller left you a message
* Poll when one of YouMail's special TXT messages arrives (the kind that start with "New VM:....")
* Manually initiated
That's the best approximation to push that we've been able to come up with considering the limitations. The drain on battery is actually remarkably low.
Of course, if you choose to receive your voicemails via email go for it!
I'll put a post up on the YouMail forums explaining battery usage.
Thanks
Doug
InGeNeTiCs said:
Downloaded. It works pretty well. No option to save MP3 messages to SD. Uses polling, which can be a total pain in the ass, and kinda pointless for a voicemail system.
I actually started writing this app about a month ago, but the project manager(i assume) didn't really understand what I was talking about. I tried explaining to him that polling from the device is kinda a kludgy approach, and they should try and implement a different system. I even went so far as to writing a small server side program that would ping the device when there was new messages.
Here's the weird thing though, I sent him a long email one day asking him a bunch of questions about the hardware and software they're using for this system(so I can better design this software), and he never got back to me. THEN, a few weeks later(a month maybe) calls me asking how things are going.
Mind you, I hadn't signed any agreement with them, no deal was in place, and I do have other responsibilities. After a week or so I just assumed they were going with another developer. I assumed from the beginning that there were multiple people working on multiple apps, and they would just release the best one first. Oh well, that's my run-in with them.
Other than all of the above, the service itself is VERY useful. As far as the app is concerned, I think it's a great first-go, but it needs a little refinement. It's a bit slow, and scheduled server checks just isn't going to cut it. Why manually check my messages when I can have them deliver it in MP3 for to my email directly on my phone?
In anycase, good job whoever wrote the app!
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mustang_52 said:
I installed it and it shows my messages however it doesn't play anything. I click open and it just sits there. Im running cm 3.4 with hero 1.2, maybe thats why
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If you could send me some details I might be able to help.
The app downloads all message data via http.

Sistum Id said:
How is this compared to PF Voicemail?
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This is what I'm waiting to hear about before taking the plunge...

Left myself a message and I got the alert. I ran the app and then it says I have a message. I click on the number that was the caller and well nothing seems to happen. I see what appears to be a download button and across a phone/speaker.
Nothing seems to make any noise.
Also this app was in my recently ran apps tray so does this app start on phone turn on or do you have to manually start for the alerts. Also the polling is that to check for messages or to pull down the audio?
The reason I ask this stuff is there really isn't any discriptions of what does what and most apps appear to be straight forward.
Looks like I just got a text now saying I have a message. Thats what brings me to the polling. Does it poll every hour on top of the text message?

kizer said:
Also the polling is that to check for messages or to pull down the audio?
The reason I ask this stuff is there really isn't any discriptions of what does what and most apps appear to be straight forward.
Looks like I just got a text now saying I have a message. Thats what brings me to the polling. Does it poll every hour on top of the text message?
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I don't know if this is or isn't the info you're looking for, but this info was in the original post for somebody who seems to be working on the app...
ymDoug said:
So, out of the box, what the Android app does is:
* Poll every hour to catch up on changes you may have made via the dial-in interface, or the web site (you can adjust it to be as often as every 15 mins, or as infrequent as 'never')
* Poll a couple of minutes after you miss a call - to see if the caller left you a message
* Poll when one of YouMail's special TXT messages arrives (the kind that start with "New VM:....")
* Manually initiated
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Heh...finally an app is developing for YM I had posted here and even emailed a couple of devs and got nowhere. Even emailed YouMail and got the standard "not at this moment, there are no plans on supporting Android".

omario117 said:
I don't know if this is or isn't the info you're looking for, but this info was in the original post for somebody who seems to be working on the app...
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So I"m blind and dumb. Thanks
Now if it only pulled down the audio it would be awesome. I guess thats why things are work in progress.

kizer said:
So I"m blind and dumb. Thanks
Now if it only pulled down the audio it would be awesome. I guess thats why things are work in progress.
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Only if you're calling yourself that, I'm not calling you anything
If you did think I was, I apologize, I was simply trying to make the posting of my info seem credible, as opposed to "here's information but I'm not going to mention where I got it" or "look at the first post by such and such"...

I'd like to thank mustang_52 for getting back to me and helping figure out what was wrong. I believe the app is working correct for him now.
Just in case anyone is interested, there was a problem on one of the back-end servers where it wasn't creating the MP3 file that the app needs, so you were seeing "downloading" forever... we fixed it around noon today and everything seems to be AOK now.
There is a forum set up on the YouMail site that explains how the app checks for messages and the trade-offs we had to make since 'push' technology is effectively unavailable to us at present. (Unless of course we have some senior management from T-Mobile watching, and they want to contact me about making it available.........)
The forum is at: http://forums.youmail.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=8
Doug

Everything is working great since you fixed it. Thanks for such a great app.

Love this YouMail app... THANKS!!!

Share texts between phone and tablet

Anyone know of any apps (current or in development) that allows for text messages that come in to an android phone to be answered and responded to from a tablet?
I know theres similar functionality for answering from a computer, but this would be great over wifi or bluetooth.
(Also thinking out loud here, if the two are paired over bluetooth, would it be at all possible with some kind of development to use the tablet like a headset to answer or place calls from the phone?)
These are things that I dont expect people to say "Heres an .apk" but want to get these ideas out into the open to see if anyone has anything to contribute or point us in the right direction.

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Try using Google voice on both phone and tablet with the same account then you can get ye messages and text.

Thanks but...
1) Google voice isnt currently available for the Xoom.
2) I'd like something that doesnt require me to notify all my contacts of a number change and have them be confused about which is actually my cell phone number.

Google voice works fine through the browser

Yes you can. You can send texts from your phone on your tab using the free app Remote Web Desktop.
This app gives you your phone desktop on your tab, send texts, add files to your SD card, etc.

Gotta admit, that one is pretty great, i can see myself using it on my comp.
A little sluggish and slow on the tablet going through the browser though.
What im looking for is essentially the functionality of that on the phone side, but a dedicated app on the tablet, obviously optimized for the screen real estate and interface that will refresh on its own, have its own notifications on the tablet etc.
Basically an app that looks and acts like a dedicated sms client on the tablet, only its doing all the actual sending and receiving on the phone side and pulling it over wifi or bluetooth.
This is basically what HP has in store for the touchpad and pre3 so im not exactly expecting someone to just link to it and move along. I'm really hoping someone developing some kind of similar solution sees this and reaches out to the community.
Thanks for the suggestions and please keep them coming...always love seeing new apps.

WHY?
gbenj said:
Anyone know of any apps (current or in development) that allows for text messages that come in to an android phone to be answered and responded to from a tablet?
I know theres similar functionality for answering from a computer, but this would be great over wifi or bluetooth.
(Also thinking out loud here, if the two are paired over bluetooth, would it be at all possible with some kind of development to use the tablet like a headset to answer or place calls from the phone?)
These are things that I dont expect people to say "Heres an .apk" but want to get these ideas out into the open to see if anyone has anything to contribute or point us in the right direction.
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I am wondering why one would want to do this? just really curious as to your thought behind the question....

Kent_Davis said:
I am wondering why one would want to do this? just really curious as to your thought behind the question....
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I want this kind of app too... heres my reason. My phone sits on its dock once i get home in the bedroom and i tether the wifi to my tab. So i dont have it nearby but my nook always is
Sent from one of those missing Droids

Another reason is that its much more comfortable to text and type from the tablet. (Its amazing how tiny my Incredible feels after using the Xoom for a few days.)
Like the previous post says, if I can be sitting on the couch with the tablet, leave the phone plugged in in my room, and get notifications etc on the tablet that would be great.
Plus, if i'm gonna be using the tablet more and more around the house, it would be much easier to sit there with one device on my lap instead of constantly switching between the tablet to the phone when I get a text.
Think of it as a phone extender where the main phone functions are accessible on the tablet over WiFi or bluetooth, whatever is easier.

I just wanted to throw my +1 here. I feel silly juggling my phone and tablet. I'd love to be able to walk away from my office and only have to worry about grabbing one device.

Didn't find it sluggish, xoom tethered to my N1 on Tmo's fast network. If you find something else, please share, thanks!

There is definitely a need for this. I use the google voice app on my iPad for SMS more than on my N1. I also use the talkatone ios app for voip google voice calls as well. Not having a google voice app for Honeycomb is ridiculous.

Ditto I will be needing some sort of app like so. Reason- I dont own a cell phone but I wouldnt mind pay the $20 a month for the data service and being able to text using sms.

Basically he (and me too) is looking for something that acts like Motorola's Webtop App.

neonerz said:
I just wanted to throw my +1 here. I feel silly juggling my phone and tablet. I'd love to be able to walk away from my office and only have to worry about grabbing one device.
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This.
thefoss said:
Basically he (and me too) is looking for something that acts like Motorola's Webtop App.
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Exactly!

I concur. This is one thing I did like about the Galaxy Tab before I sold it for the Xoom...I could answer email and TXT from one device. When you're at home using your Xoom it does make a difference in lifestyle having to grab my phone every time it beeps for a TXT...lets face it most people don't talk as much over the phone as they used to.

Very much needed app. I'd be willing to pay $10 easy for it too.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA Premium App

I believe that this on the new HP Toucpad when its synced with WebOS phones. This would be awesome!
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I've been thinking about this alot over the past couple of days even to the point that I began to investigate and play around with the Android SDK to see what I might be able to do, which is not alot at the moment.
I thought of this app functioning as follows:
1) We currently have a bunch of applications that allow the user to view and respond to their text messages through an interface on the browser or computer application using an app on the phone that "broadcasts" the messaging features of the phone out over either WiFi or bluetooth. (For example, the ones mentioned earlier in this thread.)
2) We also have something called "Remote Notifier" that sends out a "ping" when a new message is received to a listening service on a computer which notifies the user on the desktop.
3) If the existing functionality of those two are combined, we have an application that can put together a list of the messages on the phone (primary location), send it out to a secondary location (in this case a tablet), while also notifying the secondary location (tablet) of a new message received.
The app on the phone also gives the secondary location the ability to respond and edit the message list on the phone.
4) The second piece of the equation we would need is an app for the tablet, preferably optimized for the screen size in a 5manner similar to the way Gmail and the native email client handle messaging, (with a list of messages on the left, and the conversation view on the right) that allows the user to browse their messages on the phone and reply within the app.
If the app on the tablet could "look" to the phone as the service provider instead of the network, I could even see notifications being created from within that app and displayed on the tablet just as if it was actually receiving the texts itself.
While I am technical enough to debug a little and troubleshoot alot, I don't have the programming background to create this from the ground up. Is there anyone out there that would be interested in working with me to build something like this?
I feel as though I have the Idea of how this will function pretty well planned out, and if there is someone who wants to do the legwork involved in the building/programming, I can definitely write and draw up use cases, user flows, and wire-frame designs for how both sides of the application would work in both the front and back end.
So, is there anyone out there interested in and capable of helping to put this together for the community? I really feel that if it is done well enough, it could take off and maybe even Google would take notice and build it in natively moving forward...If they're not already working on it.
Thoughts, questions, concerns? I would appreciate any and all feedback.
Thanks for reading....this has been a long post

if you really want to try without having to code anything try the appinventor.appinventor.googlelabs[dot]c o m/learn/setup/[/url]
ill try messing around with it later once im finished working on my woodshop project (im 14). But it you want to id try it out.

MMS - Reduced quality & size

Hi all,
Have found an issue with MMS. I can send them fine, and the person receiving them has no problems.
When I receive an MMS, though, it's greatly reduced in both size and quality.
I've tried saving the MMS image to open in the gallery app - in case the messaging app displayed it smaller for some reason - but it displayed the same.
The only settings I can find (I believe) are only related to sending not receiving, but none the less has been checked at 600k for maximum size.
My previous phone - One XL, same network/carrier - didn't have this issue at all.
It just looks as though the One compresses incoming images :/
Has anyone else experienced this?
HTC One
Android 4.1.2
Sense 5.0

Wow, I think we have found one of the last 5 MMS users in the world!
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Sounds like the person sending you the image has compressed it. Seems unlikely that your phone would compress incoming images

Haha, I still use it on a regular basis!
Not being compressed from sender tho - I work for a Telco, and have sent images from multiple handsets - all of which came through compressed.
From my phone, I've sent a photo to both myself and other handsets (iPhone & Galaxy S III). Comes through perfectly on them, comes through reduced on mine.
So it's definitely unique to the handset, and it's definitely compressing incoming images :/
Sent from my HTC_PN071 using Tapatalk 2

Why don't people use MMS anymore? I send MMS to my girlfriend throughout the day and she sends to me. Am I missing something?

Kilmar said:
Why don't people use MMS anymore? I send MMS to my girlfriend throughout the day and she sends to me. Am I missing something?
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People use apps like Whatapp and Facebook to send pictures to one another as its free to do so. MMS messages are usually not part of the included texts so are charged.

All my friends send MMS all the time. I think most plans in Canada have nation-wide SMS and MMS included though.

Use whatever works best for you and the people you communicate with.
However, SMS and MMS (from a data-transmission standpoint) are about the worst way you could possibly send text and pictures/media (in terms of speed and reliability). Apple was smart to invent iMessage and have it tied to peoples phone number. They were dumb not to open it up to every platform and there-by kill SMS once and for all. G+, FaceBook, and 100s of others are trying to get control of peoples SMS/MMS, but nobody other than Apple has been smart enough to converge people that still use it with the modern digital-data age.
I'm not saying you shouldn't still use it... I'm saying the fact that it is more convenient for you to still use it is a major failure of the software industry (HTC, Google, your carrier, Apple, or whoever you want to point the finger at.).
OP: Please let us know if you find a solution. I get an MMS every now and then, and it being compressed is bs... it should be upscaled like 1080p TVs do if anything.

Mcyates said:
People use apps like Whatapp and Facebook to send pictures to one another as its free to do so. MMS messages are usually not part of the included texts so are charged.
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Ah, that makes perfect sense. My girlfriend doesn't have a smartphone (she likes little phones for her little hands) and rarely uses FB, so we are relegated to MMS. I use Whatsapp with other friends and family. I'm not too worried about charges since Sprint has unlimited text and data.

mercury670 said:
Hi all,
Have found an issue with MMS. I can send them fine, and the person receiving them has no problems.
When I receive an MMS, though, it's greatly reduced in both size and quality.
I've tried saving the MMS image to open in the gallery app - in case the messaging app displayed it smaller for some reason - but it displayed the same.
The only settings I can find (I believe) are only related to sending not receiving, but none the less has been checked at 600k for maximum size.
My previous phone - One XL, same network/carrier - didn't have this issue at all.
It just looks as though the One compresses incoming images :/
Has anyone else experienced this?
HTC One
Android 4.1.2
Sense 5.0
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I got an MMS this morning from my iPhone 5-using friend on Verizon and it wasn't noticeably compressed.

rpmccormick said:
Use whatever works best for you and the people you communicate with.
However, SMS and MMS (from a data-transmission standpoint) are about the worst way you could possibly send text and pictures/media (in terms of speed and reliability). Apple was smart to invent iMessage and have it tied to peoples phone number. They were dumb not to open it up to every platform and there-by kill SMS once and for all. G+, FaceBook, and 100s of others are trying to get control of peoples SMS/MMS, but nobody other than Apple has been smart enough to converge people that still use it with the modern digital-data age.
I'm not saying you shouldn't still use it... I'm saying the fact that it is more convenient for you to still use it is a major failure of the software industry (HTC, Google, your carrier, Apple, or whoever you want to point the finger at.).
OP: Please let us know if you find a solution. I get an MMS every now and then, and it being compressed is bs... it should be upscaled like 1080p TVs do if anything.
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Nahhh man, LOTS of people still use MMS -- probably the majority of people with cell phones...... they are already conversing via sms.... so mms is what they use... for convenience sake.
And it has been fee for probably five years (with unlimited text and pics plans becoming more the norm)
I would be surprised if more than 2% avoid using mms, even though it is pretty lossy.

gruuvin said:
Nahhh man, LOTS of people still use MMS -- probably the majority of people with cell phones...... they are already conversing via sms.... so mms is what they use... for convenience sake.
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The problem is they are still using SMS. When Android was first invented, the first G1 phone had a GoogleTalk online bubble in the contacts/dialer. They were hoping people with Android phones would use GoogleTalk instead of SMS (as I always do), but it did not catch on. Apple on the other hand built iMessage right into the SMS app and forced their users to use it... too bad there is not an iMessage app for Android... we could all be free of the evils of SMS just like iPhone-to-iPhone users are.

js931 said:
Wow, I think we have found one of the last 5 MMS users in the world!
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Welcome to the outside world! You'll be shocked there's still millions of people using MMS... Specially like here in our country where you could send one for free

Just so you can see, these are screen shots. Same photo, same source. First image is as received on One XL, second is from the One.
Clearly obvious how much they're being reduced :/

Has no-one else honestly not noticed this?
It's practically a deal breaker

i have noticed this also...thought it was the sender. will have to play around with this myself.

**UPDATE**
Today received a call from Telstra about the tech enquiry I asked for.
They've done some in-house testing, and have confirmed it is a unique issue to the One, nothing to do with carriers.
I've lodged 2 separate support 'tickets' with HTC, and am currently in the middle of email trails trying to find a resolution.
Will report back with more info when available.
HTC One
4.1.2
Sense 5.0
Stock, Telstra AU

mercury670 said:
Has no-one else honestly not noticed this?
It's practically a deal breaker
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I just noticed this today. I am unable to send a mms picture larger than 50-80kb even though the size is multiple MB.
I checked all settings but can't figure out a way to use a larger image as mms.
Stock android 4.3
This is really annoying because i am sending images of text that aren't readable when reduced in quality. I would rather text than email.
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mercury670 said:
**UPDATE**
Today received a call from Telstra about the tech enquiry I asked for.
They've done some in-house testing, and have confirmed it is a unique issue to the One, nothing to do with carriers.
I've lodged 2 separate support 'tickets' with HTC, and am currently in the middle of email trails trying to find a resolution.
Will report back with more info when available.
HTC One
4.1.2
Sense 5.0
Stock, Telstra AU
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Any updates?

Alcoholic said:
I would rather text than email.
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SMS, MMS, and Fax-Machines are the worst data-transmission technologies that we are forced to cling on to. I long for the day when all 3 are extinct.

i dont know if my problem is the same but its really annoying when i can't send pictures taken from my phone camera. i can send pictures from the internet and pictures that arent very high quality taken with my camera but with a lot of the pictures i take that have a lot of detail and very focused they always fail when their sending. i have not changed any settings for MMS

Group / Bulk texting

Hey, so I'm an owner of an Samsung galaxy Nexus, Nexus 5 and an N6.
With my galaxy nexus I'm able to send texts, in bulk to hundreds of different people at once from one app. Then send texts through the stock app without my bulk text showing up there.
When i try on the n5/6 the texts i sent keep showing up in the stock app, making the hundreds of business associates appear in front of my regular texts.
Also there's a restriction of how many texts I can send through the app now, which is annoying and ruins my work. Yet owning both n6 and n5, I seem to just use the GN despite it being sluggish, it does what i need it to.
I've seen the Liquid fluid rom for the N6 can solve my 2nd question, but the DL link is dead and google just sends me to deadends.
tl;dr
How do I stop the stock sms app from showing texts from my group sms app?
How do I remove the restriction of sms sent?
The solution can be for either the N5 or N6, I'd just like to be able to use either of them for what I need.

OsiBasi said:
Hey, so I'm an owner of an Samsung galaxy Nexus, Nexus 5 and an N6.
With my galaxy nexus I'm able to send texts, in bulk to hundreds of different people at once from one app. Then send texts through the stock app without my bulk text showing up there.
When i try on the n5/6 the texts i sent keep showing up in the stock app, making the hundreds of business associates appear in front of my regular texts.
Also there's a restriction of how many texts I can send through the app now, which is annoying and ruins my work. Yet owning both n6 and n5, I seem to just use the GN despite it being sluggish, it does what i need it to.
I've seen the Liquid fluid rom for the N6 can solve my 2nd question, but the DL link is dead and google just sends me to deadends.
tl;dr
How do I stop the stock sms app from showing texts from my group sms app?
How do I remove the restriction of sms sent?
The solution can be for either the N5 or N6, I'd just like to be able to use either of them for what I need.
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You cant. It all uses one system. You also cant remove the limit it is set there by google to prevent spamming. While some roms claim to bypass it the carriers also block part of them if they detect something like that. Which sets off all types of alarms.

yes android 4.2 can
zelendel said:
You cant. It all uses one system. You also cant remove the limit it is set there by google to prevent spamming. While some roms claim to bypass it the carriers also block part of them if they detect something like that. Which sets off all types of alarms.
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well, i own said 3 (!) nexus phones. i am handicapped depending on help from pca's -personal care assistants. if one is sick i am f-d and need someone fast. n text/sms is WAY faster than email. so i have a google contacts group 'pca' w 200+ pca's. Since i'm CLEARLY not spamming, ive rooted all 3 phones n with sqllite editor manually removed stupid smslimit n all 3 so all phones so they all send sms to my 200+ pca's when i need help. BUT only said sluggish phone GN runs old android4.2 where i am not forced to get BACK 200+ sms... a) can i install android 4.2 or older on my n5 or n6? or even n7 ipad? b) how off this annoying 'auto-sms-back' in newer than android 4.2? c) whats tthe fastest phone capable of running a4.2 or older (flashing rom no prob)? sony z3? Thanks for any ideas

A: No.
B: That answer has already been given. See the post above yours.
C: Can't answer that. Other people will have to chime in.

Group texts

So I have a rooted Samsung Galaxy Note 8 (Snapdragon N950U). Over the previous 24 hours, first, my daughter and then I received a group text from an unknown person. It was noone from our contact lists and noone we know. I use chomp sms as my default messaging app. I am extremely annoyed and wish for all of these textx to stop. I cant ask the group message originator to remove me from the list because I dont know who sent it. Also of the 10 to 15 numbers on the list that he/she also sent it to, I do not know anyone on the list.
I need some advice/help. With this high end phone of mine and all of its power, you would think there would be some way to just simply remove myself from the list. In my research on this topic, the only app I found that might have a chance of stopping this is called GroupXit but I dont even know if it would really work or is still valid. The only info I can find concerning the app is that its from 2014. (kinda old)
Since I have root access, isnt there something that I can do to stop it? Some type of app for rooted phones or something?

TRexombo said:
So I have a rooted Samsung Galaxy Note 8 (Snapdragon N950U). Over the previous 24 hours, first, my daughter and then I received a group text from an unknown person. It was noone from our contact lists and noone we know. I use chomp sms as my default messaging app. I am extremely annoyed and wish for all of these textx to stop. I cant ask the group message originator to remove me from the list because I dont know who sent it. Also of the 10 to 15 numbers on the list that he/she also sent it to, I do not know anyone on the list.
I need some advice/help. With this high end phone of mine and all of its power, you would think there would be some way to just simply remove myself from the list. In my research on this topic, the only app I found that might have a chance of stopping this is called GroupXit but I dont even know if it would really work or is still valid. The only info I can find concerning the app is that its from 2014. (kinda old)
Since I have root access, isnt there something that I can do to stop it? Some type of app for rooted phones or something?
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Well its not as simple as one might think.
Heres the problem.
The current infrastructure allows this and call spoofing to happen because out going calls and texts are not verified and filtered properly and said calls and text are forwarded to the given address. Like a letter. It would be like trying to stop someone from writing you a letter. There isnt a mechanism the verifies he registerd number of the phone to the ID being given over the air to the recipient. Said mechanism would make call spoofing much much harder and could be modified to remove ones-self from a group chat.
You do have a few options.
1. An app that blocks texts
2. Have your carrier block them
3. Look at who their carrier is and request a block (not sure if possible but worth a shot).
4. Ask them. I know you dont want to contact them but aslong as you dont give any information, click a link, or become hostile toward them, you should be fine. To be safe. Somewhere in your messaging setting, there should be an option to auto download attachment. Id turn that off before requesting your removal.
****HEADS UP****
some carriers do charge monthly to block someone.
Id look that info up or ask before jumping straight to that option.

Thank you Shadow Assassin. I noticed another app called Textra. It says it will specifically block the group texts of your choice. May be worth a shot.
I'm kind of hesitant to contact the originator of this group text, 1. Because I can't tell which number it comes from. (When I look at the contact details it gives me a list of 10 - 15 numbers) and 2. Because of the content of the text. Both were the same on my phone and my daughter's phone. It said : "Hey mister, I'm just gonna put this out there, I'm chubby, lonely and horny." Then it got more detailed.

TRexombo said:
Thank you Shadow Assassin. I noticed another app called Textra. It says it will specifically block the group texts of your choice. May be worth a shot.
I'm kind of hesitant to contact the originator of this group text, 1. Because I can't tell which number it comes from. (When I look at the contact details it gives me a list of 10 - 15 numbers) and 2. Because of the content of the text. Both were the same on my phone and my daughter's phone. It said : "Hey mister, I'm just gonna put this out there, I'm chubby, lonely and horny." Then it got more detailed.
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Wow, ok. Thats concerning knowing the little chance of texting both yall randomly. So it doesnt seem so random (could be wrong). You can see the actually sender by long pressing on the message and click View Message Details. You can block numbers on the galaxy 8 series. Messages/Settings/Block Messages
Now those messages wont show up in the main messages but they are saved in the blocked folder in the same place I directed you to block them.
****Do Note****
Due to the way sms/mms works, your phone will still receive the messages no matter what apl you use. They just block them from visibility. Only a carrier block stops them from reaching your devices
I can say, if it were me. I would atleast file a police report if it came from the same area code especially sonce both you and your daughter got it aswell. But the chances of randomly texting both of yall are slim.

Ok thank you for your advice. There has been no further activity from that group text and no others have been sent. I guess I'm just going to wait for now but if anything else happens I may be forced to take action.