Froyo turns of 3G when on Wifi - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

As the title says, when my Nexus One is connected to a Wifi network it turns off 3G. Which makes since to save battery. I'm in Japan, and use Softbank as my carrier. Softbank does not use 2G for voice, but only 3G for voice and HSPA(+) for data.
So I am unable to receive voice calls while on Wifi...I thought about using Google Voice as a workaround but it still does not support re-routing non-U.S. phone numbers.
Any ideas? I hope custom ROMS such as Cyanogenmod fix this.
Thanks,
Brandon

Lee_Machine said:
As the title says, when my Nexus One is connected to a Wifi network it turns off 3G. Which makes since to save battery. I'm in Japan, and use Softbank as my carrier. Softbank does not use 2G for voice, but only 3G for voice and HSPA(+) for data.
So I am unable to receive voice calls while on Wifi...I thought about using Google Voice as a workaround but it still does not support re-routing non-U.S. phone numbers.
Any ideas? I hope custom ROMS such as Cyanogenmod fix this.
Thanks,
Brandon
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WOW that stinks. i think that the best thing todo is wait for the source being released and than make a request.

I get 3g when I'm on wifi...

Change your phone settings to WCDMA only.
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it doesnt turn 3g off, it just removes the 3g icon from next to your signal meter. but you still have hsdpa connection if you go into settings and check. is this what you mean?

uhhh that doesnt sound right... you should still have your 3g voice connection even on wifi...

Yes, the 3G icon goes away when connected to WiFi.
I just tried it again, and it worked. I don't know why it didnt the other times I tried to call from it, and tried calling to the phone,
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No data while using phone???

dumb question.... but i was under the impression you could make a phone call and access the internet at the same time. Is this not true?
I was on the phone and tried to access the internet and was told NO. i am on a 3G connection.
Well ofcourse I do not know exactly what happened with you, but some providers have 'buggy' setups that can cause this. Most of those providers are working hard fixing that problem right now.
You can turn 3G off somewhere, I know I've seen it, but now I can't find it. Change the type of connection from UMTS to GPRS/GSM, there's a setting _somewhere_. If you do that, you will only get GPRS connectivity. Try calling and getting data at the same time then, if it works, your provider is not really ready for 3G yet.
Interesting. I am with ATT and 3G seems to be full power in all locations I am using it in.
I cant find where / how to turn 3G off and only use GPRS.
I can tell you that I have tested 3G with internet sharing to my notebook over bluetooth. I was able to talk with a BT headset, and access the internet with the laptop thru the phone, all at the same time. When connected the phone shows "H" or "3G". This is with a Kaiser but I would expect the same from a Tilt. AT&T in Southern Calif. I installed "Schen's 10 button comm manager" and with it's 3G button I can hold off 3G, then the display shows "E" and no simul connections are possible.
You can only use voice and data with HSDPA. GPRS/Edge does not allow this, they use the same band for data as the voice band. If you see the "H" icon they you are picking up the extra data bands needed for this to work. I have tested this will streaming live tv to my phone from my media center via webguide. Even with the "3G" icon i was not able to stream video and talk at the same time, the video would pause while i was on the phone then resume connection when i hung up or the "H" icon appeared.
I can confirm that I'm seeing this bug. There is no 3g towers in my area. I'll be showing the edge icon and be talking and when i try to load a web page, Opera will complain that a data connection does not exist.
mswanson said:
I can confirm that I'm seeing this bug. There is no 3g towers in my area.
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It's not a bug... GPRS/Edge is not capable of simultaneous voice/data. You will not be able to do both until 3G is available in your area (though this doesn't explain the OP's issue).

Missed Calls when connected to GPRS Internet

Hello all,
Have any of you guys come across this problem with your X1...I was connected to the internet via GPRS earlier this afternoon doing a little browsing and have now received 3 missed call notifications which were made during my browsing.
Does the phone not receive calls when connected to GPRS...very annoying.
I'm using the Touch X 10.1 rom by Smaberg but don't think that is the problem...any ideas!!!
some phone operators with older hardware in their end don't support call and gprs at the same time
not really a phone thing
Thanks for the reply...I'm on the Orange network so I thought they would have been up to speed with technology incorporating call and data at the same time...
Same issue here.
I'm pretty sure that GPRS and voice calls can't work at the same time because of the 2G network, but thought at least the voice call would interrupt the data session.
WelshBluebird said:
Same issue here.
I'm pretty sure that GPRS and voice calls can't work at the same time because of the 2G network, but thought at least the voice call would interrupt the data session.
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That's my understanding. 3 & 3.5G allows voice and data at the same time.
but on 2G it's either GPRS or voice... that used to drive me crazy with my Prophet too
Ah, that makes sense...I usually turn off the 3G to extend battery life so that would be the reason I missed calls...may turn it back to 3G if I'm doing a session of browsing in future...
Cheers
even with my 2g himalaya I didn't have any problems with both calling and gprs
it was why gprs was interduced to replace the slower and older gsm dataconnection
which worked the same way as an analog modem which blocked of cause
of cause only class A gprs devices support that
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Packet_Radio_Service#Hardware
but all these phones today are that
problem is that class A is required in both the phone and the operators network hardware
Try with RADIO ROM 1.16.
Problem with this rom is apparently solved.

Inabuilty for Simultaneous Voice and Data

Why is the Nexus One unable to do Simultaneous Voice and Data.
I have searched hi and low.
And yes i am in a 3G area and all that jazz.
donniesd said:
Why is the Nexus One unable to do Simultaneous Voice and Data.
I have searched hi and low.
And yes i am in a 3G area and all that jazz.
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It is.........
hah2110 said:
It is.........
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Well by all means please tell me how!
And dont dear say wifi!!!
donniesd said:
Well by all means please tell me how!
And dont dear say wifi!!!
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What do you mean how? If you are on 3G... it just works.
hah2110 said:
What do you mean how? If you are on 3G... it just works.
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I am in 3G.
I have no problems when putting my sim in my tp2. And talking while surfing.
And i am not the only one. No one has givein a reason as to why.
Uh..unless you changed you radio settings to "WCDMA only" you should be able to talk and surf.
It should work. I do it all the time, but it is network dependent.
In case it works on your TP2 i suggest you check your settings.
Hey big guy are you using a t-mobile nexus one on AT&T? Or AT&T N1 on T-mobile? That used to send all my calls to voicemail while I was on the intarwebs
JCopernicus said:
Uh..unless you changed you radio settings to "WCDMA only" you should be able to talk and surf.
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Incorrect. "WCDMA only" is still UMTS/HSPA (3G/3.5G in consumer speak), therefore you still get voice/data at once. I can only conclude that you're under the assumption that UMTS/GSM work the same way EVDO/CDMA does. On an EVDO network, all data goes through the EVDO network, while voice stays on 1xCDMA, because EVDO is an addon to 1xCDMA.
UMTS and GSM are two completely incompatible technologies that only share GSM backend features and a SIM card. The circuits in the phone are separate, the antennas on the towers are separate. You're either completely on UMTS for voice and data (inc. both at the same time) or you're completely on GSM (for voice or data but not both at once. In fact, if you're locked on to a strong UMTS signal, the parts of your phone that handle GSM shut down for power conservation and only wake up when your signal drops to check to see if you'll get a superior signal over GSM. It will do this periodically, but won't stay active for long unless your UMTS is so bad that you won't be able to hold a call. THEN your phone powers up and maintains the GSM radio, while putting the UMTS radio on standby, only powering it up momentarily to look for a better signal.
The only time you have GSM and WCDMA/UMTS powered on at the same time is during hand-offs from one network to the other. That's why staying in areas where you bounce between the two kills your battery so quickly, the radio is drawing roughly twice as much juice as it normally does, plus it's computing which one will do the better job for the moment. Even then, at that time, the phone and its OS will be using only one of the networks at a time, and if it's UMTS, you'll be able to hold a call and surf the web.
rx7freak said:
Hey big guy are you using a t-mobile nexus one on AT&T? Or AT&T N1 on T-mobile? That used to send all my calls to voicemail while I was on the intarwebs
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TMO on TMO.
Attached are my settings.
I have this on every rom or radio i try.
Hey, sort of same thing just happened to me
in my case using GSM Auto (prl) or WCDMA prefered I can connect to HSDPA but GSM is in emergency calls only, weird.
but I can do both on GSM only (GPRS/EDGE)
Re-flashed to official release of 2.1 same thing.
i use voice and data on my nexus at the sme time every day. it just works. as long as you have a 3G symbol next to your reception bars, then it works.
i dont know what you could have done to break this. can you demonstrate to us what you are doing that is not "working"?
RogerPodacter said:
i use voice and data on my nexus at the sme time every day. it just works. as long as you have a 3G symbol next to your reception bars, then it works.
i dont know what you could have done to break this. can you demonstrate to us what you are doing that is not "working"?
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I am connected to 3G network. Call comes in. I can not browse on the internet. While i am on the call i go check settings and i have droped to GPRS. As soon as i hang up i go back to 3G (HSDPA)
Have you ever changed your build.prop file at all in the past? If so that's the problem. Change to hsxpa=2 to fix it.
If not then I have no clue.
RogerPodacter said:
Have you ever changed your build.prop file at all in the past? If so that's the problem. Change to hsxpa=2 to fix it.
If not then I have no clue.
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It is.
I have no problem on my TP2.
I use it often too but today I was unable to it. Hopefully its because my area is being updated to hsdpa+
i think i have the same problem. 3G drops during voice call, doesn't connect during the call. reconnects after the call ends.
stock nexus one tmobile FRG83D
When you have bad reception, that's what happens. Normal and expected. During the call it won't re-negotiate 3G, only when the call ends.
Jack_R1 said:
When you have bad reception, that's what happens. Normal and expected. During the call it won't re-negotiate 3G, only when the call ends.
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Yeah, that is normal and it really sucks when you're on a long call. Once you lose 3G signal it's gone for good. I don't know if it's a network problem, or the phone, but it should be fixed.

Radio switch

Has anyone out thought of a switch for root users on 4g phones to disable 3g so you don't have 2 wireless radios for 3g and 4g running at the same time? If so, can someone name the app, or tell me where I can find the info on it?
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I think if you disable the 3g radio you would have no voice or text. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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you're right. 4g is only for data.
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I'm not sure this is correct. On the Thunderbolt, you can switch it to LTE only, and it remains able to make calls and send/receive texts. Although perhaps that doesn't disable the 3G radio.
Radio Switch
Only reason this even came to my attention is because I had heard rumors about the Sprint users being able to disable their 3g radio and still receive texts and voicemails... So, I figured I would ask about it. I mean with dumbphones that weren't 3g how did those receive those functions without a 3g radio?
voice/text messages are on 1x while internet is on 3g/4g
ninjagonepostal said:
Only reason this even came to my attention is because I had heard rumors about the Sprint users being able to disable their 3g radio and still receive texts and voicemails... So, I figured I would ask about it. I mean with dumbphones that weren't 3g how did those receive those functions without a 3g radio?
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Issue I see, is sometimes I'll lose 4g around here (GR area too), and if 3g was off, I wouldn't have data at all.
Killz86 said:
voice/text messages are on 1x while internet is on 3g/4g
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Than why when I'm on 3g, in a non 4g zone, when I go to make a call, the phone disables 3g?
Radio Switch
@sheatyj - I would have use for this though because I travel the country for work... Most places I go are all 4g (or at least Verizon claims them to be) so if I can disable my 3g radio, I can make my phone last a little longer... Also It will help with me having issues with my phone jumping back into 3g when I just had 3 bars of 4g.
heard of a toggle on thunderbolt a widget
How about switch to turn off all but wifi?
A nice feature of my Blackberry was the ability to turn OFF the telephone and leave the WIFI turned ON. This was great for non-coverage areas and when I traveled internationally. Can this be done on the Bionic? tnx
pitcoken said:
A nice feature of my Blackberry was the ability to turn OFF the telephone and leave the WIFI turned ON. This was great for non-coverage areas and when I traveled internationally. Can this be done on the Bionic? tnx
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Just enable Airplane Mode. That will turn everything off.
Once everything is off, just re-enable WiFi and/or Bluetooth if you want to use just that.

[Q] Verizon Network Extender Issues

Anyone else with a Nexus 6 on Verizon using a network extender? It works fine for voice. However, I cannot get a data connection through the extender. I assume its an APN issue. All other Verizon phones are getting data fine through the extender.
Ideas?
Thanks!
I don't think mine is connecting at all to the extender at work. There is no icon change.
It works for voice. I get the beeping before a call. But it is not utilizing the extender for data. Its killing me because I'm in a fringe area for coverage and its killing my battery.
I'm running cm12 and whenever I connect to a network extender I loose LTE after I connect back to the network directly. I have to backup, flash stock ROM, let the phone activate then restore my twrp backup. Major PITA...
Sorry for resurrecting this thread, but has anyone found any resolutions to this issue?
I'm right at the edge of 3 towers, without my extender, I can barely text... Don't get me started on MMS... I will often miss calls also.
According to the Network Signal Info app, I'm always connected to the extender, but I get very weak signal. I rarely get 3G, if I do, it's even more rare for me to get data despite it showing 3G.
Usually it's 1x that eventually connects where I get data.
Sure, I can use WiFi, but text and especially MMS are issues. Who knows if I'm missing calls also...
Hopefully the Verizon firmware/radio files will work better when Verizon eventually releases it?
Try setting your phone to 3g instead of lte. Should jump on the extender for data. On mine it won't switch automatically.
goinflyn said:
Try setting your phone to 3g instead of lte. Should jump on the extender for data. On mine it won't switch automatically.
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I did try that a few times, I haven't went too in depth with that. But if I recall correctly, changing that setting just left a "!" in the signal bars, no data. How's your signal strength on the extender?
It's half way up the triangle. Orange on the signal strength under battery. But it works.
goinflyn said:
Try setting your phone to 3g instead of lte. Should jump on the extender for data. On mine it won't switch automatically.
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That doesn't work for me. 3G is HSPA on the N6, not EvDo like the extender requires. My workaround is connecting at home via wifi, then switching data to 1X. That solves calling, data, and SMS/MMS issues.
From what I've read in other posts regarding Verizon extenders, they are only for basic text and calls, NOT Data. Call Verizon support to confirm if you want a definite answer though.
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Not true. It does data fine at both 1x and EvDo 3g. As I said, problem is, the N6 doesn't appear to work with 3g EvDo data.
greekstile said:
Not true. It does data fine at both 1x and EvDo 3g. As I said, problem is, the N6 doesn't appear to work with 3g EvDo data.
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Correct. I've had my extender since 2011. Without data, MMS as well as certain other Verizon features would not function.
EV-DO working now!
greekstile said:
Not true. It does data fine at both 1x and EvDo 3g. As I said, problem is, the N6 doesn't appear to work with 3g EvDo data.
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I just flashed the Android 5.1 radio on my 5.0.2 ROM running Chroma.
I can confirm that EV-DO Rev. A works now on the Verizon Network Extender.
When I have the network mode set to Global or LTE it keeps falling off 3G. I've set the network mode to 3G and it has stuck for a solid 30 minutes now.
Hopefully the stock 5.1 ROM will fix the 3G issue in LTE or Global modes, so it doesn't try to connect to the weak outside signals. But at least we get EV-DO now instead of just 1x!
kvnhmmd said:
I just flashed the Android 5.1 radio on my 5.0.2 ROM running Chroma.
I can confirm that EV-DO Rev. A works now on the Verizon Network Extender.
When I have the network mode set to Global or LTE it keeps falling off 3G. I've set the network mode to 3G and it has stuck for a solid 30 minutes now.
Hopefully the stock 5.1 ROM will fix the 3G issue in LTE or Global modes, so it doesn't try to connect to the weak outside signals. But at least we get EV-DO now instead of just 1x!
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So are you on a VZW device?
My device says call cannot be completed when I #48 from my Google N6
three west said:
So are you on a VZW device?
My device says call cannot be completed when I #48 from my Google N6
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Bought my N6 from Motorola around February.
Dialing #48 tells me I'm under network extender coverage.
kvnhmmd said:
Bought my N6 from Motorola around February.
Dialing #48 tells me I'm under network extender coverage.
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hmm, thanks, no 3G option in my preferred network types on the stock rom.
I wonder if the network extenders actually validate the IMEI and that's why its not working. It worked on my old XT926.
I also have been fighting with this since getting my Nexus 6 last week...they say dial *48 and it will tell you if you are under extender coverage...which I am, yet a tier 4 tech tries to call me and it goes direct to vm.
I have changed units...still same....frustrated as heck.
I'm confused. If you have a network extender, you have Wi-Fi within the same range as the network extender. Why would you want to use 3G for data instead of Wi-Fi? Even the slowest Wi-Fi would be better than 3G data.
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I'm confused. If you have a network extender, you have Wi-Fi within the same range as the network extender. Why would you want to use 3G for data instead of Wi-Fi? Even the slowest Wi-Fi would be better than 3G data.
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In my case it's a restricted work wifi
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