i just received my G1, well 1.6 was installed, but: No WLAN, No SD, No Bluetooth and no File-Transfer with Win7 x64. So i'm thinking of a flash, but how?
I wanted to get diagnostics mode, but what is the capture-key?
any other possibilities to rescue this device? (I think, the SD-Card driver was somehow deleted. Tried a software-Wipe, but it didn't help.
I hope someone can help me.
Thx in advance.
Well thats sorta like asking to get into a box sealed off with ducktape using the mailbox=p. You are going to need an sdcard so you can root it. Find any microsdcard and load up rc29, root it, then flash some custom firmware on top. If you don't have an sdcard, then you can't set up root therefore no new roms. The only thing that would work without an sdcard is ADB, but you need root to do something meaningful like pushing an app, etc..
I got similar problem.. My SD card slot seems to be dead. Android and recovery as well, doesn't see any SD card slot so the SD card can't be mounted. And yes, I've already tried with another card. No luck.
So there's my question that OP already asked: Is there any way to flash update.zip without sdcard?
Short answer: No
Long answer: you can change specific parts of a rom without an sdcard (kernel, apps), but not an entire rom or update.zip.
That's what I thought... Unfortunately. So I guess it's time to buy a Sapphire.
i have a program for windows called android commander. it has the option to flash an update. i dont know if this will help but it might. i found it on XDA somewhere. i just dont remember where.
edit: it also has some other really cool features, like push and pull and copy. great if you want to push an apk to the system/app folder
edit here is the link for download of the of the version that works for me http://androidcommander.cyf.pl/?file_id=1
ok, gonna try that android-commander.
If even a hard-reset doesn't bring up the 3 issues, i think, these are Hardware-Errors. (it COULD also be, that the "drivers" from these parts have been removed/deleted from the rom by the previous owner, but a hard-reset WOULD restore the missing "drivers" or am i wrong? (i have not much knowledge about Linux, i'm more a Windows-Freak.)
I mean is it possible to "remove" parts of the "drivers" from the ROM and the Flash/EEPROM that even after restore the part would still be missing?
Until it's rooted you can't make major firmware/bootloader modifications just by sticking a usb cable into it.
sturmeh said:
Until it's rooted you can't make major firmware/bootloader modifications just by sticking a usb cable into it.
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you mean "unless it's rooted", 'cause i think, it's not rooted (how to find out, if it is?)
satani said:
you mean "unless it's rooted", 'cause i think, it's not rooted (how to find out, if it is?)
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Turn the phone off, hold down the CAMERA button read off the top four lines.
That will tell you if it is using a custom spl.
Alternatively you could go in the rom and type su in the terminal, that would also show if it's rooted.
the booloader info sais:
DREA110 PVT 32B
HBOOT-0.96.0000
CPLD-4
RADIO-2.22.19.261
Sep 2 2000
i tried around with the Android-Commander as said before, i also connected the phone but I was not able to copy ANY data to the phone or create any folder anywhere (so not even a custom ringtone or wallpaper), for rooting is a SD-card required, which is not useable due to (maybe) hardware defect, so i ended up the following:
I agreed with the seller to reship the G1 and he refunds my money.
From that short time playing with G1 and Android, i say as conclusion:
Well, the touchscreen works far better than any Windows-Phone, but the Compatibility with Windows is nearly completely missing - and so some for me required aspects of that phone. So i'll just buy another Windows-Device. (i's easier to flash, spl or unlock and you have better and easier possibilites or modifying/customizing your phone.
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well if you would have recieved a working phone you might have a different opinion of android. i have used windows mobile as well as blackberry and simbian too. all of them have their good points but i found android to be the easiest to use and to customize(as long as the device works). but good luck
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well if you would have recieved a working phone you might have a different opinion of android. i have used windows mobile as well as blackberry and simbian too. all of them have their good points but i found android to be the easiest to use and to customize(as long as the device works). but good luck
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that might be true, but pay more than 150 for a phone, I only use as secondary phone for a few internet/data-activities is, considered the fact, that in 6 weeks, I'm unemployed again, a bit much to ask for, either a complete new phone or a cheap (ie less than 150 bucks) phone, that has wlan, 3g and a hardware-keyboard - rest is irrelevant - that is being used as secondary phone.
Sure, if the G1 would have been fully working, it would have been a nice device (not a replacement to my Xperia, of course, as the G1 has a minus in resolution compared to WVGA), but so is only to note: if you want a cheap Android-Phone, wait another 3-6 months, there are a lot of them coming out and so the elder ones (magic and g1) should go down in price a bit.
Sometimes, prices on ebay drop around 50 bucks within 3 months - checked on that.
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I've got a Wing from T-Mobile and I was checkin' on HTC's site... I dont' see any RUU files for that particular phone... T-Mobiles site had an RUU for me but it requires an activesync connection,
Now I've gone and proper bricked the (insert bad word here) so it won't even make an activesync connection anymore,
I was tryin' to put a lite version of one of the touch IT releases on there, all i've got now is a solid white screen. Phone will make noise when it's slid open; and the screen has an auto timer dim, but no display....
The RUU I got off t-mobiles site runs off an exe (do they usually?) Problem with it is that it requires an activesync connection which the phone can't make at the momment because of it's current state...
Is there an alternative to activesync that would help me out in this case? I know when I effed up a Linksys router I was able to tftp the firmware, not sure if there is anything like that I can do in this case. It only happened this morning though and the phones not active anyway so I'm going to continue looking (It's awaiting activation but it's now the weekend so I've got at least 2 days to work on it anyway.)
You may notice; I'm entirely new to this however I did look into it enough to ensure that I had an RUU to begin with before I tried any of this... Also, I have a second wing that's still set the way it was @ stock... Would that help in any sense?
Another question I had is what exactly is a lite version; from my understanding it was WM6 w/o the bloat... I'm begining to wonder if it's an OS with no tools not even a phone tool (I wouldn't think so but maybe I misunderstood.)
Thanks for any and all help or even suggestions to resolving my first brick
Edit: I'm begining to think my option is to try to submit it under warranty but I'm sure they can look at whats currently on the phone and I've got a hunch that right there will get me an outta warranty fee...
Edit2: I may have wound up able to answer my own question, (I'm at work atm and don't have access to test anything till 9pm tonight so I thought I'd post incase I was overlooking something, or incase I was able to find something to help others.)
I read;
JDawgZX11D said:
"If you had the same problems as I started with, and that it will not boot past the T Mobile screen, here is what you do.
RUU_Atlas_TMO_US_4[1].10.531.3_4.1.13.37_02.83.90_Ship
Download the orignial T Mobile rom, it is on this website about 300 times (I guess I was not the only one). I am sure you have winrar, open up this file in winrar. There are 8 files inside of it. The one you are most concerned with is \RUU_signed.nbh this is the original operating system. Get yourself at a minimum a 128mb micro sd card. Format it to FAT32 and copy the before .nbh file to the root directory. Rename the file to Heraimg.nbh That way if you start with a brick, you can end up with a shining penny! So when it is bricked, you do a hard reset. Hold the camera button and the voice record button, then push the stylus in the reset button. as long as you pushed in the micro sd card in the slot, it will reload. When it asks you to push this button it, they mean the volume down button. After about 15 minutes, your brick is no longer bricked. It will do it's thing and then soft reset on its own. You are back to factory default, YEA!!! Remove the Micro SD card out at this point."
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I will try this later, thank you.
Fixed it
What I didn't realize is that you can still install an RUU via USB w/o activesync through the phones bootloader and the EXE from the comp.
THanks for the help anyway
Hey everyone. I have had my Tytn2 for about 6 months now and am generally displeased with the speed of its operation. As it is my first Windows Mobile phone(v6.1) I hoped that it could supersede my older non smartphones but i am now currently doubting my investment. The idea of system optimisation and sub standard/non existant drivers has recentely come to my attention by surfing the internet trying to find the reasoning behind its sluggish operation. As i am not up to date with many technical terms used on this website and the reasonings behind the slowness of it i am making my post fairly general. I have reaslised though that there are things out there that can boost its speed and operation and make it an overall better phone.
If anyone has some favourite, worthwhile or must have tweaks i can do to my phone it would be much appreciated if you could fill me in, send me a link or generally point me in the right direction.
Cheers for your help in advance and thanks to the people out there who are working on these such things
Put a ROM on it that isn't loaded down with ATT bloatware, and HTC's slowness. You'll need to install a HardSPL on your device, SuperCID unlock your device, flash a radio, and choose a ROM to install on your device.
Flashing Your First ROM
Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocking Thread
HardSPL Thread
The Ultimate Radio Thread
Kaiser ROM Development Forum
thankyou for your post. Excuse my ignnorance but what does a ROM actually do to the phone? I have no issues with doing so, i just really dont undertand what it does/the reasoning behind it. And also a radio? i have searched threads but there is so much about installing them etc but not many explinations on their workings. cheers k-semler
ok.. i have been looking around some more and found some more answers to my questions...so it basically boosts the performance? so once this is done what can i load onto my phone to make this all worthwhile?And also once this is done does is load as per normal, just faster? Or does the phone have a whole new layout etc. that the creator made?
cheers
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thankyou for your post. Excuse my ignnorance but what does a ROM actually do to the phone? I have no issues with doing so, i just really dont undertand what it does/the reasoning behind it. And also a radio? i have searched threads but there is so much about installing them etc but not many explinations on their workings. cheers k-semler
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The ROM is equivilant to the OS on a desktop computer, the radio allows communication via cellular, wi-fi, and GPS communications. The HardSPL is equivilant to the MBR on a desktop computer, and the Super CID is equivilant to the BIOS on a computer. (A locked CID will only allow you to install signed ROM's from either your telephone service provider, or HTC, while after a SuperCID unlock, you will be able to flash any ROM you so desire.)
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ok.. i have been looking around some more and found some more answers to my questions...so it basically boosts the performance? so once this is done what can i load onto my phone to make this all worthwhile?And also once this is done does is load as per normal, just faster? Or does the phone have a whole new layout etc. that the creator made?
cheers
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The easiest way to describe it is if you went and bought a name brand computer, when you initially set up the OS, (or use the recovery discs that came with the computer), it will install the OS along with a ton of bloatware, half-functional trial ware, and other unwanted software. However, if you were to boot off of a Windows retail disc, you would have the same operating system, but without all the unnecessary software that the retailer included as an added "bonus". So yes, the computer will operate faster due to not being loaded down by unnessecary software.
Yes, once a new ROM is flashed to your phone, and it was a successful flash, it will boot up as normal, and go through the customization process. After the customization process, it will soft-reset the device, and your phone will boot as normal. It will be as fresh as it would be had it come out of the box that way. Yes, this means that you will lose your contacts list, emails, and everything else you have stored on the phone's main memory. (just like you would lose everything on your HDD if you wiped out your OS and installed it again).
To back up your contacts, simply copy the file PIM.VOL from the root of your device to a microSD card, or your desktop. After you have flashed the phone, rename the new PIM.VOL on the root of the device to PIM.OLD, and copy over your archived PIM.VOL to your phone. Soft reset your device, and boot it up like normal. After the phone restarts, verify you have your contacts list restored, and then delete the file PIM.OLD from your device. The same goes for any other data you may wish to preserve. Copy it off to an SD card, or your desktop computer. After you have flashed your phone, simply copy back all data you have archived. You will obviously need to re-install any applications you wish to have on your phone.
With a customized ROM, you can get anything from a bare-minimum install, (just the OS and nothing more), to a completely new layout with TouchFlo3D, Manala 2D, HTC Home, etc. Look at the ROM development forum, decide what you want your phone to do, and go with it. There are also betas for Windows Mobile 6.5 if you wish to try it, as well as ROM's with PIE 8.5, Opera, and virtually any combination you could possibly want to customize the layout of your phone. The phone will be as a completely different device if that is what you so desire. As far as customisation programs, look into Advanced Configurator 3.3 or Kaiser Tweak. You can also install a registry editor and do the edits manually if you so desire.
thanks for that, that simplifies it somewhat. Should i be attempting to do this to my phone in fear of a major screwup if i lack in depth undertanding of what i am actually doing? i can download the files and follow steps and probably get it right but if something goes wrong i will have not a clue of how to fix it or what i did wrong. Thats my only fear.... what your thoughts?
also can you recommend any decent ROMs for a first timer/do you know anyone i can ask?
RE: Fears
Yeah, first time flashing is pretty scary. Believe me, I know all too well how nerve wracking flashing ROMs can be the first couple of times. Just make sure you follow the directions to a "T" and you should be fine. =]
But, if by some freak accident or some screw-up on your part...there ARE a few fixes depending on what broke. There are various threads in the ROM area on this particular thing.
With that being said, just follow the flashing instructions, make sure you backup your PIM, and then pick yourself a good ROM! =]
For first-timers I'd go with either a standard 6.0-6.1 ROM or something by Dutty or L26. It's been so long and so many flashes since my first that I've honestly forgotten which one I started w/ but Dutty & L26 both make wonderful ROMs and I've had various builds by both.
Best of luck!
i am with 3 mobile: does this influence which ROM i chose. Or is this dealt with during the unlocking phase?
That is dealt with during the unlocking step. After you unlock your device, it will not matter who your carrier is. You could insert a SIM from Hong Kong if you wanted to.
Hi everyone. I just joined this forum and I am hoping to get some help from some wise jailbreaker out there..
I bought my G1 from T-Mobile a couple of weeks ago with the intent to jailbreak it and use it as a modem for my laptop. I finally got started on the project and I was stonewalled right from the get-go. Neither the original SD card in the phone nor my new 8GB SD card can be seen by either one of my computers. My desktop is running Windows XP Pro and my laptop is running Vista Home Premium. Neither one will see the SD card no matter what I do. The card does not show up in "My Computer" on either one of the systems, but shows up as "Drive J" in both of them under "Drive Mangement". But it says there is "No Media", so therefor nothing to format.
Since I can't even format the card, I am bogged down from the start. I am hoping someone out there can tell me what to do in order to jailbreak this phone, since that was the only reason I got it. I was perfectly happy with my HP6550 iPAQ otherwise...
Has anyone out there had the same problem?
have u tried formating the card to fat32?
You could try a sd reader. When you pluggin the phone in did you make sure to pull down the notification bar and click the usb thing and hit "Mount"?
Try going into settings, sdcard and storage and format the card that way. If not it sounds like a windows driver issue, you might want to try a card reader, or download and burn a live cd of linux something like ubuntu which will have no problem reading the android phone. You could also use hp as a card reader if it supports micro sdcards
You could just download the files you need through the internet on your phone also, I do all my flashing, downloading and modifing right on my g1, download something like linda or astro file manager from the market so that you can actually download the files
Thanks guys.
pistol4413: That is what I am trying to do according to instructions. But without the card beeing seen by Windows, it is sort of hard to format it...
crpercodani: Thanks for the tip. I will try a separate card reader. And there was no need to hit "mount". It all happened automatically and the phone said the card was mounted. Well, not in those words but it said the card was connected. I tried to unmount and remount again. Didn't do anything.
gridlock32404: I tried that (formatting in the phone). It did nothing. I will try a separate reader. The HP doesn't support micro SD, only mini and standard.
And I can't believe it would be a Windows driver issue both in my XP Pro system and Vista Premium...?
Provided I get this solve first of course, I am also curious if you might have detailed, reliable instructions on how to go through the whole root thing and getting the phone rooted and setup to provide a wireless network for my laptop? Right now I am following instructions from Anthony Moreno on YouTube. He has a few instructional videos on there that seem to make sense. But if any of you know of some other source for instructions, please let me know. I'd appreciate any help I can get to make this a smooth project and not a major headache...
There are many detailed posts and stickys, on this q and a there is a thread for the one click that is really good, it is written by david and is very good instructions
Thanks for the mention gridlock32404. I have a detailed guide in my sig for the one click method. Or if you search for root/hack g1 then there is a good guide that i used to root my phone back in the day. If you use my method and encounter any problems pm me because i will see that faster than a post in the thread also if you do it and go with the rom in the guide (latest cyanogen rom) it comes with a tether app to do exactly what want (at least i think it does)
They are good instructions david and I think that it is warranted to get sticky since most of the new g1 users are using it, I would perfer them to do the old fashioned way so they learn more about what they are doing but the one click is bringing a lot of new users to rooting since it is less scary
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They are good instructions david and I think that it is warranted to get sticky since most of the new g1 users are using it, I would perfer them to do the old fashioned way so they learn more about what they are doing but the one click is bringing a lot of new users to rooting since it is less scary
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I completely agree. People should root their phones the long way first but one click is good for people that know what they are doing
I got 2 guys that work at my local tmobile that asked me if next time I come pay my bill if I could root their phones for them so I might just give that one click a try. I got a ? For you on that regard, can I just pop my sdcard in there phones and set them up that way and when I flash the new rom I can put back in their card without any damge to mine when I put in back in my phone
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I got 2 guys that work at my local tmobile that asked me if next time I come pay my bill if I could root their phones for them so I might just give that one click a try. I got a ? For you on that regard, can I just pop my sdcard in there phones and set them up that way and when I flash the new rom I can put back in their card without any damge to mine when I put in back in my phone
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As long as you power your phone down first i can't see any why your sdcard would get damaged.
That's what I thought, so I guess I will do that tomorrow then or monday
You should tell them you will partition their sdcards and install the new spl, if they leave a mytouch on the table and look away lol.
It's a mytouch and a g1. The g1 guy wants hero so I would set that all up for him. Why do you say that about the mytouch, it's gonna be my first go on that so I am unsure
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It's a mytouch and a g1. The g1 guy wants hero so I would set that all up for him. Why do you say that about the mytouch, it's gonna be my first go on that so I am unsure
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The mytouch was a joke payment method. To do one click root on the mytouch make sure you put the 1.33.2005 spl on it, since any spl for the g1 (hard or eng) will brick it. Also you might want to get the amon_ra recovery image for the mytouch
Yeah I was planning to put the amon's recovery on their since they can't use the recovery console anyway, I was aware of the spl difference though so I was good on that, I did read up alittle on it
Hello friends, I'm sorry to improve open multiple threads on htc 8X, but I want to know some things that I think are important about htc 8x.first, how to flash original stock rom{not reset phone}, else how to install drop files on device and third, I 'd like to write in this topic people have htc 8x and what do about the phone.
Thanks in advance and again I apologize.
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how to flash original stock rom{not reset phone}
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You should find some roms here, with instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2094084
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I'm not sure what you mean by 'install drop files on device', I'll assume you meant placing files on the phone (using a USB cable) and then installing them. This is something you can't do right now.
Since we're talking about an HTC 8X, which doesn't have an SD card slot to install packaged apps (XAPs), your current only option to install anything on the phone is the Deployment tool (from the WP8 SDK), which is limited to unencrypted apps (so apps from the store wont work), and you can't have more than 3 of them installed at a time.
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and third, I 'd like to write in this topic people have htc 8x and what do about the phone.
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Wow, you ate a lot of words from there, I'll assume you meant "I'd like those people, who have an HTC 8X phone to write what they think about the device."
I own one. I was pretty happy with it, however I upgraded to another phone since. It's a really good phone, slim, light, has a ton of nice features, easy to use, etc. If you're coming from another platform be prepared to let go of some stuff you were used to having, as Windows Phone works on some slightly different philosophies. But there are a lot of ways a Windows Phone is simply better than other OS-es, in things like: UI responsiveness and speed, the amount of features packed into a device, and the live tiles are something I simply couldn't live without anymore.
Especially now, since the 8X's price dropped drastically, I still consider it a high-end phone, at least until the next wave of 5 and 6" phones come out.
As this is an HTC 8x related question mostly, It'd have been better placed in this forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-8x
Cheers
i try with rom update utillity,but got error 270,image corrupted.i try everything,but nothing...i dont know how to restore retail rom on my htc...
just one post ?
i want to flash stock europe 1.00 rom on my htc 8x,beacuse my cid is htc_032....btw,got error 338 PK_VERIFY_ERROR,says please flash key image retail...i dont know what this mean...pls help me.
I know there is something with not being able to save to the card but I can't even go into my card with a file manager and move files around to clean it up. Does HTC have a fix for this or do they really require you to go to the underground here lol to fix this dumb s***? This is ridiculous. They should have put this limitation in the specs to be fair. Who'd imagine someone would sell you a phone you couldn't manage the files within it? It's like selling a car you couldn't clean, unless of course you went to this special place on the internet where they'd give you the instructions on how to tweak your car so you could clean it. But get your tool kit and study materials because you'll have to put in and time and education... to what again? Move files around your sd card? Excuse me, sorry. Anyone know a solution or do I gotta root and void my warranty?
Sent from my HTC One_M8
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I know there is something with not being able to save to the card but I can't even go into my card with a file manager and move files around to clean it up. Does HTC have a fix for this or do they really require you to go to the underground here lol to fix this dumb s***? This is ridiculous. They should have put this limitation in the specs to be fair. Who'd imagine someone would sell you a phone you couldn't manage the files within it? It's like selling a car you couldn't clean, unless of course you went to this special place on the internet where they'd give you the instructions on how to tweak your car so you could clean it. But get your tool kit and study materials because you'll have to put in and time and education... to what again? Move files around your sd card? Excuse me, sorry. Anyone know a solution or do I gotta root and void my warranty?
Sent from my HTC One_M8
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That's pretty good, I can see you have never owned an iPhone
you plug an iPhone into a PC it looks like a camera folder and all you get to see is your pictures.
I can plug my M7 into my PC and create / move / delete / apps / ringtones / movies / books / alerts / backup installed apps / and with a usb OTG you get even more file management options.
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That's pretty good, I can see you have never owned an iPhone
you plug an iPhone into a PC it looks like a camera folder and all you get to see is your pictures.
I can plug my M7 into my PC and create / move / delete / apps / ringtones / movies / books / alerts / backup installed apps / and with a usb OTG you get even more file management options.
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Thanks anyway. That's it uh? Yeah, I'm aware and that's what I do from time to time. The next time I have to connect this phone to my comp I'm gonna root it it. I don't really care about the warranty as I've never been one to need reasons for warranties, knock on wood, but I imagine most people do, along with wanting to be able to manage their files on their phones. Okay, that's it, I'm rooting it once I set aside the time.
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Thanks anyway. That's it uh? Yeah, I'm aware and that's what I do from time to time. The next time I have to connect this phone to my comp I'm gonna root it it. I don't really care about the warranty as I've never been one to need reasons for warranties, knock on wood, but I imagine most people do, along with wanting to be able to manage their files on their phones. Okay, that's it, I'm rooting it once I set aside the time.
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these phone are famous for bad camera and bad mic
make sure yours are good before going too far