Nexus One market life span? - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys,
I've been looking to buy a Nexus, however Im hesitant because of all the rapid improvements to smart-phones lately. Seems like just yesterday my G1 was the **** because of its 528mhz processor.. But if I were to lay down the $500+ for it, I would hate for the "Nexus 2" to come out a month later.. accompanied by the regret and face palms. Of course, I'm not expecting that specific scenario to unfold, but how long do you think the specs for the N1 will last as a competitive player in the field? And do you think it's safe to say the upcoming android updates we have yet to experience will be compatible with it?
-Thanks for your input!

The Nexus One is a great phone, but as with the G1 ALL technology is eventually replaced, I chose the nexus one becuase its Googles phone, which means if any phone has a chance to still be the beta tester for all android things to come it would be the nexus one. The Evo and Incredible are all basically re-branded Nexus One's, same hardware different software. The nexus one was my first smartphone, actually my first phone ever (my parents hate tech lol) and I've seen people with their iphones and bberries and I pull out my nexus one and KNOW without a shadow of a doubt I have the best phone. If the nexus one looks appealing to you and you are happy with what it can do, I say you wont be dissapointed. But, if you are hesitant and iffy on the purchase, perhaps wait and see whats around Androids corner. I love my nexus one and from what I see from competitive android smartphones and still think mine is the best.
-Cheers with your decision

Sell your G1, use the money towards the N1... Do it soon, buying the N1 via google won't last much longer, once retailers get ahold of it it'll cost considerably more.
The rumor/heresay is that the N2 will be out in Nov. Then just repeat the cycle of selling old, use money towards the new one.
Kind of like you're leasing the best phone at the moment

If you say n2 will come and will wait, and when the n2 comes out ou can wait for the n3. you can do two things.
Buy a new phone, and sell it after few months to buy a new one. if you sell it before a newer version comes out you can sell it almost the same price you bought it. put some extre $ and buy a new one. I do this > i had over 30 phones in my life > i'm 22 years now
or what you also can do is skip a generation. so if you buy n1 skip n2 and wait for n3 (for example). so you can use you don't have to switch phones that often.

I bought the N1 as my first smartphone and have been very happy with it. I would say it will last a while since Google demonstrated their new OS (Android 2.2) on it and also previewed the release after that on a N1. That gave me hope to know that it will work with the release of 2.2 and also the release after that. Whether they will continue to release the new OS for it after that is unknown, but there are always custom ROMs that could add functionality.

Go For It
I say buy the N1 if you like it. Yeah, there's no front-facing camera, gyroscope, or whatever else the next line of premium Android phones will all contain. It is still going to receive Google's updates first for at least another year. Also, as with the G1, the dev community is doing excellent work and should have no problem extending it's life even further beyond that. If the G1 is still going almost 2 years and numerous updates later, Nexus owners have nothing to worry about.

Namuna said:
Sell your G1, use the money towards the N1... Do it soon, buying the N1 via google won't last much longer, once retailers get ahold of it it'll cost considerably more.
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I don't think so. It will be aggressively priced once it hits retailers. Or may be bundled with some accessories.

Either act today, or wait 6 months. This market moves fast.

seriously this thread has been posted so many times before. just search. the nexus will be the flagship until next january for sure. it still has a long life left, so buy it and enjoy it. nexus two isnt even a rumor yet, and wouldnt be out till next year.

Motorola has a 2ghz phone hitting store before the end of the year, with 1080P vide out.
You're never gonna be "top of the line" for more than 6 months.

subramanianv said:
I don't think so. It will be aggressively priced once it hits retailers. Or may be bundled with some accessories.
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I already see it listed at various other places for $650+.
Somehow, I doubt that will come down once buying straight from the "manufacturer" for "cheap" is no longer an option.

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Nexus One Prices

So, now that the Nexus One is sold out of the Google store, do you think prices for very lightly used Nexus Ones on eBay will go up or down soon? Today I saw a new one sell for $560, while I see online retailers and Buy-it-nows for like $650. I just now saw a used Nexus One sell for $376 in the auction, and used ones I have seen are in the high-300s and 400s (although sometimes not all the original accessories are included). So I was thinking, the prices could go up because there is a higher demand for a limited supply of great phones, while also there may be a decrease in demand for a phone that could have a loss of support in the future. But I am basically wondering, how much different do you think the prices in the near future (maybe 1 month or so) on eBay will be than they are now?
Stevv said:
So, now that the Nexus One is sold out of the Google store, do you think prices for very lightly used Nexus Ones on eBay will go up or down soon? Today I saw a new one sell for $560, while I see online retailers and Buy-it-nows for like $650. I just now saw a used Nexus One sell for $376 in the auction, and used ones I have seen are in the high-300s and 400s (although sometimes not all the original accessories are included). So I was thinking, the prices could go up because there is a higher demand for a limited supply of great phones, while also there may be a decrease in demand for a phone that could have a loss of support in the future. But I am basically wondering, how much different do you think the prices in the near future (maybe 1 month or so) on eBay will be than they are now?
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It depend on what other choice people have, There's quite a few android phone coming out, in the mean time I guess some people who have the $$ will pay high price to get what they want
my advice is to not buy a Nexus One.
The nexus one is a great phone, totally worth the price and options and if you have your mind set on one, dont let anyone tell you different. However, its being a little outdone by recent phones. It doesn't make sense to buy a phone that is already being surpassed. Currently newer android phones like the Droid X or the Galaxy S line cost the same as the Nexus but have higher hardware.
My predictions for the price of the Nexus One are: Initially the price will go up, as with all technology, if something is hard to acquire the price will jump as it is valuable and you can milk the buyer. After some time the price will stabilize and begin to be less then the $530 initial price.
Yeah to tell you the truth I would rather have something like an Evo 4G or a Droid X, but those phones are locked to their respective carriers in the USA right? I live in Germany right now and will for about another year, and I would rather have a very unlocked phone like the Nexus One which I can buy from American eBay (or Google store before it closed) and ship it here to avoid paying in Euros.
The galaxy S is a very good phone from what I hear, there is also a International version of the phone.
I bought mine €427 all-in
my screen is now cracked on my nexus after a bad drop and I have been debating if i wanted to spend 530 on a new nexus for a couple weeks now.
ultimatly i couldn't convice myself to spend that much on a phone already outdated hardware wise even though the software support is first rate.
The samsung galaxy s is an awesome phone but the fact its shipping without froyo for now is a deal killer. After using froyo I can not go back to 2.1. Some people might say just buy it and wait for it to be released this fall, but there are some eye poping rumors about the HTC vision coming out.
Overall, the nexus was a GREAT phone, and without the crack I wouldnt be in the market for a new phone but spending 600+ for one doesnt make much sense now
The big bonus everyone forgets about the N1 is that its basically a dev phone.
Google pretty much wants us to tinker with it, stuff it full of roms and abuse it.
We also get alot more access to do to our phone what other carriers and makers are trying to block and stop.
Yes the hardware isnt the "newest" of the new but I would hardly call the phone outdated. Is my 2010 Fusion outdated because the 2011s are coming out? hardly. It isnt the newest on the block anymore but its still relevant and supported.
Also, I think that unless a phone comes to market with Gingerbread later this year the Nexus will probably be the first device to run this for a few months at least.
Lastly, look at the iPhone 4. I can show you a handful of reviews where even mac fans say the Nexus one closely matches that phone in performance and features and they only release one a yr. The nexus one wont be irrelevant until next summer.
I think that, until Google proves it can push an Android update to all phones simultaneously, there will always be a market for the Nexus 1.

Should I Sell My Nexus One?

I got this Nexus One by trading my G1 and $125.
Am currently on T-Mobile - contract up in March 2010
Ive been getting quite a few offers for my Nexus.
- Two people on craigslist are asking 300-350.
My phone is literally 10/10 condition and comes w/
everything , casemate case.
You think I should sell it for 300-350 now?
Should I wait till March 2010 when my contract is up? or do you guys think it will drop in resale value way more by then.
also do you think 300-350 is fair if cash is given
stfwayne said:
I got this Nexus One by trading my G1 and $125.
Am currently on T-Mobile - contract up in March 2010
Ive been getting quite a few offers for my Nexus.
- Two people on craigslist are asking 300-350.
My phone is literally 10/10 condition and comes w/
everything , casemate case.
You think I should sell it for 300-350 now?
Should I wait till March 2010 when my contract is up? or do you guys think it will drop in resale value way more by then.
also do you think 300-350 is fair if cash is given
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Do you need the money? Do you really want to sell it?
Only way I would sell my Nexus One is if I needed the money and I had another Nexus One already to replace it.
If you like the phone and don't need the money then why sell it?
Not a lot of better devices right now. Would hold on till contract ends or if something u like shows up. But it really depends on u'r needs: money, etc...
Practically all new androids are better than it. Choose wisely.
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stfwayne said:
I got this Nexus One by trading my G1 and $125.
Am currently on T-Mobile - contract up in March 2010
Ive been getting quite a few offers for my Nexus.
- Two people on craigslist are asking 300-350.
My phone is literally 10/10 condition and comes w/
everything , casemate case.
You think I should sell it for 300-350 now?
Should I wait till March 2010 when my contract is up? or do you guys think it will drop in resale value way more by then.
also do you think 300-350 is fair if cash is given
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I am in a similar position, been offerend 350CDN for my Nexus but there really aren't any other phones out there that offer anything substantial over it to sell it... I like the Galaxy S, but until it is officially on Froyo it seems to buggy and really only has the bigger screen as the biggest reason to upgrade. I'm holding off until there is a substantial reason to upgrade.
dynamikd said:
Practically all new androids are better than it. Choose wisely.
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Please enlighten us of these "new androids"
I dunno guys, I love my Nexus too but I'd sell it if I could use an EVO or a Droid X on GSM I think. The screen pisses me off to end on the N1 the lack of accuracy, the effed up multitouch and the horrible performance of the screen in sunlight drive me crazy. This is an amazing phone but HTC had to go and screw up the whole package by choosing a ****ty screen. Coming from an iPhone 3GS I can tell you that this screen is by no means at par
Better than N1
S_Dot said:
Please enlighten us of these "new androids"
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Gladly! New androids as in practically every android made after the Nexus One.
Verizon - Droid X, Droid 2, Droid Incredible, HTC Merge, Droid R2D2, & Samsung Fascinate
Sprint - Evo 4g
Tmobile - HD2, Samsung Vibrant (if you can stand touchwiz) & G2
And these are the phones that I can think of off the top of my head. If you want to check out the European phones: Desire, Desire Z, Desire HD.
So to reiterate, yes the Nexus One was a good phone, very nostalgic, set the tone for the new devices that came out. But with that being said, the new devices that came out are better than the Nexus One. So read up, pick one you like, and either sell the N1 or hold onto it for sentimental value.
dynamikd said:
Gladly! New androids as in practically every android made after the Nexus One.
Verizon - Droid X, Droid 2, Droid Incredible, HTC Merge, Droid R2D2, & Samsung Fascinate
Sprint - Evo 4g
Tmobile - HD2, Samsung Vibrant (if you can stand touchwiz) & G2
And these are the phones that I can think of off the top of my head. If you want to check out the European phones: Desire, Desire Z, Desire HD.
So to reiterate, yes the Nexus One was a good phone, very nostalgic, set the tone for the new devices that came out. But with that being said, the new devices that came out are better than the Nexus One. So read up, pick one you like, and either sell the N1 or hold onto it for sentimental value.
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i don't really understand caring about wether or not you're on a contract. put the SIM in and use whatever phone. surely you're not considering LOCKING YOURSELF into another 2 or 3 year commitment for the sake of a $4-500 phone ?
as far as all those being better, the hardware specs are very similar. the carriers... oh man, CONTRACTS ! no thank you. i'll stick with the tmo pay-to-play non contract.
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i don't really understand caring about wether or not you're on a contract. put the SIM in and use whatever phone. surely you're not considering LOCKING YOURSELF into another 2 or 3 year commitment for the sake of a $4-500 phone ?
as far as all those being better, the hardware specs are very similar. the carriers... oh man, CONTRACTS ! no thank you. i'll stick with the tmo pay-to-play non contract.
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The no contract route is pretty cool. If there was a possibility of me leaving Tmobile, I'd go contract free. Since I know I'm not going anywhere, I apted to sign the contract.
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Yea. Before I paid Google 500+ I did my research about my nexus, and the math. Figured up over 2000+ dollars saved over two years using voip and Google voice, so I bought my nexus flat out and have been smiling since. Benchmark test wise I'm still over the Droid X and along with evolution I don't like the size. The g2 has 800 MHz =( and I don't use QWERTY or HDMI out. So a year after the purchase I would make it again today =)
N1 running psfreedom recovery and MIUI! sent via XDA app =D
All those phones mentioned have identical processors. Nothing running 1.3-1.5 ghz out yet. From what the news was saying is that towards the end of this year and begging of next we will have faster processors on smart phones.
I'd say hold off on selling your nexus or if you do, you aren't really getting anything better spec wise, maybe design is what you are looking for.
FunkyMcBain said:
I dunno guys, I love my Nexus too but I'd sell it if I could use an EVO or a Droid X on GSM I think. The screen pisses me off to end on the N1 the lack of accuracy, the effed up multitouch and the horrible performance of the screen in sunlight drive me crazy. This is an amazing phone but HTC had to go and screw up the whole package by choosing a ****ty screen. Coming from an iPhone 3GS I can tell you that this screen is by no means at par
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Agreed!
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Keep the Nexus !
If you are wanting to stay with a certain carrier, your Android choices can tend to become very limited. I've been with Tmobile for years, happy, not moving.
My phone choices.... I dont really see any phones offered yet as being worth
signing another two year contract for.
I mean nothing fantastically better that my Nexus.
Heres what I mean, two years ago I was on the original G1 prebuy.
The Nexus is very drastically better than the G1.
I just dont see the TMO phone thats drastically better than the N1.
And if you have a Nexus then you have TMO or AT&T and AT&T's Android phone selection is worse than TMO's.
I'm holding pat especially since the N1 gets the updates months before any other phone does.
MyTouch was supposed to get Froyo "soon", and months have gone by, still no update.
Its almost like TMO would rather just keep everyones attention on its once a month new phone release than update the older phones.
When I do get a new phone I will keep the N1 till I'm sure the new one is better.
I've yet to see that phone though.
^ very true.
What also worries me is that none of the announced phones that are due to be released in this Q of the year are a whole lot better than Nexus One.
But as someone else said, I love my N1 except for the screen. The screen pisses me off so much!!
The G2 and the new mytouch are good replacements for the N1 in my opinion. Granted I'm not too impressed with the new mytouch overall design, nevertheless, the specs are nice and the FFC is a plus.
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[Q] In today's market would you buy a brand new Nexus One?

I'm curious - if you had no working handset at the moment, had to pay full price for a handset, and didn't want to buy who potentially might be someone else's trash off Ebay or Craigslist, would you pay $265 for a BRAND NEW Nexus One ?
I had one when they first came out, and then moved up to newer and "better" handsets, either brand new or used....
My latest, the G2, which was bought off Craigslist, fried after 2 weeks of having it. I've already talked to HTC, but then say I'm looking at being without a phone for 2-3 weeks before a replacement will arrive.
So, knowing everything that is out right now, and everything that is coming, would you pay $265 for a brand new Nexus One , or shell out $500+ for a "current" or soon to be released handset?
Nexus......other than the evolution 3d or sgs2 or even maybe iPhone 5.
Edit: actually....I will by the nexus. It get quick updates plus is very hackable. Also I will be saving.up for the nexus 3!
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N1 anyday ...
Nexus One everyday at that price!
Just bought my wife a G2 to replace her (submerged) MT4G.
I would've preferred to get her a Nexus (still like the N1 better than both of those). The only reason I didn't was because I didn't want her to have the same phone as me - that's one of the advantages of not having a phone from the fruit company...
Without hesitation! I can't see what any new device has to offer that i don't have already.
Biggest benefit I can see of the newer devices is FFC , more RAM, and Dual-Core CPUs...
I've been thinking about it though - other than a larger screen, the N1 did everything I wanted it to do. Only complaint I had was when I held the phone to my face with my right shoulder, because the 2nd mic on the back was covered by my shoulder, everyone I talked to said I sounded really muffled.
its a pretty hard deal to pass up getting a new nexus one at 250 dollars. you cant go wrong if you do get it. newer phones like the galaxy s2 have better gaming. but really i'd get the n1 again today if i had to.

Replacement for Nexus One

Hopefully this is an appropriate question for this forum. I'm looking to replace my wife's N1...well, give her my N1 and get a new phone for me.
I'm considering both the Sensation and the G2X but I'm leaning towards the Sensation. I know this is an opinionated question, but does anyone on this forum have any reason to go with the G2X over the N1?
I'm hoping that non-Sense ROMs will come soon to the Sensation so that is a little bit of a concern for now.
Thoughts?
rickh925 said:
Hopefully this is an appropriate question for this forum. I'm looking to replace my wife's N1...well, give her my N1 and get a new phone for me.
I'm considering both the Sensation and the G2X but I'm leaning towards the Sensation. I know this is an opinionated question, but does anyone on this forum have any reason to go with the G2X over the N1?
I'm hoping that non-Sense ROMs will come soon to the Sensation so that is a little bit of a concern for now.
Thoughts?
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With the Galaxy 2 just around the corner and the Nexus device coming on winter is kinda the wrong time to buy a g2x or a sensation in my opinion especially with a 2yr contract.
josemedina1983 said:
With the Galaxy 2 just around the corner and the Nexus device coming on winter is kinda the wrong time to buy a g2x or a sensation in my opinion especially with a 2yr contract.
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Yup, I'm waiting for the Hercules. I don't know why I didn't consider that. Probably because they weren't on TMobile's site yet. Looks like release date is not till end of September though.
If the still shady internet rumors are true then we'll find out in about two months what the Hercules has in store.
If the even shadier internet rumors come to fruition then we'll hear more about what the Nexus 3 has in store in about four months.
Next year we are supposed to have quad-core phone chips available. Wow.
I can tell you the problem with the g2x. One the price dropped like crazy in just a few months now u can get it on ebay for 300 when ppl bough it for 200 with a 2 contract your better off buying it off contract or waiting 2 more months and getting for 200. The sensation the problem that sense turn into a drag more than a benefit takes alot of space and ram it slows down your device. Now everyone is bragging how good the Galaxy S 2 is so it must be fast as hell and the Next Nexus lets hope it comes out on T-Mo with all the AT&T drama.
FYI, K-Mobs is working on getting CM7 up and running on the Sensation. He is fairly far along with development (although there haven't been any public releases just yet). I would probably expect nightlies to hit within a few weeks (if not sooner).
But, as others have mentioned, phones are changing quickly. In my mind, I couldn't justify getting a new device so close to the N3 release without knowing what the N3 will be. So, I would wait a few months and see what the N3 will bring to the table. Then decide on that.

The frustration of release dates

Why do we have to endure weeks of waiting for the release of a new Samsung device when it has been announced? All those people at the unpacked event waving the Note 4 and Edge around on stage or within the experience stands make me jealous but also make me angry.
I never see why the phones/devices cannot be on the shelves within a week of an announcement for contract free purchases. I understand there might be negotiations with carriers but why stop those with the cash in their hands?
I also would love to know who decides on which country gets a certain device and when.
Samsung is particularly bad at this. They drag their heels with pricing, release dates and availability. Surely this can be all in place prior to their events.
It's not wrong, you're right!
Apple does very well
I know. How long does it take to mole the circuit board, etc?
Its potential for cash cow. People say Oct 5th for T-mobile. Thats 4 weeks too long.
This is one thing Apple actually does very well. Release date generally follows announcement by less than 2 weeks. Pre-orders start just a few days after the announcement.
It is very annoying. I wish they'd just wait to announce until they're closer to release. Who cares if it leaks during production? Samsung isn't as bad as LG tho, they are terrible.
This article is another reason why the wait is irritating. http://www.gsmarena.com/nvidia_files_a_patent_lawsuit_against_samsung_and_qualcomm-news-9564.php
Samsung is terrible at this. Apple has almost always released within earshot knowing the hypetrain is still there. By the time Note 4 arrives iPhone6 will be on shelves. Noone outside the geekworld is hyped about a Note 4. Even casuals know a new and bigger iPhone are coming. After the S5 dissaponting sales you'd think Samsung would pull out all stops.
Shame, they could be taking advantage of the earlier announcement over apple but they're going to just let apple rake in the earlier pre orders.
for one, it's pretty obvious they need time to produce hundreds of thousands of them first., on top of that, each carrier needs time to receive the units and to do their own testing and get samsung to load things on to them, firmware,modems,etc..
surely if they were available right after announced that would mean the device was already in productions many weeks prior and shipped/stocked at all retailers before hand.. this wouldn't make sense..
this is just standard on all electronic and if you ever bought any other piece of electronic in the past, you would have known this is normal practice to announce and then begin shipping out to retailers.
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Shame, they could be taking advantage of the earlier announcement over apple but they're going to just let apple rake in the earlier pre orders.
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preorders are already open on the sprint website and have been for a couple days http://www.sprint.com/landings/samsung_note4/index.html?ECID=vanity:galaxynote4
blame the carrier if yours isn't available for preorder yet.
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for one, it's pretty obvious they need time to produce hundreds of thousands of them first., on top of that, each carrier needs time to receive the units and to do their own testing and get samsung to load things on to them, firmware,modems,etc..
surely if they were available right after announced that would mean the device was already in productions many weeks prior and shipped/stocked at all retailers before hand.. this wouldn't make sense..
this is just standard on all electronic and if you ever bought any other piece of electronic in the past, you would have known this is normal practice to announce and then begin shipping out to retailers.
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Well I already stated that I understood why there was a delay for carrier testing but I am talking about those who wish to buy outright. And if Apple and HTC can get their stock out shortly after announcements then why can't Samsung? Saying this is normal practice does not make it acceptable.
The devices shown at the launch were not prototypes, the production process has already begun and could have been stepped up prior to the launch.
Also, it still does not answer the question on pricing, release dates and country availability (for carrier free devices) these things need to be finalised before launch or very shortly after. In my opinion it's all just a tactic to build up some sort of hype
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blame the carrier if yours isn't available for preorder yet.
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Preorder is not the same thing. I only see registration for email alert. Same as T-mobile.
I find it strange that Cellphone carriers do not even concentrate in advertizing for the release of the Note 4.
This is why its nice not having carriers mess and install a bunch of bloat. I don't think carriers mess around with iPhones and install their software on it, so less time wasted on things you don't need or care about. Just get the product out and sell it.
Anyways, just poor planning really, a month is a long time in the tech world and consumer electronic hype wears off fairly fast when something else new and shiny comes out in between then.
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Saying this is normal practice does not make it acceptable.
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People love hyperbole I guess. If it is 'unacceptable' to you then buy an iPhone or HTC product.
Samsung can release its phone any dang time they feel like it - that's their business. If you don't like it, you can not buy it - that's your business.
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People love hyperbole I guess. If it is 'unacceptable' to you then buy an iPhone or HTC product.
Samsung can release its phone any dang time they feel like it - that's their business. If you don't like it, you can not buy it - that's your business.
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Well duh.. Thanks for explaining that, I feel so enlightened now.
My point of this post is for debate as to why it happens. We the consumers are entitled to complain. I am looking for logical answers not "If you don't like it buy something else" it's not bringing much to the table.
Thats why i am getting the Iphone 6 over the Note 4, it'll be available sooner and i need a high end phone bad. Good thing is ill be able to sell the iphone 6 at a great price and pick up the note 4 when its out.
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Well duh.. Thanks for explaining that, I feel so enlightened now.
My point of this post is for debate as to why it happens. We the consumers are entitled to complain. I am looking for logical answers not "If you don't like it buy something else" it's not bringing much to the table.
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There is no answer other than that is how samsung chooses to do it.
Could they hold the announcement closer to the physical release? Yes, of course they could. They just prefer to do it this way, for whatever marketing reason.
If the marketing people thought it was strategic to announce closer to physical release, they would. But clearly they don't.
If Samsung "should" copy something apple does, its their method of announcing and SHIPPING a product very quickly post launch. That is their only major issue. Why allow other OEM's to get product out the door and lose sales and yes they do lose sales and now that apple is going big and bigger on their phones next week with a launch before the Note 4 hits stores that is a big deal and some would be Note 4 buyers will get a 5.5" iphone instead, (dumb move, but it's their choice).
I fully agree with the OP and carriers are very likely the issue. Negotiations would likely have been done already, in the US anyways its likely more about last minute bloatware and who has a "bigger" tower than anything else.
I blame Verizon, for everything lol.
Apple has more control over the carriers.
Apple has more control over the carriers and the supply chain, that is why their rollouts are quicker.
iPhone 6 on the 19th
I thought this thread would be exploding with comments about how Apple can do it in less than 2 weeks.
Anything over 30 days is crazy. The battery life on my Note 2 fading away, I've been eligible for an upgrade for months.
Now that I know the specifics of the Note 4 it has given my a chance to look at other phones S5, G3, M8 or wait for Nexus X.
The longer I wait the less likely that I'll make an 'impulse buy' I'm still excited about the Note 4 but I'm weighting the cost vs features.
What's up with the pre order pages on Samsung.com and Sprint.com? Did I actually pretty order or was it just an email notification? I didn't even receive an email confirmation.

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