Hi everyone,
I have a T-Mobile TP2 and have been torn on whether or not to upgrade to 6.5 for some time now. Well I finally decided to go for it, but then came across the official unbranded HTC rom.
My question is (dealing only with official release updates from tmobile and htc):
Who has upgraded to both branded and unbranded and can relay pros and cons of both compared to 6.1 and each other? Or has anyone heard enough about both, or can give me any relevant information?
Also, do I need to HardSPL in order to flash the HTC rom?
I'd really like to lose all the bloatware and sh!tty splash screen and everything else t-mo, but I don't know if there is any clear-cut advantage to doing so.
Also, if I am completely daft and missed a similar pre-existing thread, please inform me of my mistake. Same goes if I posted in the wrong section, this is my first post in evar.
THANKS!!!
Put Hardspl on your phone and you can test yourself You can always go back to the 6.1 rom.
is there a stock manila 2.5 ROM offered by t-mo?
if not, 2.5 + CHT is definately worth using the HTC ROM.
I would not mess with Sense 2.5 unless it is cooked. You need a lot of tweaks to make it run smoothly on the TP2, especially in HTC messaging. I am using a cooked version of the T-Mobile stock rom with Sense 2.1, has been the best and most stable rom for me yet. Sense 2.5 is good if you don't mind giving up some performance for new features. Sense 2.1 is what our devices run best with. Hope this helps you decide.
EDIT: In comparison to WinMo 6.1 with TF3D, upgrading to 6.5 with Sense2.1 will in my opinion make the device run smoother. 6.1 is a very solid OS and works well with TouchFlo to make scrolling much easier. However, I say if you can upgrade the device to 6.5 without losing performance go for it because it is much better integrated than TouchFlo, making the touch experience much better. Through my testing, the TP2 functions best with WinMo 6.5 with Sense2.1. The newer WinMo builds are probably better off using on the HD2 and other high performance devices. Same thing with Sense2.5, it can run smoothly but you will be giving up some speed as well as memory and battery life. I have come to terms with my phone, lol... Nothing beyond Sense2.1 and WM6.5 from now on. But you have to test on your own to see which you like better. Good luck!
I've been cooking own ROM for a few weeks now, and it's a T-Mobile no frills ROM.
It's not quite finished, but it's very stable and the battery life is excellent. I could always use another tester if you're interested.
krodby said:
Hi everyone,
I have a T-Mobile TP2 and have been torn on whether or not to upgrade to 6.5 for some time now. Well I finally decided to go for it, but then came across the official unbranded HTC rom.
My question is (dealing only with official release updates from tmobile and htc):
Who has upgraded to both branded and unbranded and can relay pros and cons of both compared to 6.1 and each other? Or has anyone heard enough about both, or can give me any relevant information?
Also, do I need to HardSPL in order to flash the HTC rom?
EDIT: I used the official T-Mobile for several weeks, it is OK. I'm on NRG now.
I'd really like to lose all the bloatware and sh!tty splash screen and everything else t-mo, but I don't know if there is any clear-cut advantage to doing so.
Also, if I am completely daft and missed a similar pre-existing thread, please inform me of my mistake. Same goes if I posted in the wrong section, this is my first post in evar.
THANKS!!!
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You would have to hard SPL to use the HTC ROM.
The Official WM 6.5 is a sense 2.1 version, but you would not need to hard SPL.
Thanks for all of your help!
I'm still not sure what i'll do for now, but i'll probably end up just biting the bullet and becoming an addict. I'll start with the official sh!t and gateway into flashing every stable rom that exists lol.
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Okay Here is my problem I have a Tilt and want to upgrade to WM 6.1 but I don't know which rom I should go with (The one from att, Hyper Dragon, Dutty, etc..). Does anyone have any opinions on which upgrade rom I should go with?
Also side question WTF is up with the SD cards not showing data anymore after a while?
I used Hyper Dragon and its been fine. Again, it all depends on what you do with your phone
I want something stable and but speedy. I get my email, use S2P, Surf with Skyfire, use TL as today screen, use Final burn for Neo Geo games and need it not to freeze or screw up like it does now with 6.0. I Have a lot of multimedia so I need free ram (if possible) because people always ask to see it since my job is to sell phones and I need to "wow" customers with it.
I don't know if that helps to narrow it down but any advice would be greatly appreciated.
I have tried them all and always seem to go back to HyperdragonIII. In my opinion its the fastest and most stable and Manila2D works and looks great. I would try the 11th oct version as it has no bugs that i can find and some of the newer builds are more experimental. Follow the link in my sig to the HyperDragon Thread.
Edit: If you require a non Manila2D Rom to show your customers then 5th sept is the best for HyperDragonIII
I would go with the offical update or a NATF rom. I like NotATreoFan's roms because they are clean and quick, but I would suggest just tyring out WinMo 6.1 first (with the offical update). You may find you prefer WinMo 6.
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IYou may find you prefer WinMo 6.
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So true
Unfortunately once a phone is upgraded, it's not as easy as running the older ROM RUU for reverting either - there's lots of hoops to jump through as far as reverting is concerned.
I Have my opinion of what ROM is best. But this may differ for you.
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Hi all. After much gnashing of teeth with awful performance of my Touch HD, which was cured by sending it back & getting fixed, I'm now at a stage where everything's working quite well, so naturally I want to tinker with it
I've seen recent (i.e. this week) posts about continued improvements by MS on the 6.5 OS, which will assumedly get incorporated into future ROMs. Also, HTC seems to be getting near to releasing touchflo/manilla 2.5.
As i've not flashed before (ho ho), I'm a bit trepidatious about the whole thing, and am keen not to have to do it regularly, given the hassle of PIMbackup/sashimi/scripts/etc. So what I'd like to geet a feel for - what I wonder if anyone has any useful opinion about - is:
If you were upgrading, when would you do it? What would you wait for? A specific WM6.5 build? A stable release notice from MS? An official release of manilla2.5? A cooked ROM which has official stable manilla2.5 final on top of official stable 6.5 final, and has been beta-tested like crazy by other users?
All musings appreciated.
Cheers
dez
i flashed my first rom the day i got my hd.
why wait?
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i flashed my first rom the day i got my hd.
why wait?
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Quite right too!!
the HDs standard ROM is dog-awful compared to the somewhat refined offerings on this forum.
IMO avoid Manilla 2.5 until HTC have finished it...its getting a lot better but needs some refinement.
decide whether you want 6.1 or 6.5 then have a look through the chefs thread for each version ie. NRGZ28, Dutty , Mirri to name but a few (apologies to the chefs not mentioned)
the latest build of each ROM are 'usually' ok but its alway best to check the most recent posting in any thread which some give some indication of this.
Also make sure you read the wiki regarding flashing CrackWhore i believe offers sound advice.
and dont for a second think you will only flash once! LOL its very addictive.
but there is one thing for certain no matter whose ROM you go for it WILL utterly transform your HD
good luck & happy flashing!!
Don't be scared, read up properly and flash away.
As said, It's addictive and you'll end up trying all the different Roms.
Only you can decide what and when is a good time to try whatever OS or Manilla you want, they are changing all the time so I would follow purecodes advice and get flashing.
Basically get the latest Hardspl, then decide on a rom and have them all downloaded ready on the pc. have loads of wiki type pages open to reassure you and plug in, install the Hards spl (5 mins) and them the rom (10-15 mins)
I use pim backup for contacts, texts,calender,etc and sprite for email and tones/settings, never had a problem with gettin the phone back how i like it within half an hour. MS myphone is another backup to have.
dez93_2000 said:
Hi all. After much gnashing of teeth with awful performance of my Touch HD, which was cured by sending it back & getting fixed, I'm now at a stage where everything's working quite well, so naturally I want to tinker with it
I've seen recent (i.e. this week) posts about continued improvements by MS on the 6.5 OS, which will assumedly get incorporated into future ROMs. Also, HTC seems to be getting near to releasing touchflo/manilla 2.5.
As i've not flashed before (ho ho), I'm a bit trepidatious about the whole thing, and am keen not to have to do it regularly, given the hassle of PIMbackup/sashimi/scripts/etc. So what I'd like to geet a feel for - what I wonder if anyone has any useful opinion about - is:
If you were upgrading, when would you do it? What would you wait for? A specific WM6.5 build? A stable release notice from MS? An official release of manilla2.5? A cooked ROM which has official stable manilla2.5 final on top of official stable 6.5 final, and has been beta-tested like crazy by other users?
All musings appreciated.
Cheers
dez
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As long as you follow dummies guide for flashing and read up on each rom you'll be fine.
As for everything else, your queries are opinionated and will create a long thread and is thus frowned upon. For this reason I am closing this thread.
hi, i just got my x1 a few weeks back and im looking to upgrade the rom and what i realized is it involves many more steps than what was required for my universal before?
i upgraded the official rom via the SD card method and that worked like a charm. But what i dont know is which rom can i upgrade to on my x1... as it seems that they are all based on R2... R3... etc?
so what im lookin for is a fast and simple answer on which roms i can upgrade on my x1. The method is not a problem. The rom selection is. And plus, which is the best rom you would recommend?
thankx
The best way is, imho:
Check the threads here. In each, you can find a description of the ROM,
a discussion about possible bugs and solutions, and recommendations from
the xda community.
Basically, you can flash any ROM you will find here. Some like the newest,
more "unofficial" builds of WinMo 6.5 with the Windows start menu at the
bottom, others prefer the "official" build with the menu at the top.
Again others prefer either a Windows only ROM, some Manila 2.1, some the
"latest" version 2.5, these are from the "Leo".
Almost the same applies to the radio/rilphone version.
If you have some spare time, make your own trials - start maybe with the
ROMs from agent_47, NRGZ28, spikegotti, itje, MrRusch... and soon, you
will have your very own, personal preferred solution.
thanks. another question? what is "manila"? unfimiliar with this term.
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thanks. another question? what is "manila"? unfimiliar with this term.
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Manila is the user interface by HTC, which seems to be a favorite of many
X1 users here at xda - there are many ROMs which are cooked with it.
Version 2.5 is taken from the upcoming Leo model, while 2.1 is from other
models, such as Rhodium and Topaz - those are the closest to the X1 from
hardware specifications. One kind of a "disadvantage" in the perception of
some users in the 2.5 version is missing landscape support for virtually all
functions, while 2.1 is fully landscape.
Manila brings eye candy, but also finger friendliness to WinMo devices. You
can easily recognize it with the big digital clock at the home screen.
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(...) One kind of a "disadvantage" in the perception of some users in the 2.5 version is missing landscape support for virtually all
functions, while 2.1 is fully landscape.
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I'd like to point out that the 2.5 version seems to be a little heavy for the X1.
The manila 2.1 from Rhodium\Topaz have a nice look & feel to them. Also battery life is VERY good with these versions (3 to 6 days on a single charge, depending on how you use your X1). Manila 2.1 does not have the Facebook and Twitter tabs, and has different Favorite and Home screen layouts.
My advise would be to go with a manila 2.1 ROM. My personal favorit is the FireStorm Rhodium\TOPAZ by Agent_47. It's loaded with lots of extra programs, and runs very stabile.
Excelent everyday use!
FireStorm Rhodium\TOPAZ by Agent_47? will give that a try? the htc leo is the HD 2 yes? and thanks for the clarification on the manila. been a great help. Is there much difference in the manila and the touch flo 3d cab? the cab seems to be stable too... and im not a big fan of wm6.5. ive never tried it before... how much free ram is there after the update?
mazlano27 said:
FireStorm Rhodium\TOPAZ by Agent_47? will give that a try? the htc leo is the HD 2 yes? and thanks for the clarification on the manila. been a great help. Is there much difference in the manila and the touch flo 3d cab? the cab seems to be stable too... and im not a big fan of wm6.5. ive never tried it before... how much free ram is there after the update?
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Manila is actually a nickname of what was called TouchFlo3D earlier, and to
complete the confusion, you will maybe read "Sense" sometimes, too. In fact,
that is again the same. Most people here use "Manila" and versions 2.1/2.5.
To install Manila with a cab is definitely quite a fast procedure, but the real
performance of your device will not be as fast as possible - even if stable.
The free RAM is different from ROM to ROM, lower WinMo "pure" ones are
somewhat around 30% memory usage, the lowest Manila ROMs are at
around 35-40% with 2.1, 45-55% with Manila 2.5 - but then again, this is
different from ROM to ROM.
In the sum, maybe a Touch X 10.8.2 or agent´s "Photon" ROM (standard)
could be a good point to start.
Once your are happy, the chef most probably will not be unhappy if you
take care of his/her donation fund...
Happy flashing!
thanks buddy uve been a great help. one last question, i have just upgraded my rom using the micro sd method. if i wanted to go back to my wm 6.1 official R3A rom which was released a lil over a week back, could i use that .nbh file to downgrade as if upgrading?
what im trying to ask is i just put the R3a rom file in my formatted sd card and load the phone in boot loader more and let the magic happen or a more complex process is required like backin up and restoring stock rom?
mazlano27 said:
thanks buddy uve been a great help. one last question, i have just upgraded my rom using the micro sd method. if i wanted to go back to my wm 6.1 official R3A rom which was released a lil over a week back, could i use that .nbh file to downgrade as if upgrading?
what im trying to ask is i just put the R3a rom file in my formatted sd card and load the phone in boot loader more and let the magic happen or a more complex process is required like backin up and restoring stock rom?
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I´ve seen your 2nd thread asking about speedy ROMs, and it seems you´re
already happily flashing...
Here´s the link for what to do in warranty/service needs...
yes happily flashing indeed. thanks buddy. just played around and got the hang of it. i understand it now.
Now that Tmo has made 6.5 available forthe Tp2 and Dash 3G. is it possible to somehow make that version work for the original Shadow? Seems to me like it should be a stable build? My wife has the Dash 3G and I've upgraded hers to 6.5, seems pretty sweet. I'm holding out for a snapdragon model but sure would like to upgrade my poor old Shadow somehow, without having to worry about this key not working and that function not performing correctly as I seem to read about from the ROMs that everyone else talks about. Help me out here!
You could always use the 6.5 ROM from Allshadow.com...I used it for nigh on 6 months without any real problems, only reason I stopped using it was when I upgraded phones heh.
Thanks for the reply ashasaur. I'll consider this but I'm still perplexed why an official ROM can't be reconfigured to use on my Shadow. There has got to be someone smarter than me that can do this!
Ah, I see. Well the main reason why the Shadow 07/09 will never get an official 6.5 from T-Mobile of course is because development for them from HTC stopped some time ago. The Shadow was never really a big time seller, and HTC is notorious for not supporting devices that don't sell well.
The other reason that an official-ish ROM is unlikely is because of hardware compatability between models. While it's true that the Snap/Dash 3G is technically just an upgraded Shadow, the hardware is COMPLETELY different.
So like I say, the unofficial AllShadow WM 6.5 is probably your best bet for 6.5 on the Shadow. While I can understand your want for an official ROM, custom ROMs are most of the time VASTLY superior to stock or official ROMs. Much less overhead, better preinstalled programs, no crapware etc. I would at least give it a try!
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Now that Tmo has made 6.5 available forthe Tp2 and Dash 3G. is it possible to somehow make that version work for the original Shadow? Seems to me like it should be a stable build? My wife has the Dash 3G and I've upgraded hers to 6.5, seems pretty sweet. I'm holding out for a snapdragon model but sure would like to upgrade my poor old Shadow somehow, without having to worry about this key not working and that function not performing correctly as I seem to read about from the ROMs that everyone else talks about. Help me out here!
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can u send me the rom
i have a stuck phone on boot
tmobile phoe100
not going on update
trying to look for an official rom for T8282 with wm6.5 on it, is there such rom available?
kenl said:
trying to look for an official rom for T8282 with wm6.5 on it, is there such rom available?
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NO....but personally in my opinion why do you need an official when there is soooo much newer ROM in this forum?? most roms here are much newer than official ROM anyway.
true, just thought to try the official if there was before the cooked rom due to option/settings set by the chef that i may not want on a cooked rom
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NO....but personally in my opinion why do you need an official when there is soooo much newer ROM in this forum?? most roms here are much newer than official ROM anyway.
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No official 6.5 ROM on T8282.
Mean no disrespect, newer doesn't always mean better. Especially when the hand-held device used on daily, real time based events.
It really sucks when you are checking up your schedule, the mobile phone went froze, with someone waiting your answers.
IMHO, stability, quick response are much more important than newer version. MS please give us one...8(
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No official 6.5 ROM on T8282.
Mean no disrespect, newer doesn't always mean better. Especially when the hand-held device used on daily, real time based events.
It really sucks when you are checking up your schedule, the mobile phone went froze, with someone waiting your answers.
IMHO, stability, quick response are much more important than newer version. MS please give us one...8(
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Well that's definitely TRUE! But you know that is why normally you should wait for other people to comment before installing them. You will find out whether they are seriously bug or rock stable. I dont know which ones you are using? but I have been using the latest Energy 23554 with GTX theme, and never had a single problem (crash or restart). In fact the GTX version look awesome! You need to remember most of the ROMs here are built from Non-official ROM or betas...so dont expect to be perfect!
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true, just thought to try the official if there was before the cooked rom due to option/settings set by the chef that i may not want on a cooked rom
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Actually most of the Blackstone owners have been hoping for a free upgrade, including myself. Unfortunately I think HTC dont like that idea, maybe because it will affect the sales of their newer HTC Leo. But anyway...i dont really care now...since we have this great forum anyway...
okay i'll give energy 23557 a try and see how it goes
Really no point on upgrading. HTC is bussy creating other phones (mainly Android since WM is dead).
Can someone provide a single thing that we gain with WM 6.5?
I mean the OS itself, not a ROM based on WM 6.5 that comes with updated manilla, Opera, Office etc,. You can install any app on AM 6.1 too.
WM 6.1 uses less RAM, leaving more for the apps (on 6.5 I start with 50% used and after a while even after closing all apps, 65% used). And the start menu has a MRU app list that makes very fast to switch from one app (open or not) to another. I still have to see how WM 6.5 is better in any aspect.