I've been a WM fan for years but recently a friend got the Droid on Verizon's network and I got to play with it and really liked it.
I know I can get an Euro Milestone but don't want to give up 3G speeds here in the US.
Are there any talks of getting this phone or the new updated one on TMO?
forget it man in US if you want to buy a motorola droid the only way is verizon
Yeah, it's basically Verizon's version of the iPhone (since when they released it/a short while before they released it it they made all the comments on how the Droid could do so and so and the iPhone couldn't do so and so (which of course since it's the iPhone, there's quite a few things it won't do that the droid will xD) so it's Verizon's major competition with the iPhone), chances are they won't give it up. T-Mobile gets the Nexus one though, which is a fantastic phone (with the exception of the lack of a keyboard, but you'll get used to a touch screen keyboard after a while).
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hiu guys i have a question qith so many phones out there and so many OS mobile platforms, i would like to know: first of all im currently with T-Mobile US Prepaid Iphone 4.0.1 Jailbroken and unlocked
i would like to know should i stay with T-Mo and get an android phone with them, or get the EVO 4G and go with Sprint?
what do you guys think cause i want a fast and reliable phone
thanks in advanced
Depends on where you live. If Sprint is faster and more reliable in your area go with that, and vice versa.
Now if you are in NYC, then thats a whole different story because all the carriers here suck. lol
Evo? You mean that phone that they cloned after our beloved HD2 that we had in 2009? In your case since your on TMoUS I say you get MT4G or G2. Its almost same so see which you like as G2 has keyboard, also stay away from SamSUX device like old.Vibrant 4G or Nexus S.
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Yep, G2 is awesome, and I'm unlocked on AT&T. lol
I'd rather an EVO 4G,
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/1...going-away-all-users-pushed-onto-shared-data/
I knew Big Red would find a way eventually, didn't think it would have been this soon.
For now it is only those on 3G with 3G phones but everyone else will soon follow. Sprint is looking good about now.
Quite sad of what Big Red is doing. Looks like ATT is my next best choice for coverage since T-Mobile still has 2G in my area and Sprint has 3G and ATT has 4G also.
This makes the news yesterday about Google possibly selling unlocked "Nexus" devices in the Play Store all the more interesting. Then pick your carrier. I see a possible loophole if by some miracle there are CDMA/LTE Nexus devices I will never have to re-up my contract. That looks how to be only way to keep unlimited at this point is never renewing or upgrading phone through Verizon once they have this bullsh*t program in full swing.
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This makes the news yesterday about Google possibly selling unlocked "Nexus" devices in the Play Store all the more interesting. Then pick your carrier. I see a possible loophole if by some miracle there are CDMA/LTE Nexus devices I will never have to re-up my contract. That looks how to be only way to keep unlimited at this point is never renewing or upgrading phone through Verizon once they have this bullsh*t program in full swing.
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Sadly, They only sell GSM phones for now which needs to change. But, they said in the post that everybody will eventually be forced into a "shared" plan that even not upgrading they'll still put you into one from my understanding unless I missed something.
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Sadly, They only sell GSM phones for now which needs to change. But, they said in the post that everybody will eventually be forced into a "shared" plan that even not upgrading they'll still put you into one from my understanding unless I missed something.
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Damn.. just looked at the Play Store and didn't know they would have that up so fast. BUT the good news is they are going to have Nexus phones and tablets about 5 different NEW devices and not just Motorola so I will have to keep an eye out. My contract isn't over with til 2013 anyways. Hoping by then for a 4.3-4.5" Motorola Droid 5 or variant with full QWERTY which is my dream phone right now. I cannot go to a 4.0" phone after 4.3" but I miss the physical QWERTY of my D1.
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Damn.. just looked at the Play Store and didn't know they would have that up so fast. BUT the good news is they are going to have Nexus phones and tablets about 5 different NEW devices and not just Motorola so I will have to keep an eye out. My contract isn't over with til 2013 anyways. Hoping by then for a 4.3-4.5" Motorola Droid 5 or variant with full QWERTY which is my dream phone right now. I cannot go to a 4.0" phone after 4.3" but I miss the physical QWERTY of my D1.
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Mine isn't over till Summer of 2013 but I was planning on stealing one of my family members upgrade plans since they have one this coming November which is exactly the time when the new Nexus phones come out but I'll have to see if me and my family stick around with Verizon until then. Also, the Droid 4 has a physical qwerty keyboard which I'm not sure how people can use a physical keyboard (I had a physical keyboard before this phone) and I've messed around on the physical keyboard and It feels so weird to even type on it when I use to be able to type paragraphs in seconds on that phone without even looking at the keyboard.
Here is another article with a little clarification...
http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2012/0...-plan-unless-you-buy-a-new-subsidized-device/
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Went into the Verizon store near me and asked them about it and they said that they don't even know about only through customers coming in. He said that corporate sent them an email saying they haven't released anything yet on it.
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lol.. my experience the Verizon Store employees don't ever know anything
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lol.. my experience the Verizon Store employees don't ever know anything
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Or they just play stupid.
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lol.. my experience the Verizon Store employees don't ever know anything
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Lol that's true.
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More than likely they are in the know, they are just directed to play stupid as being knowledgeable does nothing to help their bottom line or store sales.
If I lose my unlimited, I'm going to leave Verizon and go to some bootleg company like Boost. I hate Sprint so will never go back to them.
I pay what I pay for the 3 lines that I have because I like ny unlimited. I lose that...how about it don't be worth the money anymore. I'd rather pay $50 a phone with boost or cricket or metropcs.
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Interesting article
Thanks for the article; it will be interesting to see if Verizon does indeed follow through with eliminating the grandfathering of unlimited data plan. This is one of the features my wife and I both love.
I went to Verizon yesterday and the guy said he's heard about it but he's never gotten any official thing that he said if it is implemented it'll be at the end of the year or somewhere around there.
This whole thing is weird to me...
We have US Cellular out here, and if they can get a few more phone options I may just go with them. Everyone I talk to says they are a breeze to deal with and the network is good enough to work with.
So, I'm on tmobile, ad want to switch because it's too expensive for a phone I don't like that much (Mytouch 4g slide; crappy keyboard, sense infected 2.3, glitchy, etc.) I was thinking of witching to Boost mobile because they are cheaper, and have the Samsung transform Ultra, which despite being "low end" works great software wise and is stock, good keyboard, I know this from experience.
But then i thought about the Droid 4. I might be able to stomach the capacitive front keys (maybe) and its pretty high end. so I figure i'd try it, but I see it's GSM is not unlocked for US GSM carriers yet. but i wonder, would it be possible to unlock for Boost? that's a Sprint subsidiary, if that helps.
Also, Looking up info, I see there's supposed to be an international GSM version coming out, the XT898, announced a few months ago but nothing else announced yet that i've seen. anyone know about that?
P.S. does the mobile Chrome browser work on the Droid 4? It works on My iconia tab but not my 4g slide, so I figure it's an issue with the firmware version.
*edit* meant to say "this phone" in the title. damn arthritis. this is why I need a better keyboard.
Seems like some folks have been able to move Verizon CDMA phones to Sprint's network in the past. Have no idea how difficult that would be for the D4.
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Alright so I've been looking around on various Android forums and people seem to be very upset that there is no CDMA variant of the Nexus 4 announced so far. Coming from the Sprint/Verizon Galaxy Nexus, I am glad that they're not bothering this time around because CDMA goes against what the Nexus brand stands for, openness.
These carriers are very self-contained. You can only purchase phones to use on their network from them. Want a unlocked phone? You're out of luck BUT you can purchase the phone from their website off contract or you can go and get one from eBay or Craigslist. Because of this, the carriers have manufacturers by the balls, especially when it comes to updating phones. Want to get an update? You'll have to wait until these carriers "inspect" the update to ensure that it is not "harmful to the network" and all that PR crap they go on and on about.
Anyways, CDMA would mean that Google/LG would have to make a 4G LTE variant since these carriers only sell 4G phones now and Google doesn't seem too happy about how the CDMA variants of the GNex turned out last time. The updates were untimely to say the absolute least and the battery life was horrendous. I'm sure that the guys at Google had one hell of a time disputing against the crapware that Verizon/Sprint wanted to put on their phones so they could get a quick buck from Blockbuster and whatever other useless advertisements and applications they put on there now days.
If you want a Nexus phone, jump over to another carrier. I'm finally going over to T-Mobile and I'm getting unlimited data/text and a hundred minutes (which won't be used because I use GrooVe for voice over data/WiFi) for $30 a month. The entire move is going to cost me less than $400 and I'm sure you all have phones that you could sell to get over here. It really is the better move and the HSPA+ is amazingly fast without the battery drain.
My only option for a carrier is Verizon or sprint. At&t and T-Mobile only have gprs where my grandparents live, and I need internet for work. I'm upset there isn't a CDMA variant.
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I'm pretty excited about making the move to GSM and prepaid service. Any smartphone I've ever had was either Sprint and now Verizon. I can't even get an hour and a half of on-screen time with my Verizon gnex. It'll constantly switch from 3g to LTE and most of the time get stuck in the middle, looking for signal and draining the battery, it's horrendous.
I'm glad that there isn't a CDMA variant because CDMA is dead-end technology, and anything that brings about its demise sooner is a good thing IMO. Whatever the original technical merits were that CDMA held over GSM have pretty much become nonexistent as I understand it, and you give up the huge advantage of being able to easily switch carriers without purchasing a new phone. Anyone who's spent time outside the US and in an open GSM phone system knows how nice it is to be able to switch carriers at will.
But also Google's rationale for not including LTE makes a lot more sense with no CDMA variant. As the OP mentioned, a CDMA variant would absolutely HAVE to have LTE. Verizon's EV-DO network is still Rev. A, right? That's disgustingly slow in today's day and age, and while it makes sense that the CDMA carriers would have skipped over later revisions of EV-DO and go straight to LTE, it also means they're in an "LTE or bust" situation right now. GSM networks have a much better upgrade path, and 42mbps HSPA+ is more than fast enough for just about anything you'd want to do on a phone.
Personally I'm happy with the decision, because as a GSM user I see no need to frantically jump on the LTE bandwagon. I'd much rather take better battery life and a lower phone cost than have a transmission standard that is overkill for the vast majority of phone applications forced down my throat.
You all don't remember that GSM Nexus devices always come out first. CDMA phones will most likely come out months later, and with higher storage to generate buzz. Google knows better than to shut out ~20 million subscribers.
I'm pretty confident they are offering such low priced unlocked phones to try and get as many people into their ecosystem as possible. Ignoring CDMA users is not consistent with that, so just like before, it'll likely be 1 to 5 months before we see 32gb CDMA phones later on.
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You all don't remember that GSM Nexus devices always come out first. CDMA phones will most likely come out months later, and with higher storage to generate buzz. Google knows better than to shut out ~20 million subscribers.
I'm pretty confident they are offering such low priced unlocked phones to try and get as many people into their ecosystem as possible. Ignoring CDMA users is not consistent with that, so just like before, it'll likely be 1 to 5 months before we see 32gb CDMA phones later on.
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While I get where you're coming from, I completely disagree. Of course, I'm with a GSM carrier (and always have been), so I couldn't care less if they come out with a CDMA Nexus 4. Then again, I'm one of those people that don't believe the Galaxy Nexus offered by Verizon and Sprint was an actual Nexus device. If a phone's updates are coming from a carrier and not straight from Google...that's not a true Nexus and, frankly, you get what you deserve for thinking it is (in general terms...I'm not talking about you specifically).
I think all the reasons listed earlier are correct. I think Google got a bad taste in their mouths from having the carriers (re: Verizon and Sprint) dictate to them what they were going to do instead of the other way around. I also agree that CDMA is a dying technology and I'm also all for anything that bring that about faster. Wireless companies in the US need to get their #[email protected]% together and agree on a standard. All this GSM/CDMA/LTE crap is just confusing to consumers (not to me, but to uneducated consumers).
I firmly believe, though, that if you want a Nexus phone you need to get with a GSM carrier. Period. If by some miracle Google does release a CDMA version of the Nexus 4 later, I'll still believe you don't have a "true" Nexus phone. Only when the carriers have their hands off the updates can you actually make me believe a CDMA Nexus is a "real" Nexus.
I've been looking at the pre paid services but I have two lines since I pay for my mothers phone.
With the 1000 minute family plans it ends up making more sense for me to go that route since I'd get 2 free galaxy S2's.. One for her and I'd sell the other + my Sprint Galaxy s2 on eBay for my N4...
Very excited about moving back to T-mob after being on Sprint with **** service in my area for almost a year.
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Hey I am a long time Verizon GS3 and droid x user living in south east Florida and I am thinking about switching over to att. I have been doing a lot of research both on att and the new moto x and I believe that's what I am going to do. I see a lot has been done with att network in the last year or two and the next is a better deal than Verizon's and the plan is $15 cheaper for individual until my wife's contract is over in Oct. So....should I switch? Has the network really gotten better? Good customer service? Good prices? Give me some feedback on your att experience....I have a big decision to make by Friday. My GS3 broke last week and my bday is tomorrow and I am dying with my wife's cracked screen thunderbolt from 3 years ago...lol Thanks.
Oh yeah..should I do the motomaker? Seems really cool but I will have to wait another week or two...lol
What back materials hold up? I kinda like the wood...heard the leather scratches and might not hold up?
That's a lot of questions in one thread lol.
Happy birthday first of all and here are my .02 cents.
If I were to do it again, I'd go with AIO wireless or some other cheap carrier. AIO or whatever it is called is actually on AT&T network and has everything you need. You just have to buy your own phone which IMHO is much better anyways. No need to sign a contract. Phones are beyond locked down and too much bloat. Get pure version of X through moto maker and go with $45 a month plan. IMHO, that's the way to go.
Hope that helps.
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I had Verizon once hated every thing about them, still do. Where I'm at and places I travel to have pretty good AT&T coverage. I'm a multi phone user and I can switch them for certain situations, S4 Active for hunting and fishing trips, N5, Moto X '13 and '14 because of Motorolas radios and the experience, iPhone 5 for Facetime. This is a decision you will have to make for yourself based upon what is important for you. As far as back plates, wood and leather scratch but can both be repaired/retreated easily. I went with standard soft touch because I'll end up putting a skin on, hopefully blue camo like my N5.
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Maybe as long as you get good AT&T signal. I personally think it's better to get the Pure version over AT&T version even though it lacks a few AT&T LTE bands, it should support enough of their LTE bands that as long as you live in big enough city you'll still get good coverage. Most people should have no problem. I still think it's worth it over AT&T crapwares, locked bootloader, locked sim, slower udpates and lower resale value. You could test their coverage by using an AT&T MVNO like Cricket for just one month, and later sign a contract if you really want to.
As for "good customer service". I have dealt with AT&T in the past and I can only express my opinion about them using vulgar languages.
Check local signal. If AT&T has good coverage (they do in most of US, close to Verizon's) then go with a pure on Cricket or AIO for the best price.