Continued battery drain issue (Stats and math incl.) - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was having an issue before that would drain my battery even when the phone was idle, but I found out that it was because the phone was trying to connect between 2G and 3G networks and somehow that was a huge problem. Now it barely loses any power when on standby, so that's good.
But I have another problem. While doing something normal, such as browsing the web for 5 minutes, the battery will drain about 5 to 10%. I think that's pretty bad. Shouldn't it only be like 2%? Not even that I think.
2% every 5 minutes of normal use. 100/2 = 50 * 5 = 250 minutes /60 = 4.1 hours of battery life.
Isn't the G1 supposed to have 6 to 8 hours? And mine is running out about 5% from 5 minutes of just browsing the internet.
Here's some stats from Spare Parts > Battery History:
Other Usage
Since last unplugged
Running (40.7%)
Screen on (22.7%)
Wifi On (50.3%)
Wifi Running (50.2%)
All red bars.
What does this mean? I heard red bars were bad, how can I fix this?

Running is down to 7% and Screen on is at about 6% I think, still red bars. Any ideas still? I've since calibrated my phone and it's obviously better, but not as good as it seems to be for some people who report 14 hours with normal use.
It's at 57% right now with about an hour, maybe two, of use in total. i.e. browser, gensoid, downloading a few apps, and looking around the settings and apps in general.
I'm pretty disappointed seeing as how some people are saying they browsed the internet and listened to music throughout the day and got 12 hours of life out of it. I'm going to try a different ROM after I test the total time browsing and playing tomorrow.
I'm just going to browse the internet and play games or listen to music with it until it dies to test how long it lasts. I'll report back with the time, it probably won't be long.

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Running is down to 7% and Screen on is at about 6% I think, still red bars. Any ideas still? I've since calibrated my phone and it's obviously better, but not as good as it seems to be for some people who report 14 hours with normal use.
It's at 57% right now with about an hour, maybe two, of use in total. i.e. browser, gensoid, downloading a few apps, and looking around the settings and apps in general.
I'm pretty disappointed seeing as how some people are saying they browsed the internet and listened to music throughout the day and got 12 hours of life out of it. I'm going to try a different ROM after I test the total time browsing and playing tomorrow.
I'm just going to browse the internet and play games or listen to music with it until it dies to test how long it lasts. I'll report back with the time, it probably won't be long.
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CM 5.0.8? I just flashed and my battery life is doing the same thing... hell, I took it into the bathroom with me to read some RSS feeds and it said it had 81%, shut itself off, and pretended it was already dead.
I'm about to flash a diff ROM to see if that does the trick, and i've seen other people having the same issue with CM. I might have a dead battery too but it seems so sudden...

My friend sent me this phone less than a week ago and he said it was fine before he sent it to me. I never got the problem where it shuts off at stupid times.
I'm currently running the latest SuperBad, which is based off CM 5.0.8. I just flashed to it today, here are some stats:
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100% 12:40 AM
88% 12:50 AM
75% 01:10 AM
From 12:50 to 1:10 I felt like I was using it more heavily than from 12:40 to 12:50, so that was kind of weird. It even heated up more. I guess it's better now to some extent, but it's still a problem.
40 minutes for 25% battery is still kind of messed up. That's still only 2.6 hours of continued use. Yeah, that's pretty bad. I can text people throughout the day, but what about calls? How long can I make them for? I remember talking to someone for 5 hours straight before I had to plug in my old HTC Titan.
EDIT: I forgot to add that it barely runs out at all when on sleep mode. I went to sleep with it at 44% last night and I woke up with 44%. Then I texted my friend a few times and it went down to 40%, no joke.

I just bought a new battery for mine and the difference is night and day. I think the battery on the G1 is 2 plus years old now and that is their lifespan. All the recent 2.1 roms have put extra strain on them and the batteries are failing as they a past their sell by dates.
Seriously try a new battery - can be had for a fiver on eBay.

I honestly doubt the battery has gone bad; two weeks ago it was doing fine in my friend's hands.
Here are some stats from yesterday:
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100% 12:40 AM
88% 12:50 AM
75% 1:10 AM
--- (sleep)
74% 2:47 AM
66% 3:00 AM
--- (sleep)
64% 9:35 AM
59% 9:37 AM
58% 9:42 AM (sleep)
54% 9:45 AM
51% 9:50 AM
41% 10:00 AM (game)
40% 10:01 AM
39% 10:31 AM (sleep)
38% 11:37 AM (while sleeping)
31% 11:43 AM (settings)
0% while sleeping
I downloaded an app called System Panel and supposedly it's going to help me figure out what's using up my battery over time. Maybe there's something in there messing it up. If anyone knows how to use it or has some instructions, go ahead and link me

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Battery problem

I've updated to DOC & Kalpik's new v6 from 5.1.1, and charged 100% before I went to sleep. In the morning(6,5 hours) the battery was 79% with screen off, wifi on(never sleep).
Even if wifi was on, I don't think it's normal(3g should eat more), so I wiped the system. Now I'll put the applications back day by day, and let you, and other people know what eats the battery.
Okay, a bit of an update:
If in 6 hours battery dropped 20%, battery should drop 3% in 1 hour. I was letting phone alone for 1 hour, and battery dropped 4%!!!!
Completely new system, it's newly wiped v6. Spare parts says: running 30%, screen on: 30%. No app, that uses cpu too much.
Installed applications:
- Spare part, Swiftkey keyboard, Astro, Battery indicator, autokiller.
wifi on : never sleep. Stock adw.
Any idea what eats the battery? I just wiped the system from clockwork!!
Froyo, that's what.
sturmeh said:
Froyo, that's what.
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Is it?
With Doc's rom it shouldn't be a problem. It's highly optimised to battery consumption. I remember having version 5f of that ROM, and battery life was excellent! I don't know what happened...
1% battery drain every 3 MINUTES
One more thing I have to add:
I have 1% battery drain every 3 MINUTES if I'm browsing stock browser. Now that's waaaaaay too much!
What I do wrong?? Or is it normal?!
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Samsung Froyo, that's what.
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Fixed. 10char.
Battery life
I managed 6 days straight hehe with old style phone use, no gaming, no serfing, just 5-10min call time avg per day, a bt headset connected 5hrs avg per day, screen brightnes set to auto. Just once connected over wifi to download 1-2 apps and 10mb files. Fully charged on Saturday around 1pm, empty battery today about 2pm. While idle the battery drops 1% every 6hrs.
Won't do it again though, cause this is not what the phone is made for , i realy missed it during this test
You will get 1% per 3 minutes of high cpu and screen use (browsing)
It ends up at about 100-0% in 5 hours
That is what I usually get out of my battery on all firmwares, watching video's last longer though, 6+ hours
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i have the same problem...
last week when i was testing doc/kalpik's or 2.1 rom i got 3% out of 6hrs standby.
last night it drained 25% on sleep! (maybe sleep is disabled somehow? or a tweak that is preventing it from sleeping properly?)
anywho.. before all this happened i noticed that the phone started to lagg (not the normal pause or two.. you could not do anything without it lagging..) it started to drain the battery (1% every 1-2min, screen on but not doing anything).. it went back to normal when i disabled usb debugging mode.. (very strange)
maybe there is a fix to this?
cheers

Very less battery drain, what did I do to make this change?

Last 3 weeks or so I have been optimizing to save battery power, read most of the thread but the best I could get was 12-16 hrs, surprisingly today last 12 hrs since I charged it fully, it has ONLY consumed 27% till now, daily usage include checking mails & making calls & xda forum browsing mostly.
I am concerned as to what made my battery so good suddenly as I want to follow the same foot steps, only thing i did differently is that I completely switched off phone (1st time ever while charging) for 2 hrs when the phone was charging.................could that be the reason for so good battery life?
After 24 hrs it shows 38% left (2hrs of extensive use in the morning with music in background), that is unbelievable to me, can someone help as to suddenly what is making this battery life so long?
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can someone help as to suddenly what is making this battery life so long?
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Your past good karmas
im getting an avg backup of 2 days, with some music, camera and internet.
Maybe the telecomms station in your area just got upgraded?
I barely get through the day.
My usage is when my screen is on refresh all my mails. thats is
My internet use is hardly 1 hr and no music/game for the fear of my battery.
Today in 4 hrs i've lost out 15% battery.
What can i do here..please suggest.

Battery life and Charging time

I've owned the Samsung Focus S now for 12 days. I came from an android bionic. I have owned Windows Phones before, the Venue Pro and the Hd7. But this is my first Samsung.
For the first few days, the battery life was fine, a full day. But this past week I find my self hard pressed to reach a full work day. I don't play music during the day nor do I have many, if any calls. Mostly SMS and internet.
I've turned off as many background tasks as acceptable, limited the number of live tiles, set brightness to auto, and check email off of push. Yet this morning I reached 20% in about 8 hours.
In addition, I find the time to charge is extremely long. It might take 4-6 hours to fully charge from 80%.
Is this normal for a Samsung?? My other windows phones, and my bionic certainly do no present the same battery problems as this one does.
Thoughts, or is this usual?
Do you have wi-fi turned on? This is a real battery burner...
My Focus S usually goes through about a day and a half before I need to recharge. That's with a few phone calls, some messages, a bit of wi-fi browsing at night, etc. Email only gets checked every hour but it's on 3 different accounts.
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Do you have wi-fi turned on? This is a real battery burner...
My Focus S usually goes through about a day and a half before I need to recharge. That's with a few phone calls, some messages, a bit of wi-fi browsing at night, etc. Email only gets checked every hour but it's on 3 different accounts.
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while I'm home WiFi is on. Away from home its off. This is normal behavior for all my phones. All of them last at least 18-24 hrs, under the same condition.
Took it back to art. They said , lets try a different battery. I'm willing to try it for now.
I just wanted to add to this as I seem to be experiencing a similar issue.
I purchased my phone at the end of Dec, it's been great.
Now, since around a week ago I've been having issues. I used to get roughly 2 days use per charge and it used to charge quickly.
Now, the phone runs hot, the battery drains in 6 hours or less, and it takes many hours to recharge.
I turned off the one app running in the background. I turned off wi-fi. It doesn't seem to help. The battery itself doesn't seem to be too hot, but it's hard to judge.
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I just wanted to add to this as I seem to be experiencing a similar issue.
I purchased my phone at the end of Dec, it's been great.
Now, since around a week ago I've been having issues. I used to get roughly 2 days use per charge and it used to charge quickly.
Now, the phone runs hot, the battery drains in 6 hours or less, and it takes many hours to recharge.
I turned off the one app running in the background. I turned off wi-fi. It doesn't seem to help. The battery itself doesn't seem to be too hot, but it's hard to judge.
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I did a factory reset, and got a new battery. I then reinstalled less than half of my existing apps. In addition I've set my display brightness to medium.
Battery life has doubled, and the charging is much quicker.
Read an article yesterday about ads in free apps eating about 35% more battery. Who knows.
Even if they're running in the background? My Focus S takes a lot of time to charge and decharges so fast. 35% is no joke.
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Even if they're running in the background? My Focus S takes a lot of time to charge and discharges so fast. 35% is no joke.
I'm also having some kind of battery issue, I have 2 batteries and they are both 100% charged but by the end of the day one is completely dead and the other is about 20%. I use my phone a lot for music and browsing over 4g and WiFi, but I charge by battery to 100% then go to the battery saver setting and at 100% it says time remaining about 5 hours. An when I turn on battery saver it says about 6 hours. On a full charge this seems crazy. Also with the homebrew battery monitor app. It says my phone is using over 4000mV. With screen set to low and in airplane mode. This is wierd.
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I'm also having some kind of battery issue, I have 2 batteries and they are both 100% charged but by the end of the day one is completely dead and the other is about 20%. I use my phone a lot for music and browsing over 4g and WiFi, but I charge by battery to 100% then go to the battery saver setting and at 100% it says time remaining about 5 hours. An when I turn on battery saver it says about 6 hours. On a full charge this seems crazy. Also with the homebrew battery monitor app. It says my phone is using over 4000mV. With screen set to low and in airplane mode. This is wierd.
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4000mV? I assume you mean mA? not mV? 4000mV is only 4V which is about right, your voltage shouldn't change much, perhaps +-10% tops
if you do in fact mean Amps...
4000mA is 4A an hour, your battery would be dead in about 20 min at that rate and probably in fire as well
So, lets look at this in a different way,
2 batteries, that's about 3.3Ah max, you only had about 20% left in one which is approx 330mA so lets call it an even 3A of juice burned during your day.
An Average long day at work 12 hours
that's 250mAh current draw every single hour of that 12 hour day.
250 is quite high, but normal with the screen on and high brightness an wifi, however that isn't normal if you are normal and don't sit at your phone each hour for an hour for a whole day.
Things that can send your phone off on a amp burning spree? most common one is the backlight, set it to auto, and have a dark /black theme, AMOLED is the opposite to normal LCD screens where having a white background was best,
Next up is your signal strength, low 3G signal will eat your battery (4G is worse but thankfully we don't have that)
keep battery saving on all the time, it only kicks in when it needs to but I have seen dramatic differences having it turned off even with a full battery, im not sure what it changes when its not down to low battery but it does something.
background tasks can play a part but are minimal on WP.
I have 3 accounts on push sync, wifi and Bluetooth always on (but not always connected), I use it a lot during the day including several phone calls and web browsing, I start work at 8am, finish at 7 or 8 PM and im still sitting with 50% battery...
that works out at an average of just under 70mAh. that's about the normal level id expect, its double that if I turn battery saver off (even though it wont kick in until the last hour of the day)
oh I can make it go quicker when I show off the full capability's of our screens too

Battery taking a nose dive since 4.4.2?

Not sure whats going on but the battery on my Note 3 is horrible since the update. I fully charge it and 1 hr later (not even using it) I've lost 5-10%. It barely last the whole day now. I've even wiped the device and it continues to happen. Doing a quick test right now, fully charged its been off the battery for 20 mins and I'm showing 27% usage on the Android System, 10% on the Android OS and 15% of the screen and its down to 97% already.
Any ideas?
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Not sure whats going on but the battery on my Note 3 is horrible since the update. I fully charge it and 1 hr later (not even using it) I've lost 5-10%. It barely last the whole day now. I've even wiped the device and it continues to happen. Doing a quick test right now, fully charged its been off the battery for 20 mins and I'm showing 27% usage on the Android System, 10% on the Android OS and 15% of the screen and its down to 97% already.
Any ideas?
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things to try: (no this isnt a 'disable anything useful like email and google plus' post )
1. camera - there is some well documented issue, if you open the camera app, there is some kind of battery drain going on. google it, there is tons of reading material for it. temp fix is reset.
2. I have noticed google now makes my battery life do what yours does, drop 10% easy in an hour of it being completely idle. open the app, disable google now, and then see what is going on. i hate disabling anything but its worked for me.
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things to try: (no this isnt a 'disable anything useful like email and google plus' post )
1. camera - there is some well documented issue, if you open the camera app, there is some kind of battery drain going on. google it, there is tons of reading material for it. temp fix is reset.
2. I have noticed google now makes my battery life do what yours does, drop 10% easy in an hour of it being completely idle. open the app, disable google now, and then see what is going on. i hate disabling anything but its worked for me.
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Thanks after a second reset it seems much better. Maybe it was one of my Apps? For now I'll just install them 1 at a time.
howie411 said:
Not sure whats going on but the battery on my Note 3 is horrible since the update. I fully charge it and 1 hr later (not even using it) I've lost 5-10%. It barely last the whole day now. I've even wiped the device and it continues to happen. Doing a quick test right now, fully charged its been off the battery for 20 mins and I'm showing 27% usage on the Android System, 10% on the Android OS and 15% of the screen and its down to 97% already.
Any ideas?
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Same thing happened to mine. Went to bed at 95%, killed all apps, empty ram, turn off data but left wifi on. Woke up 8 hours later and it was down to 17%. Unprecedented 10% hour drain. Usuallly it drains 3 -5 percent overnight. Same thing happened to wife's phone and she is on Sprint but she left wifi and data on. Uninstalled Google camera and Skype and notice it went away. Testing it again tonight.
Edit: Test it again last night. 4% drop in 8 hours. Woke up to 96% this morning. Hopefully that fixed the problem.
Update: Went to bed at 11:30 at 68% and woke up 7 hours later and battery is still showing 68%! Surf the web for 5 minutes before battery drop to 67%. Amazing standby battery drain. I had turn off wifi, bluetooth, and data before going to bed and killed all the apps. Usually this will cause a .5%/hour drain but it barely drain .5% in 7 hours this time!

Battery Life

I can't believe how incredible the battery life is on my Sprint Note 4. To give you a real world example of what I'm talking about...I'm a ups guy and stream Sirius over my phone to my wireless boombox all day while I'm delivering. My previous android phone on a full charge would get me to about 1PM before needing to charge the phone from this streaming.
With my Note 4 today I started streaming sirius at about 8:30am this morning and streamed it non stop all day for 10 hours. While streaming I also browsed the internet on lunch for about 40 minutes of screen on time for that. I then made about 40 minutes of phone calls after work on the way home. After all of that...I still have 60% battery life left without any charging today.
Man I love this phone!
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I can't believe how incredible the battery life is on my Sprint Note 4. To give you a real world example of what I'm talking about...I'm a ups guy and stream Sirius over my phone to my wireless boombox all day while I'm delivering. My previous android phone on a full charge would get me to about 1PM before needing to charge the phone from this streaming.
With my Note 4 today I started streaming sirius at about 8:30am this morning and streamed it non stop all day for 10 hours. While streaming I also browsed the internet on lunch for about 40 minutes of screen on time for that. I then made about 40 minutes of phone calls after work on the way home. After all of that...I still have 60% battery life left without any charging today.
Man I love this phone!
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tried ultra battery saver mode for the first few days and made it from 100% to 25% in 2 days and 4 hours with ultra on and off. then played a game for about 7 hours and it drained my battery 50%. Damn impressive
Not sure what to make of mine, I lost 10% in an hour, most of that was when I was driving!
Hmmm, but then I do seem to have a lag issue like others seem to be having too?
tinker_tf said:
Not sure what to make of mine, I lost 10% in an hour, most of that was when I was driving!
Hmmm, but then I do seem to have a lag issue like others seem to be having too?
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It's either something you have installed or how you have your preferences set. I turn off wifi & gps except when I'm using them (both for battery and privacy purposes).
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Not sure what to make of mine, I lost 10% in an hour, most of that was when I was driving!
Hmmm, but then I do seem to have a lag issue like others seem to be having too?
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Reloead some screenshots of the battery for more info and in better quality because I can't see this one.
UPSGuy said:
I can't believe how incredible the battery life is on my Sprint Note 4. To give you a real world example of what I'm talking about...I'm a ups guy and stream Sirius over my phone to my wireless boombox all day while I'm delivering. My previous android phone on a full charge would get me to about 1PM before needing to charge the phone from this streaming.
With my Note 4 today I started streaming sirius at about 8:30am this morning and streamed it non stop all day for 10 hours. While streaming I also browsed the internet on lunch for about 40 minutes of screen on time for that. I then made about 40 minutes of phone calls after work on the way home. After all of that...I still have 60% battery life left without any charging today.
Man I love this phone!
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I simply can't agree more dude the batt life on this beast is simply incredible I'm averaging around 13-15hours off charge with 6-7hours On Screen, take note (pun intended ) that when I put it on charge when I go to bed I still have well over 25% battery remaining, its simply incredible, even for us heavy users.
Must have a lemon
I have had my phone for about 3 days and I charge it to 100% before going to bed. When I wake up the battery life has dropped all the way into the 60s. before this phone I had a note 2 and this is way worse than it was. Screen was obviously off all night. Any suggestions appreciated!
wedgie321 said:
I have had my phone for about 3 days and I charge it to 100% before going to bed. When I wake up the battery life has dropped all the way into the 60s. before this phone I had a note 2 and this is way worse than it was. Screen was obviously off all night. Any suggestions appreciated!
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It all depends on what you have running in the background. Push notifications? I've frozen all bloatware and turned off push. Is your wifi on maybe? gps? I leave mine unplugged all night (12 hours) and it goes down 3%
UPSGuy said:
I can't believe how incredible the battery life is on my Sprint Note 4. To give you a real world example of what I'm talking about...I'm a ups guy and stream Sirius over my phone to my wireless boombox all day while I'm delivering. My previous android phone on a full charge would get me to about 1PM before needing to charge the phone from this streaming.
With my Note 4 today I started streaming sirius at about 8:30am this morning and streamed it non stop all day for 10 hours. While streaming I also browsed the internet on lunch for about 40 minutes of screen on time for that. I then made about 40 minutes of phone calls after work on the way home. After all of that...I still have 60% battery life left without any charging today.
Man I love this phone!
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Did you install anything special like Greenify? Did you use any of the extra battery saving modes? What is your screen brightness set to?
I think the Sprint version is the Snapdragon, not Exynos, right?
I absolutely loved my Note 2 battery life, but this Note 4 battery life surpasses my Note 2 by a fair margin. I am one happy camper.
Edit: Sprint SD version.
I'm getting less battery life than I expected with my Exynos note 4. I just got out of bed and unplugged it , and used it for about 15 mins to browse tapatalk and email and etc. And in that 15 mins I lost 5% .
I also noticed a high Android System in my usage. Any thoughts on what could be causing this?
This is screen cap.
Mine today
Im only plugging in now at 24% because im going to bed.... actually i have a second battery i might let it run overnight
Pretty good
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If you have battery issues, make sure you are not syncing to drop box or google photo back up all times. For example, I use photos to back up all my photos but in the settings I have it only back up when plugged in to the charger. Hopefully this might help someone.
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Did you install anything special like Greenify? Did you use any of the extra battery saving modes? What is your screen brightness set to?
I think the Sprint version is the Snapdragon, not Exynos, right?
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Nothing special installed for battery life and not using the power saving modes. I keep the screen set to auto brightness when at work, but put it on max brightness at home on the weekends when I know I have chargers available because I love the nice bright display. Yes, I have Sprint which has the Snapdragon 805.
I turn off GPS & Wifi when I'm working for battery saving & privacy purposes, but leave bluetooth on all day. I don't have my microsoft email auto synced, but have gmail pushed.
Here are the results from today (attached). Still well over half a battery left after midnight.

			
				
To all the people with battery woes-
Pause your pedometer in s health and remove pedometer from lock screen(of course if you don't use it much). It saves a hell lot of battery. It did at least on my SD805 note 4.. I am a heavy user with 3g on all day but never run out of juice. Screen on time averages 7-8 hours daily with browsing/playing games/chatting. I have wifi, synch and gps off when i am not using them.
And yeah i charge every morning, but have never seen my battery less than 39% when i charge lol. This beast is incredible. *super satisfied*

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