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Although not new to android I am new to the idea of internet tethering from my android device.
In all honesty, I have never used it so I don't understand it, therefore I'm confused.
I have free internet included in my price plan. Will tethering go outside this and cause charges from my service provider?
Also atm I'm using CM 5.0.7 test 1 on my g1 which has tethering in the settings menu. Will this work for games consoles such as the wii?
bruce_wayne said:
Although not new to android I am new to the idea of internet tethering from my android device.
In all honesty, I have never used it so I don't understand it, therefore I'm confused.
I have free internet included in my price plan. Will tethering go outside this and cause charges from my service provider?
Also atm I'm using CM 5.0.7 test 1 on my g1 which has tethering in the settings menu. Will this work for games consoles such as the wii?
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Most providers have "soft caps" regarding data usage that seems above the normal use on your account. T-Mobile offers the "unlimited" data plan, but they also will provide you with much slower internet speeds if your account usage goes over a certain amount. This is why it is referred to as a soft cap.
As far as using if with your gaming console, my experience is that you are going to get 3G speeds while tethering (obviously) and while this is enough for light browsing on your laptop, I am sure its not enough for gaming or streaming. As far as the general "will it work" question, I doubt it because I think there are drivers required to be installed on the device you wish to tether.
DirectMatrix said:
Most providers have "soft caps" regarding data usage that seems above the normal use on your account. T-Mobile offers the "unlimited" data plan, but they also will provide you with much slower internet speeds if your account usage goes over a certain amount. This is why it is referred to as a soft cap.
As far as using if with your gaming console, my experience is that you are going to get 3G speeds while tethering (obviously) and while this is enough for light browsing on your laptop, I am sure its not enough for gaming or streaming. As far as the general "will it work" question, I doubt it because I think there are drivers required to be installed on the device you wish to tether.
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i recently tried the wifi tether with the 360 and it worked fine i found a spot in my house that got 3g and tested it. it took it a while because my phone kept on dying.
bruce_wayne said:
Although not new to android I am new to the idea of internet tethering from my android device.
In all honesty, I have never used it so I don't understand it, therefore I'm confused.
I have free internet included in my price plan. Will tethering go outside this and cause charges from my service provider?
Also atm I'm using CM 5.0.7 test 1 on my g1 which has tethering in the settings menu. Will this work for games consoles such as the wii?
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When you enable wifi tethering on your android device I am about 90% sure that it is an adhoc connection. And unless something has changed recently in the wii software, it doesn't support adhoc unless perhaps your connecting to another wii device. I could be wrong though.
Binary100100 said:
When you enable wifi tethering on your android device I am about 90% sure that it is an adhoc connection. And unless something has changed recently in the wii software, it doesn't support adhoc unless perhaps your connecting to another wii device. I could be wrong though.
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Not sure about Wii, but it has been confirmed multiple times that it will work with Xbox.
However, I find myself always stuck with one question.
Is it really worth it?
There's no way it can actually be fast enough to play a game decently.
thelistening said:
i recently tried the wifi tether with the 360 and it worked fine i found a spot in my house that got 3g and tested it. it took it a while because my phone kept on dying.
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It kept dying cause it was hooked to a 360. The phone would have stayed alive if it was connected to a ps3. lol.
And works fine on ps3
supremeteam256 said:
It kept dying cause it was hooked to a 360. The phone would have stayed alive if it was connected to a ps3. lol.
And works fine on ps3
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haha. there arent any good players on ps3 >:]
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haha. there arent any good players on ps3 >:]
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Just depends on what your playing. If you talkin Madden then you talkin to the right person.
madden isnt my game. so id suck off the bat.
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Has anyone gotten wireless tether to work on rooted Bionic yet? I can get connected, but it seems as though verizon's hotspot tries to start with it and thus blocking an IP from being given out and any internet tethering to my devices.
I was an avid user of wireless tether but please do not use it while still running stock rom. Verizon and motorola have security features built into the stock software to help them track people using what they consider illeagal tether apps. Please refrain from using such apps until there is a custom ROM released so as to avoid bringing us to the forefront of verizons attention. In the meantime use pdanet USB tether app located in market. It is important that we as a community stop using our knowledge to continue pushing carriers and handset manufacturers from locking us out completely. If we continue our current trend of outrite defiance in use of these wireless tether apps (wheather you think it should be ok or not is irrelevent until a court rules on it) we are only hurting ourselves in the long run. Please for now use pdanet or similar USB tether app as they are not frowned upon by carriers. If you need to know why here it is, USB apps allow only one device to be connected which limits bandwidth used at one time, wireless tethers allow you to run everything in your house simultatiously greatly increasing individual strain on the network and makeing the user experience for all worse in the long run as the network can only handle so much.
Well, there it all is, an informed public is a better public... Happy modding to all.
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yutzyscott said:
I was an avid user of wireless tether but please do not use it while still running stock rom. Verizon and motorola have security features built into the stock software to help them track people using what they consider illeagal tether apps. Please refrain from using such apps until there is a custom ROM released so as to avoid bringing us to the forefront of verizons attention. In the meantime use pdanet USB tether app located in market. It is important that we as a community stop using our knowledge to continue pushing carriers and handset manufacturers from locking us out completely. If we continue our current trend of outrite defiance in use of these wireless tether apps (wheather you think it should be ok or not is irrelevent until a court rules on it) we are only hurting ourselves in the long run. Please for now use pdanet or similar USB tether app as they are not frowned upon by carriers. If you need to know why here it is, USB apps allow only one device to be connected which limits bandwidth used at one time, wireless tethers allow you to run everything in your house simultatiously greatly increasing individual strain on the network and makeing the user experience for all worse in the long run as the network can only handle so much.
Well, there it all is, an informed public is a better public... Happy modding to all.
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What I have read is that this is a scare tactic, none of it is true. GL
yutzyscott said:
I was an avid user of wireless tether but please do not use it while still running stock rom. Verizon and motorola have security features built into the stock software to help them track people using what they consider illeagal tether apps. Please refrain from using such apps until there is a custom ROM released so as to avoid bringing us to the forefront of verizons attention. In the meantime use pdanet USB tether app located in market. It is important that we as a community stop using our knowledge to continue pushing carriers and handset manufacturers from locking us out completely. If we continue our current trend of outrite defiance in use of these wireless tether apps (wheather you think it should be ok or not is irrelevent until a court rules on it) we are only hurting ourselves in the long run. Please for now use pdanet or similar USB tether app as they are not frowned upon by carriers. If you need to know why here it is, USB apps allow only one device to be connected which limits bandwidth used at one time, wireless tethers allow you to run everything in your house simultatiously greatly increasing individual strain on the network and makeing the user experience for all worse in the long run as the network can only handle so much.
Well, there it all is, an informed public is a better public... Happy modding to all.
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Just curious, why would they frown upon wireless tether yet pdanet is "acceptable"? Either way you're bypassing the tethering charge. I can see how wifi tethering would lend itself to a greater amount of abuse as you could have multiple devices using it concurrently - but you can do that with pdanet as well with a little more effort. So I'm wondering how you reached this conclusion? Thanks.
Im confused as to how doing wifi connection is more of a burden than usb. Either connection you're bandwidth is still limited to your 3G or 4G service. On 3G my download speeds are around 3mbs. This is usb or wifi. Now that bing said. If i connect my computer by itself, I keep all this speed to myself. Connecting my wifes computer, xbox, etc. This doesn't bump ky speed to 3mbs per device. Now the 3 devices are sharing the 3mbs im able to connect at. So pleased enlighten me how usb is more acceptable than wifi? All you spam nothing but fear with no actual proof. This has been goingnon since the.DROID OG, and I still have read no proof, just scarce ramblings of people who think they know what they're talking about. P3Droid has stated that the tethering is coming to an end, and that they're getting smart enough to detect it, but still nothings happened yet. Usb or wifi you're "stealing" internet from Verizon, get over yourself and do it or don't.
This will probably only come when we get custom roms.
Wireless Tether
I have GOT to be able to use Wireless Tether on my Bionic. I had a D2 but am in limbo trying to get it back to stock so I just decided to order the Bionic, root it and use Wireless Tether because I really don't know what I am doing, have already spent WAY TOO much time trying to get my D2 to work and am VERY frustrated. :-(
I am hearing mixed messages. Does ANYONE have any experience with using it? I am going to use the D3 root method to access the app.
Thanks for any input anyone can give me!
Jeni
hurleygirlie05 said:
I have GOT to be able to use Wireless Tether on my Bionic. I had a D2 but am in limbo trying to get it back to stock so I just decided to order the Bionic, root it and use Wireless Tether because I really don't know what I am doing, have already spent WAY TOO much time trying to get my D2 to work and am VERY frustrated. :-(
I am hearing mixed messages. Does ANYONE have any experience with using it? I am going to use the D3 root method to access the app.
Thanks for any input anyone can give me!
Jeni
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Since tethering with a USB cord works, what's keeping you from doing that?
I've tried all the apps out there to no avail. According to what I've read, you'll havento have 2 separate programs on your computer and get into the actual coding on the antenna side of the phone to over ride this. Easy fix is keep a DROID that the tether works on, and activate it on myverizon.com, and deactivate it when you're done. It takes less than 2 minutes to do this. A headache, yes, but a simple fix till someone comes up with a patch or better way.
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I've tried all the apps out there to no avail. According to what I've read, you'll havento have 2 separate programs on your computer and get into the actual coding on the antenna side of the phone to over ride this. Easy fix is keep a DROID that the tether works on, and activate it on myverizon.com, and deactivate it when you're done. It takes less than 2 minutes to do this. A headache, yes, but a simple fix till someone comes up with a patch or better way.
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What? you can do that with your old phone, do u just dial *228 to activate it?
*288 works on older phones to program them to the 3G network for data and voice. I don't know how all the 4G phones are, but the bionic's programmed and roaming capabilities are done through a 4G sim card in the phone. The bionic wont even allow a *288 phone call to go through
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*288 works on older phones to program them to the 3G network for data and voice. I don't know how all the 4G phones are, but the bionic's programmed and roaming capabilities are done through a 4G sim card in the phone. The bionic wont even allow a *288 phone call to go through
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So I can take my OG droid with wireless tether and call *288 and it will activate and I can use it to tether from, then when I want to go back to my Bionic what do I do to activate it? goto my verizone online and do it. This is the one of the things I miss about the OG Droid do whatever I wanted on it with no issues, just was old and slow at the end. The Bionic 4g of course just screams through any D/L, Netflix etc.
*228 on lte fries sim cards. Fact
nerdslogic said:
*228 on lte fries sim cards. Fact
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Wrong. It fries them if they haven't been activated. After activation it does nothing.
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So I can take my OG droid with wireless tether and call *288 and it will activate and I can use it to tether from, then when I want to go back to my Bionic what do I do to activate it? goto my verizone online and do it. This is the one of the things I miss about the OG Droid do whatever I wanted on it with no issues, just was old and slow at the end. The Bionic 4g of course just screams through any D/L, Netflix etc.
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you'll have to activate both from myverizon.com. First thing you'll have to do is go to myverizon.com and activate you Droid OG with the ESN number, then dial *228 to get service. then you can use your phone as you were before. when you're done, go back to myverizon.com and reactivate your Droid Bionic, and turn it on with your sim card and it activates its self. I myself, have dialed *288 several times on my Bionic, and it has done no ill things to my sim card. I've actually been swapping sim cards out from other companies and trying to unlock my phone and haven't damaged anything yet. (not recommending this tho)
why not just use wired tether?
Immolate said:
Since tethering with a USB cord works, what's keeping you from doing that?
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Work computer won't allow new software to be installed. There is no difference between wireless tether and wired tether. In fact, wired gives a faster connection. It's garbage that we can't use our own bought phone for whatever the hell we want.
I tried to freeze using bloat freezer the mobile hotspot program from popping up but the program doesn't not show up in AND tried to use Root System Tool to identify and quit the program after opening Garden Wifi--- NO DICE.
Need something to quit mobile hotspot from popping up. NOTHING HAS WORKED!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpv02ClDmsU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Check this out
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oildriller83 said:
you'll have to activate both from myverizon.com. First thing you'll have to do is go to myverizon.com and activate you Droid OG with the ESN number, then dial *228 to get service. then you can use your phone as you were before. when you're done, go back to myverizon.com and reactivate your Droid Bionic, and turn it on with your sim card and it activates its self. I myself, have dialed *288 several times on my Bionic, and it has done no ill things to my sim card. I've actually been swapping sim cards out from other companies and trying to unlock my phone and haven't damaged anything yet. (not recommending this tho)
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Hi is true you can activate a 3g phone using
*228 but if you deactivate a4g phone you will need a new Sim card
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owenbeals said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpv02ClDmsU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Check this out
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Has this been confirmed as working? I'm supposed to root a bionic for a friend of mine who really wants to use wireless tether. Thanks
bisco3214 said:
Has this been confirmed as working? I'm supposed to root a bionic for a friend of mine who really wants to use wireless tether. Thanks
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It's confirmed to work, but it's also very possible VZ can just track it easily since you're using their service and they'll stick you on a tiered plan paying tons more than the grandfathered unlimited plan. With custom ROMs there is software that prevents them from seeing if you are browsing the web on your handset or using it to power your laptop. Be careful.
Just curious to see if anyone has tried Easy tether or PDA net with the bionic.
Give it a shot and let us know
I ask because I am not completely sure the Bionic is for me... trying to make an informed decision before I drop the $$$...
The only tethered apps people were able to use without paying are the USB tethered apps.
None of the WiFi hotspot apps worked.
I ended up signing up for the service so I would be able to do both. I can USB tether with my laptop, but not with my Tablet. Now I can easily do both.
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I just tried Easy Tether on my Bionic. Connects just fine, but not giving me internet access for some reason. Will have to troubleshoot it later.
cdf3 said:
The only tethered apps people were able to use without paying are the USB tethered apps.
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Is PDA Net the one that is recommended or are there other ones that work as well over USB?
I purchased Easy tether from the Amazon AppStore for $5 and it works flawlessly.
I am curious as to if anyone has been able to get USB tethering going on their Xoom.
Brenardo said:
I purchased Easy tether from the Amazon AppStore for $5 and it works flawlessly.
I am curious as to if anyone has been able to get USB tethering going on their Xoom.
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I used Easy Tether on my Incredible with no problems, but I just can't seem to get Internet access on the Bionic for some reason.
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Brenardo said:
I purchased Easy tether from the Amazon AppStore for $5 and it works flawlessly.
I am curious as to if anyone has been able to get USB tethering going on their Xoom.
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Thanks. Will try it out. Did some researching. PDA Net claims it can hide Tethering from being detected. Wondering how valid of a claim that is.
i downloaded easytether light for free from the market and it works easily and perfectly on my macbook. any questions or troubleshooting, let me know.
Works good, bought it from Amazon App store today, dowloaded drivers, works great. Didn't do a speedtest on tethered pc, but pages loaded quick, no video stutter from youtube or netflix with good 4g signal.
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Brenardo said:
I purchased Easy tether from the Amazon AppStore for $5 and it works flawlessly.
I am curious as to if anyone has been able to get USB tethering going on their Xoom.
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Are you wanting to tether the xoom to a pc/mac or the xoom to the Bionic? I am able to tether my xoom and Bionic via bluetooth.
I recieved my Bionic last week from Verizon. The ads touted mobile hotspot with 4g LTE.
It was not working on my phone so I called the subscription number and asked why.
With the Bionic (4gLTE) service your phone will allow it to be used as a hot dopt for up to 5 devices at a time. This is a no cost option (at this time). If yours is not working call them and ask for the service to be turned on for you.
The current sales literature tells you that this is included at no additional charge.
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I recieved my Bionic last week from Verizon. The ads touted mobile hotspot with 4g LTE.
It was not working on my phone so I called the subscription number and asked why.
With the Bionic (4gLTE) service your phone will allow it to be used as a hot dopt for up to 5 devices at a time. This is a no cost option (at this time). If yours is not working call them and ask for the service to be turned on for you.
The current sales literature tells you that this is included at no additional charge.
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i was told in the store this was a 30$ a month add on. i will be calling them. what number did you call?
I'm using PDA Net as we speak!! Works fine for me.
So today there is a new update for EasyTether.
I go to the marketplace to try and update but on the top it says "This item is not available on your carrier". I still have the app on my phone and it still works flawlessly but this is something new that I've noticed.
I just called the number that pops up (800) 256-4646 and was told that it is $30 per month.
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Are you wanting to tether the xoom to a pc/mac or the xoom to the Bionic? I am able to tether my xoom and Bionic via bluetooth.
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Please include detailed instructions foe me the lowly tard!
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mx5er said:
So today there is a new update for EasyTether.
I go to the marketplace to try and update but on the top it says "This item is not available on your carrier". I still have the app on my phone and it still works flawlessly but this is something new that I've noticed.
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Send the folks over at EasyTether an email they will hook you right up
i just got off the phone with verizon about their add. claiming that it was false advertising. i told them that i had an unliminted plan, why should i have to pay for another internet plan. well no no avail it did not work. i asked to talk to the supervisor and she told me that if i use verizons wireless hotspot that i would have to pay. but what i found odd was that she divulged a very nice tidbit in not so many words. she literally said if i root my phone and was android savoy i could manage to get it to work. she told me to look on the market for apps that would benefit the cause i was looking for. now i have never found a verizon rep that would ever say something like that. but i took one step further and asked her if i went the market app way, would i get penalized? her response was no. she told me that there is no way for them to see how many devices were hooked up the the phone. nor do they look for that. its all computer run. she said if i use gigs upon gigs of internet it would throw up a red flag and they would look further to see what was the cause. but if your a casual tetherer here and there you would be fine. she also told me that she has worked there for 5 years and has never seen anyone get in trouble for tethering. now this is when i diall 611 on the phone. not in a verizon store. bottom line is, there is hope for us lol
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needshelp101 said:
i just got off the phone with verizon about their add. claiming that it was false advertising. i told them that i had an unliminted plan, why should i have to pay for another internet plan. well no no avail it did not work. i asked to talk to the supervisor and she told me that if i use verizons wireless hotspot that i would have to pay. but what i found odd was that she divulged a very nice tidbit in not so many words. she literally said if i root my phone and was android savoy i could manage to get it to work. she told me to look on the market for apps that would benefit the cause i was looking for. now i have never found a verizon rep that would ever say something like that. but i took one step further and asked her if i went the market app way, would i get penalized? her response was no. she told me that there is no way for them to see how many devices were hooked up the the phone. nor do they look for that. its all computer run. she said if i use gigs upon gigs of internet it would throw up a red flag and they would look further to see what was the cause. but if your a casual tetherer here and there you would be fine. she also told me that she has worked there for 5 years and has never seen anyone get in trouble for tethering. now this is when i diall 611 on the phone. not in a verizon store. bottom line is, there is hope for us lol
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Seriously? Seriously? lol
Hi, Im interested in rooting my G note.
I rooted my HTC HD2 a long time ago and it was just alot better (custom roms). HOWEVER:
Im interested in this android tether application: Obviously you can tether you 3g you pay for monthly with the phones default settings. BUT
using root access, does this mean you can cancel your contract!, get a pay as you go contract, use the android tether to effectively steal the 3g data and then stream it to the same phone over wifi and browse for instance on Opera mini, mobile firefox, receive email over it?
or, is it the case that you can only tether to other devices such as ipod touch,,another wifi capable phone?
I can't really see the use in this otherwiseunless you carry around two phones all the time.
Can someone clear this up please because all the videos Ive watched they only prove it works on another device.
thanks very much, and I hope this works
by the way , I am based in the UK, have the standard european version and Im on a 3g network called 3. If this only works withother uk providers Id be happy to switch to orange/t-mobile , O2 etc
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using root access, does this mean you can cancel your contract!, get a pay as you go contract, use the android tether to effectively steal the 3g data and then stream it to the same phone over wifi and browse for instance on Opera mini, mobile firefox, receive email over it?
I can't really see the use in this otherwiseunless you carry around two phones all the time.
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Forgive me as i dont really understand what you're looking for. Is there a link to the tethering app you're speaking of? Tethering apps are usually so you can use your phones 3g for your laptop/pc. If youre on 3, then youre unlimited bundle comes in handy. A friend of mine tethers his sgs2 t9 his laptop using unlimited 3g as his broadband connection and has done for some time now without being restricted.
I dont understand when you say "steal the 3g from a pay as you go phone" to your note? That seems pointless. Surely yiu could just stick the pay as you go sim into your note?
Also, there are a lot of tethering apps that dont require root access.
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I thought one of the advantages of rooting your phone is to be able to not pay the monthly contract and use the tethering wifi from whichever network your on.
this guy says it in the first few minutes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVXMjVpMX2k&feature=related
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Also, there are a lot of tethering apps that dont require root access.
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yeh I know this....so...
oh, so it is only when you have a data plan already, you get tethering for free. when rooted. Nothing special then. ''. ?
so you can't have no data plan and effectively steal free data? ? '',
oh wait: having said that i was thethering a few months ago and my bill was huge: so I dont get it for free..
so reverting my original question:: does this work on the 3 network in the uk? thx
also:
couldn't i just root like an old samsung galaxy, keep it in my left pocket, travel the world , lol and keep a galaxy note in the other pocket using the wifi from the old samsung?
Im a little confused too, couldn't you do this with no data plan, i.e pay as you go and when you connect to 'data 3g' they charge you as you go, but effectively just tether it to another phone for free? so basically you would just pay for calls and not internet?
Ok, what the guy is on about is thqt operators in us charge an extra bolt on for the priveledge of enabling tethering. O2 used to do it when tethering was first enabled on the iphone 3gs, it was 10 quid a month or something rediculous.
Im pretty sure that now its free to enable tethering in the uk. All it means is that you can pair your phone using existing data plan to your laptop or pc, and effectively use it as a mobile 3g modem.
So yes, tethering will work on any network or rom, you're just limited by your existing data plan as to how worthwhile it is. If you get a 3 all you can eat data plan, then its unlimited, but of course speeds are pretty crappy.
Im sure there is a way to hack an operators 3g networks and get data for free but would imagine thats a bit beyond xda's strict code of ethics
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I see, what I meant when I got charged alot was that I went over the 5GB limit.
If I was to tether for free, using the root access, would I basically 'eat up that data' whilst tethering to another device for free?
As you know, in the uk, the tethering access most commonly comes under the same data plan and isn't free in that regard.
Yes, tethering just uses your existing data plan. Try getting one of 3's all you can eats if possible, im sure theyd be willing to if you call them up.
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To me it looks more like you have no idea about what rooting and tethering really is/does.... Since what you are asking is completely ridiculous...
You want to use your 3G data to send it over wifi, back to the same phone......
You can just cut out the tether part and use your 3G directly........
it's like getting into the car by entering into the trunk to get out by the back door to finally open the drivers door and sit in the drivers seat, instead of just open the drivers door right away like normal minded ppl would do.....
Guess we all start somewhere, i was confused as hell when i started out with smartphones.
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friedje said:
To me it looks more like you have no idea about what rooting and tethering really is/does.... Since what you are asking is completely ridiculous...
You want to use your 3G data to send it over wifi, back to the same phone......
You can just cut out the tether part and use your 3G directly........
it's like getting into the car by entering into the trunk to get out by the back door to finally open the drivers door and sit in the drivers seat, instead of just open the drivers door right away like normal minded ppl would do.....
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it's like getting into the car by entering into the trunk to get out by the back door to finally open the drivers door and sit in the drivers seat, instead of just open the drivers door right away like normal minded ppl would do.....
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just come back to this thread after a few hours: no its not because you would be getting it for free.
It is more like buying a drivers door and not actually owning a boot door or side door
surely?!
Don't you understand?? In the uk you can have a pay as you go contract and then pay extra for 3g when you use it, so instinct would suggest you could effetcivel climb into your car through the boot and into the drivers seat!!! to use the pay as you go 3g (for free) through tethering(eg the metaphorical boot ) and use the wifi receiver of the phone to use it!!! (eg the metaphorical drivers seat )
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But anyway I understood from before that the phone can't receive that own signal. Although now Im questioning either the other persons understanding or your ignorance So what Im now saying is 'yes its useful'. But does it work in the uk where the tethering is just the same usage of the data plan eg 5GB????
Im sure I could ask 3 for unlimted but tbh the people at their contact centre are umbelievably annoying. Id prefer to use this way of tethering as it'd give me an excuse to put effort into rooting my device anyway
Strange logic indeed... Pretty sure the car would have blown up and you'd be in hospital!
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strange humour. Has no one got a striaight answer to this.
Or can i assume everyone on this forum is mobile obsessed, and works for mobile phone network companies
Answer answered a few times.
I dont think you understand the principals of tethering or a normal data connection.
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So, if i was to tether having rooted the phone, it would still cost me is that what your saying?
because I don't think that was said at all ?
Tether uses data from the phone. If you have no data plan, you cant tether full stop.
If you know of a way to hack 3's 3g network, please let me know, i'll transfer now.
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i just found this, but, since you can have payg internet i see no reason why you couldn't tether .. Correct me if im wrong but it just seemed a naturally progressive assumption.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=719110
sorry i can't just take your word for it ,
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ok I found this though http://technoratia.com/2011/12/30/three-uks-position-on-tethering-devices-to-your-phone/ three don't allow tethering on payg,,, (as its their policy)
suppose someone must do in the uk??? then it would work right? presuming the tethering is alos in the payg form and not monthly eg bolt on to a payg plan.
giffgaff allow tethering from payg but you wil lbe paying a hell of alot of money to tether on a non contract tarriff
you cannot tether if you do not have the creit on payg or a contract that gives you data each month
what exactly are you trying to achive ? internet on your laptop for free from a mobile connection and dropping a home broadband connection?
You cannot resend a tethered signal from a phone back to itself as the tethering itself uses the phone's WIFI module, and as such cannot connect to the WIFI hotspot since the phone has no additional WIFI modules. So what you're asking for is literally impossible under normal circumstances.
Also, am I right in understanding that what you're asking for is bordering on fraud/theft of services?
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You cannot resend a tethered signal from a phone back to itself as the tethering itself uses the phone's WIFI module, and as such cannot connect to the WIFI hotspot since the phone has no additional WIFI modules. So what you're asking for is literally impossible under normal circumstances.
Also, am I right in understanding that what you're asking for is bordering on fraud/theft of services?
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He is trying to enter a Tesco, and eat their M&M's without opening the bag....
And consequently not opening his wallet either
And he still doesn't understand rooting, dataplans or tethering, which isn't a bad thing, but he could just take our word for it, or read up on it.
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He is trying to enter a Tesco, and eat their M&M's without opening the bag....
And consequently not opening his wallet either
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Lol... Too true.
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Sprint sent us a letter saying that my dad's phone had been sharing his connection to computers without their permission. We have been using our phones as our house internet for about 2 years, we got 4G last summer, we use the heck out of it. We have the family plan with unlimited text and data. His number hasn't tethered in a while, we have been using my brothers phone for the house internet while he's in boot camp. Why are they saying they will terminate our account because of my dad's number? The phone for the house internet has used A LOT of data, but that's the point of have UNLIMITED can they really do this? They said they will be monitoring our data usage for the next 10 days, isn't that invading privacy? Thanks
They can tell when your device is tethering. They will only monitor the amount of data being used. Not what you are viewing or downloading. They don't have the ability to actually see that. Why don't you consider home internet? Its cheaper than a hotspot or mobile broadband
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They can tell when your device is tethering. They will only monitor the amount of data being used. Not what you are viewing or downloading. They don't have the ability to actually see that. Why don't you consider home internet? Its cheaper than a hotspot or mobile broadband
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We can't get it where we live it pisses us off because it would cost us $24,000 to run it from the middle of our road to us. That's why we use the hotspot, we arent paying for the hotspot, if we did pay for the $30 fee, do you think we could use as much as we want?
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if we did pay for the $30 fee, do you think we could use as much as we want?
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I'd think you would be able to, but I'd still drop Sprint an email to make sure with them and get it in writing in case they try to give you trouble later on.
Unlimited isn't truly unlimited, it's unlimited within reason. It's in their fine print. They also say they can terminate you without further notice for using too much data per month, especially if you roam.
You need to come up with a better solution. It's because of people like you that make the network slower than hell for the rest of us. Tethering here & there I have no problems with but people that use it for home internet is just so stupid. You can get a hotspot or sat internet if you can't get a wired connection.
Seriously guys? When did this sentiment begin? People have been sneaking tethering for years and that's one thing that is a preferable benefit to sprint and these phones. Since when can they tell we tether while rooted?
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Sprint sent us a letter saying that my dad's phone had been sharing his connection to computers without their permission. We have been using our phones as our house internet for about 2 years, we got 4G last summer, we use the heck out of it. We have the family plan with unlimited text and data. His number hasn't tethered in a while, we have been using my brothers phone for the house internet while he's in boot camp. Why are they saying they will terminate our account because of my dad's number? The phone for the house internet has used A LOT of data, but that's the point of have UNLIMITED can they really do this? They said they will be monitoring our data usage for the next 10 days, isn't that invading privacy? Thanks
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Comet1966, Consider that Sprint, just like your cable, water, gas, credit card company all have the ability to "profile" you. They know who you call, for how long, what shows you watch, how much water and gas you use, and where you shop. etc.
Sprint Terms Of Service prohibits tethering unless you pay for it. They were offering 5 gb with the unlimited for life plan for authorized tethering. As others have suggested either try to work with Sprint to get a tethering plan or stop tethering if you like your Sprint service. At least they put you on notice and just didn't disconnect you.
And I know exactly what you mean, my dad's and brother's houses are in the country and from time to time I have turned on the tethering - but not as my primary internet connection for a household every month.
"I didn't pay for something and now that I am abusing it Sprint wants me to stop or pay"
First, you know tethering is an extra fee, by bypassing it Sprint could have charged you for every bit of data used. More importantly in response to your "unlimited" claim, it is unlimited data used ON YOUR PHONE. In fact Sprint doesn't even offer an unlimited tethering plan, I believe the highest they go is 5GB. It sucks you live in a crappy part of town but you need to look into an actual solution.
There is NO WAY of me finding another solution, we CANNOT get cable internet at this point in time. It would cost us $24,000 to run it to us. Now of course all the cable companys get our hopes up by saying that they have it in our area, right up until we call to get it. Google intended for the tethering to be free in the beggining, but yes its really up to the carriers. It is the only thing that we know of that is actually usable and stable. No need to start pointing fingers, I was just figuring out why. And to say "it's because of people like us that the networks are slow" is the dumbest dank thing I've heard today, 1 of the five phones that are on our plan could be downloading a torrent at 2.5MBps right next to me, and I would still get 20MBps, I believe yes they throttle us otherwise one guy would be getting 100MBps and the other would be getting 1. Bit the limits of our radio's also do that.
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There is NO WAY of me finding another solution, we CANNOT get cable internet at this point in time. It would cost us $24,000 to run it to us. Now of course all the cable companys get our hopes up by saying that they have it in our area, right up until we call to get it. Google intended for the tethering to be free in the beggining, but yes its really up to the carriers. It is the only thing that we know of that is actually usable and stable. No need to start pointing fingers, I was just figuring out why. And to say "it's because of people like us that the networks are slow" is the dumbest dank thing I've heard today, 1 of the five phones that are on our plan could be downloading a torrent at 2.5MBps right next to me, and I would still get 20MBps, I believe yes they throttle us otherwise one guy would be getting 100MBps and the other would be getting 1. Bit the limits of our radio's also do that.
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Why not just pay for a Sprint MIFI card? Believe you get 5 GB a month? Is DSL available in your area or maybe even another wireless provider (at my dad's house, they have a company that has basically WIFI that uses a special receiver attached to a small dish antenna pointed towards a tower)?
And if you are running Torrent traffic over a Sprint connection, that definitely isn't standard "smart phone" traffic along with the amount of Internet traffic, is what Sprint is looking at when it comes to "abuse".
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Why not just pay for a Sprint MIFI card? Believe you get 5 GB a month? Is DSL available in your area or maybe even another wireless provider (at my dad's house, they have a company that has basically WIFI that uses a special receiver attached to a small dish antenna pointed towards a tower)?
And if you are running Torrent traffic over a Sprint connection, that definitely isn't standard "smart phone" traffic along with the amount of Internet traffic, is what Sprint is looking at when it comes to "abuse".
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Yeah, we had something called planet connect it aimed at a tower, but it was highly unstable and their customer support sucks now.
Well your only option now is to find another solution because if you keep abusing Sprints network your account WILL be canceled. This is not something new and this is not the only thread like this. I admit I do tether but it's only to send an email or two every once in a while. You have clearly been abusing the system and now you've been put on notice. You will probably continue to do it then you will start another thread complaining that sprint canceled your service for no reason. I am not trying be be an a#$ but you've been a member of xda since 2011, you had to have seen other threads like this.
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How much data were you using a month?
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There is NO WAY of me finding another solution, we CANNOT get cable internet at this point in time. It would cost us $24,000 to run it to us. Now of course all the cable companys get our hopes up by saying that they have it in our area, right up until we call to get it. Google intended for the tethering to be free in the beggining, but yes its really up to the carriers. It is the only thing that we know of that is actually usable and stable. No need to start pointing fingers, I was just figuring out why. And to say "it's because of people like us that the networks are slow" is the dumbest dank thing I've heard today, 1 of the five phones that are on our plan could be downloading a torrent at 2.5MBps right next to me, and I would still get 20MBps, I believe yes they throttle us otherwise one guy would be getting 100MBps and the other would be getting 1. Bit the limits of our radio's also do that.
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NO WAY at all huh. You can get a mifi card using the same network connection. You shouldn't be torrenting over hacked tether. I hope they cancel your account and they should. The bottom line it does affect other users & the network. Sprint's 3G is painful enough as it is, borderline useless in some areas. Stop being cheap and get a mifi card. If you actually paid for a capped connection, you would be a lot more careful with what you were using bandwidth for.
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Yeah, we had something called planet connect it aimed at a tower, but it was highly unstable and their customer support sucks now.
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Have you tried these guys
ABG Wireless, LLC
Beasley Wireless Internet
Ken-Tenn Wireless
They are all WISPs in TN
tws101 said:
Have you tried these guys
ABG Wireless, LLC
Beasley Wireless Internet
Ken-Tenn Wireless
They are all WISPs in TN
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I've never heard of them, but I will mention them to my father. Thanks
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NO WAY at all huh. You can get a mifi card using the same network connection. You shouldn't be torrenting over hacked tether. I hope they cancel your account and they should. The bottom line it does affect other users & the network. Sprint's 3G is painful enough as it is, borderline useless in some areas. Stop being cheap and get a mifi card. If you actually paid for a capped connection, you would be a lot more careful with what you were using bandwidth for.
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Have you seen the price of a mifi card plan, its insane. My dad called them today to try and figure out why, and the lady could not tell him she just kept saying we violated the terms of service, he asked which terms we violated, she said "I don't know".... Yeah Sprint " ranked #1 in customer service" BS they can't tell us anything, that's 2 people from there giving out useless information. If there was another company in our area that actually had reasonable prices for 5 phones, we would let them drop us in a heartbeat. Thanks for your information though, no reason to be an ass though.
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How much data were you using a month?
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Too much, I guess we hadn't had internet that was more than 100kbps in well, ever so we NON-STOP used it, from playing games to watching Netflix.
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Have you seen the price of a mifi card plan, its insane. My dad called them today to try and figure out why, and the lady could not tell him she just kept saying we violated the terms of service, he asked which terms we violated, she said "I don't know".... Yeah Sprint " ranked #1 in customer service" BS they can't tell us anything, that's 2 people from there giving out useless information. If there was another company in our area that actually had reasonable prices for 5 phones, we would let them drop us in a heartbeat. Thanks for your information though, no reason to be an ass though.
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READ THROUGH YOUR CONTRACT. There are provisions regarding the use of tethering. Its not the CSR's job to know what you and a million other people signed, It is yours. Sprint does not offer unlimited tethering. It is a separate charge and even then it has a maximum limit. It has always been that way, don't forget tethering existed well before Android ever did. This isn't even an argument, no matter what way you twist this you're wrong.