Hey Guys check this out:
http://dillyeo.com/mini-bluetooth-wireless-keyboard?___SID=U
Rick
HD2's Dimensions:
120.5 x 67 x 11 mm
Keyboard's Dimensions:
115 x 60 x 7 mm
Hmmm, that's pretty tempting. If somebody made a case that would hold both without adding alot more bulk, I'd be sold.
Or in Silver:
http://www.chinavasion.com/product_info.php/pName/mini-bluetooth-keyboard-for-smartphones/
Nice find I may have to jump on that one.
Are those two products the same, only a different color?
They look different to me.
If anyone here has tried one, and could review it, please do so.
Freedom Input also had a small BT thumboard like that, which you can see at:
http://www.freedominput.com/technical-support/technical-support/slim-keypad
However, it is now only listed under tech support, not under products, so it may have been discontinued. They still may be available at some places, however. I think more expensive though, than the two listed earlier in this thread.
I really would like to hear how those have worked for people.
Of course, that kind of very small phone size thumb boards do not cover the whole subject of external BT keyboards. More common are the full-size fold-up BT keyboards. Not for a shirt or pants pocket, but can fit in a coat pocket. Also not to use holding in your hand, but to fold out on a table. So, completely different usage--but is like typing on a normal computer keyboard. Freedom Input makes a couple models of those. Stowaway (Think Outside, later Igo) brand had a couple different models (now discontinued, but probably still avaialble), HP used to make one, I think there are others as welll.
However, I'm interested in finding out about those small thumb boards now. I have an HD2 on the way, and am not used to all-touch. Until I get used to touch screen typing, I might like to have a physical keyboard as well. (I already have the large size fold-up BT keyboard, but I think the small pocketable thumb board type could come in handy, if they are any good.)
If anyone here could review any of those, I would appreciate it.
I found one review of the Chinavision product here on XDA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704310
Not very encouraging.
Anyone else?
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PS Found another thread on XDA, with more reviews of it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6819244&posted=1
Sounds kind of iffy, especially if ordering from China and hard to return. Even at $25, I wouldn't want to throw that money away. If possible to order from here, with full refund if unhappy with it, possible.
Haven't yet seen reviews of the first one mentioned, dilyeo (?) ? Anyone?
One thing I don't see mentioned, that I think would be important, a necessity. An on-off key, that would not turn on by accident, in one's pocket. For one thing, not to use up the battery too quick, but also, if in your pocket, turned on, no case, it could be inputting characters in your phone, that you don't want.
For that matter, even with an on-off switch, some kind of hard flip cover sure would be nice, to protect the keyboard when in the pocket.
Look at the following page at brando.com:
http://usb.brando.com/usb-keyboard_c034d015
They offer more different kinds of those small bt thumbboards, than I have ever seen. Of course, the question still is--are they any good? They even have some with touchpads (such as on a laptop, to function as a mouse), etc.
This one looks a lot like the chinavision one mentioned, perhaps it is the same, perhaps not: http://usb.brando.com/slim-bluetooth-keyboard_p01591c034d015.html
another similar one: http://usb.brando.com/mini-plam-size-bluetooth-keyboard_p01651c034d015.html
"Plam-sized", eh?
This one looks interesting, it does have a flip cover:
http://usb.brando.com/palm-size-bluetooth-keyboard_p01307c034d015.html
Brando is in Hong Kong though, so again, difficult to return. Anyone ordered from them? Anyone tried any of these keyboards?
Anyone here tried one of these small pocketable handheld BT keyboards?
If so, your review?
I have the Stowaway (Think Outside, later Igo} Key board & mouse that that I purchase years ago for my dell axim51v which work great .It work on the palmtreo I think work on wing . I figure it work Htc D2 which I had since April . But bad news I get error mes. problem with blue thooth version .So be careful if you purchase make sure it compatable.I have not pusue any other options except zagg stylus. I would sure love to use the mouse and key board.
I'm using the Apple BT keyboard, works great except the arrow keys have some issues. http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC184LL/A?fnode=MTY1NDA1Mg&mco=MTMzNzg5MDM
Price is pretty decent too. Don't know if the trackpad they sell would work but from my experience with mice I'd say not.
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I have the Stowaway (Think Outside, later Igo} Key board & mouse that that I purchase years ago for my dell axim51v which work great .It work on the palmtreo I think work on wing . I figure it work Htc D2 which I had since April . But bad news I get error mes. problem with blue thooth version .So be careful if you purchase make sure it compatable.I have not pusue any other options except zagg stylus. I would sure love to use the mouse and key board.
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The Stowaway BT Keyboard works just fine with the HD2. I have one. You don't need the Stowaway drivers, it works fine with the HD2 HID service.
But yes, the Stowaway mouse does not work on the HD2.
In any case, this thread is not primarily about the large fold-up full size keyboards like the Stowaway. If you read the previous posts, it is mostly a discussion of the small palm-sized BT keyboards (or thumbboards).
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Hello all... I'm new to this forum but have found it quite helpful in my quest to optimize and get every bit of juice out of my HD2. I have looked through so many posts trying to find information on stands as I have just purchased my apple bluetooth keyboard for use as a note taking device at school. I was going to buy another eeepc after I sold mine, but realized that with the keyboard this baby is actually quite powerful enough to be a baby computer at school. A lot of the stands seem really cool but I was wondering if anyone had found or figured out a way to modify a stand that could securely clip onto the space at the top of the apple keyboard.
Attached is a link to an image of the keyboard to give you an idea of what I'm working with. Seems the space at the top is about an inch. As I can't seem to find one I can buy yet, I've been trying to think of ways I could create a clip on from one of the stands like the smart stand but thought I'd throw this out to you guys for some ideas as I'm not getting very far. Sorry if this has been covered before, but I did do a lot of searching and didn't seem to find anything like this in particular so thought I'd post.
And, btw, I'm Elle. Nice to meet you guys.
Cool idea...let us know if you figure something out.
The whole concept just sounds strange to me. Using a small phone with a massive keyboard just to do some notes. Granted both devices are beautiful but working them both together, er no.
However each to their own and all. I can't think of a way to attach them together which wouldn't inherently ruin either the phone or keyoard but what I'd do if I was so inclined to use them both together, would be maybe buy the extended battery with kickstand and then use it like the image below (obviously you wouldn't need to lean your phone against the wall with the kickstand ).
I fail to see why the HD2 needs to be attached to the keyboard in the first place .
Update - my girlfriend has suggested you just use a bit of blu-tac lol.
That's what I've been doing, just without an appropriate stand but a self-created one. It's actually a rather cool setup; this is the smaller version of the keyboard and it decreases the weight I carry around immensely. The keyboard syncs wonderfully, I just thought it might be cool if there was a way to attach it to the keyboard. I'll let you guys know if I figure anything out specifically, there seems to be some interesting ways to manufacture a simple clip on that I'm figuring out the details for at the moment.
Did you ever figure out a simple stand? I just bought one of these keyboards. and it paired perfectly and all the keys work, except the specialized function keys.
Compared to other available bluetooth keyboards (Stowaway, Freedom, etc.), this one is probably overall less space (by volume) and lighter.
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hi. Just to let you know that this stand actually works.
Alright, ignoring the iPhone (it sux anyways. ), the translucent stand thats holding the phone actually fits the hd2. Not only that, I have the silicon casing around the hd2 and the stand still fits! Of course, it stretches as the iphone is of a smaller width. How do i know? I tested my bro's stand and it has been with me since. Lets just say that the holder was no longer meant for the iphone due to the bigger hd2. I.e. Its mine!
P.s It goes horizontal and vertical.
There's a couple of threads on make-your-own stands My favourite is the credit-card one, which you then fold out whenever you need it. Keep it in your wallet/as part of your phone case and you're there!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=603363
iPhone stand
CCheck out this one: w w w. northsecure. com/iphone-stand/ (remove spaces)
Old thread, but anyway the extended battery with it's kickstand would do this amazingly
Now that BT finally works, I'm looking for a very thin but large keyboard or case that I can use w. my nook without adding too much bulk to it....
If you google for "samsung-galaxy-tab-bluetooth-keyboard-case-review" you'll see what I mean. I'm actually considering getting that and ripping the keyboard part out of the case, because nook definitely would not fit inside that case.
Seems to be a bit of a waste though to pay $40 for the whole deal, if I could only find who makes that keyboard part or something similar
diNovo Edge from Logitech maybe?
But I didn't even know BT had been enabled finally, what the what? Going to see about that now...
nook color bluetooth keyboard portfolio
I've been looking this morning...basically something that I could roll together with the NC and a bluetooth keyboard for conferences. A couple ideas come to the forefront:
http://shop.brando.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-case-with-bluetooth-keyboard_p05269c0299d057.html
And then some keyboards originally for the iPad, but would work nonetheless:
http://www.ipadaccessories.com/othe...rds/best-bluetooth-keyboards-for-ipad-roundup
The iGo looks decent, and I can get my hands on an Apple keyboard for cheap...but then I'm looking at having to prop up the NC and carrying along the keyboard as well. Might look into ETSY and having someone sew one together.
-Ian
Yeah, A sample came out last night, and Nightly 17 is out now. Some people are reporting problems with nightly 17. (they skipped 16? because they skipped a day?)
I have the BT version installed now (not nightly 17) and it works great (the OS, I don't have any BT hardward yet.)
On the keyboard question, that keyboard is too big and way too expensive.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823115003
That's still bigger than the NC, but closer, and much cheaper.
I think I'm going to look into one of the bluetooth keyboard / pad holders though instead of making a holder.
Please notice that the Nook is about an inch longer than the galaxy tab. I learned that the hard way since I bought my Nook without a case and I live - well - let's just say on the other side of the planet. So far I haven't been able to find anything that fit the Nook.
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Please notice that the Nook is about an inch longer than the galaxy tab. I learned that the hard way since I bought my Nook without a case and I live - well - let's just say on the other side of the planet. So far I haven't been able to find anything that fit the Nook.
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Did the same thing, having the same problem. I am drooling over tab cases like mad.
How do you have bluetooth enabled but not flashed to CM7 Nightlie 17? Did you just install the dependencies? If so, could you post how?
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How do you have bluetooth enabled but not flashed to CM7 Nightlie 17? Did you just install the dependencies? If so, could you post how?
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They posted the pre-17 BT before they posted a build 17. It may in fact be the same file, but I haven't updated to 17 yet. I don't even have a bluetooth device yet, but I think I'm going to walmart to get a wiimote for NES action!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960537
That is what I'm using. it's the bluetooth build 3/11/2011
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?type=nightly&device=encore
This is the CM7-Encore-17 which includes bluetooth. I'm unsure of the difference but they are indeed different file sizes.
About that galaxy pad keyboard:
That looks promising!! These guys are not very heavy. One could, if one were so inclined and feeling a bit hackery, cut off the leather holder for that galaxy pad and use some 3m dual lock or hook and loop velcro to connect the NC to that keyboard holder.
I think I'm just going to get a keyboard and design a stand to hold up the NC on the desk.
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How do you have bluetooth enabled but not flashed to CM7 Nightlie 17? Did you just install the dependencies? If so, could you post how?
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You can try my SD image if you only want it for test purposes and don't want to touch your existing setup.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989637
Thanks for the SD link man. I didn't notice that.
I just ordered this from newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823115003
I will report back when it arrives (circa weds.)
Theoretically speaking, would flashing over to the CM7 Nightly Kernel work for other Mods?
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About that galaxy pad keyboard:
That looks promising!! These guys are not very heavy. One could, if one were so inclined and feeling a bit hackery, cut off the leather holder for that galaxy pad and use some 3m dual lock or hook and loop velcro to connect the NC to that keyboard holder.
I think I'm just going to get a keyboard and design a stand to hold up the NC on the desk.
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For some reason it says on the website
Note: This product DOES NOT work with Sprint and Verizon version
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I wonder why it wouldn't be compatible? It's bluetooth shouldn't it be universal?
Nah...
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For some reason it says on the website
I wonder why it wouldn't be compatible? It's bluetooth shouldn't it be universal?
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Apparently Samsung and Verizon/Sprint decided to lock out bluetooth on their Galaxy Tabs. Go figure.
Not our problem though.
nice find on the keyboard! looks to be just .5" wider than the NC, and a bit shorter front to back. I can picture this in a custom case that flips up and locks into a laptop-esque position
I'm thinking of either buying that Galaxy Tab one and altering it (shouldn't be too hard) or just making my own custom case with keyboard built in. It wouldn't be too hard either way, there are videos around on making a case for the nookcolor, adding a keyboard shouldn't be hard and could probably just be done with some Velcro
I definitely just purchased the Gizmo Dorks BT keyboard and case (for galaxy).. and I'm a huge xda newb so I can't post links, but I bought it from amazon for about 60 bones USD- very cheap for a keyboard and stand-up case.
I don't really care about keyboard size- maybe I'll get some mini-finger clipons for my fingers if it's too small but I think the case is a little bigger (8" long) than some of the other galaxy combo cases out there- and a guy said he fit his archos tab in it, but it should be here next week and I'll keep ya'll updated.
I've been using an apple keyboard for a few days now. It's fantastic for a few reasons.
It's a real keyboard. I type 25wpm on the soft keyboard, i doubt i could improve much on that with those little case keyboards, with mushy buttons. I do 55wpm on the apple keyboard which is pretty close to my model m desktop keyboard but more portable.
It's amazingly convenient to actually use. I use it "backwards". Throw the nook flat near me, between my arms, and reach past it to the keyboard behind it. It's even easier to use than my laptop for what it does, sometimes i even find myself preferring it over my desktop for certain tasks. The cramped netbook configuration the case keyboards lock you into makes me shudder now. I could still do the netbook configuration if i wanted too though. It's a more flexible setup, which is the point of the tablet over the laptop/netbook to begin with...
The keyboard throws in my backpack just fine, is super light, small enough not to notice. It would be the same if i used a messenger bag or whatever to carry the nook, and there is no extra bulk if i know i won't need the keyboard, i can just grab the nook by itself. Flexibility again.
It is $70 dollars which is maybe a little more than other options, but if I'm gonna get a keyboard, i want to make sure it's an upgrade over the touchscreen. $10-$20 is worth more typing speed, less fatigue and more flexibility to me.
chisleu said:
Thanks for the SD link man. I didn't notice that.
I just ordered this from newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823115003
I will report back when it arrives (circa weds.)
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So how is the keyboard, chisleu???
I just ordered these keyboards from amazon, they both connect and work wonderfully:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004HJEVY6
I sent it back though because the keys were too close together.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004MN1F6Y
I think I am going to keep this one!
It's keys are raised rubber and smaller, but they are spaced out so you can feel the individual keys.
The case is too small for the nookColor (since it's for the galaxy tab), but the keyboard is actually velcro-ed in, so I just removed it and I am using it in my nookColor case. (http://gifts.barnesandnoble.com/Minimal-Trifold-Cover-in-Night/e/9781616864927/?cds2Pid=36174)
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So how is the keyboard, chisleu???
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It is ok. Bt keyboard support is kinda broken right now though. Wifi interferes with bluetooth.
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The Sprint Tab got updated with Gingerbread recently as we all know. One of the things it was supposed to fix was HID support. Does that mean it will now support this case from Thinkgeek?
http://www.thinkgeek.com/clearance/on-sale/e7e3/
The case says it only works with ATT and TMobile, but I wonder if that has changed now with the Sprint GB update adding HID support. Anyone know?
The keyboard will work if you have updated. I have purchased one of these too ( I have GSM, but have read multiple places including here; see comments [URL="http://www.intomobile.com/2011/01/03/samsung-galaxy-tab-bluetooth-keyboard-case/"]here[/URL]). Personally, I don't like the case, prefer my Scosche case. The keyboard is alright, it is rubber form factored and only stuck to the case via double-sided tape. I will admit it is still a bargain for a BT keyboard at $25 but I didn't examine the keyboard layout too well and was disappointed to see there is no ctrl key and missing a few other keys of that nature. I may just remove the keyboard from the case, neutralize the double-sided tape and use it standalone when needed. That was more than you wanted to know but figured I'd give you my opinion as well, that was free.
I'm wondering if it will work on my verizon tab running the sprint gb rom is bt in the rom or the kernel?
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I would also be interested as it relates to the verizon model.
Why would it not work with verizon version anyway? It's bluetooth correct? I can connect my Apple BT keyboard no problem and I'm on the stock Rom.
I have thinkgeek keyboard, it will indeed work on sprint tab after GB update
I ordered one. I had a hard time passing on the $25 price tag. We'll post a review when it gets here.
Heh...my 2 cents wasn't worth enough to you?
I gave a small review in my reply to you, bet you'll feel the same especially if you have a form fitting case already, heck...if you thanked me I would've offered you mine for $10 free shipping.
No offense, but I never buy just one review. I always wait until I get 2-3 reviews at least before I make a decision.
Case came in today. It paired with no problem, but the space bar does not work at all. Might be operator error. I'm charging it to full first before I contact TG and see about getting a refund/replacement. The case is a little large for my liking.
Edit: Charging it seemed to fix the problem. I'm not sure I like the case though. It's too big for my liking and doesn't have a clasp on it.
works fine with Sprint GT. For $31 incl shipping it's a very nice case, paired instantly, and keyboard does what's claimed. Smaller than a netbook, and of course the GT easily slips out for even more portability. There's no "closure" to the case, no wrap-around elastic, or snap-tab. Easily fixed with two blocks of wood, a 10-penny nail, and a hammer. Or some velcro.
I'm a fast typist, and this unit's Bluetooth link (or the GT itself) won't quite keep up with me. Evidently there's an inadequate input buffer. Otherwise ok.
Worth the $$.
I already bought my Poetic Hardback and I'm pretty impressed, so I'm feeling less reluctant about buying 3rd party cased.
Has anyone gotten a case with a built in / removable keyboard?
It looks like the keyboard on these 4 are exactly the same. Only the case may be different. My only concern with the keyboard is that in a review someone noted that there's F1-12 keys that don't do anything unless you hold down fn -- seems like bad design.
These seem to be the top keyboard cases for the Nexus 10:
Poetic
KHOMO
Ionic
MoKo
Ionic and MoKo look pretty much the same. They seem superior to the Poetic in that they don't cover the Notification LED. And the KHOM seems the most different with its swivel.
Anyone have experience with any of them? Or see other differences?
Bump.. anyone have experience with any of these??
Khomo Keyboard Case
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I purchased the Khomo keyboard case and I was going to return it. They actually gave it to me half off to review it so it cost me like $17. I can tell you the build quality is pretty nice along with its look but, it has some stability issues. The keyboard was terrible since I had already purchased the zagg flex keyboard/stand. After using zaggs keyboard the khomo keyboard pales in comparison to the functionality of what the zagg keyboard offers. These are tablets not laptops and the keyboard should be designed with that in mind. The screen on/off function works as it is supposed to when closed and opened. Also I noticed that it was hard to close fully. The magnetic area had to be pulled tightly to align with the other magnets for it to close securely. It closes easily without the nexus 10 inside but with it the added depth just causes it to take a little more effort than what should be needed to fully close it. The keyboard is removable and bluetooth connectivity worked as it should with no issues. I guess it may be a good deal for some but after using the Zagg Flex Keyboard I would easily recommend it even without it being a case over the Khomo. I got the Zagg for $37 and made a thread a while back of where to find it if still available at that price. If requested I can still upload the first reaction video I made of it to youtube.
Also rotation to portrait is iffy because you cannot get it in a position I would deem useful. If I want portrait I pretty much want it standin straight not at an angle. Videos are uploading though for those who may want to look at it. Thanks to Khomo for the discount and support them. They may produce better designs after a few drafts.
Thanks momulah.. it seems like the khomo has the same removable keyboard as the 3 other ones I linked.
What problems are you having with the keyboard? Just the F keys or are there other issues?
Which ZAGG keyboard by the way? It seems like they have several, ranging from $70-$100+ and they look possibly less portable?
I just received my poetic dual case and the quality is quite excellent. The leather looks nice and the tablet fits snuggly. Keys also feel pretty good.
Unfortunately, I'll likely be returning this and looking for something just slightly better. There are two big problems. The first of which you've mentioned before: there are android function keys but they are hidden underneath F1-12 and you have to press the FN key in conjunction to access the Android function keys. Since this is supposedely designed specifically for the Nexus 10 I find this to be a huge oversight. The biggest issue, however, is that the right shift key is moved away from the keyboard separated by both the 'end' and up arrow key. I have no idea why this was done seeing as the left shift is where it should be bordering the 'z' key. I've attached an image below. Perhaps given some more time I could get used to it (in fact, I'm already naturally using left shift exclusively while typing this post). I want to like this case; for the price it's simply phenomenal. Very sturdy, setup and connection was a breeze and it looks good. I'll report back in a few more days.
Edit: there is also another awkward keyboard layout problem. The home key is wedged in between the main keyboard and enter key. It appears that the manufacturer tried to squeeze a full sized keyboard into the dimensions of the tablet and made some...questionable design choices.
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I already bought my Poetic Hardback and I'm pretty impressed, so I'm feeling less reluctant about buying 3rd party cased.
Has anyone gotten a case with a built in / removable keyboard?
It looks like the keyboard on these 4 are exactly the same. Only the case may be different. My only concern with the keyboard is that in a review someone noted that there's F1-12 keys that don't do anything unless you hold down fn -- seems like bad design.
These seem to be the top keyboard cases for the Nexus 10:
Poetic
KHOMO
Ionic
MoKo
Ionic and MoKo look pretty much the same. They seem superior to the Poetic in that they don't cover the Notification LED. And the KHOM seems the most different with its swivel.
Anyone have experience with any of them? Or see other differences?
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I have the... um, haha wow, it really is hard to tell, but I believe I have the Moko case. I was going to say Poetic, but my notification LED definitely isn't blocked. Although I'm not too disappointed with it, I wouldn't order it again; not only does it add bulk (which I anticipated, and doesn't bother me too much), but it adds significant weight, and gives it an unwieldy feel. How are you supposed to read books/current/magazines with the case? You find yourself pressing the keys when you swing it around to the back. Fortunately, the keyboard is incredibly easy to pull on and off (this is the saving grace, otherwise I would have returned mine), but the case feels a little.. "off" without the keyboard.
It offers decent protection, and the keyboard is acceptable. When you're sitting at a desk, or lying down with the keyboard on your stomach and the case stand is holding up the N10 on a nearby table, it's pretty nice, although the omission of a mouse means you still need to poke at the screen or pair a mouse through a USB OTG adapter (there is probably an easier way, but I haven't figured it out yet). However, for me, those situations are outnumbered by the times I want to use it sitting on a bench, bus, metro, standing, reading in bed, etc.
If I were to buy another case, I would go for the best slim case available. I think my ideal case would be something like a gel case with a simple "flap" screen protector and a plastic kickstand molded into the back of the gel case. That's enough protection for me to feel comfortable putting it into my messenger bag without worrying too much about scrapes.
I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: logitech K400. Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
Anyway, even with all that said, I'm happy enough with the case that I'm keeping it. It's a good price for bluetooth keyboard, okay case, and it fits together nicely. I suggest thinking about how you use your nexus 10, and if the pseudo-netbook form factor makes sense for you, then I would suggest the Moko without reservation. If not, consider going for your favorite case and your favorite bluetooth keyboard separately.
A request: if you get the k400 keyboard, PM me and let me know if it's as good as I thought!
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I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: . Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
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Hi there,
I would recomment looking for a real bluetooth keyboard, like logitech k810 amazon DOT com/Logitech-Bluetooth-Illuminated-Keyboard-Smartphones/dp/B0099SMFVQ
As it's my first post, i cannot link outside xda..
Cheers
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Komodo Rogue;36292779
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I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: . Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
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Hi there,
I would recomment looking for a real bluetooth keyboard, like logitech k810 amazon DOT com/Logitech-Bluetooth-Illuminated-Keyboard-Smartphones/dp/B0099SMFVQ
As it's my first post, i cannot link outside xda..
Cheers
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Here's a link to a review, the first link on google when I searched for k810: PC mag review
They gave it a great review, thanks for the suggestion It looks really nice, I personally love chiclet keys, and illuminated keys make a big difference.
But still, I feel like having mouse input would be incredibly helpful, especially if it supports gestures.
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Komodo Rogue said:
I have the... um, haha wow, it really is hard to tell, but I believe I have the Moko case. I was going to say Poetic, but my notification LED definitely isn't blocked. Although I'm not too disappointed with it, I wouldn't order it again; not only does it add bulk (which I anticipated, and doesn't bother me too much), but it adds significant weight, and gives it an unwieldy feel. How are you supposed to read books/current/magazines with the case? You find yourself pressing the keys when you swing it around to the back. Fortunately, the keyboard is incredibly easy to pull on and off (this is the saving grace, otherwise I would have returned mine), but the case feels a little.. "off" without the keyboard.
It offers decent protection, and the keyboard is acceptable. When you're sitting at a desk, or lying down with the keyboard on your stomach and the case stand is holding up the N10 on a nearby table, it's pretty nice, although the omission of a mouse means you still need to poke at the screen or pair a mouse through a USB OTG adapter (there is probably an easier way, but I haven't figured it out yet). However, for me, those situations are outnumbered by the times I want to use it sitting on a bench, bus, metro, standing, reading in bed, etc.
If I were to buy another case, I would go for the best slim case available. I think my ideal case would be something like a gel case with a simple "flap" screen protector and a plastic kickstand molded into the back of the gel case. That's enough protection for me to feel comfortable putting it into my messenger bag without worrying too much about scrapes.
I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: logitech K400. Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
Anyway, even with all that said, I'm happy enough with the case that I'm keeping it. It's a good price for bluetooth keyboard, okay case, and it fits together nicely. I suggest thinking about how you use your nexus 10, and if the pseudo-netbook form factor makes sense for you, then I would suggest the Moko without reservation. If not, consider going for your favorite case and your favorite bluetooth keyboard separately.
A request: if you get the k400 keyboard, PM me and let me know if it's as good as I thought!
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Also been thinking of the K400 but the problem with it is that it uses Logitech Unifying, which means you have to use an OTG cable to connect the adapter to. Personally I don't want that dangling around everytime I want to use the keyboard.
tct08 said:
I just received my poetic dual case and the quality is quite excellent. The leather looks nice and the tablet fits snuggly. Keys also feel pretty good.
Unfortunately, I'll likely be returning this and looking for something just slightly better. There are two big problems. The first of which you've mentioned before: there are android function keys but they are hidden underneath F1-12 and you have to press the FN key in conjunction to access the Android function keys. Since this is supposedely designed specifically for the Nexus 10 I find this to be a huge oversight. The biggest issue, however, is that the right shift key is moved away from the keyboard separated by both the 'end' and up arrow key. I have no idea why this was done seeing as the left shift is where it should be bordering the 'z' key. I've attached an image below. Perhaps given some more time I could get used to it (in fact, I'm already naturally using left shift exclusively while typing this post). I want to like this case; for the price it's simply phenomenal. Very sturdy, setup and connection was a breeze and it looks good. I'll report back in a few more days.
Edit: there is also another awkward keyboard layout problem. The home key is wedged in between the main keyboard and enter key. It appears that the manufacturer tried to squeeze a full sized keyboard into the dimensions of the tablet and made some...questionable design choices.
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Thanks for your post!
Interestingly enough, your Poetic case looks like it has a small hole for the notification light. Maybe the Amazon picture is wrong.
I rarely (if ever) use the right shift key, so that's not an issue for me. But the squeezing of the home key to the left of the enter key is really an odd design decision! I use Home & End a lot on my laptop, so it's nice that the keyboard includes them (usually they're first to be left off!) but the placement is indeed questionable.
Clearly it's a generic keyboard due to the odd F key layout. Who needs F1-12 keys on an Android-specific keyboard? I just wonder if there's a way to hack the firmware or maybe even something on the tablet side to reverse the need to press the Fn key. Seems like it would be a nice project, but I'm not sure I have the time for it.
@Komodo - I agree that all keyboard cases are going to be bulkier. I do already have a normal case, so I think I would just switch off between keyboard case and the normal one depending on my needs for that day. So that being said, for my uses, a slim/portable keyboard is more useful.
CazeW said:
Also been thinking of the K400 but the problem with it is that it uses Logitech Unifying, which means you have to use an OTG cable to connect the adapter to. Personally I don't want that dangling around everytime I want to use the keyboard.
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I have the K400. It works with the Nexus 10 & 7 and HTC Rezound & DNA. But I bought it for my laptop when doubling as a HTPC.
I don't see the point in a touch pad. far easier to touch the screen, I prefer a mouse over touchpad too.
I just ordered the iHome Universal Bluetooth Keyboard then I can have the option to use an usb sd card or a mouse simultaneously. I think staying with bluetooth is a better way to go.
Use code A4C5OFF and standard shipping, $2, for a $24.75 out the door price.
For me, a keyboard is a seldom used item with a tablet. It was hard to find reviews for it but at more than half the price of the logitech android keyboard, why not?
I wonder if this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apedroid.hwkeyboardhelper will solve the problem with having to press fn + function-key to use the android specific keys?
It was recommended for a different keyboard in another thread. Anyone with the khomo/poetic/etc keyboard able to test? The app description said there is a demo too.
Icyman said:
I have the K400. It works with the Nexus 10 & 7 and HTC Rezound & DNA.
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How did you get it to work with Nexus 10? I bought an OTG-cable-adapter but it does not work. I tried a G11, which works perfectly. And I checked it on my desktop (Win 7), where it works. So there should be an issue with either the Nexus or Android itself. Do I need root and a custom rom?
Was anyone able to try the app to see if it can improve the keyboard?
Maybe momulah or tct08 or Komodo Rogue ?
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How did you get it to work with Nexus 10? I bought an OTG-cable-adapter but it does not work. I tried a G11, which works perfectly. And I checked it on my desktop (Win 7), where it works. So there should be an issue with either the Nexus or Android itself. Do I need root and a custom rom?
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I've read that the K400 keyboard is supported by version 4.3 and later.
Particularly the TK-FBP018. Any of the other models typically wont be able to pair with Android due to Apple's craptastic Bluetooth certification practices. If you grab one of these off of ebay, make sure you message the seller ahead of time and confirm the model number, I've screwed myself over once by receiving the iOS only version already. You can find them for around $130 USD.
http://www2.elecom.co.jp/peripheral/full-keyboard/tk-fbp018/index.asp
Generally the keyboard works great. The key button hinge design is taken after Thinkpads (which I love). The keys are about the same size as a normal sized laptop keyboard, and for the most part nothing feels cramped. The thing folds down pretty small (only a little bigger than the Note's footprint). Haven't really used it enough yet to drain the batteries.
The built in detachable phone stand is really only made for phone sized phones. I can stand up my Note II on it on it's highest angle but if I need to touch the device the whole thing will topple over if I don't take the care to actually hold the thing still.
Gripes:
* Can't really use it on anything other than a flat surface. There's a "lock" bar that tries to provide a way to prevent the thing from folding up, but it still feels flimsy in my lap.
* My pinky mixes up the directional up arrow key for the right shift key. I've gone through and switched the keys with External Keyboard Helper.
* Where the backspace key should be is actually bound to the delete key by default (guessing that's because this keyboard is targeted for Japanese users). Again fixed in External Keyboard Helper.
Other than that this keyboard is a keeper.
this is just like the Freedom Pro Keyboard I got over a year ago. It has SPP and HID as well. Even the little device stand that comes out the keyboard. the only that that is a bit odd for me, was the space bar being two pieces since I'm so train to hit the center. It also will let you know any flaws in your typing technique.
I like the keyboard overall though. It's a lot nicer than the virtual keyboard of mobile devices.
bit overpriced for what it is isn't it?
It might be by just a tad but it looks like a pretty pimp bluetooth keyboard especially because it's foldable. I'm currently using the Microsoft Wedge Bluetooth Keyboard which was normally $99 but I got mine on sale for $79. It works great with the Note 2 right out of the box and I use it together with a Rocksoul Bluetooth Mouse and it's an awesome combination imo. Thanks op for the heads up though on your keyboard because I'm definitely gonna look into it!
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DaBountyHunter said:
bit overpriced for what it is isn't it?
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A little, mostly because no one is reselling it in the US. Both of mine shipped from Japan. At the same time I'm fine with paying a little more for something that feels more like a ThinkPad keyboard.
Wish someone would make a good metal foldable bluetooth keyboard like the one Palm's had a few years back.
rubin110 said:
Particularly the TK-FBP018. Any of the other models typically wont be able to pair with Android due to Apple's craptastic Bluetooth certification practices. If you grab one of these off of ebay, make sure you message the seller ahead of time and confirm the model number, I've screwed myself over once by receiving the iOS only version already. You can find them for around $130 USD.
http://www2.elecom.co.jp/peripheral/full-keyboard/tk-fbp018/index.asp
Generally the keyboard works great. The key button hinge design is taken after Thinkpads (which I love). The keys are about the same size as a normal sized laptop keyboard, and for the most part nothing feels cramped. The thing folds down pretty small (only a little bigger than the Note's footprint). Haven't really used it enough yet to drain the batteries.
The built in detachable phone stand is really only made for phone sized phones. I can stand up my Note II on it on it's highest angle but if I need to touch the device the whole thing will topple over if I don't take the care to actually hold the thing still.
Gripes:
* Can't really use it on anything other than a flat surface. There's a "lock" bar that tries to provide a way to prevent the thing from folding up, but it still feels flimsy in my lap.
* My pinky mixes up the directional up arrow key for the right shift key. I've gone through and switched the keys with External Keyboard Helper.
* Where the backspace key should be is actually bound to the delete key by default (guessing that's because this keyboard is targeted for Japanese users). Again fixed in External Keyboard Helper.
Other than that this keyboard is a keeper.
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could you pls tell me how u managed to turn it to backspace again? i have exact the same problem
nevermind, solved it
rubin110 said:
... You can find them for around $130 USD.
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Generally the keyboard works great.
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For 130$ it should at least work great!
dalanik said:
For 130$ it should at least work great!
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For $130 it should still be there in the morning and cook breakfast.
Phogg said:
For $130 it should still be there in the morning and cook breakfast.
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For $130 you can buy 6x Anker ultra-slim keyboards (in my review) or 2x Logitech Android keyboards with case/stand (review coming in a few days).