Alternative Recovery - Vibrant Android Development

Thinking about making a port of either Clockwork Mod or sprecovery which would the vibrant community rather have?

i never tried sprecovery. i dont like clockwork much...im used to Amon_RA recovery which has so many options and partitions your sdcard for you, if thats even needed for this device

Amon_RA would be INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!

The problem with Amon_RA recovery is that it isn't open source and I can't just download the source code.

gothdroid said:
The problem with Amon_RA recovery is that it isn't open source and I can't just download the source code.
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I see... well I'd be happy (and very appreciative) with ANY custom recovery! Which do you prefer?

Clockwork
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I'd agree with the others on Amon_Ra, but I understand it's probably not going to happen. Wasn't a fan of Clockwork, but would be able to live with it.

gothdroid said:
The problem with Amon_RA recovery is that it isn't open source and I can't just download the source code.
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i would like to see amon ras recovvery also. im going to ask him if he wouldnt mind givng it to you so you could port it to the vibrant...

I'd even be happy with the old school Cyan recovery, but clockwork would be awesome. I just need some nandroid access.

Clockwork is the only one I'm familiar with... What's the diffs?... Lol, never mind, I'm google-ing it, I'll edit my post if my choice changes
On a Vibrant, using this app-thingy

yeah it cant hurt to ask him if he'll let you port it. but whats sprecovery? does anyone think its better than clockwork?

Personally I like Clockwork's ability to flash unsigned packages.

sp is the basic recovery that you flash, at least I did, when you first start customizing the Droid, and since that is what I came from to the Vibrant that and Clockwork are the only two I know. Haven't used amon so I don't know how it works. I downloaded the source code for Clockwork, now all I need to do is import the proper drivers, and re-write a little bit and I should be able to flash it via adb before the night is over.

Amon_Ra if he lets you, otherwise clockwork

Just so everyone knows, I sent Amon_RA a PM on here asking for the source code for the recovery.

awesome bro, regardless of which recovery you port, thank you so much for your contribution! =]

YES
Thank you! Going to be great to backup again...

http://github.com/AmonRA I would send him a request on github or on http://twitter.com/Amon_RA

How Many partitions does this phone have? You might get it to work but sticking is another problem
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I do prefer Amon's but that's mostly because of the amount of options and that I've mostly used D/S. I can't imagine it being too difficult to port over much of the extras that AR offers to CWM, or vice versa.
It would be nice to have one recovery to rule them all. =)

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Clockwork recovery

Supposedly Clockwork recovery works on the milestone according to the developer
http://www.koushikdutta.com/2010/02/clockwork-recovery-image.html
I was wondering if it is true or did he just assume that it does because the milestone is essentially a droid
brendanmurphy said:
Supposedly Clockwork recovery works on the milestone according to the developer
http://www.koushikdutta.com/2010/02/clockwork-recovery-image.html
I was wondering if it is true or did he just assume that it does because the milestone is essentially a droid
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Interesting. Regardless, it's only a matter of time before the exploit for the Droid X gets ported over to our Milestones!
I just tried the Clockwork Recovery, but the Milestone doesn't accept it because the signature was not correct.
dsixda said:
I just tried the Clockwork Recovery, but the Milestone doesn't accept it because the signature was not correct.
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Cool that be fixed?
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Probably, I haven't tried resigning with the usual testkeys.
Could you give it a go?
Silico said:
Could you give it a go?
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I can confirm it starts up now, you have to move it to /sdcard/OpenRecovery/updates, then in your OpenRecovery menu, launch it from Miscellaneous-->Apply update
It's the same as OpenRecovery almost, I don't know what else to do..
Well that's interesting that it actually works! Got further than me
But could we not flash this as the default recovery rather than having to apply the update.zip and then updating via the recovery?
Sorry to resurrect, but can you confirm that Clockwork works on Milestone, and subsequently ROM Manager as well (since it only works with Clockwork).
Also, what are the differences btwn G.O.T. (which I'm using now) and Clockwork, and which do you prefer?
Thx
Backdraft11 said:
Sorry to resurrect, but can you confirm that Clockwork works on Milestone, and subsequently ROM Manager as well (since it only works with Clockwork).
Also, what are the differences btwn G.O.T. (which I'm using now) and Clockwork, and which do you prefer?
Thx
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essentially its only the same concept , afaik clockwork uses sprecovery we use 'adb recovery' so what we call nandroid backup is not compatible form one another .
essentially they are no benefits of using either ..except for the fact that Openrecovery was built for the milestone . ie there is no reason at allto try and use anthing else .
Got ' OR is not the only one around , they are a few , its only a question of taste witch one you prefer , although the recovery loader built in GOT's allows you to load any recovery you want from within GOT's witch makes it my favorite choice ..

ROM Manager now supports Droid Bionic!

Via CWM twitter: Twitter
ROM Manager now supports the Droid Bionic! You still need to install CVPCS's bootstrap first. It does state that the "Official" bootstrap coming soon, which just means Koush has signed off on it and it will be available in the market then i suppose.
Gotta love the speed at which the Bionic is being developed on. So happy I go this phone!
bootstrap link: http://cvpcs.org/blog/2011-09-16/bio...strap_recovery
ROM Manager Market (premium) link: https://market.android.com/details?i...=search_result
awesome!!!!!!!!!
I just want to make sure I understand this right. I flash cwm over top of cvcps bootstrap recovery? Or do I not flash cwm until the bootstrap is supported in rom manager?
I flashed cwm and made a back up without issue... Buy for some reason the backups have .ext3.tar extensions instead of the .img you get in cvpcs' bootstrap so I am going to refrain from trying to flash my cwm restore until I am near a computer.
Good stuff, I'll be installing this when I get home.
To be honest, I didn't think that the Bionic would have this kind of support as quickly as it did. I think a lot of people lost interest because of the delay, but after seeing the potential it has, I'm glad I made the decision to get it.
triton302 said:
Good stuff, I'll be installing this when I get home.
To be honest, I didn't think that the Bionic would have this kind of support as quickly as it did. I think a lot of people lost interest because of the delay, but after seeing the potential it has, I'm glad I made the decision to get it.
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Same here. I can't wait to see CM7.
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So lemme get this right...
You flash this over bootstrap right? Cause that's what I did and it worked...now do I need to keep the bootstrap recovery on my device or can I remove it now?
YOu can now download the official CWM via Rom Manager. Bionic is listed.

ROM Manager Question.....

For a person with little or no knowledge on doing all the flash stuff with the Tablets..would you say this app would help alot? Or doing it without the app is better?
I seen the video of someone using it..on a phone tho...seems nice. Didnt see VEGAn TAB anywhere in the options thing. That would be able to find this also in "Download ROMS" right? Thanks for the help.
DJR0D said:
For a person with little or no knowledge on doing all the flash stuff with the Tablets..would you say this app would help alot? Or doing it without the app is better?
I seen the video of someone using it..on a phone tho...seems nice. Didnt see VEGAn TAB anywhere in the options thing. That would be able to find this also in "Download ROMS" right? Thanks for the help.
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Rom Manager has been known to hose some users gTabs making them very difficult to fix.
Well, the recovery hooks used by the ROM manager app cause problems with the GTablet... I recommend avoiding it!!
Yea....after all the good i read about it....i saw all the bad stuff. Too bad...that would have been the thing for me to be brave and flash. With that it made it seem pretty easy. Oh well. Gotta learn the real way soon.
Anyone on here use this with the GTab and had success???? Alot say this is not good with the GTab. Some say it is. Man...
its not worth using on the gtablet. Trust me, once you figure out how to do a few other things, you wont need this tool anyways. Start looking through this site. You will learn a lot. http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/
ROM Manager is just a GUI interface to installing .zips (ROMs, updates, etc..).
However, it requires a specific version of Clockworkmod Recovery to work.
If you already have Clockworkmod Recovery on your Gtablet, it's just as easy to use it manually than hoping the Rom Manager specific Clockworkmod Recovery doesn't brick your tablet.
Donwload the ROM you want, power off and boot in to clockworkmod recovery (Hold Volume + while powering on) and select the install .zip from sdcard. Just browse to the downloaded .zip and install it.
It's best to also do a factory reset before installing a rom....and making a backup before you flash something new in case you don't like it or it has issues.
Earlier it had a lot of problems....I think they've resolved most of those issues (Rom Manager now lists the Gtablet SMB_A1002 when flashing the recovery), but it's still so simple to flash manually and not worry the risks.

The Recovery Battle: WCX vs Twrp vs CWM

What recovery do you guys prefer?
I've seen a lot of Vivids with WCX these days.
Post your experience with each one!
Stock CWM ftw
CWM still has a lot of issues. It's been causing quite a few hard bricks. Anyone that still has it, I would highly suggest switching to WCX recovery. I have yet to try TWRP but from what I've heard from all the devs, it still has a few kinks. I wouldn't recommend anything other than WCX at the moment.
I don't really see it as whats "preferred". You don't want something on your device that can potentially cause a hard brick. A recovery is something you don't use very often, so it's best to go with the one that just works.
Nice answer, right now I'm on the stock RUU ICS rom with an unlocked bootloader and I want to flash the WCX recovery, I just have to put the wcxrecovery.img in the microSD root, enter in Hboot, select recovery and then flash it with "fastboot flash recovery wcxrecovery.exe"?
Do I have to make a backup of something after doing this?
Thanks in advance for your answer.
Archector said:
Nice answer, right now I'm on the stock RUU ICS rom with an unlocked bootloader and I want to flash the WCX recovery, I just have to put the wcxrecovery.img in the microSD root, enter in Hboot, select recovery and then flash it with "fastboot flash recovery wcxrecovery.exe"?
Do I have to make a backup of something after doing this?
Thanks in advance for your answer.
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Actually, just put the wcxrecovery on your computer where you have adb and fastboot set up. If you don't know where that is, just download the wcxjb root zip from the guide in my signature and unzip it to your desktop. Enter hboot on your phone and select fastboot. Shift + right click on your computer inside the folder you just unzipped and select open a command window here. THEN, type in the command "fastboot flash recovery wcxrecovery.img" and you're good to go.
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Actually, just put the wcxrecovery on your computer where you have adb and fastboot set up. If you don't know where that is, just download the wcxjb root zip from the guide in my signature and unzip it to your desktop. Enter hboot on your phone and select fastboot. Shift + right click on your computer inside the folder you just unzipped and select open a command window here. THEN, type in the command "fastboot flash recovery wcxrecovery.img" and you're good to go.
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Crap I moved back to linux after I s-off'ed, is there anyway I can use fastboot without having to dig out my aging Pentium 4?
Brand New said:
Crap I moved back to linux after I s-off'ed, is there anyway I can use fastboot without having to dig out my aging Pentium 4?
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I know it's possible, but I've never tried it. The best tip I've picked up from the guide was this
- Tip 3: On Linux, remember to run fastboot under sudo
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If you have any idea what that means, it may be of help to you.
Stock CWM. Never used anything else, never had problems, never plan to use anything else.
Brand New said:
Crap I moved back to linux after I s-off'ed, is there anyway I can use fastboot without having to dig out my aging Pentium 4?
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Just download and install the Android SDK for linux, what distribution are you using?
I suppose you're using Ubuntu or some .deb based distribution, this tutorial may serve for you:
Running something on "sudo" is giving superuser attributes to the processes and services that a program or whatever you are running needs to have to function properly. Yes it's important when you flash with fastboot.
If you can flash on a laptop will be better for you, a friend of mine bricked his galaxy sII when he was flashing and there was an electricity short.
Archector said:
What recovery do you guys prefer?
I've seen a lot of Vivids with WCX these days.
Post your experience with each one!
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I use the recovery-beta2 recovery from thecubed. I tried WCX but I couldn't get any ROM's to flash with it... nothing but bootloops for some strange reason (yes I fastboot flashed the boot.img first people). I reflashed thecubed's recovery right after having issues and flashing ROM's worked again. I'm sticking with what works and I've had zero issues with thecubed's recovery after using for several months.
I know I sound redundant, but does anyone have a link to the latest WCX recovery?
You have to download from WildChild's website.... It's included in his ROM zip. You have to have 10 posts on his site before you can download anything so be prepared to "earn" the download.
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dusty2422 said:
I use the recovery-beta2 recovery from thecubed. I tried WCX but I couldn't get any ROM's to flash with it... nothing but bootloops for some strange reason (yes I fastboot flashed the boot.img first people). I reflashed thecubed's recovery right after having issues and flashing ROM's worked again. I'm sticking with what works and I've had zero issues with thecubed's recovery after using for several months.
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Did you use the recovery un-installer to get rid of CWM before you tried the WCX recovery? I remember some people having issues trying to use WCX over one of the previous CWMs without un-installing it first.
Actually your incorrect,its available freely from the rooting flashing thread on here...as far as earning something....dont like participation dont use my work either way tomorrows another day and life goes on now doesnt it....theres no entitilement to [email protected] "earned" comment....
WC
dusty2422 said:
You have to download from WildChild's website.... It's included in his ROM zip. You have to have 10 posts on his site before you can download anything so be prepared to "earn" the download.
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Some people just throw stuff out like they know what's going on... Wow get facts right first bro
Y'know if CWM loops, it's because your rom of choice had a useless ext4 performance tuning script in it that changed some of the mount options of /cache.
If you have CWM and find that after flashing a ROM that does weird things to your Vivid, just reboot to fastboot, then issue "fastboot erase cache" then boot to recovery and format /cache.
CWM hasn't caused any hard bricks, it's ROM developers that aren't properly checking their 'init.d tweaks' and updater-scripts. Now that we have s-off, a bad tweak or updater-script can and WILL make your phone hard to fix.
just used TWRP on my Sprint Gnex and love the interface! I used CWM on my old Epic 4G and it worked great too. To me, seeing all the options on that screen is easier....seems stable.
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Great point but how would the average Joe know that about a rom before a flash? I'd love to be able to know that and avoid bricking altogether (but wouldn't we all). any tips?
Wild Child said:
Actually your incorrect,its available freely from the rooting flashing thread on here...as far as earning something....dont like participation dont use my work either way tomorrows another day and life goes on now doesnt it....theres no entitilement to [email protected] "earned" comment....
WC
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I don't mind participation... I just find it hard to participate in a forum where I can't download anything. Kind of hard to comment on something that you can't download IMO.
robertmoore208 said:
Some people just throw stuff out like they know what's going on... Wow get facts right first bro
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Not sure if this was directed at me but I'll assume it is. WC closed all of his dev threads on XDA (Vivid forum at least) which is why I assumed it wasn't here anymore (yes I searched before replying). Not sure that I've ever seen dev related content stuck in a [GUIDE] thread (maybe a link to the thread that has it) so not sure why this was the place chosen and probably why I missed it. Apparently I'm not the only one since I've seen multiple people asking who can't find it. I appreciate you keeping me honest though "bro".
Archector said:
What recovery do you guys prefer?
I've seen a lot of Vivids with WCX these days.
Post your experience with each one!
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WCX all the way, ROM's, Recovery, & Kernel. Now, I'm not trying to say that CWM doesn't work, I used it alot when I was rooting & flashing my Aria... but I've had nothing but 100% success using WCX Recovery & ROM's since before I started beta testing for him (along with all the other dedicated members).
I've never used TWRP before, & all I think about when I see that word is Big Booty Shaking!!! ;-)
WCX! I have to say that EVERYTHING that he and his team put out is top notch!

[Q] Custom Rom

Hi, can me tell somebody which Rom worked fine without Problems? Please not the oldest Roms.
I read something about the Cronmod but is this now for the dream or for the desire?
Which files I need exactly and where I can download all?
Some files how SPL 1.33.0013d or AmonRA Recovery I dont found to download. All links are down.
I see this showthread but when do it from there I become only my G1 Logo and not more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1641692
Maybe somebody know a better Rom the run stable where I become all files on one site and not one here and the another there.
A detailed description would be nice.
I need all, because in the moment the software is a little be crashed. I want to do all new.
Thanks for help.
Does "CronMod-Dream" not give you a clue? (yes, it's for the Dream) and read the ROM Bible and G1 Oracle.
HTCDreamOn said:
Does "CronMod-Dream" not give you a clue? (yes, it's for the Dream) and read the ROM Bible and G1 Oracle.
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I know, there some links for recovery and the anothers. But the links not working. Test the links from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669&highlight=amon+ra
https://rapidshare.com/#!download|0|387558151|recovery-RA-dream-v1.7.0.img|0|0|0|File not found. (e029a7af)
not working, file not exist
Tell me where I can download this?
mafloc said:
I know, there some links for recovery and the anothers. But the links not working. Test the links from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669&highlight=amon+ra
https://rapidshare.com/#!download|0|387558151|recovery-RA-dream-v1.7.0.img|0|0|0|File not found. (e029a7af)
not working, file not exist
Tell me where I can download this?
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Don't install RA_Amon Recovery, use ClockWorkMod instead, it' much better imo. Install ROM Manager from the Play Store then follow the steps in the app to install CWM Recovery.
First of all, we need to know some information about your device.
Go into fastboot mode:
1. Turn off phone completely.
2. Hold the camera button and press power. Let go when you see something.
3. Write down the information on that page.
4. Pull out the battery and put back in and turn on the phone.
Now, go into Settings > About and write down everything you see there.
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HTCDreamOn said:
Don't install RA_Amon Recovery, use ClockWorkMod instead, it' much better imo. Install ROM Manager from the Play Store then follow the steps in the app to install CWM Recovery.
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ClockWorkMod may have some problems flashing SPLs and Radios. Amon_Ra is definitely the better recovery in terms of stability.
sorry htcdreamon, im going to have to agree with nerdyguitarist here, of all the custom recoveries for the dream ive only never had issues with amonra 1.7
personally i say stick with it but to each there own!
demkantor said:
sorry htcdreamon, im going to have to agree with nerdyguitarist here, of all the custom recoveries for the dream ive only never had issues with amonra 1.7
personally i say stick with it but to each there own!
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Yeah, I guess so, it's just CWM has never given me any problems and I'm just generally more comfortable on it tbh. Plus things like having to have zips on the root of the sd card are annoying on Amon_RA, but maybe you just get used to it.
hey use what works, one mans opinion is just that so i dont need to change anyones mind. i have ran into issues with clockwork too many times where i try to stay away from it on any device not just the dream. granted koush deserves our respect as one of the first to make a custom recovery for any device but i just find that many have improved on his or made their own that are better

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